Dalton Fortman (Dec 16, 2010 11:56:35 PM)
Honor Dalton Fortman, Honor Thy Father, Half Moon Pre Change cub, yes Honor.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 16, 2010 11:56:45 PM)
It is a fitting name

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 16, 2010 11:57:14 PM)
I was speaking of my own sense of honor really. I don't risk another's family.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 16, 2010 11:57:36 PM)
Someone annoys me? They personally are fair game but my ..."games" don't extend to there family.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 16, 2010 11:58:39 PM)
Your home adress is safe enough with me.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:01:06 AM)
*nods to Sarah* I don't normaly play games at all to be honest. I just fight the way the best way I can, Honor my tribal totem and everything I have been blessed with. I protect them for they are an extension of him and gaia, they are the proof of the only hapiness we as garou are given in this existence till we die and asend to our home lands. Those lucky enough to have homelands that is. I have hjeard stories not everyone has a home land. I have no idea what happens to them at that point. But I have also heard stories of reserections. That i have nooo clue about, how could someone die and come back in another body in the future, like what was your spirit doing all that time? Is it a ansestor spirit being confused for a past life? No clue..Really no clue

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:02:54 AM)
Oh you want my theories? My totem is death after all.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:03:34 AM)
*He nodded*I would like your theroies it would help educate me more on the subject. I do find it fasinating all in all so any information you wish to share, please do.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:03:36 AM)
As for games...theres games and games.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:08:22 AM)
All tribes have homelands. I understand Striders have....lost access of theres due to whatever events made them lose there homelands. Some mystical event I do not understand.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:10:26 AM)
Now....when we die, most of us do end up at the homelands. Which usually reflect whatever tribal legendary expectations we have of such things. These homelands are definately overseen by the totem broods themselves as well.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:11:04 AM)
*Listens to her carefully*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:11:43 AM)
Sometimes a totem may choose for a soul to be reborn on earth....for whatever reason the spirits may have. Sometimes the garou feels something is unfinished, OR desires to defend Gaia on the earth plane again. Those seem to find there way into being reborn.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:12:06 AM)
....though Owl says less and less...find there way to this. Something is wrong with the realms of death.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:13:19 AM)
*listens to sarah carefully* you would think they would all want to come back.. There has to be a way yes? Did he tell you what is wrong with the relms of death? Do kinfolk not go to the homelands?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:16:49 AM)
Humans go a different place. There are......levels of the umbra garou can not typically travel. They overlap this world but are not of it. It's called the Dark Umbra.....I think the Wyrm and the inbalance of the world has effected things there too. Never been there, of all I know the realm is human heaven and hell or Gaia only knows what. Striders say they used to guide souls there. But.....lost the knack or had it fucked up. Thats why theres ghosts. Lost human souls. Owl has us try to help them.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:21:02 AM)
As for kinfolk.....I don't know.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:23:14 AM)
*Raises a brow and then lights the edge of the ciggar the scent of chocolate lifted into the air it smelled allot like coco puffs.. And he lit it watching it before placing it to his lips and inhaling deeply.. his body seemed to symotaneously relax..* so you told me humans go to a different place. I imagine they would, but here is my question. Perhaps it was us slaughtering them like cattle that fucked up this whole process.. If the striders where all of a sudden given a mass influct of human souls to guide whom saw great atrocities done by our own hands.. Perhaps this is how it all got so fucked up the anal cavity. *Then he took another hit of the chocolately scented ciggar looking thing holding it in his lungs deeply..* And if the striders could not keep up with the demand.. Thus they lost the privlage of doing it? Perhaps even there homeland is the land of lost souls and this is why they can not enter it?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:24:01 AM)
No. Wyrm had something to do with it.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:24:17 AM)
Otherwise Owl would have forsaken them.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:26:51 AM)
*He looked at her*I am not saying this was there fault mind you.. But yes the kinfolk is my main concearn, where do they go, because this lost soul place is not appropriate last stop for gaias dedicated children to rest. There has got to be something for them in the end. And what sort of homeland would it be with out them?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:27:26 AM)
Maybe they are there.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:27:32 AM)
Travel there and find out.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:27:46 AM)
*He looked at her* you tellin me to go kill myself?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:27:46 AM)
I intend to someday...and preferably without dying first.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:28:15 AM)
*looks at Dalton* You CAN travel to the tribal homelands by moonbridge and other means.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:28:30 AM)
You've not done much umbral travel.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:28:31 AM)
*He looked at her* really?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:28:48 AM)
*face palms*

