CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:30:24 PM)
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Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:34:54 PM)
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Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:13 PM)
You aren't a mage!

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:32 PM)
get em!

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:32 PM)
on the contrary.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:41 PM)
*uses magic to enslave!*

CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:09 PM)
*blinks at them*

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:15 PM)
*dazzles Lior with science*

CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:20 PM)
oh... hi... *blinkblink*

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:25 PM)
Behold a microwave!

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:34 PM)
oooohh ahhhhh

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:36 PM)
*cackles*

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:37:12 PM)
A year or two ago, she had never seen such a thing, so that's about right, Omega.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:38:10 PM)
I have to look up when the first Microwave was made..Grim may not have seen one

CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:38:52 PM)
*sings*

CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:39:08 PM)
The west way goes eastern And right where the beast yearns A void lies inside Now I'm here and there can never be return

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:39:30 PM)
I think they where before 1971

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:39:38 PM)
http://www.gallawa.com/microtech/history.html

CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:40:34 PM)
(This user is now known as CG - AFW, PM if you need me.)

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:40:50 PM)
Okay. Sweet

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:41:12 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1jHDG0XdJw

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:41:24 PM)
About nine years after Lior went on a little trip.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:42:27 PM)
I could always say he saw it at the worlds fair

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:44:27 PM)
Magic people....Voodoo people.....Vooodoo!

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:48:55 PM)
What would be a good calling card?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:08 PM)
Last time I had a glass rose.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:22 PM)
Depends what mythology you're playing off of.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:36 PM)
Thats what I was thinking to

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:55 PM)
I think I will have the calling card be based off the targets religous preferance

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:01 PM)
That kind of defeats the purpose of the flaw, though. It's gotta be consistant.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:27 PM)
Well a good one is the silver peices on the eyes

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:34 PM)
or in the hand

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:42 PM)
to pay the fayre man

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:57 PM)
and since he spends 40 years as such a thing..It would fit

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:52:45 PM)
Indeed.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:54:15 PM)
that just kinda...Makes him more creepy

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:00:05 PM)
hum

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:00:14 PM)
I need ideas. I hate that

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:00:22 PM)
*shares*

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:03:25 PM)
you better hurry though my beer is almost gone, and when that happens I'll have no more ideas

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:07:11 PM)
lol

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:07:49 PM)
*has the gift "Wasted Talent"*

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:08:37 PM)
lol

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:11:23 PM)
Should I be worried that my wife sent me a Text that reads: Perv, and I have yet to do anything remotely pervy

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:11:47 PM)
did that come out of nowere?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:00 PM)
Pretty much

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:16 PM)
yeah...i'd be worried

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:19 PM)
I haven't seen her really since 10 this morning

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:26 PM)
lol

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:38 PM)
I don't remember doing anything perverted

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:56 PM)
yeah well...maybe she didnt mean to send that to you

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:13:09 PM)
Could be

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:13:15 PM)
she does have a lot of male admirers

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:14:55 PM)
I'm hungry

Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:15 PM)
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Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:19 PM)
i should see about foods

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:25 PM)
lol

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:30 PM)
that is an awesome exit

Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:16:21 PM)
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Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:17:13 PM)
brb

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:25:44 PM)
back

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:16 PM)
wb

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:25 PM)
Danke

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:36 PM)
*sighs* Hi. I'm having a bad day. You?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:55 PM)
My day isn't that great either

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:02 PM)
I'm sorry you're having a bad day though

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:08 PM)
I can log out if you perfer

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:12 PM)
:)

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:16 PM)
*cracks open a cheerwine, toasts* To our days getting better?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:37 PM)
man..I would love you forever right now if I could have some

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:38 PM)
lol

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:11 PM)
heh, i wish i could

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:17 PM)
most of the year i can't find the stuff

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:30 PM)
but come the holidays.. the stores start stocking it

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:53 PM)
I'm a hard man to get rid of when I love someone forever now..

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:59 PM)
;)

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:30:49 PM)
anyways.. *peers at you*

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:16 PM)
...Almost makes mefeel like I should cover something up

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:25 PM)
heh

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:32 PM)
you done playing with stats on your end?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:40 PM)
yep

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:32:57 PM)
even though my Talismen should be listed as an arifact. But eh

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:33:04 PM)
its just wording really

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:35:57 PM)
I noticed this before, but you have Architect/Guru as your nature/demeanor. Sadly, Guru is not in the mage books.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:36:19 PM)
...its a Demeanor.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:36:49 PM)
I didn't think I was restricted to Demeanors found only in the book

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:37:34 PM)
It is. May I suggest Pedagogue?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:37:51 PM)
...Sure

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:38:10 PM)
I have no idea what that is however

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:38:15 PM)
(it's pg 99 in the corebook.)

