Jeremy Meers (Sep 14, 2010 11:58:24 PM)
*Gets the nod from wasabe then looks back to star as she sits there in silence*

Star That sings of life (Sep 14, 2010 11:58:42 PM)
*again she spoke in her swet vioce softly*"Star that Sings of life"

Jeremy Meers (Sep 14, 2010 11:59:58 PM)
*He corrected star*She is Star that Sings of life, homid born, galliard of the children of gaia currently a member of the redemotion pack honoring mother bat claith to the nation.

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:01:18 AM)
*he glanced quietly back to Jeremy as she was corrected and then back to Star* Sings of Life-yuf, would you do me the honor of speaking with me for a moment? I wish to understand my soon to be packmates.

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:02:39 AM)
*she started playing with her hair clearly nervous, and then looked to ciqala, with a clear induction he should speak for her*

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 15, 2010 12:03:24 AM)
*He shakes his head.* You speak for yourself Star.

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:05:39 AM)
"*that just made her play with her hair more and faster. she didn't have any inea what to say*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:09:15 AM)
*he watched her nervously play with her hair and slowly sat down on the floor across from her so as to seem less imposing, his own piercings making him seem less like a Silver Fang Dox, despite his breeding* I can see you have worries. Would you wish to speak in private? I give you my word that anything passed between us shall stay that way if you wish it.

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:11:03 AM)
*she shook her head*" i... dinna have much to say... but i'll anwser things if ye wish"

Wasabe Nigig (Sep 15, 2010 12:11:31 AM)
*he watches the interaction between star and Val*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:18:20 AM)
*he nodded his head lightly as he thought about that for a moment* Very well. Can you answer why you are so nervous right now?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:19:47 AM)
" i guess it's partly hormones, but mostly i worry about messing up again"

Wasabe Nigig (Sep 15, 2010 12:20:42 AM)
*he paces a little as he watches them as if studing*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:21:36 AM)
Hormones? *he decided to focus on the worry of why she might mess up rather than the fact that she might mess up* Are you have a problem with them?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:22:54 AM)
*nods her head*" i read it be normal right now... and i have studied a little medince so i kinda know what to expect"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:25:02 AM)
You are worried that they will cause you to make a mistake?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:25:36 AM)
" nay! they just make mi moods more unstable"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:30:01 AM)
Then why are you worried about messing up?

Wasabe Nigig (Sep 15, 2010 12:30:11 AM)
*he crouthes a couple feet away from the both of them but is between the two of hem so he can see them both*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:30:46 AM)
" becuase i have... already and i dinna want to make things worse"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:34:26 AM)
I see. But if you fear to make a mistake and you never try again, how can you improve yourself?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:37:18 AM)
*she kept playing with her hair more*" i dinna know but if i dinna make more mistakes then i dinna make trouble"

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:43:58 AM)
*she suddenly stopped with her hair and just looked at her lap*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:44:05 AM)
Yes, you might get in trouble if you make more mistakes. But you should learn from those mistakes so you don't make them again. If you do that and improve yourself, then others will not fault you for the mistakes you have made in the past.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 12:44:07 AM)
*jeremy looked over at wasabe and the others. He finished drinking his lemonaide.. And moved to rinse his glass and the piture and place them in the dish washer. He could hear them fine..*

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 15, 2010 12:45:01 AM)
*He gives a small grin when she stopped.*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:45:19 AM)
" i'd rather not make mistakes... too many broken things..."

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:45:47 AM)
But how will you learn if you don't make mistakes?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:46:52 AM)
" no mistakes... just let the others be happy... "

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:47:04 AM)
But you are miserable, are you not?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:48:51 AM)
" becuase mi family is unhappy... and mi mate is unhappy"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:49:08 AM)
Why is your mate unhappy?