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:29:00 AM)
No I have not, my life has been quite complicated. Time for umbral travling has been slim to well none really..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:29:59 AM)
I've been been to two of what we call the Near Realms.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:30:10 AM)
..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:30:10 AM)
...

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:30:32 AM)
What ones? What where they like?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:31:22 AM)
Atherarial realm is the realm of the sky and planets. To fly among the clouds and on the back of the wind. We were on a search for a pathstone for a new sept then.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:31:36 AM)
I ....saw Luna.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:32:35 AM)
*He looked at her* you saw luna? *eyes wide a bit.. he takes another large inhale then leans foward offering it to sarah* I always picture her with a round belly and a big head her arms and hands i cant really see but shes glowing a bright whiteness..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:32:35 AM)
To me she appeared as a silvery maiden...but with such power....and I know thats only the face I could comprehend.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:33:00 AM)
*Hears her description* fefinately not how i pictured it

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:33:15 AM)
Umbra....sort of shirts to your preceptions.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:33:32 AM)
....the other realm was the Abyss.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:33:57 AM)
Picture the Grand Canyon....except the land is grey and barren, and the sky is forever shrouded.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:34:16 AM)
Now picture the grand Canyon as having no bottom, and it falls forever into darkness.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:34:49 AM)
I saw it....and cowered. *frowns at that memory*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:35:08 AM)
Not a natural realm.....wyrm tainted...dangerous. Not a good place.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:35:14 AM)
*He looked at her..*don't sound like any vacation i'd want to take my family on.. you at least get to ride on the back of umbral donkeys?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:36:03 AM)
....The umbral donkies probably got eaten by the unseen beasts that skulked in the cave holes on the side of the cliffs.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:36:44 AM)
Well then it most certainly is not on my top ten umbral vacation hot spots..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:36:51 AM)
No.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:37:12 AM)
Might be going to another myself soon...my Adren challenge is getting complicated.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:38:08 AM)
Some place called Erebus, and all I know is it has a river of molten silver, and is sort of a garou version of hell.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:38:32 AM)
It'll be interesting.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:38:49 AM)
*there is a light in her eyes, Uktena curiousity is no random stereotype*

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:39:08 AM)
Your adren challenge.. Ohh a Garou Version of Hell! Jesus Christ on a Crutch I hope I get invited to that one! Holy Hell in a Hand Basket how could anyone not want that invitation!

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:39:40 AM)
Yeah tell me about it! *looks at the cigar*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:40:51 AM)
Chocolate?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:40:59 AM)
These things come in chocolate?

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:41:04 AM)
*He grinned and nodded* of cource, chocolate covered tye stick..

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:41:23 AM)
Spliced with coco beans

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:41:37 AM)
I don't smoke much...usually just ceremonial.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:41:55 AM)
*motions to the mini fridge* got some cool brownies in the fridge as well.. *as he leaned back and took another deep inhale*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:42:14 AM)
*raises a brow* Pot brownies?

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:42:38 AM)
Yeah pot brownies

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:43:03 AM)
*and she laughs deeply and well* You and Tristan have more in common than you know.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:43:22 AM)
*she accepts a brownie*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:43:27 AM)
*and munches*

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:44:06 AM)
*He looked at her with a small relaxed smile.. And watches as she takes the chocolatey browniey..* Soo what about these different tribal homelands.. you know any particulars about them?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:45:04 AM)
Not so much. Some things about my own that I don't feel like sharing. My sense is the Fenrir one is something like the Viking legends of Vahalla.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:45:55 AM)
...the others.....not heard accounts really. Fenrir you can get talking more easily to if you get them drunk.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:46:27 AM)
Course your trying to get me high....

