Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:53:43 PM)
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Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:54:09 PM)
Hi. I just got your FPM, plus some secondhand word of your conversation with Zhaed.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:54:45 PM)
yep. the short version is I am tired of waiting for that story line to either close or progress so I can actually play my character.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:54:54 PM)
I'm not sure how we missed each other, but I was in the OOC room for 4 hours last Thursday, and I didn't see any of your pack.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:55:20 PM)
we only waited about an hour...
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:55:45 PM)
I was there about 7:30 to 11:30 EST. I didn't expect you to be on earlier than that, due to Matt's schedule and you being on Pacific time...
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:55:55 PM)
anyway. I am starting to feel that even that follow up scene as with the ones prior would have gone stagnent and we would still be doing nothing at all.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:56:56 PM)
i have to admit, I am a bit disapointed at the lack of information or ideas where to continue in the FPM I sent that took over a week to get back.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:57:27 PM)
I expect at least a moderate level of proactivity to get a SL done. When you didn't show up for the scene, I expected some kind of followup to reschedule. I'm not here to hound you to get in touch with me.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:57:55 PM)
i requested the follow up in the fpm that was ignored for a week
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:58:10 PM)
That was sent before our scheduled scene. Which you missed.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:58:11 PM)
and when I log on, I didn't see you in blues to say "hey, we need to reschedule"
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:58:20 PM)
that you missed as well.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:58:41 PM)
I was there. Four hours. The logs will show that. But...i don't hang out in the OOC for peole to chat. That's not my style. FPMs are there for a reason.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:58:43 PM)
if you recall your fpm didn't state a time just "we will do it tomorrow"
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:58:54 PM)
they are there to not be read for a week
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 12:59:32 PM)
i can prove without a shadow of a doubt that both me and Krys logged in and waited and there was no you.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 12:59:53 PM)
Which must hav ehappened before 7 PM EST, when we'd been regularly starting at 10 PM per your request.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:00:27 PM)
So that being said.... I would like to find a way to either complete the scene, progress the scene, resolve the scene, or drop and retcon the scene as you have managed to make me completely unplayable
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:01:24 PM)
However. You know, it's really beside the point now. You and your colleagues are clearly miserable, have no desire to meet me halfway on this, and I am frankly tired of having these OOC conversations with you because I am not making you happy. I will talk to Ghostlin about a way to end the SL without any further scenes. There will be no retconning.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:01:50 PM)
I'm not miserable. I just want something to happen.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:02:09 PM)
do you know what it feels like to log in, see all the other garou in the sept in a scene and me being unable to play at all?
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:02:13 PM)
I need you to do things to make something happen.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:02:34 PM)
what do you need us to do? We've done it. We've asked for it, and we've fpm'd it.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:02:37 PM)
Trolling the Internet for gossip about the band is not exactly the sort of action that's going to push the drama forward.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:02:51 PM)
it is something since we all feel there is no direction at all.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:02:59 PM)
the next step is questing stones and bullets.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:03:33 PM)
As you've requested, I'm going to talk to Ghostlin about ending the scene in some way to allow you to return to your regularly scheduled ICness without any further need for us to have scenes which will only disappoint you.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:04:00 PM)
However, I need his input on this, since he's been working with me on the SL and it ties in with his.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:04:07 PM)
complete with the warder saying we can be back at the sept? Since that is part of huge problem.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:04:23 PM)
Obviously.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:05:34 PM)
Thank you. That was the chief concern. My problem with it as it is is I can't play at all. being wanted by the cops (even after changing my apperance) and being banned from the sept for rending the veil (even after changing my apperance) makes for a lot of sitting in the ooc room while everyone goes and has fun.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:06:35 PM)
Changing your appearance doesn't change that your characters acted really, really stupidly. You weren't banned because you continued to be a threat to the veil, you were banned *for being stupid*.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:07:26 PM)
i was banned for "rending the veil" or threatening the veil or whatever bullshit reason.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:07:51 PM)
Yes. And you didn't fix it. Changing your appearance didn't actually fix the problem.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:08:09 PM)
yes we did... or tried to. for the past month.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:08:15 PM)
But. Again. I'm going to stop. Because there is no point to continuing this conversation. I will get back to you as soon as I've been able to speak to Ghostlin.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:08:38 PM)
ok thank you for your time and let me know when I will be actually able to enjoy the game and the chat.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:08:43 PM)
have a good day Golden.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:09:04 PM)
That passive aggressive bullshit isn't helping.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:09:12 PM)
I am not being passive agressive.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:09:26 PM)
I am wishing you well and since I can't play I would like you to let me know when I can again.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:10:40 PM)
Very well.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:11:18 PM)
like I said, my main concern is the ability not to play. I don't mind continuing this SL as a back burning story, but not being able to go either IC (since I'm wanted) and can't go to the sept (since we are banned) that happers that a bit.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:11:41 PM)
You are still wanted, but your appearance is changed...so you're very unlikely to be arrested. I'm not sure why you think you can't go IC away from the sept.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:12:02 PM)
since I was told by the staff that I couldn't go out in public since I was wanted.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:12:11 PM)
"the cops will be looking for you"
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:12:31 PM)
Yes. They will be looking for you. If you changed your appearance, you won't be found, either.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:12:39 PM)
Who told you that you couldn't go out in public?
