Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:03:36 PM)
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Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:04:57 PM)
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Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:06:57 PM)
Now first I would like on a ooc level to adress how much renown your chr loss and what it means to you

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:07:18 PM)
Crom: Not submitting to those of Higher Station -3 Honor Crom was disrespectful to Liberty Almost Lost -yuf when she asked him to move his motorcycle that he parted next to the porch to the parking lot as it did not belong next to the porch. He told her something to the effect of yeah well Wolves don't belong in the Bayou. Also his attitude during his trial towards an Adren of the Tribe was unacceptable by Tribal standards.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:07:47 PM)
as crom has no honor to take away this actualy does not effect you for you have none to loose and there is no -minus renown that you are allready at zero with

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:07:53 PM)
Is Bastian an Adren now?

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:08:01 PM)
Challenging a decision during war: -2 Glory, -4 Honor -2 Wisdom Crom during the battle with the Pyro hounds didn't wait as instructed for the Scouts to return from gathering the enemies numbers, he issues a Howl and Charged the Banes, this could have resulted in the Scouts being attacked before the Ahrouns could get to them to protect them as we were out of position while waiting for them to return.

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:08:14 PM)
I never challenged a Decision during war

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:08:45 PM)
I just disobeyed

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:08:51 PM)
As crom has no honor or wisdom he is -.2 glory on the above. You did not follow orders allow me to finish please before you comment or ask any questions.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:09:07 PM)
Being Deceptive: -3 Honor "In Regards to the Disobeying an order in combat, That mission was led by a non ahroun, non get of fenris, there combat protocol is wrong anyhow. Larissa Fostern Black Fury Ahroun was the battle leader for that scene.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:09:13 PM)
again you have no honor to loose

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:09:37 PM)
Living alone, without one's pack, except for ritual reasons. -3 Wisdom Crom has been without a pack since his arrival at the Sept, his many attempts at finding a pack have ultimately meet with failure due to his arrogance and inability to show respect to anyone other then himself.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:09:41 PM)
no wisdom to even loose

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:09:50 PM)
Stone of Scorn: -8 Honor, -2 Wisdom Suffering the Stone of Scorn and it's shame as Crom is forced to wear the stone until he can regain his honor.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:09:57 PM)
again no honor or wisdom to loose

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:10:28 PM)
effectivly the only thing you did get sacked with as you have 0 honor and 0 wisdom is -.2 glory

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:10:37 PM)
i am not done yet so let me finish

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:12:19 PM)
This chat does not allow cubs at any point in the game. As the rules state if you are a fostern you can get knocked back to claith by loosing enough of your renown to knock you back but as a claith you do not loose your rank of claith

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:13:05 PM)
you become seen poorly in the eyes of your tribe but you have allready underwent your rite of passage thus short of being ronin you do not revert to cub status.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:13:15 PM)
*Cub Garou* No Garou will be sanctioned whom did not have a legitimate Rite of Passage from there tribe. As such any garou whom looses renown below Cliath does not loose the rank of cliath, they are seen in the eyes of there tribe and the garou of the procreate as a very dishonorable, or unwise or even cowardice cliath. (depending on what renown they lost in game.) They will need to work hard on regaining there standing but are not reduced to cub status as no cub concept is allowed in game. How ever if you are a fostern or above and loose to much of your renown that you do not have enough to be that rank you will loose the rank along with that renown and become a claith once more.)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:13:38 PM)
the rules can be found http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3753 should you need them in the future for anything

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:14:07 PM)
so yes you are -.2 glory and last i knew bastain had gotten a adren challenge

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:14:42 PM)
was there a reason you asked about bastains rank?

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:14:52 PM)
I could have sworn he was fostern is all

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:15:05 PM)
And why does Crom have to wear the Stone of Scorn?

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:20:27 PM)
you only have to wear it for the night the rite is done

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:20:33 PM)
so says the book

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:20:46 PM)
You dont have to Wear it at all by what the book says

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:21:56 PM)
But alright, as long as he's still not wearing it

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:22:20 PM)
some do make you drag one but it depends on the sept

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:22:28 PM)
your not still wearing it no

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:22:53 PM)
its only for the night and it depends on the person who preforms it or the septs policy but it still only lasts for the night

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:22:55 PM)
Depends on the Sept yes

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:22:58 PM)
it is not like voice of jackal

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:23:12 PM)
where your stuck with it till the rites master deems otherwise

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:24:37 PM)
so are there any questions about what ive mentioned thus far?