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:38:30 PM)
Very well

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:40:02 PM)
It's all restricted to stuff out of the books. Aside from rotes and such.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:41:22 PM)
I figured that most of it would be..But a Nature Demeanor is something that isn't Venue Speific, in that all venues have them. *shrugs* I'm not complaining, nor do I care. I will take your suggestion. I just find that restrict a basic trait such as that to strictly the core book is a tad silly.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:41:57 PM)
That by the way is not in your creation rules

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:44:10 PM)
As you know, we are playing the Revised version of Mage the Ascension. This causes some confusion in relation to which books are Revised and which are not. Whitewolf was contacted, and they directed us to a list, these are the relevant books off that List. Also note, we are not using any sort of equal oppurtunity rules. Mage the Ascension (Revised), Sorcerer (Revised), Guide to the Traditions, All Tradition Books (Revised), Forged by Dragon's Fire, Infinite Tapestry, Book of Madness (Revised), Mage Storyteller's Handbook (Revised), and Mage Storyteller's Companion Characters are to be created using the rules in these books. Sleepers and Consors are to be made using the Sorcerer rules, just skip the numina section. Rules, Material, and Merits and Flaws from any books not on this list are disallowed unless an exception has been made.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:45:04 PM)
Correct

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:45:19 PM)
I did not build the PC based off another Venues book

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:45:47 PM)
And as I said. The Nature Demeanor is not listed as being required to pull speifically from the Mage core.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:46:15 PM)
Guru -is- infact a nature demeanor. Just not in that book. So I will change it

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:46:18 PM)
no big deal

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:46:31 PM)
I'm not stressin over it. :)

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:47:50 PM)
you're one short on social. cha2, man2, app1 ...what did you wanna do?

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:33 PM)
er.. *cough* phys actually.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:47 PM)
*feels momentarily dumb*

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:52 PM)
lol Dex

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:54 PM)
Your fine

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:50:55 PM)
:) And the Int Spec, Forethought is nice, but It would be really hard to make calls whether it applys or not. Would Good Memory work, or would you prefer Booksmart, Creative, Analytical, Logical, or Subject Authority?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:53:51 PM)
The Speicality of forethought applies to the target subject and knowing their next two moves before they do. Like playing chess. If I have to change it. Analytical would be second best. But I don't really know when I'd use it

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:55:35 PM)
And Visionary (as a Demeanor) fits better, simply because he isn't going to really teach anyone anything. More so fullfil their last desires

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:55:48 PM)
I had to get my core

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:56:31 PM)
K. You're short one in skills. And, you get free lores if they apply or you want them. Traditions (Tradition Society), Crafts(Other Societies), Parapsycology (Psychic Lore), Awakened (Awakened Magic), and Linear (Linear Magic).

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:57:19 PM)
The Middle section?

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:57:25 PM)
yeah

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:57:41 PM)
Crafts

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:02 PM)
and the focus for that should be "Wood working"

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:06 PM)
or wood work

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:10 PM)
*nod* So you wanna go with Orphan, or did you want to go with Euthanatos?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:37 PM)
well you suggested Orphan, so I'll side with that

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:47 PM)
It suits him.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:49 PM)
:)

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:59:04 PM)
*nods*

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:03:12 PM)
hmm.. where's calling card from, i can't remember

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:03:24 PM)
Euthie Trad book

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:04:20 PM)
Death Walker is also there

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:07:04 PM)
*numbercrunching*

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:10:04 PM)
while your doing that I'm going to get a beer and grab a smoke

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:17:43 PM)
Hmm. Okay. Backgrounds. You get 7, you have 8 + 2 adversarial. so that's +1 freebie there. +3 Anac, +2 calling card -4 Deathwalker. +15 Freebies. So 17 to spend.. You spent +7, +7 +4 +4 on magic and nowhere else. That's 5 over. Now we could just fix this, but there's one other thing I need you to consider. Your paradigm is more an explination of how he gains more magic than how he actually uses it. Given that, I'd not be able to give you more than Arete 2, which from the looks of things will throw a monkeywrench into what you want to do with him. :-/

