Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:40:08 AM)
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Magnus T. Hollowhart Esq. (Jan 12, 2011 12:40:09 AM)
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Serendipity Jones (Jan 12, 2011 12:40:13 AM)
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Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 12:40:14 AM)
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Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:40:35 AM)
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Elora Sundstrom (Jan 12, 2011 12:41:19 AM)
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Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:41:48 AM)
Hello folks, what seems to be happening? I'll ask we go in order of alphabetical, and that we all behave respectfully. Direct your comments to me, and leave out any editorializing. Just the facts as you see them. Remember this is a game, and I want us to have fun. Delan, if you'll start?
Lior Axel (Jan 12, 2011 12:42:16 AM)
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Lior Axel (Jan 12, 2011 12:42:33 AM)
I didn't get away from Skype soon enough
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:42:55 AM)
Okay, we were all chilling after a battle down below the Aslyum, and Nez and Albel were getting into it. Nezzars been insulting Albel for days now. So he tells Albel he's not afraid of him and Albel tells him to gtfo with BBB.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:43:32 AM)
and rolled 7 succ btw...which Nezzar says breaks their oath, which I don't agree with cause telling him to gtfo doesn't hurt him...it's a much better alternative than gutting him.
Elora Sundstrom (Jan 12, 2011 12:43:32 AM)
I know nothing.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:44:08 AM)
he never rolled to resist, just said ooc all he had to do was spend a wp, which is not how the book reads
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:44:55 AM)
is that the whole of the way you see it, Delan?
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:45:05 AM)
and as he got up and seemed to want to start combat right there, I asked to be locked for a st, yes
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:46:27 AM)
alright.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:46:41 AM)
Elora says she doesn't know anything involved. can anyone else tell me if she was there?
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:46:51 AM)
if not, Elora, will you be a witness for the moment?
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:46:58 AM)
your chat wide msg said "all fae"
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:47:04 AM)
not just fae involved in the scene
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:47:23 AM)
just making sure.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:47:31 AM)
I do try to make my proceedings fair.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:47:39 AM)
Alright, Lior, were you present?
Lior Axel (Jan 12, 2011 12:48:26 AM)
I wasn't present, though I can comment on the 'I can just spend a WP" comment, as Nezz intimidated me last night and apparently I couldn't roll WP, fail, and then spend a WP to act anyhow
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:49:00 AM)
I...see.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:49:08 AM)
please summarize your experiences, Lior.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:49:09 AM)
but you failed a wp roll to save then tried to spend a wp.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:49:10 AM)
thats not the same
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:49:18 AM)
Nezzar
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:49:27 AM)
it is not your turn. I promise you you will have full chance to respond and explain.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:51:47 AM)
(afk a few, I shall be about though)
Lior Axel (Jan 12, 2011 12:51:48 AM)
We were playing, ended up throwing insults, and when that didn't go as he wanted, he rolled intimidation with a spent WP [not sure why he needed to spend WP, but eh]. I rolled WP to resist, failed that but had always been told that if you're cowed you can still spend a WP per turn you take an action. I declared spending WP and put it in the DR, then rolled to throw a bottle. He declared I could neither spend the WP after the failure, nor attack when frightened.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 12:53:03 AM)
(back)
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:13 AM)
alright.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:23 AM)
Magnus yo're just here as a witness, unless you have another skin you were there as?
Magnus T. Hollowhart Esq. (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:30 AM)
Witness!
Magnus T. Hollowhart Esq. (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:32 AM)
Testify!
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:40 AM)
Nezzar, your take on things?
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:53 AM)
del has talked alot of trash to nez lately, embarrassed him on the ship in front of others, so nez gave him a casual slap to the back of the head, albel and nez go back and forth alot, didnt think albel was gona go nuts over it.. tell nez he'll fuck him up.. you know nez.. he's not going to just be told that... so he told albel he wasnt afraid of him... albel using his birthright against nez does go against the oath and the desc of BBB does not say one cannot spend a wp to negate the effect. now on the issue of last night with lior.. the spending WP was advers's call not mine, i had to re-read wp to see what adver was talking about,.. but when one is intimidated one doesnt usually able to attack the intimidator... albel and I had no inits rolled.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:54:53 AM)
you may respond with YOUR interpretation of things, but do not respond directly to others, just tell ME what you think.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 12:56:07 AM)
BBB being a form of intimidation which can be negated with wp spent if you dont roll first and fail or botch.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:56:22 AM)
alright.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:56:25 AM)
Octavian, were you present?
Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 12:56:32 AM)
myup
Elora Sundstrom (Jan 12, 2011 12:57:16 AM)
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Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 12:58:14 AM)
share with me your perspective on things.
Leslie Neau (Jan 12, 2011 12:59:25 AM)
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Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 12:59:58 AM)
I saw the use of a poorly written power. I don't know how BBB works here, but my reading of it says that Redcaps get a bonus to Intimidate rolls, and against chimera their intimidation has special effects. So, from what I saw, A person got seven successes on an intimidate roll against another, an argument about the outcome happened, and things were frozen to be discussed.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:01:38 AM)
thank you.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:01:42 AM)
Serendipity?
Serendipity Jones (Jan 12, 2011 1:04:52 AM)
Um.. Well, Ser, Oct, Albel, and Nezz were sitting around talking, Nezz reached over and whapped Albel upside the head, Albel said something to the effect of needing to cut it out and as he said GTFO and asked Nezz for his WP, rolled his intim and posted the suxx (7). At the same time Nezz also put in an IC post that he stood up and pulled his sword on Albel. When the intim post went up that's when the mention of freezing came up and all of that. As far as how WP works, in my history and experience with the BBB birthright, you can't completely negate the roll, you have to spend WP /every round/ if you want to act against it, basically forcing yourself through the panic. One WP popping won't make everything hunky dorey, but I'm all of an hour and a half old and don't know if there's a different way of doing things here.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:06:08 AM)
alright. Thank you all for being polite and honest with me so far. I want you all tot ake a moment to remember that this is a game, and we are here to have fun -together-. sometimes this fun involves conflict, I'm not naive enough to think otherwise. But remember that the first goal is fun, relaxation, and cooperation in building a world we can all enjoy.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:06:13 AM)
does anyone disagree with this?
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:06:22 AM)
nope, sounds right
Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 1:06:27 AM)
nope
Serendipity Jones (Jan 12, 2011 1:06:30 AM)
Nope. What he said
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:07:08 AM)
Nezz, lior?
Lior Axel (Jan 12, 2011 1:07:38 AM)
That sounds about right.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:07:55 AM)
nods .. sory.. i figured i'd post if i did disagree ..btu since i dont i didnt.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:08:36 AM)
ok, just making sure.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:11:11 AM)
Alright. I'm not going to rule on this tongiht, because it is a complicated issue. I fully own I am not fully familiar with all the changeling rules. I want to run this by Adversarius who is more familiar with the rules than I am. I will be pulling the logs of this room to do this.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:11:32 AM)
I will ask one thing. that you all consider that an argument happened, and that instead of fighting most of you did what friends always do, they stormed out and went to cool off.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:11:39 AM)
if that happened, we don't have to resolve to combat.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:12:04 AM)
if you insist your characters would have resolved to combat, you are all scenelokced until Adversarius and I can examine the situation and make a ruling,a nd then oversee the fight.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:12:19 AM)
I'm not looking for combat
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:12:20 AM)
for tonight, you will not be locked, but do not rush to jump back into the scene until an ST is present.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:12:57 AM)
well, as a sword was drawn on me, not vice versa, it's on Nezzar
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:13:13 AM)
nez has no intention of fighting albel.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:13:39 AM)
well, you telling me in pms that you and your chimera could take him out doesn't really inspire faith in that comment dude
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:13:56 AM)
well you told me that albel could gut nez
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:13:59 AM)
in pms
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:09 AM)
I said he was avoiding gutting anyone by using BBB
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:25 AM)
cause it was a much nicer redcap friendly alternative
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:26 AM)
he wasnt avoiding gutting anyone as he wouldnt of succeeded in said gutting
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:39 AM)
guys.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:45 AM)
we are NOT going to posture at eachother.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:47 AM)
ic is one thing.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:14:59 AM)
but I will tolerate ZERO ooc conflict.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:15:14 AM)
it is neither welcome nor tolerated on my venue. we are here to relax and have fun, NOT to argue.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:15:18 AM)
I never said he would or wouldn't succeed, but even not taking a swing and hitting intimidate was his way to not resolve to combat.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:15:34 AM)
you're also both ignoring my ruling about only speaking to ME, not arguing with eachother.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:15:38 AM)
this does not make me kindly disposed.
