Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:00 AM)
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Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:05 AM)
Okay
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:14 AM)
Yesh?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:26 AM)
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Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:31 AM)
okay
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:37 AM)
so like april 1st
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:42 AM)
it started
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:06:49 AM)
now this is real life
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:07:01 AM)
my ridiculously dramatic real life
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:07:28 AM)
that you would simply think was a bunch of tv episodes like special victums unit/ gone without a trace/ and house
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:07:57 AM)
so april first the 21 year old woman whom lives with her mother upstairs from me went missing
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:08:20 AM)
Alright?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:09:07 AM)
shes mentaly disabled person randomly goes home with anyone with a friendly face and tries to bring random people home to her mothers place as well.. well when she never came home from work her mother called the police station.. (her mothers brother is a cop as is her mothers uncle)
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:10:00 AM)
The police tell her they can not search for the girl till after 24 hours, because of her age.. the mother excplains her daughter is disabled and need her medication and had a folie but the police again tell her not till after 24 hours
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:10:10 AM)
almost a week goes by
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:10:49 AM)
at this point i am with mads and you in a scene and if you remember i was being rather slow as captain jack when your two characters met and i told you that there was news people on my front porch
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:11:29 AM)
well the news people where there because the girl had yet to be found, and they where interviewing the parents and getting pictures of the girl and such which was aired on the news here
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:11:45 AM)
so that is the "gone without a trace"
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:12:43 AM)
that evening the girl called home her mother said the girl did not sound "with it" but said "i said im moving out ill be there tomarrow at 9 pm to pick up my things" the mother asked where the daughter was the girl gave an adress the police went to that adress and of cource the girl was not there
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:13:58 AM)
so the next day (and this is where the special victums unit part comes in) the girl arrives on the block with bruises around her throat a ripped blue demin dress bleeding from the waist down in convulsions gripping a cell phone that is not hers
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:14:35 AM)
Wow
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:16:07 AM)
on the cell phone that she was gripping was pictures and small video clips of what the 5 guys did to her the entire time they where holding her "prisoner" the girl in the pictures was completely drugged up and out of it, i will spare you the details and just say the movie "crow" what happened to his girl friend, well this girl lived some how though worse treatment.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:17:16 AM)
each guys face was oddly exposed in these pictures and it was one of these guys cell phone that she was holding not her own, why would they let her go with the cell phone how did she arrive on our block? these all remain a mystery to this day.. Cause she remembers very little, when she went to the hospital (here comes the episode of house)
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:17:22 AM)
Sheesh.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:17:47 AM)
That's crazy.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:17:51 AM)
And scary.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:18:30 AM)
They do what they can for her physical issues they said had she been gone 6 more hours her bladder would have exploded inside her and she would be dead (cause of her folie) they said the men who had her obviously did not let her eat or drink much of anything and that is the only reason she made it so long alive without her foliey
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:20:22 AM)
however they never cat scanned her so she returned home and by the next day her bleeding brain had truly screwed her up and she couldnt walk couldnt move couldnt talk they brought her back to the hospital they do the cat scan and of cource appologise they send her home in wheeel chair and diapers at this point.. and back upstairs she went.. her poor mother could not get the insurance to pay for anything more then a nurse 3 times a week
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:20:36 AM)
Cause of her folie?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:21:06 AM)
Foley catheter.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:21:16 AM)
no because her brain was bleeding they never cat scanned her she had a stroke they had assumed it was the drugs the men had given her but it was really a stroke
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:21:52 AM)
now shes incapable of walking she cant even eat on her own cause she cant lift her hands she can barely speak
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:23:11 AM)
last night durring the scene i was running her mother came down crying the nurse whom had come said the girl needed to be in a rehabilitation place till she could function better cause at this point she is pretty much unable to do anything allmost like a vegtable..