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:24:58 PM)
nah

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:27:12 PM)
okay so even though crom lost no honor and wisdom it is only because he had none to loose in the first place

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:29:04 PM)
yep

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:29:44 PM)
hes been around awhile and should have had some sort of wisdom some sort of honor

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:30:20 PM)
Nah, Never claimed Renown because everytime I could have I just figured there would be enough people claiming negative renown on me to negate it

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:30:42 PM)
That and I dont beleive a Garou should claim renown without a Pack

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:31:31 PM)
these are the things you will need to work on durring the cource of this story arch, i know you want to go on a suicidal mission but your tarnished glory is barely in question here it seems crom seriously needs to appear more honorable and more wise in his actions if he is to retain any sort of postive reputation amongst his tribe in the area.

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:32:32 PM)
Cliath Ahrouns dont need to seem that Wise, You can get recognized for Wisdom by learning rites, thats easy, its Honor and Glory that is needed

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:32:34 PM)
also you where looking for a way to sort of give him a attitude change so he would fit some what better with the other pcs and get acceptence into a pack

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:33:10 PM)
Honestly, it doesnt matter what I do really, I will never get accepted to a Pack and Never get treated with Respect, If they dont respect Crom he wont respect them back, regardless of Rank

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:35:12 PM)
Okay so you told me if I was willing to run these scenes for you, you would make changes to the character have him grow in wisdom and honor so he fit better with the other pcs and could get into a pack. That was the purpose of this because you did not want to get rid of the character.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:36:02 PM)
Are you saying now that you have no intension of trying to meld in reguardless and that my efforts to give u what you asked me to will be for naught?

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:36:23 PM)
Yeah and Ive played him since the Stone and realized that noone will ever care what he does, all they will see is that he is an Asshole, and that he is Played by an Asshole

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:37:33 PM)
and No I wont completely change the Character into something different so he can fit, Might as well just make a CoG if I wanted to fit in, Crom is a Rage 6 Get Ahroun with the Berserker Flaw, he is always going to be a About to Frenzy Asshole, Honestly I havnt been doing him Justice because he hasnt frenzied on someone yet when he should have

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:37:36 PM)
So are you looking for a death scene here?

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:38:36 PM)
No, Im looking for a Scene for Crom to get into Better Graces with his Tribe

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:38:56 PM)
Not the PC's in particular, but the NPC's that he's never met

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:39:16 PM)
Cause it doesnt matter what the Sept Members think or the other tribes, what matters is the Spirits and the Tribal Elders

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:39:48 PM)
Okay well there is one npc and that npc wont be around for long as the npc is leaving i left it for the players to vote on in the fenris tribal forum section

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:40:24 PM)
Vote for what? I dont have the PW for that forum

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:40:33 PM)
pw fenriswolf

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:41:22 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=3749

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:41:46 PM)
its 60/40 right now

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:42:11 PM)
to me it says 50/50 with 6 votes

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:42:33 PM)
i seen 60/40 when i opened it unless someone just voted

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:42:56 PM)
Yeah I just did, its 60/40 Keep Jack

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:44:49 PM)
Honestly Lynn, I like you storylines for the most part and how you run things, but This venue is fucked up and Stagnant, Im trying my best to keep playing, but there is nowhere for Cliaths to go, No way to play a Unique Character without getting shit on, and its very hard for a Veteran player to play with Ranking PC's who dont even know the game

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:46:08 PM)
okay well here is the thing

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:50:20 PM)
jack would likely send you to maine to report to the tribe there about getting your ass in shape the fenris fashion. There is however another scene but its being run really late and on a monday evening.. for another player i could bulk you in with that player there neither fenris or ahourn however..

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:51:06 PM)
theres some fenris tones in the mission and you could aide them perhaps gain a friend allie or packmate of it in the end..

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:51:31 PM)
At this point, the only people Crom even puts up with is Caid

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:52:10 PM)
okay so you want to talk to jack lets do that and start from there we will jump start this off

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:52:34 PM)
I dont want to talk to Jack, Crom doesnt care what people want from him

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:53:26 PM)
I just dont want to delete Crom cause Ill likely just not make another pc

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:53:58 PM)
i though you said above that you didnt care what the pcs thought or the sept just the npc and the spirits

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:55:02 PM)
No I said it Doesnt matter what the PC's think, Only thing that matters is the SPirits and the Elders, I didnt say Crom, Crom thinks everyone in New Orleans is a Fucking Idiot, Including Jack

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:55:27 PM)
I said I didnt want to delete him and you said you could run a Personal Storyline to help him change some and get back in good graces

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:56:44 PM)
Okay tell me what it is you want? You don't want crom to change, you would like to be in a pack but you say no one will have you. You feel lousey about playing him not assholish enough as it is. You don't want scenes of redemotion because you plan on never changing your characters actions and thus will only loose what renown you gain. You don't want to die, you do not like how the other players play there pcs because you feel they are not being true to the tribe. I said i would run a personal storyline to help him change but you just said you would not change him reguardless.

