Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:34:53 PM)
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Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:35:08 PM)
Alright let me go over and see what I can find.
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:36:47 PM)
For freebies I upped 1 attribute and 4 abilities for a total of 13 freebies
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:37:17 PM)
Alright first things first I can tell you your attributes are off.. Starting 7/5/3.. you 7/5/4 but your Socials you have to pay for that second 4 with Freebies as you cannot have 2 4's in attributes without spending hte freebies
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:37:27 PM)
it's like min maxing we don't allow that
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:26 PM)
ahhhhhhh
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:38 PM)
didn't know that about social
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:42 PM)
that's the first problem I am seeing
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:46 PM)
let me continue
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:40:09 PM)
Let me read your background real quick
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:41:10 PM)
this is email I got from Deem
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:41:13 PM)
Dig the background, well laid out. Good opening for growth in Resources, but it'd take lifting Finances to get it. Little wary about having Melee 3 and Dodge 4, yet never throwing a single punch. The sheet in general falls just within the guidelines of creation rules, but I'd prefer to see a bit more balance in it. Animal Ken 0, never had a pet? Etiquette 0, in Clan Tremere? Streetwise 0? Survival 0, never camped? Academics 2, but he has a Doctorate, which is 4? Just to name a few.
As it stands, I've got you at 24 freebs including Merits. Even with 7 in Flaws, you're overspent. Check out the sheet and either make the changes or let me know what you want to do.[/quote]
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:41:56 PM)
yeah I am reading it now... the BG helps us find out your justification for the skills you take
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:42:21 PM)
Like... why you have drive 3 and melee 3 and no other skills
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:42:59 PM)
motorcycle racing and fencing lessons from both dad and college... brawling isn't a part of fencing
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:43:35 PM)
*nods*
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:44:56 PM)
what i'm mainly concerned about is the math
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:45:05 PM)
*nods*
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:46:33 PM)
Alright here's where I am seeing points
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:47:58 PM)
Starting attributes 7/5/3 you have 4 / 5(with second 4) / 7.... so That's 10 points there Plus you would need to put a point in your social or physical to denote your secondary choice
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:04 PM)
mental being your primary
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:40 PM)
ok so if i made it cha 3 and manip 3 then i wouldn't have to spend from freebie
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:41 PM)
you have 16 / 6 / 11 for your abilities so that's 12 points there.
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:54 PM)
correct
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:09 PM)
you would spend freebies in your physical for those 5 points
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:14 PM)
right
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:29 PM)
so 5 from attributes
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:33 PM)
so if you moved the 4 to a 3 and put a 3 in charaisma you would have 5 in attributes
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:48 PM)
abilities... i'm not tracking
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:52 PM)
you have 12 points in abilities so that brings us to 17 points
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:16 PM)
You have 16 Talents
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:20 PM)
6 Skills
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:25 PM)
11 Knowledges
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:36 PM)
starting being 13/9/5
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:05 PM)
So each skill is 2 points 6 points from Talents, 2 points skills, 4 points knowledges = 12 points
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:27 PM)
my knowledges started at 9
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:40 PM)
i have 2 extra dots there
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:41 PM)
exactly and you have 11 points in there
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:46 PM)
so that's 4 i spent
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:49 PM)
yes that cost 4 points
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:58 PM)
so thats 9... sorry if i'm a bit slow in the head right now
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:16 PM)
3 dots in abilities 6 points
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:33 PM)
Okay here is the Math
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:35 PM)
1 dot in the other so 4 6 2 is 12.......
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:38 PM)
got it
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:46 PM)
so i spent 17 of the 15
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:48 PM)
i'm 2 over
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:00 PM)
Yes
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:04 PM)
your willpower is a 2?
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:05 PM)
so remove 1 dot and i'm straight
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:11 PM)
but your courage is a 3
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:13 PM)
i guess
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:19 PM)
you should have WP 3
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:23 PM)
i dunno much about virtues and willpower
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:36 PM)
Starting WP = Starting Courage
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:42 PM)
ok
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:47 PM)
Humanity = Self Control and Conscious
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:14 PM)
ok so i make cha 3 and manip 3 and remove 1 dot of something in abilities and my math is perfect?
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:30 PM)
besides the will thing
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:34 PM)
Numerically yes.
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:37 PM)
ok
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:43 PM)
and i'll take his advice on some stuff
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:48 PM)
like the etiquette
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:48 PM)
That doesn't mean I have any input on what gets approved with your stuff
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:50 PM)
it makes sense
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:21 PM)
ok thanks menthril... i'll move some dots around a bit to make him happy but i'll justify those that i think i should have
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:26 PM)
i appreciate your help
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:31 PM)
Alright
Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:37 PM)
glad I could help
Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:45 PM)
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Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:56:30 PM)
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