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:23:36 AM)
Wow. That's horrible.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:24:37 AM)
so they had to move her off in a ambulance last night.. and yet the last thing i see in any of the news reports was her missing status, the cops said they caught 2 of the men but that was 2 nights ago and nothing has reached the papers about it. the only thing thats been on the news or the papers was her "missing" report nothing since then
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:25:33 AM)
Weird.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:25:40 AM)
Where do you live?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:25:44 AM)
so yeah this is what ive been dealing with since april 1st, i some times "baby sit" not really a baby but the girls brother is autisitc and ive been sort of helping them by watching him so hes not exposed to all this stuff cause it gets very confusing for him
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:26:06 AM)
buffallo
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:26:14 AM)
They do that so the people who commit the crime can think they may be still safe.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:26:43 AM)
*Nods*
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:26:49 AM)
Makes it easier to catch them if they don't think the girl has been found with evidence to connect them to the crime.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:27:03 AM)
http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/buffalo/Buffalo-Police-search-for-missing-woman
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:27:25 AM)
also to play on a guilty conscience.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:27:31 AM)
they got there photos from that cell phone and all the dna evidence they can handle
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:27:52 AM)
if someone knows who someone who did it they may tattle.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:28:24 AM)
im wondering if the womans brother and uncle are going to be able to handle this..
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:28:46 AM)
cause i cant imagine police being to friendly to men who do this to a detectives niece
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:29:27 AM)
but they could screw up the case if they deal some sort of personal justice to these men ya know?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:29:52 AM)
*Nods*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:30:19 AM)
That is a lot to deal with.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:30:40 AM)
so Gone with out a trace/ Special Victums Unit/ House have nothing on the shit that happens in my life let me tell you.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:30:50 AM)
I'm surprised you have been on here as much as you have been... but maybe it's a good escape for ya.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:31:33 AM)
I am sorry you have had those experiences.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:31:43 AM)
it has been a good escape.. its kind of a stress filled situation here ya know? To have some place to escape the drama of reality i am awarded the drama of make belive which is much less stressfull..
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:31:46 AM)
Me too!
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:32:06 AM)
*Hugs GG*
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:32:12 AM)
I hope they do not ruin your outlook on people. Some people are bad. Most people are not.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:32:34 AM)
I don't think scratchy or I are bad people. :D
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:32:48 AM)
... Mostly I don't think Scratchy is a bad person. ;D
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:33:00 AM)
*Chuckles*
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:33:17 AM)
No they won't ruin my outlook on people.. Bad things happen to good people all the time, and Ive seen pretty much everything Born and Raised in New york theres little I have not witnessed first hand, this is one of those things that just compounds with the rest of it.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:33:54 AM)
I like that I grew up out in the country and didn't experience this sorta stuff.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:34:39 AM)
It keeps my eyes open to the possibilities. I am allready quite complex a person with my monkish ways so I feel quite safe in my enviorment cause I go the extra mile to make sure I am safe..
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:34:54 AM)
*Nods*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:35:03 AM)
Good.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:35:32 AM)
So, what's next in the game?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:35:41 AM)
We have the Elder Challenge coming up.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:36:16 AM)
We should try to resolve the Kim issue.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:36:19 AM)
Ohh well im about to run some spirit stuff for a fang theurge that is out where mads chr is currently.. you guys have a trip to the fenris tribal homelands comming up before the elder challenge
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:36:23 AM)
And we got the Lodge to build.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:00 AM)
and yes the lodge to build hopefully mad will be coming home with some appliances from his trip to add to the fenris tribal ground buildings as well
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:01 AM)
When is the trip scheduled for... or don't we know yet?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:16 AM)
he could likely use a extra truck to bring some stuff back with him
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:27 AM)
Yes. Mads is doing lots of things.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:29 AM)
dun know if scratchy has a truck
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:35 AM)
we are going to have a barbecue in the park
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:37:44 AM)
Anne has 2 trucks.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:11 AM)
we have lukas' truck, mads' truck, and Sigyn's jeep
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:16 AM)
but mads could call and ask if scratchy could indeed bring a truck up to maine where mads is to bring back some of the stuff and i could run that scene with you guys purchasing the appliances
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:21 AM)
Sure
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:32 AM)
I was going to rent a trailer too
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:34 AM)
So, GG, can we talk about ways of fixing this Kim situation?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:49 AM)
cause mads and them also have a total of 9 people who need trasportation back still and well ya know thats a big thing
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:56 AM)
You aren't mad about it are ya? About the fact that Scratchy wouldn't want that to happen?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:38:57 AM)
we can talk about the kim situation yes
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:39:29 AM)
Can we talk about the arlais situation and that Tadi seems to want to jump mads' old, old bones <.<
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:39:31 AM)
I looked at the scene you sent me and I can't find where Scratchy agreed to a Trade or even agreed to let Captain Jack do whatever he wanted about it.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:39:55 AM)
im not mad about it, if im angry about anything its how it all got confusing and took months to be uncovered..
