Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:50:38 PM)
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Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:50:43 PM)
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Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:50:47 PM)
Hello :)

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:51:00 PM)
i didnt see a place for a back story

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:51:15 PM)
Not on the sheet itself....

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:51:20 PM)
Ah

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:51:37 PM)
The forum area, under Backstory and Bluebooks, you make yourself a thread and place the backstory there.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:51:45 PM)
kk

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:52:15 PM)
I dont see that thread

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:53:42 PM)
Let me link you.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:53:49 PM)
kk

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:54:23 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:54:37 PM)
You can also see the area from the forum main index but that link will do you.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:54:53 PM)
You won't see other threads in there as it's player locked...you'll only see your own once you make it.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:55:24 PM)
STs can of course see everyones.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:55:33 PM)
It wont let me log in

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:55:47 PM)
Its poping up with a log in screen

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:55:49 PM)
Have registered to the forums?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:55:53 PM)
Yes

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:56:07 PM)
Then log in.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:56:16 PM)
Its says my Password is wrong

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:56:50 PM)
I know i signed up

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:56:56 PM)
and it says i didnt

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:56:56 PM)
Under what name?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:57:00 PM)
Brimstone

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:57:02 PM)
Got an Admin sort of on the horn.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:57:16 PM)
So lets see.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:57:47 PM)
kk im logged in

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:57:58 PM)
I had to go to the Regrestration email to do it

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:58:13 PM)
Yeah...

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:58:21 PM)
So OK then now that it's handled.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:58:28 PM)
Sorry

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:58:34 PM)
Yeah the e-mail part is to avoid the damned bots.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:23 PM)
Well now that your logged in...you place your background in a thread you create labled with your character name, tribe, auspice. And then place the backstory there.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:25 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:29 PM)
And it still wont let me see the darn page

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:39 PM)
You won't see threads in there.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:44 PM)
They are privacy locked.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:49 PM)
It wont even let me log on

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 10:59:51 PM)
You'll probably see an empty forum page.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:00:03 PM)
1 sec im restarting my Browser

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:00:05 PM)
(This user has left DigiChat) (IP = 74.104.7.69)

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:00:07 PM)
Did you follow that e-mail's instructions?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:00:47 PM)
(This user has entered Windseeker's Office) (IP = 74.104.7.69)

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:00:53 PM)
kk lest try this agian

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:01:08 PM)
Well why you do that I'll look at sheet.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:01:15 PM)
kk

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:01:55 PM)
Ok try that link agian please :)

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:02:22 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:02:43 PM)
Im logged and its asking mt to log in agian

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:02:50 PM)
to see the forums

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:03:21 PM)
And when i try my name and password are not regestered

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:03:22 PM)
Forums are seperate from overall chat login. You need to register to the forums seperately.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:04:05 PM)
Unfortunately the forums code isn't connected seemlessly to the site code.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:04:39 PM)
Ah kk

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:05:02 PM)
So register to the forums.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:05:13 PM)
kk registered

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:05:43 PM)
Excellent.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:05:51 PM)
Now go to http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15 and make your thread.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:05:53 PM)
LoL

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:06:03 PM)
Don't worry I'll walk you through the snags as best I can.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:06:12 PM)
I didnt know that lol

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:06:50 PM)
Do i just post new thread?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:07:45 PM)
Yes, name it with your PC name, tribe, auspice.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:07:49 PM)
kk

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:08:02 PM)
It looks blank to you because it's player privacy locked thats all.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:15:00 PM)
Looking over sheet still.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:15:15 PM)
Everything ok?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:16:55 PM)
You got a backstory to this? It might answer some of my questions.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:17:07 PM)
What questions?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:18:10 PM)
My back story is just a rough over view

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:18:23 PM)
Other wise it would be like 7 pages long

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:18:38 PM)
Even the overview helps.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:19:21 PM)
I need to move around a few points

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:19:31 PM)
Like i need at least one dont in streetwise lol

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:19:54 PM)
i just put one in

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:20:21 PM)
kk posted

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:22:35 PM)
I put to many points in to will power. it should only be a 6