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:13:36 PM)
I don't recall off hand. it was a while ago. after I changed my apperance. And since then its been brought to me over and over that I was kicked out for threatening the veil. but if the cops don't have my current description then there is no veil threat.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:15:12 PM)
Well, if you can't recall, I don't know what to say. Once you changed your appearance, I rather expected you to go IC, just not at the sept. And yes, while you changed your appearance, you personally aren't risking the veil by being arrested, but the retarded antics your pack engaged in don't magically disappear. The expectation of the Warder was that you'd fix the risk you created. I don't think you guys understand just how much you put the whole Caern at risk.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:15:49 PM)
I guess we don't
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:16:17 PM)
since retarded or not it was a good plan. people up to and including the us military use similar tactics to convince people to join or defect.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:17:26 PM)
It was not, in any way, shape or form, a good plan. You had a Kinfolk who had been beaten and raped by Garou...and then you had another Garou threaten to rape her. She's not retarded. She knows who you all are. Krystal mock-beating Ducky to seem like a "good guy" doesn't work when she already *knows you are all bad guys*.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:17:55 PM)
well then the only option is a bullet for each of them.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:18:04 PM)
No shit. That's what you brought it to.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:18:26 PM)
no we were trying to bring them around to realize we aren't all bad guys.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:18:39 PM)
you just fail to allow it to do that. So now we have no choice.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:19:07 PM)
Because it doesn't work like that. One incidence of one single Garou protecting the Kin against a Garou who just typifies their experiences doesn't magically make her trust you.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:19:09 PM)
If you'd like I'll make the rolls now, and we can kill them all. bada bing bada boom. problem solved.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:19:56 PM)
You had some Kinfolk who were mistrustful of Garou, feeling out some local Kinfolk to see if maybe they shouldn't be mistrustful anymore, and your pack barged in, threatened them, broke into their home, and have generally been acting like overzealous dicks...and so you turned them right to the enemy. No. No, you can't just make those rolls. Because you lit a match to a fire.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:20:14 PM)
we are a pack of boar
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:20:24 PM)
Yep.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:20:26 PM)
we were called into the scene since they were threatening one of our kin.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:20:56 PM)
They never threatened Nail in any way, shape or form. I'm not criticizing your roleplay. But I'm telling you that actions have consequences.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:21:08 PM)
if you didn't want us to RP out how a war pack of boar you shouldn't have allowed us into the scene.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:21:25 PM)
and Nail said they were threatening him in the test to Krys, and they had a gun with silver bullets.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:23:21 PM)
Like I said: I'm fine with how you're acting IC so far as your character personalities go. I don't see any problem. You're not RPing badly. I've never suggested that. I'm saying that what you did has consequences. Being a "child of boar" isn't an excuse or a reason for you to get off the hook when you do rush in, like a boar, and cause trouble.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:23:48 PM)
Yes, well, Nail panicked because he thought they were skindancers. Which wasn't the case.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:23:53 PM)
so anyway. we can argue how it played out and all that until both of us are frustrated and blue in the face. but I know you are doing your best, and you feel that all we did was be dicks, retards, and start a fire. but instead of further aggrivating both of us, I am simply going to wish you a good day again and reitterate my request to let me know when I can go IC and to the sept again.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:24:03 PM)
I will be in touch.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:24:11 PM)
thank you again and have a good day.
Golden (Aug 26, 2010 1:24:14 PM)
You too.
Douglas Flannagan (Aug 26, 2010 1:24:18 PM)
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