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:40:20 AM)
I'm sorry... I know I don't do well at noticing things in the forums.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:40:25 AM)
It's a weakness of mine.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:40:34 AM)
I'm not a good forum player.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:41:04 AM)
He isn't.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:41:12 AM)
I have to send him love notes every time i update the thread.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:41:45 AM)
lol
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:42:46 AM)
*Nods* He does.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:42:51 AM)
It's creepy.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:43:08 AM)
<3<3<3
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:43:20 AM)
I can tell you this, when a kinfolk mates with another of another tribe she becomes that tribes kinfolk.. also kinfolk can not "challenge" a garou, not even to "mate" another kinfolk, they have no rank and there for can "not" challenge a garou in any sort of the word.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:43:34 AM)
Basically, if Scratchy knew that they were trading his Ward he'd have thrown a fit.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:44:02 AM)
When a kinfolk mates with a True of another tribe, she becomes that tribes kin.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:44:06 AM)
Scratchy wanted kim to be happy, he spoke volumes about this mark guy saying he killed a spiral ect. ect.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:44:22 AM)
Not necessarily when they mate with another kin.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:44:23 AM)
okay well here is where that gets convaluted
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:44:48 AM)
which was brought up in the elders meeting .
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:45:10 AM)
Mark still never challenged Scratchy to become Mates
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:46:08 AM)
if kim had a child with mark, and mark got claimed by a fianna (which the elder said any true fianna wanted to claim him they could cause kim was not fianna kin) the children would have went to mark and his new mate as kim was not mated and would have been raised as fianna not fenris cause she had no claim to said children as she was not mated to a true born and mark would have been
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:46:48 AM)
so kim would have lost her (boy friend mate fiance what ever) as well as her children from that coupling should she have had any
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:47:12 AM)
and the elder did not see that as keeping kim at all happy in her new situation
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:48:20 AM)
Mind if I say a few things?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:50:20 AM)
go ahead
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:51:07 AM)
First off... There are posts in the forums about how kin can not be Claimed. The kin have to agree to anything like that at this Sept.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:53:13 AM)
Second, even if a Trade like that was a good idea I think that Scratchy and Kim should have at least been consulted... if not IC, then at least OOC.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:53:31 AM)
We had no idea this was even a possibility until it was already a done deal apparently.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:53:52 AM)
I realize that you may have somehow thought I knew about it... but that's not the case.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 11:54:37 AM)
I will say that I, as a kin am strongly uncomfortable about the idea of being traded off without consent or foreknowledge.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:54:43 AM)
The logs you sent me to prove that it was my idea turned out to do exactly the opposite. No where in that scene was a Trade mentioned and Scratchy didn't give Captain Jack permission to do that at all.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 11:55:26 AM)
Let me know when you finished and i will respond to each in turn
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:55:55 AM)
If the Elders wanted to make it a condition of Kim and Mark getting Mated that she had to go Fianna that is one thing. But to give her away just because they are dating and living together is totally screwed up.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:56:17 AM)
You can go ahead and respond to what I have so far.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:56:26 AM)
I'll shut up for now.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 11:56:28 AM)
*Chuckles*
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:00:57 PM)
1. We do not allow kin to be claimed by pcs they do not want to be claimed by. However some tribes do see kin as there territory and the fianna are pretty straight foward about that. They do consider there kinfolk there territory. This happened with a ic twist as one of there own kinfolk was in a very abusive ic situation "Fawn" and the npc elder was doing nothing to aid said kinfolk of its tribe or the children under said kinfolks care, in fact a pc fianna told said kinfolk to abandon her little brothers and sisters and take care of her tribe by paying for his apartment so he could move out of his mothers basement. (all ic mind you as crazy as it sounds they asked her to leave her siblings to a loonatic abusive drunk who leaves the house for months at a time her youngest sibling only 2 years old)
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:02:46 PM)
I understand there was a situation with Fawn... but really that shouldn't have anything to do with Kim.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:03:20 PM)
And it stresses more the necessity NOT to give one of our kinfolk to the Fianna... if they are assholes like that.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:04:14 PM)
Think of it like families. If I see another family abusing their kids, I'm not gonna trade my kids to them to get their kids out of that situation!
