Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:44:31 PM)
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Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 7:47:07 PM)
*scowls at the door, waiting*
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:47:43 PM)
* she pulls up on her bike and stope the bike and looks up at the house and let's out a low whsitle* Wow
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:49:21 PM)
* she hops off her bike and lays her helmet on the seat and looks around and reaches the door and knocks on it feeling a bit wired*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 7:50:59 PM)
Hey. You're late. *hmphs* No beer in the house. Want a soda?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:51:57 PM)
* she looks a bit confused at Andy* Well hello to you
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 7:52:42 PM)
C'mon in, C'mon in...How was the ride?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:53:18 PM)
* she steps inside and nods* Ride was good * she looks a little wide eyed looking at the inside of the house* My god..this place is just ....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 7:54:03 PM)
Yeah, we got a few people with bucks in the pack. Thank Gaia, cause I couldn't swing this on what you pay me.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:54:32 PM)
* blinks * I guess.....yeah ..we llyou don't have to stay ya know
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 7:55:22 PM)
Yeah I do. *mutters* C'mon, koi's this way.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:56:08 PM)
* she rolls her yes a bit* Well then don't complain..not like I'm fucking rolling in the dough myself...ya know...romen and ketchiup crackers is not the best dinner
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 7:58:08 PM)
If you didn't drink so much booze...this way. *heads for the back porch* Careful of the couch, Tristan and his wife've been...active.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 7:59:21 PM)
Don't start on me about my booze....I drink cuz...never mind.....I already had all this booze when I moved out here....and I was doing good....* she follows* So Tristan's getting some...about time
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:03:36 PM)
You drink cause....I dunno. *flips her a soda* Need to get ~laid~ among other things. *pauses* What the hel;l was I gonna say?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:05:09 PM)
*she scowls * What the fuck....you ask me here for what? So you can be all judgemental without knowing what's going on...Jesus ...maybe I should just leave so you can go out and get laid yourself...and at this point I don't care what you have to say....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:06:37 PM)
*points* Koi! It's a meditative calming place. Then ~maybe~ we can have a rational conversation without you going all 80 shades of weird on me. I'll grill something.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:07:38 PM)
Fine! ...I'm here to see the pond you keep going on and on about * she stomps over towards it* Me going wierd? you're the one who's changed lately....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:09:31 PM)
Like hell! You want teriyaki on your grilled?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:10:44 PM)
Like hell my ass...you're all being wierd lately...since I got attacked.....you keep watching me and * she pauses* Yes that would be nice thank you ....and acting like I don't know
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:14:14 PM)
I am ~not~ being weird! You're my responsibility, and shit. Not my damn fault I choked on the one thing and you took a 4-day nap. What kinda dressing?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:16:39 PM)
You are being wierd dam it !....And we've been throught his ..you didn't know this was gonna happen.....I don't blame you!......Ass! uhhh I don't care whatever you got would be nice .....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:20:04 PM)
Am not! *coming out with a large salad plate doused with blue cheese and dressing, sitting on the bench*
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:20:55 PM)
Are too!.....what is going on in that head of yours lately?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 8:22:30 PM)
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Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:22:33 PM)
Am not. Whatcha mean what's going on in my head?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 8:22:42 PM)
*he limped in the door to the house*
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:23:41 PM)
You are!.....Your snapping at me ...insulting my dates.....and then your nice to me...you bring me doughnut this morning with my favorite sprinkle after being as ass to me last night
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:25:34 PM)
You called my last 5 dates...what was it again?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:26:32 PM)
Crotch rot...and I bet they all have it...I can't help it if you have such low standards * she folds her amrs over her chest*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:26:40 PM)
And I brought you donuts because you were gonna need them after that hangover you were working on. Eat.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:27:26 PM)
So what if I was working on a hangover...it's my business what I'm drinking for...not like you give a shit....* she smiles and looks down at the food* Oh wow ...it looks good ..thanks
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:31:19 PM)
I do, but you just grunt and tell me to go crawl amongst the crabs. It's grilled tofu squares in teriyaki sauce, salad and ranch dressing. *nods* Say hi to the koi.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:34:06 PM)
You never even asked me what was wrong last night...you jus t scoweld at me and watched me.....* she looks to the Koi* There beautiful....this place is nice * she gets her plate and starts to eat* thanks for dinner..........and I only tell you that becuase you keep throwing it in my face you got laid the night before when I've shown no intrest in your sex life....you come in bragging about it....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:37:38 PM)
Because you're totally closing yourself off. I'm generally patient but at a certain point, even I get gripy. That one's Yakko, there's Wakko, and Dot. And those two over there are Ren and Stimpy. And I don't brag, but you just give me the trademarked DeathGlare and grunt. I just try to cheer you up.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:39:48 PM)
I don't need anyone......I've been taking care of myself fine.....and yes you do brag!...you come in all struting and smirking and saying who's the man.....and then as I'm opening you proceed to tell me all about the nasty ass hoochie momma who spead her legs for you.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:41:24 PM)