Omenizer PM for Atn (Jan 12, 2011 1:15:55 AM)
I might suggest you listen to Alle on this one.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:16:15 AM)
well, ic, albel wouldn't back down, it's against his legacy to back down from a challenge.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:16:40 AM)
so it's not really up to me, I'll go whichever way is needed by what happens ic
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:17:22 AM)
at this pt.. its 1am.. my tolerance for anything right now is exactly zero because i am very tired.. in terms of this whole issue.. you know if it will make it smiple to say albel succeeded, nez slinks away for a very very long time and it all ends clean cut, i'm fine with that.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:18:25 AM)
For the time being, I am not ruling on the issue. I'm afraid everyone involved in the scene is scenelocked until such time as this can be resolved. given Adversarius' schedule, this will likely be thursday.
Omenizer PM for Atn (Jan 12, 2011 1:18:26 AM)
Good form. -nods-
Omenizer PM for Atn (Jan 12, 2011 1:18:38 AM)
To Nezz.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:18:46 AM)
i thought you said we werent scene locked a moment ago
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:18:48 AM)
Unless Albel is content to accept Nezz' offer there. I will STILL have the scene resolved.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:19:09 AM)
yeah thats the way I was hoping to go when I rolled the intim check in the first place.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:19:10 AM)
but if Albel accepts Nezzar's offer, we'll let it stand as is, then issue an official ruling on the rules questions.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:19:14 AM)
mind you though nez slinkging off will end the motely.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:19:55 AM)
he will see albel's aact as a truely hostile one toward him
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:20:00 AM)
Alright, no scene locks. I'm sorry for being short with folks, I just wanted to nip any ooc arguments in the bud. this is a friendly chat, and I will maintain it as such. Even if you hate me, I don't want argumetns among my players.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:20:15 AM)
Is everyone satisfied with the ruling as is?
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:20:25 AM)
yep
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:21:14 AM)
can anoyone point out something I have missed, or an area I may be being unfair that Iw as unaware of? I do not want to railroad anyone.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:21:39 AM)
nah
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:21:45 AM)
It'd be nice if the oaths were taken off our sheets.
Serendipity Jones (Jan 12, 2011 1:22:08 AM)
Newp
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:22:51 AM)
its not like it ment anything anyway.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:23:09 AM)
I'll make sure. Omen, just for fairness sake, can you make a Logs request for this room to the Admins?
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:23:13 AM)
as of this time?
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:23:24 AM)
forward me a copy of it.
Catarina Brito (Jan 12, 2011 1:24:05 AM)
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Omenizer PM for Atn (Jan 12, 2011 1:25:10 AM)
Of course.
Catarina Brito (Jan 12, 2011 1:29:42 AM)
So quiet!
Magnus T. Hollowhart Esq. (Jan 12, 2011 1:29:55 AM)
Indeed.
Serendipity Jones (Jan 12, 2011 1:30:05 AM)
We're all plotting dastardly things
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:30:43 AM)
guilty
Omenizer PM for Atn (Jan 12, 2011 1:30:58 AM)
I -am- dastardly things... >.>
Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 1:30:59 AM)
Umm..Sidhe don't plot?
Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:03 AM)
>.>
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:06 AM)
they just look pretty?
Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:10 AM)
'zactly
Magnus T. Hollowhart Esq. (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:18 AM)
Hmmmm.
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:20 AM)
well guess you should start plotting Oct...you aren't doing the look pretty thing that well ;)
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Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:28 AM)
dimmit!
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:47 AM)
we free to go gory?
Catarina Brito (Jan 12, 2011 1:31:48 AM)
Yeeeeah, sorry octavian
Serendipity Jones (Jan 12, 2011 1:32:17 AM)
*chuckles*
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:32:20 AM)
yeah. again, I encourage people to try to meet privately and work thigns out oocly if they can, but I will not force any resolutions. have a good night, and again thanks to everyone who has elected to join in my venue
Octavian Vanderaa (Jan 12, 2011 1:32:39 AM)
right, back to the boat!
Delan ‘Albel’ Marshall (Jan 12, 2011 1:33:01 AM)
*lazily waits for the sidhe to make it*
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Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:36:12 AM)
I beg everyone's indulgence
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:36:16 AM)
but I really have to log.
Allegory (Jan 12, 2011 1:36:25 AM)
this migraine is making even having my eyes open very painful.
Nezzar Lorkin (Jan 12, 2011 1:36:25 AM)
night G money.
Omenizer PM for Atn (Jan 12, 2011 1:36:36 AM)
Later Alley. ^_^
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