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:04:49 PM)
2. Yes scratchy should have been on board with it, and at least told and kim at least on a ooc level. This must have been a miscommunication on my end, for I was sure this was disscussed ic and ooc, but im falling short with finding the logs about it, as for kim I admitt never seeing that person ooc or ic, and only dealing with things on a ic level as they where brought to the elder. The trade was mentioned how ever it might have been another fenris whom mentioned them, and i misunderstood and thought it was you is what most likely happened and where my own fuck up likely came from, because as much as i am organized which i am, i truly am organized, even i can screw up 7 fenris icons in the same room and think one said something when it was the other. For that like i said would be my fuck up and not your own.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:05:54 PM)
I'm not blaming you.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:06:03 PM)
I just want to try to fix the situation now.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:06:24 PM)
hold on let me continue answering the questions and concearns you have above stated
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:06:24 PM)
I don't want Scratchy flipping out because he was betrayed by Jack.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:07:05 PM)
But it is okay to send his girlfriend and another kin up for a snuggly evening with grandpa kin in a cabin in maine?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:07:08 PM)
I mean.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:07:10 PM)
<.<
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:07:49 PM)
*Kills Mads*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:08:07 PM)
*Then hunts down his spirit in the umbra and does it again*
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:09:10 PM)
I understand you did not know this was an option, but some one brought it to jacks attension, jack tried to get the forsetti involved in a way to fix this, i nor the elder had any idea this was even a issue till it was brought up by the other fenris players asking for his aid in dealing with the matter.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:09:44 PM)
Bastian was probably the one that did this. He's had it in for Scratchy and Kim for a while.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:11:13 PM)
See, there was an issue like this before that got resolved by the STs.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:12:11 PM)
Scratchy had to fight hard to keep his guardianship over Kim before. He also spoke at length IC and I spoke at length OOC with the ST's so I understood the situation and the difference between dating and Mating.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:12:36 PM)
So I thought the whole Kim issue was done and over with because I dealt with it with other STs.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:17:27 PM)
now adressing mads first concearn. This will likely not happen again, as Ive spoken with the other sts whom are a bit fustrated with all of this. Kinfolk will have to stay to there own tribe in the future and cross tribal pairing will soon not be allowed what so ever once this is some how fixed. If a person wants to play some ones mate then they will be instucted to make a character of that persons tribe. If you are going to be living and shagging a member of another tribe, kinfolk or garou, expect to never be allowed to mate, and to take negaitve renown for being dishonorably mated, and for kinfolk well the rules have not been cemented so i won't go there, but treading on anothers territory is ill adviced. Kim sleeping with Mark was treding on fianna territory, did mark get permission from his elders to bang it out with kim? Did scratchy approach the fianna elder and ask that his ward be able to have such relations with there kinfolk? You will not have to worry about anyone switching your tribe on you in the
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:17:47 PM)
furture without your concsent as things are being put into motion to stop that from happening again
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:20:00 PM)
See... new ST's = New rules here that weren't an issue before.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:20:12 PM)
It sucks.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:21:57 PM)
Scratchy got permission from the Truthsayer and the Fianna Elder to let Kim be with Mark. I didn't realize then that I had to talk to the Fianna Elder as well since they never made any fuss about it.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:22:17 PM)
I will say I like the aspect of intertribal taboos as it adds a certain political element
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:22:21 PM)
The Truthsayer and Get Elder.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:22:34 PM)
So I wouldn't want it to go away entirely.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:22:45 PM)
okay now onto the ultimatum that was not given to kim dateing mark. I should have given it ic, but as me and the other st involved where under the impression that kim wanted to be with mark in the first place we had went along with it. We where trying to do the right thing via the tribal view found in the books in a way the players would be most pleased, kim could be mated to mark, as fianna they could be united ect. ect. Fawn would be fenris with Caid and get the help she needed ect. ect. We really did have the best intensions with this, and it reared back and bit us in the end when we where under the impression this is what the players wanted. Which obviously was not the case..