I do ~not~! When have I ever told you anything you never asked about?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:42:54 PM)
Look Andy ...I know your a great looking guy...nice bod ...okay I get it.....any girl would fall for you easily cuz your a real charmer and really easy to talk to...I get it okay...just stop trying to prove to me you're all this ..I already know.and...yes you do! you tell me the day after...every time* she scowls and sets the plate down next to her *
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:44:36 PM)
*Looks curiously* I don't have anything to prove. And it's not my fault I'm in demand.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:45:49 PM)
* she shakes her head* This is what I'm talking about....yes you do feel like you have to sell yourself to me and everyone in the world or something....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:47:04 PM)
No, I do not. Because that would indicate some deepseated issues.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:47:52 PM)
Andy...you have so many issues I wouldn't even know when to start.....and what is it with you insulting my dates?...Everytime I go out your scowling
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:48:53 PM)
Name one?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:49:38 PM)
You are insecure for starters
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:49:52 PM)
Inse-whatwhat?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:49:55 PM)
You are delusional and ego tistical for another
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:50:14 PM)
With a small hint of minty flavor
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:50:44 PM)
I threw a couple mint leaves in the salad.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:51:32 PM)
Nice.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:53:00 PM)
Thank you. And I'm a Fostern Garou, I'm allowed a touch of ego. But I'm not delusional.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:53:46 PM)
Bah fostern means crap in the real world....and example...we kiss ..you say you hate it...everything okay...I agree and you flip out
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:54:42 PM)
Oh and you liked it?
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 8:55:10 PM)
And I did not flip out, you flipped out.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 8:56:57 PM)
I did not flip out....I told you I didn't need a babysitter...cuz I knew you didn't want to do it...so I let you off the hook...you even said you didn't want to....and then you got pissed at me cuz I wasn't all weak and need y like all your other girlfirneds so I offened you r male ego!
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:00:25 PM)
I was not pissed because you weren't weak or needy, and stop avoiding the question. You have deep-seated intimacy issues over there.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:01:20 PM)
I'm not avoiding anything you are.....and yeah I have issues...cuz you're trying to get close and if I let you you're just gonna run like a bitch when things get too close
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:04:16 PM)
I am ~not~ tying to get to close, I'm trying to make sure you stay healthy so you can look your dates in the eye and not yak when they finally admit that they've been so far in the closet that Aslan borrows the hedge trimmers. And nice dodge.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:05:03 PM)
* she groans* See that's what I'm talking about...... and I am not dodging anything other then a broekn heart
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:05:07 PM)
broken
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:07:10 PM)
What? It's not my fault your gaydar's broken.
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:07:23 PM)
And what the hell are you talking about broken heart?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:07:45 PM)
* she scowls* At least I'm not the only one dodging things
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:12:00 PM)
Oh, fine. What are you trying to prove?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:16:31 PM)
Fine......I'm not trying to prove anyhting
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:17:24 PM)
Okay. You are.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:17:45 PM)
Okay. WHat do you think mr ..head shrinker
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:20:04 PM)
I think you're crazy shit so you feel empowered and in control. And the idea that you might need someone scares you to death so much that even the remotest hint of permanence of attachment sends you into a spasm. Oh, and you're projecting a lot.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:22:13 PM)
* listens and nods* Close....I have a death wish at times...cuz sometimes living in the world sucks....secondly I don't want to get close to someone due to history repeating itself.......nice try Doc
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:23:28 PM)
Stop having a death wish, dammit!
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:23:58 PM)
Why does it matter to you if I do.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:25:49 PM)
Because.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:27:40 PM)
* she softly sighs and gets up and start to walk around the pond*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:28:05 PM)
Try not to scare Ren, he's skittish.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:28:53 PM)
Why do you ask question you don't want answers to * she looks down at the Koi*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:29:22 PM)
What?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:30:24 PM)
* she smirks* You heard me
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:30:40 PM)
Answer the question.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:31:51 PM)
What's the question? * she slides her hands into her pockets as she stands across the pond and Andy*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:32:17 PM)
Whatever question I asked that I don't want the answer to.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:34:07 PM)
* she chukles and shakes her head* How about the kiss for starters
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:35:28 PM)
The coffee didn't work.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:36:07 PM)
* she blinks* ...not that one......the one after that
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:36:44 PM)
The one where you were like, wrapping yourself around me?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:37:02 PM)
* she shruggs* if you say so....well?
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:37:27 PM)
Well what? This is not Socratic questioning here.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:37:44 PM)
Admit how you really feel about it idiot!