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:22:49 PM)
OK sheet wise: Under attributes, you are short 1 pt on physicals.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:23:25 PM)
Doing sheets like this confuses me lol i lost track of points 3 times and had to start over

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:23:40 PM)
1 point in to Stam

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:23:41 PM)
Yeah it's a mess I think but we'll fix it one thing at a time.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:24:06 PM)
Its also been 4 year sence i created a Old world Char

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:24:29 PM)
ANd please stop editing your sheet.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:24:33 PM)
kk

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:24:37 PM)
I will move the points around.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:25:09 PM)
Sorry

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:25:27 PM)
Your merit...it's on our banned list.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:25:38 PM)
Well that sucks

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:25:45 PM)
4 pt right?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:25:53 PM)
Nope its a 5 point one

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:27:11 PM)
You are way overspent anyway....might be better just to cut the merit.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:28:15 PM)
You spend 22FB.....counting the merit it would be 27FB....you only get 15.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:28:32 PM)
Im just goig to start all over

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:01 PM)
I could cut this down for you it'll just take a bit of work between us.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:10 PM)
I have skype

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:14 PM)
You'd rather delete and start over?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:20 PM)
I don't like giving out my Skype.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:27 PM)
I spent 5 hours trying to make that char

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:35 PM)
So lets hash it out here.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:35 PM)
and i counted out the points

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:45 PM)
I shouldnt be over at all

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:29:57 PM)
It's way over.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:30:02 PM)
Inless there is some house rule about points i dont know about

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:30:07 PM)
No.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:30:12 PM)
U was told Base Char Creation

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:30:18 PM)
and 15 freebie points

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:30:23 PM)
I was told*

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:30:31 PM)
and thats what i did

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:31:39 PM)
Guy Freebies have costs. Attributes cost 5FB per pt, Abilities 2FB per pt, backgrounds/Rage/WP is 1, Gnosis is 2FB per pt.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:32:30 PM)
I didnt pout any points in to Attribtes

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:32:40 PM)
No what I have here is...

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:32:56 PM)
Dose everything noy start at 1?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:32:58 PM)
Not*

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:33:11 PM)
Do i have to but the frist doit?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:33:18 PM)
14/10/5 on attribute spread, so 8FB there.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:33:34 PM)
Im just going to start over

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:33:46 PM)
Backgrounds show 7 dots, from base 5....so 2FB there.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:33:53 PM)
Rage 4.....3FB there

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:33:56 PM)
Backropunds is 7

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:34:22 PM)
By core book backgrounds is 5....you have 7...so I assume 2 FBs spent there.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:34:34 PM)
Like i said im going to start all over

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:34:41 PM)
OK...delete this then?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:34:47 PM)
Thats what you want?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:34:50 PM)
Cause i didnt spen any points in to Attibrutes

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:34:57 PM)
No freebies went there

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:03 PM)
Let me recount....

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:05 PM)
It should be 5 phyical

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:12 PM)
3 social

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:19 PM)
and 7 mental

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:37 PM)
and abilitys should be Frist row 13

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:44 PM)
Attributes are fine, you were actually short there.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:35:50 PM)
I'm speaking of Abilities.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:13 PM)
14/ 10/ 5

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:18 PM)
I've counted three times.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:34 PM)
The back rounds where my mistake

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:38 PM)
OK.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:39 PM)
I thought it was 7

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:44 PM)
Thats a start.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:36:53 PM)
Let me break down what I see, please don't get upset.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:37:05 PM)
I wanted 4 rage

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:37:10 PM)
3 gnosis

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:37:15 PM)
and 5 wp

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:37:27 PM)
and is that merit on the baned list?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:37:59 PM)
Caus ei have really bad luck on the dice

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:38:59 PM)
7/5/3 Nothing spent, 14/10/5......4FBs in there, Backgrounds: 2FBs as is, Rage 4: 3FBs, Gnosis 3 (4FBs),. WP 8 (5FBs)

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:39:05 PM)
So...rechecking my math

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:39:47 PM)
18 FB over.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:39:56 PM)
Not as bad as I thought...but still up there.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:02 PM)
We can work with this though.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:13 PM)
So the Merit

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:19 PM)
Yes on the banned list.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:28 PM)
May i ask why?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:36 PM)
I took it cause im a crap rooler

