Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:14:52 AM)
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Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:15:31 AM)
heya :) Some of the poitns are a little wrong because we are using the thrall template in damned and deceived rather than the standard mortal template
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:15:49 AM)
oh okay, I don't think I have that one
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:15:59 AM)
I just have the demon book
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:16:09 AM)
which is cool :) We can do the changes now
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:16:13 AM)
okay
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:16:21 AM)
for example though you only get 3 poitns to spend in virtues
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:17:03 AM)
oh
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:17:14 AM)
well...an extra one in each I'd suppose.
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:17:28 AM)
np they can also be raised with xp or with freebies for 2 freebies per dot
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:18:03 AM)
kk
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:18:54 AM)
The next thing is, I really like the bg but I'm not really seeing justification for church influence there. I can see justification for faith 2.. but not for the influence. But I'm definately willing to listen if you really want it on the sheet and can give me good reasons.
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:19:11 AM)
well she volunteers at the church often.
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:19:34 AM)
and can I buy faith 2? I didn't think it would be allowed over 1
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:20:00 AM)
Nope with your bg and volunteering for the church etc I would allow you to have faith 2 if you like
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:20:13 AM)
oh, how many freebies is that?
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:20:59 AM)
it's 7 freebie points. We could lose the influence, one more bg dot and take charisma to 3 and put you at faith 2... that would make you a much more attractive potential thrall
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:21:28 AM)
Sure. That'll work, I can fight to get the charisma back up later.
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:22:05 AM)
or bargain with your demon for it :)
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:22:13 AM)
lol that too
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:23:11 AM)
so...minus church influence and...lemme look at her sheet again
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:24:36 AM)
we took charisma down to 3, lost the church influence
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:24:49 AM)
oh okay
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:24:52 AM)
so thats 7
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:25:22 AM)
we are still a little over but we will fix it!
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:25:32 AM)
first up, we are one under in the bg's. I'd suggest resources 2
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:25:46 AM)
it's very hard to even maintain an establishment without at least 2 in resources
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:26:26 AM)
oh yes, I meant to hit resources 3
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:26:32 AM)
but it must have not taken
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:27:37 AM)
we are still a few over :) I'd like to take intelligence down to 3. 3 still makes her above average intelligence wise, and gives us some poitns to play with.
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:28:28 AM)
She was suppose to be very smart though...could I lose a dot in perception or wits?
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:29:13 AM)
3 is very smart.... 4 is more for a doctor or someone with a phd. To go down that road, you'd need to start raising your academics, and a lot of your knowledges which would make it hard to keep the model concept alive.
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:29:39 AM)
just because you have an intel 4 doesn't mean you've been shown how to use it really...
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:30:03 AM)
Knowledges are still her primary
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:31:44 AM)
true but to have an extremely high intellect it generally needs to be trained, and honestly I am a little uncomfortable with sanctioning a mortal that has multiple 4's in attributes. But do keep in mind when you make your pact one of the options is to trade in 1 dot of faith for 2 attribute dots that you can put anywhere. So you can make a deal with your demon for effectively intel 4, manip 4
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:32:09 AM)
It's just she's focused elsewhere and thus hasn't had an extreme amount of education.
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:33:15 AM)
Eh, okay, but I'm still sorta uncomfortable with it too as raising intel in game is sort of one of those things that's difficult to justify
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:34:34 AM)
I can absolutely see that. But the idea with making a mortal to be thralled is that they have these weaknesses, weaknesses that the demons can use to lure them into a pact. And intel raising during a pact creation is perfectly justifiable. For example if your mortal were to say something like "There are just so many things I don't understand, I feel my mind on the verges of brilliant ideas but I can't quite make that leap." The demon can use the pact to boost their intelligence
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:34:57 AM)
Fair I guess
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:36:05 AM)
and if we drop intel to 3, that gives us 3 freebies to play with, so we can do things like get your resources up to 3
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:36:17 AM)
okies
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:37:53 AM)
okay that leaves us 2 freebies to spend. But before we do. She only has academics 1 and never got a degree etc... how did she learn latin?
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:38:11 AM)
Her dad was a latin professor?
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:39:04 AM)
fair enough :) We could throw those last two points into academics then to reflect her higher than normal education?
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:39:28 AM)
Just cause she learned latin?
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:39:38 AM)
lol
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:39:56 AM)
I dunno
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:40:03 AM)
academics is never rolled
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:40:11 AM)
or at least I've never seen it rolled myself
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:40:51 AM)
not often, but you need it to justify other things, like medicine, science, occult etc
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:40:53 AM)
I'd rather my points be somewhere I might use them...maybe medicine 3 learning to be a nurse?
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:41:29 AM)
see academics 1 is high school level. To be a nurse you need to be at academics 2 which is college level and means you can keep up with conversatins on philosophy, history etc
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:41:35 AM)
not really
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:41:41 AM)
if you take a nurses school at like ivy tech
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:41:48 AM)
you take ZERO of those classes
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:41:52 AM)
non whatsoever
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:42:06 AM)
well the book clearly states that 1 is high school and any teritiary education is level 2
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:42:11 AM)
check page 149 of the core
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:42:20 AM)
it's still illogical?
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:42:51 AM)
she's not actually a nurse yet
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:42:56 AM)
she's still in school for it
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:43:14 AM)
:) I can't change the system. I have to work within it. If she starts getting knowledges above high school level she needs the academics to reflect that.
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:44:02 AM)
then I'd prefer to get that with xp. Can I work on instead maybe a fame for being a model and a second ally for an agent?
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:45:04 AM)
sure :)
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:45:42 AM)
kk, sorry I just have a long dislike of the way academics is run - at least until I see it rolled like once ever
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:46:04 AM)
np I understand :) I just have to stick within the sanctioning guidelines etc
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:46:09 AM)
so who is her contact?
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:46:44 AM)
Someone that works with different charity events in the city. Helps her know what's going on, what she can do to help herself, etc.
Dusk (Apr 11, 2011 9:49:09 AM)
great :) Log out and all the way back in for me please?
Falon Knight (Apr 11, 2011 9:49:17 AM)
kk brb
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