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:57:28 PM)
I wont change him for no Reason, hence the scene

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:57:41 PM)
yes well then lets get to the scene shall we?

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:57:58 PM)
and I also said it doesnt matter how he changes, he's still a Rage 6 Berserker, and Everyone is going to treat him like a Idiot for as long as they all live

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 7:58:02 PM)
go ahead

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 7:59:00 PM)
(just checking the moon real quick)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:03:36 PM)
*While crom was moving through the swampy borders of the septs grounds, he could feel the waning cresent pulling at him. Perhaps it was not as strong at the brightness of his birth but it still seemed to add that edge of anger that others seemed to have such control of unlike him. He had travled these paths for quite a long time, homid form, lupus form he knew the scents the sounds all to well.. Always knew when he was getting to close to the plantation house due to the constant bickering and voices of those whom seemed to always be sitting and enjoying them selves as if they where blind to the dangers all around them. *

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:03:56 PM)
(let me know what form he is in)

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:05:20 PM)
-he was in homid like usuall, Hammer resting on his shoulder, shotgun strapped to his thigh, sweating and grubling as he slodged through the rising Swamp- Should have listened to Caid when he said not to be out here

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:13:52 PM)
*He could see the image of a guardian of the sept.. The guardian truly looked fucking exhausted though something kept him standing something kept him alert.. Something kept that dayum guardian strong through it all.. He noticed crom though he did not give him a verbal welcome he did not offer any fancey greeting or responce, it was merely a nod of agknowlegement and nothing more. Crom would have noticed on his travles to the septs that a few more guardians had been patroling the boarders in the recent month.. That even the wyrm foe had been taking up duities of defence rather then offence.. These where things a modi would notice..*

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:15:31 PM)
-he nods to the Gaurdian and keeps walking, Thinking about how the Gaurdians have to take this all on there shoulders when there was plenty of capable hands at the House doing nothing and spit out some his chew but kept walking the bawn-

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:22:13 PM)
*As he walked the Bawn he saw a unfarmiliar face. The man was in all black, black loose pants, black t shirt his pale skin and silver white choppy hair style could not hide the pure breed ozzing from beneith his flesh the man had a regal stature but even he was standing till watching the darkness lingure beyond the sweeping branches of the thick trees before him as if expecting a army to come crashing out at any moment..*

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:22:25 PM)
(pb 3 silver fang)

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:23:24 PM)
-glances at the figure but doesnt stop-

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:28:28 PM)
*He was getting closer to the sept cause he could hear the voices in the distance.. Though there was closer voices that caught his attension.. and he could see his tribal alpha hunched over with another man.. the other man had a stick in his hand and was carving something into the moist ground it seemed.. Captains voice responded* ~Captain~Yes I will.. *Nodding his head as if swareing some vow..*

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:30:04 PM)
-he approaches the Captain and spits once so not to suprise them-

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:33:48 PM)
*Captain turns to look up at crom when he heard the spit and he stood up with a wide grin on his face.. Then he looked at the warder whom he had been speaking to once more.. though seemed to be speaking to crom*I know this guy would love to help out with some freaking guard duty, he has no pack that i am aware of, no prior matings or anything of the sort he would need to deal with.

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:34:49 PM)
*Captain looked over at Crom* you be willing to do some guard duties with me?

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:34:55 PM)
Of course

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:35:06 PM)
(check skype and ill BRB)

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:35:10 PM)
It would be my honor

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:41:04 PM)
*then the Captain looked back at the Warder and responded with* There I have my partner I may be without my pack, but *He thumbed at Crom* He should be just fine to aid me in this task.. *The warder didnt look at all impressed with the good captains enthusiasum for taking a packless claith but he turned to crom none the less and said in the utmost seriousness even though his voice sounded drained from to many hours on his feet and not enough sleep* We thank you for your help, the sept thanks you for your help.. *The warder lifting up to his huge height looking back at the captain who motioned for the fianna to head out with a final* Get your rest you dun have long afterall..

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:44:51 PM)
..

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:47:54 PM)
-nodded to the warder then looked at Captain- Dont have long till what?