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:38 PM)
Roller8

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:40:40 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:41:17 PM)
This is for merits/flaws http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&p=516#p516

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:41:27 PM)
i see it

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:41:28 PM)
The one before that is basic char creation.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:41:38 PM)
I didnt know there was a baned list

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:41:49 PM)
Well without the merit you are at 18FBs.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:42:01 PM)
Better just to leave the merit out of the equation at this point.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:42:09 PM)
Looks like

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:42:13 PM)
Unless you still want to scrap and start over....but thats alot of work.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:42:23 PM)
Almost less work just to work with me here.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:42:41 PM)
I dont see why that Merit is baned

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:43:09 PM)
Because what works great on TT, gets too abused in chats.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:43:19 PM)
Ah kk

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:44:07 PM)
Now some basic questions.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:44:12 PM)
Why a ragabash with rage 4?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:44:12 PM)
kk

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:44:33 PM)
Cause they still need to do stuff n combat

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:44:38 PM)
and haveing a 1 rage

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:44:42 PM)
is never a good idea

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:45:18 PM)
Thats only 3 Freebie points

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:45:43 PM)
Look....your backstory has no reasoning why this guy is so damned angry even for a ragabash. And wanting Rage for combat isn't good enough. If you want that much Rage why not just go Galliard?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:46:16 PM)
4 rage is not that angry

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:46:32 PM)
Yes for a ragabash it is angier than heck....you almost are up to Ahroun fury.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:46:50 PM)
It's high enough most humans can't deal with you due to the curse.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:47:01 PM)
Um what curse?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:47:22 PM)
the i cant get through the gauntlet and the wraths find me

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:47:32 PM)
When human WP is less than your Rage, they instinctually see you as dangerous and avoid you....

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:47:56 PM)
Is that a house rule? I have never heard of that before

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:05 PM)
In my 17 years of playing this game

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:35 PM)
p. 191 in core book.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:41 PM)
What core book

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:47 PM)
The WtA core book.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:49 PM)
3rd editon?

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:54 PM)
or second

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:48:56 PM)
Revised.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:49:20 PM)
Please stop argueing with me on fundamentals.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:49:40 PM)
You guys play diffrently that i have ever played in my entire life

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:49:58 PM)
Rage 2, I can see without question, rage 3-4 tells me theres been some major truama or something.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:50:12 PM)
kk 2 2

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:50:13 PM)
2*

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:50:17 PM)
So 2?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:50:19 PM)
OK

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:51:14 PM)
Cap on WP is 7 by creation rules.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:51:24 PM)
Just go with a 5 there

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:51:29 PM)
Wp...5?

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:51:31 PM)
OK

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:01 PM)
Keep WP at 6 and the sheet balances.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:04 PM)
:D

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:09 PM)
kk

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:17 PM)
Im sorry in not trying to be a dick

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:24 PM)
It's OK

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:29 PM)
I just am use to playing a diffrent way

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:37 PM)
Other question...why does a ragabash have a summoning ritual....

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:38 PM)
I have never see the curse rule used

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:52:53 PM)
We use it due to the multiple venues in chat.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:53:11 PM)
To summon Kin fetches and Jaglings to send messages

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:53:13 PM)
Not that a ragabash can't...it's just a very theurgy oriented ritual.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:53:24 PM)
He is a strider he might now see another Garou for weeks

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:53:29 PM)
Not see*

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:53:55 PM)
Good reasoning I'll let you keep it.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:54:06 PM)
See i know my Stuff lool

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:54:13 PM)
Im just very confused

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:55:10 PM)
OK the rest looks fine now.

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:55:19 PM)
You overall have a very good spread for a ragabash....

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:55:34 PM)
Agian. Sorry for being such a pain. And thank you :)

Windseeker (Feb 16, 2011 11:55:36 PM)
The cuts to rage and WP balanced the sheet.

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:55:57 PM)
I want to take 1 merit and 1 flaw if i could

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:56:02 PM)
each one pointers

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:57:10 PM)
Multi Morph Merit and the Low self Image Flaw

Eric Sullivan (Feb 16, 2011 11:57:25 PM)
That leaves me with one point