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:23:53 PM)
I understand that. It's why I haven't gotten upset with you at all.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:24:06 PM)
(Not that Mads would) but I like the idea that people can go through the trouble of politicking it out and the alienation that goes along with it. If you are willing to alienate not only your tribe but someone else's tribe by trying to poach their kinfolk; then that sort of roleplay should not be discouraged but the consequences should be played out.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:24:15 PM)
You're one of my favorite ST's and I know you had good intentions.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:26:28 PM)
I just want you to know that Scratchy will see this as Captain Jack backstabbing him out of no where. Kim will likely flip out. It's just going to be BAAAD all around.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:26:29 PM)
*nods* it was the fianna elder that was never informed or asked permission of, thus when jack went to speak to him it was pretty much "if kim has kids they will be raised with fianna tradition if fawn has kids they also must be raised with fianna tradition.." and jack was like "what did you just say?"
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:26:52 PM)
I need to go to the shops before they close.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:27:00 PM)
See ya Mads.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:27:02 PM)
I will be back within an hour and a half.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:27:05 PM)
see ya mads
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:27:26 PM)
Scratchy wouldn't be a good diplomat in that situation.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:28:00 PM)
He'd probably say "If you ever wanna have kids, you'll start playin' fair."
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 12:28:25 PM)
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Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:30:04 PM)
Still there GG?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:30:10 PM)
Likely scratchy would not have been a good diplomat in that situation. But lets get to how we can fix it
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:30:25 PM)
*Nods* Ok.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:30:44 PM)
Scratchy could launch a sneak attack and kill all the Fianna.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:30:59 PM)
We'll call that Plan B
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:31:05 PM)
1 kim can break up with mark move out of his house, and say she does not want any part of him or his tribe.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:31:27 PM)
she would there for be fenris kin once more as she can always return to her tribe if her relationship with mark does not work out
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:31:48 PM)
that is allowed in both the books and the chat you are allowed to revert back to your old tribe
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:31:55 PM)
That mean Anne and Scratchy hafta move out of Marks too?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:03 PM)
lol no
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:18 PM)
Scratchy doesn't wanna hafta turn Fianna though!
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:18 PM)
anne and scratchy can live where ever they want to
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:46 PM)
from what i understand
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:53 PM)
kk
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:53 PM)
kim has money and is like some model
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:32:58 PM)
Yep.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:33:04 PM)
so it wouldnt be like she could not move out of marks
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:33:11 PM)
she wouldnt be homeless
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:33:16 PM)
She has Resources 4... which is another reason we don't wanna give her away.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:33:28 PM)
just because she is fianna kin
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:33:46 PM)
does not mean scratchy can not watch out for her, it does not mean she can not help the fenris tribe
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:33:59 PM)
*Chuckles* All that scrounging for stuff to build the get of Fenris buildings... well, she could help with that a lot I think.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:34:10 PM)
it pretty much only means shes fianna kin not that she has to hand the fianna her check book
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:34:51 PM)
Yes, but, you just said that the issue with Fawn was her being beaten by the Fianna and the Elder not doing anything about it.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:35:07 PM)
Can you imagine what would happen if some Fianna beat Kim and Scratchy found out about it?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:35:31 PM)
I mean, he's calmed down a lot since first coming to the Sept... but Scratchy is a mean son of a bitch.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:37:22 PM)
okay this is what i picture
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:37:29 PM)
some fianna beats kim
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:37:35 PM)
scratchy kills said fianna
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:37:49 PM)
and some one else hides the body and silences the spirits
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:37:57 PM)
cause
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:38:06 PM)
that is what i would see happening
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:38:11 PM)
and the fianna elder?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:38:18 PM)
*Nods*
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:38:43 PM)
Let me explain something here
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:38:51 PM)
Ok
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:39:37 PM)
as mark is her boyfriend/ fiance./mate okay if some one hits his wife that is a garou, he does not have to go to his tribe for aid, he can go to the garou who live in his house, the one he calls family the one whom respects him
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:39:51 PM)
he can go straight to scratchy as can kim for help if anything happens to them
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:40:24 PM)
you are still kims family as well as marks fianna are supposta uphold the family and i dont see why you think you can not protect them
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:41:03 PM)
Alright... so... how about this....