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:51:14 PM)
*The Captain looked at Crom*He don't have long till he has to be up to take his post back, sleeping is a luxary that is not bountiful to the man.. *He thumbed at Crom.. Then motioned for him to follow him* come on, we better head to our post, hope you have eaten allready.. It will be a long post and its not very entertaining which is likely why there are so few willing to aid in it round here.. But like you said, it is a fucking honor to aid in such a way.. *He was moving off seeming just as sure of himself as he always did. Not many appreciated that or found it one of his more endeering qualities..*

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:52:25 PM)
-he nods and heads after him- It will be fun

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:54:01 PM)
*The captain seemed a bit more pissed off then usual, perhaps it was simply due to the fact that the skald moon hung heavy in the sky above, or perhaps he to was annoyed at the way the guardians got little help around this place. Always the posidbility that he needed to travle that he had been stuck in one place for to damn long and it was nothing compared to where he had been or where he wanted to go.. What ever it was he just seemed rather pissed off about the whole senario.. When crom however said it would be fun the man chuckled and responded*I remember when i first heard bout you..

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:55:41 PM)
Was it when I threatened to Kill the Croc looking Metis and his Life Partner? or when I told Hans I couldnt understand a word he was saying?

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:58:01 PM)
I had drawn the tribe here together to speak of a mission i was heading on the umbral seas, asking if any where free to travle with me on the umbral waters to the legendary realm.. I had explained the dangers and afterwards there was allot of other tribal bussiness people wanted to bring up.. one was of you having ran at the enemy before you where permitted to and that all the enemies died not a single garou had even been injured and they seemed rather displeased by this.. I said "you know where this guy is cause i could really use a crinos cannon ball for the ship incase we run into some nasty umbral wyrm creatures.. "

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 8:58:53 PM)
Ive never been to see, though I heard of a Sept up north that Battles in Long boats on a Lake against the wyrm

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:58:56 PM)
One of them think it was caid said that you would likely do it, as if i had been joking, i looked at him and thought.. "wouldnt you?" how fucking awesome would it be flying from a cannon to throat choke a wyrm beast

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 8:59:46 PM)
*He nodded to crom*yeah we are a port of harbor for the very boats you speak of.

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 9:00:40 PM)
Nah, I said Up North, Sept of Wolverines Rage, My Father served there for a Year as Penance once when he was younger -he shrugs- If it gets you to the Enemy faster then Im all for it

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:01:44 PM)
the sept im from that is.. all fenris 100 percent eat your face for breakfast.. *He continued to walk towards the tree line to where they would soon be guarding* Yeah that was actualy my take on the whole situation..*He looked around..* I like to take the fight to the enemy, dun like waiting for them to arrive..

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 9:03:33 PM)
-he nods- They will come eventually, might as well take it to them before they get the chance to take it to us

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:09:17 PM)
*He grinned widely at Crom.. But once they reached the spot, captain became quite serious and very quiet.. he looked out into the darkness as if he was trying to notice anything.. he seemed to be concentrating at the darkness as if he did expect something some one or a party of somethings to come leaping out fo the darkness at any moment.. The fenris shifted down to a huge hispo form his fur a deep blood red from tip to tale.. Glistening the color of his furr was often seen as a omen amongst the fenris..*

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 9:11:22 PM)
-he cracked his neck and put some fresh dip in then crouched down with his hammer across his knees-

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:15:55 PM)
(okay it will become very boring from this point on for the remainder of this scene however it will soon get interesting.. when will you be able to play in part 2 of this arch because it is part of a main plot ive got to do for the entire sept.. Crom most certainly knows that he is needed.. After a 14 HOUR straight guarding shift only disturbed once by a random kin from the sept dropping them off a sandwhich and drink which captain refuses to eat because it will only take his attension away from what he is doing. crom will be allowed to sleep but captian tell him he will meet back up with him in 6 short hours for another shift)

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 9:16:45 PM)
(cant do it now?)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:16:58 PM)
(most certainly is not a glorious begining but it is part of something much bigger.)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:18:37 PM)
(Can't do what now?)

Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 9:19:07 PM)
The next part?)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:19:44 PM)
(finding out hold on)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:23:39 PM)
(The next part will be more sept wide as such I would like you and me to head to the sept grounds.. We will be waiting for a couple pcs there.. But more of this will be revealed you will be meeting captain jack there to start your "next" 14 hour shift)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:24:16 PM)
(So go to the sept grounds and act like your waiting for captain jack and that your early for your shift i will join you in a moment)

Gabby Girl (May 18, 2011 9:24:33 PM)
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Crom Doomblade (May 18, 2011 9:25:43 PM)
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