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 12:50:21 AM)
*Jeremy shuts the dish washer and turns to look back at star and valerian.*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:50:36 AM)
" becuase i cheated on him... with two others and i hide things from him and becuase he dinna be sure kit be his"

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 12:51:43 AM)
*Looks at Fedor to see his reaction to why her mate is upset with her. *

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:53:22 AM)
*he seemed to take her confession in stride, showing an amazing lack of judgement regarding her actions* We are creatures of urges. A great many of which we must learn to control. Is your mate still with you?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:54:59 AM)
" i dinna... i've been ordered to work it out... he be over most of his anger"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 12:55:12 AM)
Ordered to work it out by whom?

Wasabe Nigig (Sep 15, 2010 12:55:47 AM)
*raises a brow at the mention of two others but looks between the two of them as they talk*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 12:59:34 AM)
" the elders"

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:00:29 AM)
*he looked to wasabe with a look of confusion?*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:01:07 AM)
*he nodded his head lightly, thinking about that for a moment* I agree with the spirit of their wishes and if you will allow it, I would like to sit down with you and your mate to help work this out. I want you to understand that working it out may mean seperating from him. Do you understand this?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:02:27 AM)
" i already said he can do as he likes but i dinna know what will haapen with Kit... if Kit be his... he'll want to be part of kit's life"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:03:58 AM)
I think that must be discussed as well or you will not be happy and he will not be happy. Perhaps once the child is born it would be best to leave it in his care. We are warriors after all, not nursemaids. We have a duty to Gaia, first and foremost.

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:04:45 AM)
" i dinna want... my babe to feel like i aboaned it"

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:05:01 AM)
" that i dinna love it"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:05:38 AM)
Were you raised by both your Garou parent and your kinfolk parent?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:06:38 AM)
*shakes her head*" never had any parents"

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:07:18 AM)
*He looked to fedor as they where getting into the darker side of her "past"* Soo your gonna be appearing in a great many photo albums ciqala?

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:08:09 AM)
Is that why you feel that if you leave the child with your mate that it will feel abandoned?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:09:24 AM)
*nods*

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 15, 2010 1:09:38 AM)
(And off to bed I go, night all)

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:09:43 AM)
(night)

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 15, 2010 1:09:55 AM)
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Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:10:02 AM)
Did you ever find out what actually happened to your parents?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:13:27 AM)
" i was handed over to father monty the day i was born"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:13:50 AM)
Were you raised by him?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:14:52 AM)
" aye we were all riase by father monty and his pack and sister anges pack and the older childern

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:16:15 AM)
Did you feel like they were family?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:16:43 AM)
" o'course....i mean..."*she looked down again*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:18:02 AM)
If they were your family, didn't you feel loved by them?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:18:32 AM)
" i aye"

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:19:01 AM)
Then why would you feel abandoned?

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:19:53 AM)
*he listened to star and fedor and wasabe could see that look in jeremys eyes that hes seen before.*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:23:00 AM)
" i just wish i know mi partents and mi birth family... i know nothing, even david and evie have vague memories of thier parents"*she yawn*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:24:14 AM)
((nightnight))

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:25:02 AM)
*he saw her yawning and glanced away for a moment* We can talk another time Sings of Life. Why don't you get some rest?

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:25:26 AM)
" if ye be sure"

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:25:48 AM)
*she just curled up right there and was out in a minute*

Star That sings of life (Sep 15, 2010 1:25:50 AM)
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Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:26:40 AM)
*he slowly stood up from where he had been sitting, looking back over his shoulder at Jeremy and Wasabe, casting a quick gaze towards the door not wanting to disturbe their sleeping packmate as he started towards the porch*

Wasabe Nigig (Sep 15, 2010 1:26:42 AM)
*moves over to the sleeping cub and then scoops her up to take her to her bed so she will sleep better*

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:27:06 AM)
*he watched her fall asleep and looked at wasabe then moved off to follow fedor..*

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:28:31 AM)
*he glanced over his shoulder as Wasabe carried her off and then slid outside, leaning on the railing with a slight sigh and a small shake of his head*

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:30:47 AM)
*he looked at fedor and leaned against the wall of the house* What is it?

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:33:43 AM)
Go on be honest, im quite level headed.