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:46:36 AM)
*shes totally amused by the ploy*

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:46:49 AM)
*he snickered at the thing about fenris and alcohol..* thanks for the tip I just made a fenris aquaintence. I'll be sure to offer booze next time we hand out.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:47:09 AM)
Some might not bite. Bastian is a health nut.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:47:26 AM)
*He waved a hand at Sarah* dont mind my smoking, I enjoy it and do it often, I simply offer because you are a guest.. Its rude to bogart

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:47:39 AM)
I'll pass.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:48:49 AM)
Your family must be well off. My pack acomidations are much more modest.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:49:37 AM)
*He looked at her* My mate and myself are well off now yes. Hard Work Gritt and Determination.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:51:45 AM)
*chuckles* The world still doesn't pay scolars much.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:55:18 AM)
No it does not.. When we where younger my shifting was not the best, my mate happened to be present when i shifted. my shifting was to actually protect her from harm.. Anyway we had both come from pretty wealthy backgrounds we had never wanted for anything save our parents attension which was not avilable to us. They where always off travling ect. ect. *when he says ecxt. ect. he waves his hand in the air..* back to my first shift. so when i first shifted i was found by the shadow lords.. as was my girl friend.. we didnt even realise she was pregnant back then.. Though we had little choice at this point. When they cleaned up the mess i had made they hid me and her. We could not go back to our human parents at that point. to many questions would be asked and such.. So we had to learn about this new world of werewolves and spirits..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 12:56:43 AM)
*listens curiously*

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 12:58:18 AM)
I pulled two jobs right off the nitty gritty.. Durring studying with the tribe and trying to get up money for a place for us to live. When we found out she was pregnant I knew we needed to make more of ourselves. Our tribe determinaiton is key to sucess, and thus we did what we had to.. I got a shitty place in not the best part of town, and worked double shifts, and used the xtra money to get ready for our son, once our son was born she would take classes when i had the boy and i would continue my double shifts between work and tribal duties is why I have had such few umbral voyages.. We went from a roach infested one room apartment.. To this in that time.. It is also why we waited so long before having our second child.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:03:50 AM)
I see. My mother...has a respectable salary as a college professor at Berkley. Nice house. Not a bad life. But shes human. When she was younger she was a Hippy, did the Pow Wow circuit. Met my father. And my father ..........did something the tribe didn't really approve of. Nor would the Nation.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:05:12 AM)
He married her and tried the double life thing. Pretty big risk for a Galliard. Luckily mom was a gutsey type. By the time the tribe caught up with him I'd been born. He was looking at losing rank or worse when he slyly had me tested for being trueborn. Tribe was startled when I was.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:05:51 AM)
*smiled at her*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:06:22 AM)
He maintained his standing because I bred true. He later divorced my mother but that was more Mom thinking he was cheating on her. He couldn't really explain that he left for weeks at a time to fight Spirals you know.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:07:01 AM)
Father's day job is a songwriter. He cuts a nice profit from meditative Native American DVDs and the like.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:07:43 AM)
Hes a Storyteller of the Suquamish Nation as well. Helps the kin up North keep up a pretty good Revival movement.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:08:09 AM)
I spent my school years with my mom in Seattle and my summers with Dad at the rez.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:08:39 AM)
Didn't know I was garou until a bear tried to eat me at 16....after that well things got complicated.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:09:03 AM)
*He listened to her.. Takeing another deep intake of the chocolate scented goodness he gave her a nod when she said things got complicated.. *Things often do tend to get complicated.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:11:39 AM)
I finished highschool early. I'm smart. Get it from my mother. As clearly my dad thought with his gonads back then. ....my Rite consisted of me retrieving a certain misplaced Fetish. Thus one of my most common names for Nation's use. I managed to go to college, work my way up while also serving the local septs around where I am getting my education. It's brought me odd places. This Spring I'll be done. I hope to get work in Museums or with special collections. My hobby is looking through collections and retrieving garou artifacts....once even a fetish.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:12:31 AM)
Humans dig up what they shouldn't....MUCH too often.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:12:34 AM)
*He nodded his head to her*ahh the talisman seeker