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:41:12 PM)
you can protect them you can be firece about it your a fenris modi and they are important to you, ripping off a few heads to prove it of anyone who comes close to them with ill intent is perfectly acceptable
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:41:15 PM)
and
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:41:19 PM)
one more thing
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:43:02 PM)
Kim is given a choice about joining the Fianna and Mating with Mark or not. Scratchy knows about the situation ahead of time and gets to discuss it with her. Mark also has to challenge for Kim and she does not become his Mate and Fianna kin until Mark completes said task.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:43:07 PM)
Jack assumed you would and if you wanted that scene i could give it to you, or i can tell you what he would have said to you cause it would go down like "listen she is still your family, she will need protection as neither her or mark is garou, i know you are modi, and will snap the neck of any whom try to bring her harm. If that tribe is incapable of protecting there kinfolk, we can do it for them.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:43:09 PM)
Does that sound fair?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:47:12 PM)
you guys can have your back dated scene, but if kim does want to date mark she understands she becomes fianna kin, you can back date the scene you do with her, and keep it between you her and mark cause its allready been posted to the forums and been responded to by other players which is what makes this messy.. as for the mark challenging for her, if he wants to challenge for her that is between you and him but the story scratchy told about him aiding in killing the spiral was seen as all the proof the elders had needed.. all the good stuff scratchy said about mark was actually taken into account when permisison was granted..
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:50:06 PM)
*Nods* Scratchy was going to have Mark make a book of Lore for the Sept when he challenged for her.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:50:22 PM)
Mark has tons of Garou Lore and stuff.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:52:08 PM)
that is perfectly acceptable
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:52:35 PM)
Can you give me your opinion on something else?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:52:58 PM)
if you guys want to play that in a back dated sort of way i would actualy like that and agree with it since you guys truly seemed to miss out on what was going on and i was obviously confused on things i take fault here
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:53:18 PM)
What do you think of these specialties for Scratchy?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:53:21 PM)
Dexterity Specialty: Precision
Stamina: Tough as Nails
Brawl Specialty: Fightin' Tooth and Nail
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 12:59:45 PM)
.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 12:59:57 PM)
hmm
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:00:09 PM)
I like fightin tooth and claw
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:00:19 PM)
it really does fit him
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:01:33 PM)
stamina tough as nails is rather fitting as well.. cause scratchy does sort of seem like the kind who could eat nails for breakfast but hes got that squishyness to him.. like i love polar bears i think there adorable but i know they would remove my head if i got to close..
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:01:55 PM)
the precison thing though i mean im not sure about that one is it in the book?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:07:06 PM)
i would think you want that one for your fire arms?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:07:39 PM)
brb
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:07:49 PM)
you could take a fire arms specialty when you raise that to four
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:07:56 PM)
okay well ill be here
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:12:44 PM)
back
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:12:52 PM)
I did. Shotguns
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:12:57 PM)
It's on my sheet already.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:13:25 PM)
Precision isn't in the book.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:13:37 PM)
You have a better idea for a good Dex one?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:16:33 PM)
let me look cause i think some thing better might be suited
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:17:19 PM)
kk
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:17:21 PM)
Thanks.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:17:31 PM)
Scratchy is going to try to get Trollskin as well.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:17:43 PM)
i would say lightning reflexes
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:17:56 PM)
i mean it would make sence
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:17:57 PM)
Ok.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:18:00 PM)
and
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:18:07 PM)
if you ever did roll a 10 on inits
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:18:12 PM)
I thought precision would work with all his intricate carvings and woodwork.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:18:20 PM)
you would get to reroll for XTRA suxxs
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:18:34 PM)
Interesting.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:18:40 PM)
as well as if you ever try a dodge as your first attack in a scene you should be able to reroll tens
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:01 PM)
as youre lightning reflexes would keep you quick as hell
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:07 PM)
*Nods*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:19 PM)
Lightning reflexes should help with any dodges I'd think.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:28 PM)
Since yer always reacting to it split second.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:42 PM)
and since scratchy is such a brawler i would think that would be perfect for his dex and be easier to explain
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:50 PM)
yup
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:19:52 PM)
Scratchy doesn't normally dodge though... he blocks usually.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:26:07 PM)
*nods* could help with blocking as well
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:26:08 PM)
So... anything else to discuss?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:26:11 PM)
its a klightning reflext
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:26:16 PM)
and dex is used in blocking
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:26:29 PM)
are you happy with this out come then?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:26:34 PM)
Feeling a bit better about it?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:28:33 PM)
Yes... as long as Kim has a choice beforehand and Scratchy is not suddenly thrown out of her life.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:29:03 PM)
Just to warn ya... my next XP request is a long one. *Chuckles*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:30:30 PM)
*Hugs* Thanks for working things out with me!