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:35:07 AM)
She is troubled. More like a wolf-born than she is homid born. She seems not to wish to trust easily, but wants to be trusted in turn. She took a mate too soon and now the fact that she is with child is only overwhelming her more. It will be best for the child that she is not the one to care for it when it is born. It will take a great deal of effort to focus her back on the duty she has to Gaia.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:38:16 AM)
*Jeremy responded with* well i should prepare you for what you might hear at the sept. Not only did she sleep with 2 others beside her mate, which i only thought was one until you spoke to her just then, but she also confessed her "love" to her old female alpha. Did not have the ability to do it face to face had someone else deliver the message for her, but admitted her intent to the truth catcher, she is currently not supposta be around kinfolk alone.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:39:35 AM)
And as you can see it has caused much amosity from her old pack and ours though we have straightened much of it up. Further more, we have been trying to teach her, though my beta tells me when he spoke to her old pack, they also tried to train her but she never learned, or claimed she forgotten when they remined her of the lesson they taught her.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:41:07 AM)
From what she told us, she grew up thieving and prositituing instead of hunting in the woods.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:41:50 AM)
Its not just garou lessons she fails at, but basic lessons of morality and honor that she has trouble grasping as well.

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:42:21 AM)
*he sighed heavily* That could be why she has so little urge control. She grew up like a feral animal. No different than how a wolf grows. It will take time and patience to teach her what is right. Morality and honor mean little to one who has never known either.

Wasabe Nigig (Sep 15, 2010 1:46:05 AM)
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Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:48:08 AM)
*he looked at fedor* we are working on training her, but she continues to slide down slippery slopes of dishonor. Right now the pack is pulling together to train her on all sorts of levels, however this pulls us away from the goals we have as a pack and she isolates us from our duties to the sept.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:50:08 AM)
We can not defend her inability to even follow simple tennents of the littany, and what ever you might think of my tribe, none of us make it past our rite of passage without knowing the tennents of the littany

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:51:04 AM)
and going through a third party means she wanted others to find out, and shows her cowerdice to face the alpha herself as if she was purposely trying to get caught.

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:51:40 AM)
I have no doubt of that Vision of Victory and should she slip too far down, we will have no choice but to punish her accordingly. I would like to try and redeem her however. Is that not what you are trying to do with your totem? How can we claim to redeem a great spirit, if we cannot redeem one wayward Garou?

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:52:58 AM)
*He looked at fedor* You would like to try and redeem her? By training her yes? For she has allready been judged..

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:53:43 AM)
I would try and redeem her, yes. Not necessarily through training. But I would try.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 1:54:21 AM)
Not through training then how? If she is not taught how to act correctly how will she ever be redeemed?

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 1:55:48 AM)
In the same way that one teaches a child. You do not train them. You nurture their better nature while guiding them. I believe she knows what you have to teach. She is choosing to ignore it.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:00:33 AM)
*nods his head* exactly she is ignoring it

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:01:51 AM)
What was it you said though? We are not nursemaids we are warriors of gaia?

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 2:03:16 AM)
*he smirked lightly* You are skilled Vision of Victory. But you must understand that those words were meant for her, in regards to her child.

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 2:05:09 AM)
We are not nursemaids, but to ignore the suffering of one of us makes us no better than the enemy. Give her until the child is born to redeem herself. She is moderately useless as a warrior while she is with child and we would not want to risk the birth of a Garou. I will take responsibility for her training. The rest of the pack need not put forth anymore effort than they are capable of without lessening their other duties.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:12:50 AM)
we must we are a unit and the beta insists on aiding her and she seems eager to speak to our alpha, i will see you thursday brother(remeber fang scene tomarrow)

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:04 AM)
(i got to go lay down my tempeture spiked to 1023

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:25 AM)
102.3

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:26 AM)
(Whoa!)

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:33 AM)
(Holy crap, go get some rest)

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:47 AM)
(yes nite nite)

Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:48 AM)
(I'll see ya tomorrow)

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:53 AM)
(ok)

Jeremy Meers (Sep 15, 2010 2:13:58 AM)
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Valerian Fedor (Sep 15, 2010 2:16:54 AM)
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