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:20:54 PM)
Adverisal backgrounds count towards flaw points yes?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:25:46 PM)
So I have 5+ 2 for backgrounds which is the max number of flaws added to 15 is 22-7 for A sphere is 15, minus three for backgrounds is 12, I spent 8 to raise my avatar to 3 so thats 4, and then I spent 4 in abilities

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:26:33 PM)
in law and investigation

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:27:10 PM)
and my Pentgriam is actually on my background as a Reply

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:27:20 PM)
The foci is Ritualistic

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:27:55 PM)
Wait.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:28:43 PM)
That last four I believe went to my merit not abilities

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:29:32 PM)
Yeah, it should have been 22-7-4-8-3

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:29:48 PM)
Sphere, Merit, Avatar, backgrounds

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:31:20 PM)
Backgrounds. Not counting Notoriety, you have 8 points in it. One extra. Means you spent a freebie.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:31:50 PM)
I spent three

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:32:05 PM)
Sphere, Merit, Avatar, and Backgrounds

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:32:46 PM)
o.O I think we are confusing each other. Where do you think you spent your freebies?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:34:01 PM)
I bought Life Sphere, I bought the Merit Death walker, I rose my Avatar to 3 and then I bought Familiar and Resources

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:34:33 PM)
hmm. I do not even see Avatar on your sheet.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:16 PM)
...Its right next to Willpower

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:33 PM)
That's Arete.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:49 PM)
*Sighs*

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:51 PM)
You know what..

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:55 PM)
:) I think i see the confusion.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:02 PM)
Lol

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:17 PM)
Avatar and Arete are meant to conside

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:29 PM)
but eh

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:36 PM)
I'll go back and rework the sheet if I have to

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:37:00 PM)
Avatar is actually a background, and i've been reworking it as we discuss it. :)

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:37:34 PM)
Right, but inorder to have a Arete of three you have to have a Avatar score of the same level or higher

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:37:45 PM)
That is not true.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:38:06 PM)
At least, I've never seen that rule anywhere in Revised.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:33 PM)
You can start without an Avatar rating. It just means your avatar is so weak it can't store prime energies.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:34 PM)
eh

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:48 PM)
Its related to Quint

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:53 PM)
not the Arete

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:00 PM)
*nod*

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:01 PM)
*sighs* Man I give up

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:06 PM)
do what you will

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:07 PM)
lol

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:12 PM)
:) When was the last time you played mage?

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:28 PM)
Its not that..Its that I made the sheet on like 3 hours of sleep

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:50 PM)
and with out the book at myside

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:41:28 PM)
*nod* Well that can make for some loopyness, i've found. No worries.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:42:20 PM)
So he has no Avatar. LOL oh well

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:45:55 PM)
Alright.. breakdown.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:45:56 PM)
5/3/7 13/5/9 8bkg/2Adversarial(-1 / +2 Freebies) 5wp 3 Arete/8 Spheres (-8 Freebies / -14 Freebies) 1 merit/ 2 flaws (-4 / +5 Freebies)

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:46:27 PM)
I didn't spend anything on willpower

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:46:52 PM)
Did not say you did? You start with 5.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:16 PM)
Right, it was in the break down so I figured it meant you thought I spent

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:21 PM)
but carry on

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:24 PM)
I was wrong

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:58 PM)
And there's still the problem of paradigm. Yes, I was going off what you have in your background thread. That's.. Not quite minimum.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:48:28 PM)
Then I'll have to rework it

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:48:52 PM)
*nod* This is what i've got on the creation thread for paradigm.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:49:16 PM)
Paradigm - I am Looking for a set of assumptions, concepts, and values that constitute the way of viewing reality for your mage. One has to know How to do something Special before they can do it, a Paradigm defines how that sort of Special operates and where your character believes their powers come from. You can expand upon it later, but please submit at least two paragraphs for this no matter what flavor of magic your character is.

CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:49:22 PM)
and I can give you an example if you want.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:49:44 PM)
In theory thats how his magic is created..Souls resenate in some aspect a level of sphere. Weather they know it or not

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:50:20 PM)
to achive that level of sphere he must match there chosen end and make sure they are at rest

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:50:54 PM)
Thats it in a nut shell

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:51:42 PM)
If thats not enough, I'll need time to rework it

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:04 PM)
I need to go. I'm being summoned rather rudely

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:08 PM)
I'll work on it

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:17 PM)
I'm sorry to just cut and run like this.

Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:23 PM)
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CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:58:21 PM)
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