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:16:24 AM)
*nods* I name I seem to keep re-earning.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:19:15 AM)
*He waited a moment*well I would be happy to keep communication open with you Talisman Seeker-Yuff.. You in turn plan on giving me information as well?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:19:52 AM)
Of course.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:21:04 AM)
*He nodded to her* What would you like this informaiton to entail? The wyrm activity in the city was what you originaly asked for?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:23:05 AM)
Mostly that....though if anything is just ol wierd or interesting I'd be game for that.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:23:56 AM)
*nods his head* Allright, and other odd behaviors from random kinfolk or garou? Things you might not know of? Or is that of no importance?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:25:02 AM)
*frowns* Only if you think the behavior change might be wyrm related or otherwise a disturbing sign. I mean I really don't need to know which Fianna is screwing which kin this month.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:25:45 AM)
cource not but perhaps a kinfolk being used to spy on another tribe..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:26:13 AM)
*raises a brow* I haven't stooped to using kinfolk.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:27:55 AM)
*He looked at her and shook his head* course not you.. *He placed his smoke back in the ash tray before looking back at her*I am simply asking if such information would be considered valuable trade in our future discussions..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:28:50 AM)
I suppose so....it's not like you'd tell me if the Lords were.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:29:18 AM)
But don't expect me to keep tabs on all the kinfolk. I have enough problems.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:29:21 AM)
Okay so did you have any informaiton for me upon this visit?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:32:27 AM)
*she considers* Theres been some excitement over Arsen fires....haven't really followed that one. I was along with the party who was trying to find that missing pack from Sept of the Boiling Sea. We found there fostern guide dead, and a blight area where Evie thinks the rest of the pack might be dead down in some ...tunnels it looked like. She decided we needed a larger raiding party before we poked around the tunnels. My questing stone rite suggested the city as well. Wierd shit. Also some sort of cat-bat Banes called Gremelkin about that blight in swarms.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:35:23 AM)
*Listened to her*yeah cat "bat" things.. I am checking into the fire thing myself currently. The cat bat things can go stay where they are for now.. I'm more concearned with the fact that these fire attacks are wyrm related and possidbly striking at our kinolk in the city. I wanna nip that shit in the butt before it gets out of control, to many kinfolk are in the city and at a serious disadvantage at the moment, bot kin of and not of the sept. So that is where my efforts have been directed thus far.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:36:32 AM)
I'm better at finding things. Lost pack needs finding even if they are corpses. *shrugs* It'll help keep descent relations with our neighboring sept anyway. If we find them alive all the better.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:37:08 AM)
*frowns* Unless...we find them as Spirals.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:37:17 AM)
*nods to sarah* well it seems wilhelm tackled some fire bane thing and the wyrm in involved in the arsens.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:37:58 AM)
*He looked over at her* if you find them as spirals cut them remove the spines cleanse there bodies in hopes to send there spirits back to gaia.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:38:09 AM)
(gut them)

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:38:14 AM)
I'm working on more creative ways for that.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:39:15 AM)
Good for you..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:40:19 AM)
*smirks* I need to be going.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:40:40 AM)
*he got up *I will escort ya out..

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 17, 2010 1:40:51 AM)
Of course you will.

Dalton Fortman (Dec 17, 2010 1:41:03 AM)
*and he moved towards the door.. To lead her back upstairs.. and out the door..*

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