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:36:53 PM)
no problem.. and for your xp request you might not want to request all stats of 4 in physical in one request its a bit much.. but just a heads up on that one and make sure you fill it out the way the board says though you should have plenty of reasoning with all the scenes you have been in
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:38:03 PM)
He already has Dex and Stamina 4
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:38:13 PM)
He's only requesting Strength 4 this time.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:38:29 PM)
I just didn't assign any Specialties to the ones I have.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:38:37 PM)
oh lol
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:38:48 PM)
You think Brute is a good Strength specialty?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:43:06 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:43:43 PM)
I like upper body myself
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:43:52 PM)
I, uh.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:43:52 PM)
cause ya know your mouth and claws are upper body lol
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:43:55 PM)
Should I go?
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:43:59 PM)
teeth and claws lol
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:44:04 PM)
where you going mads?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:44:13 PM)
I don't know.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:44:27 PM)
I got my dinner and I come back to the thought that you like Upper Body.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 1:44:39 PM)
as a strength specialty lol
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:45:17 PM)
Hmmm
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:45:23 PM)
I suppose I could do upper body.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:51:10 PM)
Oh, I like mighty.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:51:19 PM)
Because then I work it into every description of my actions
Samantha Brightstar (Apr 15, 2011 1:51:34 PM)
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Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:51:38 PM)
and I sound like a comic book hero.
Samantha Brightstar (Apr 15, 2011 1:51:54 PM)
((is this a ooc room?))
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:52:14 PM)
MIGHTILY, he hurls his axe with all of his strength at the head of his foe, ripping asunder flesh from bone...
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:52:53 PM)
Yes it is OOC.
Samantha Brightstar (Apr 15, 2011 1:52:59 PM)
ok lol was not sure
Samantha Brightstar (Apr 15, 2011 1:53:11 PM)
yes the room name should of told me that but I wanted to make sure
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:53:49 PM)
*Pulls Mads arms out of his sockets*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:54:29 PM)
Awww... Look at mister floppy arms!
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:54:44 PM)
I will just have to become more better at life than you.
Samantha Brightstar (Apr 15, 2011 1:55:01 PM)
Doom!
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 1:57:22 PM)
I can help you become REAAAAL good at life if you keep messin' with Anne.
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Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 1:57:56 PM)
;D
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:05:05 PM)
oklies so you two ready or is scratchy to busy?
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:05:13 PM)
I'm not busy.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:05:16 PM)
Ready for what?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:06:26 PM)
our battle royale.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:06:29 PM)
the trip to maine to offer a truck and help move some of the appliances back to new orleans
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:06:30 PM)
lol
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:06:34 PM)
where you learn why women really prefer older men.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:06:48 PM)
lol
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:06:50 PM)
;D
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:07:12 PM)
as a woman i have to agree with that statement
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:07:18 PM)
YOU WILL MC PHEAR -ME-, SON.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:07:24 PM)
lol
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:08:46 PM)
mads is only like, 12 years older than scratchy
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:11 PM)
never realised scratchy was 38
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:12 PM)
nice
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:26 PM)
Yes.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:31 PM)
its rare to see age in a garou unless there was a really late change
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:43 PM)
Yes, I do not know what is wrong with him, then.
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:47 PM)
i mean...
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:49 PM)
<.<
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:51 PM)
;D
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:09:59 PM)
I am only teasing, Scratchy.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:10:02 PM)
fact is they mostly shift at puberty so really 18 is sort of old for a cliath of certain tribes like glasswalkers
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:10:14 PM)
whom get the 48 hour rop
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:10:39 PM)
Scratchy travelled a lot... didn't really settle into any sept for a long time.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:10:53 PM)
That's how I explained him being an older Claith.
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:12:22 PM)
*nods*
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:12:49 PM)
That and most people don't like him until they get to know him better.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:13:04 PM)
So he didn't get a lotta opportunity for Renown.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:13:14 PM)
So where we goin' GG?
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:13:30 PM)
Maine!
Gabby Girl (Apr 15, 2011 2:13:43 PM)
Maine lol
Mads Jacobsen (Apr 15, 2011 2:13:46 PM)
OH.
Scratchy McPhearson (Apr 15, 2011 2:14:28 PM)
Did...er... Scratchy go along to Maine then?
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