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:39:27 PM)
*looks around* It was nice.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:39:55 PM)
* she scowls* Nice?....nice? just say it...what is so worng with telling me
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:43:06 PM)
Because you're my boss and I'm your bodyguard. There's...like, that thing. The thing. Seperation. You know. And you're ~just~ as bad.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:46:43 PM)
Andy* she comes back over and sits next to him* Let's get things straight.....I am not going to force you into any kind of relationship with me.....I know your not ready for anything like that......I do have feelings for you...your my best friend....but I also know I will try to force anything it will only lead me with a broken heart becuase you will bolt.....it's what you do.....Your not ready for what I want us to be....and yes the kiss was....toe curling
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:49:33 PM)
*points* Hah! I ~knew~ it!
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:50:33 PM)
* she blinks and punshes him and gets up* You ass hole! * she stroms away from him*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:51:44 PM)
You have feelings and you're ~just~ starting to admit it. What? I think we've made a breakthrough here.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:52:47 PM)
* she yells back at him* I have always had feelings you jackass...to bad you don't have any yourself......
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 9:53:15 PM)
I ~do~ have them. Why else would I be screaming at you goddamnit!?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 9:54:14 PM)
* she stops and looks at him* Then admit how you feel...pour your self out to me like I just did to you.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:01:25 PM)
*scowls* You tweak my need to be protective and...i dunno what the fuck...nurturing? No, wrong word. Something like nurturing but not. And you need to stop doing it, whatever the hell it is! So now...what? Dessert?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:03:58 PM)
* she shakes her head* I'm not doing anything...it's just natural what your feeling......it goes back to your wolf side.....Kin and Garou have this deep connection.....why do you think they end up being drawn to one another and eventually mating..... can't you just tell me how you feel? What are you afriad of?
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:05:29 PM)
Nothing. Weasel's children fear nothing. Not monogamy, not clingy psychowannabehosebeast kin, not marriage, and especially not yu. *nods*
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:06:18 PM)
Andy...just say it !.......Show me your not afraid....cuz weasel...he knows inside you and he's gonna know your afraid.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:07:27 PM)
Say what? That you want Jello with whipped cream?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:07:55 PM)
You know what I want you to say.......
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:09:42 PM)
That I like you and you're irrationally trying to maintain the alpha?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:10:19 PM)
Okay...so you have feelings for me.....was that so hard to say? ...and yes jello would be lovely
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:12:08 PM)
Apparently.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:13:37 PM)
Yes apparently so.......so what do you think is gonna happen now that you've admitited your madly in love with me? * makes a dramtci motion with her hand on her forehead and her hand over her heart* You can't live with out me
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:16:26 PM)
You and lacie can plan my shackling. I'm not gonna do what my old man did, okay? I mean he knew mom was the one and he ran for four years because he didn't think mom could deal with him. Cherry or lemon?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:20:21 PM)
* she chukles* Andy...I'm as ready as you are to get mated.....I don't want to be your mate right now.......Umm cherry please.....When your ready we'll handle that bridge when we reach if ...or if we do....I mean who's to say that you might not find someone you want to be mated with that's not me down the road....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:21:39 PM)
Monogamy's a construct of The Man.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:24:42 PM)
Monogamy is natural..it's what people do when they love each other.....they want to be together...they only want to be with that one person..it'll happen to you Andy......it happened to your parents...they were together until your dad buckled and ran when the first big repsonsibility came to the door.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:28:51 PM)
Well, for 6 months. Then I came along, and then Dad came back with his third serious boyfriend. Mom threw shit at him, they hollered a lot, and then they put me in front of the TV to watch Ren and Stimpy while they spent the weekend making up and having a discussion about the course of things. Monogamy hasn't happened since my great-grandparents.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:33:20 PM)
But Andy....you will have a relationship that isn't your parents...that's what worked for them...you need to find what works for you and stop hiding behind your parents.....I don't know if you've been hurt in the past ...but when someone is afraid to commit to one person....there afraid of getting hurt......
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:34:23 PM)
All I know is that my reason......I gave my heart to someone and I got hurt...bad...I don't want it to happen again
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:37:31 PM)
I grew up in LA? Seriously, people got married and divorced so often half my graduating class was interrelated through their parents marrying each other and divorcing each other. Knew one girl, her mom would trade in husbands with her cars. Y'know, lease a new car, marry a new guy. Trade in the car, get a new guy.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:39:14 PM)
I grew up in chicago....the same atmosphere.....and even after what I've been through I'm still wiling to beleive there is someone out there for me I can share a life with
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:40:43 PM)
Then you understand why I have no desire to buy into that rat race.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:41:13 PM)
*he looked over the mug of coffee he'd had, gaia only knew how long he'd been standing in that yard*
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:42:17 PM)
No I don't....You are letting your fears keep you from something that could be wonderful....but as much as you want to you can't stop falling in love * she smirks*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:44:37 PM)
Fear is a construct of the Man. And I'm not falling in love. Back me up on this Old Man.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:45:17 PM)
"Actually if you're going to drag me into this, I'm going to pull out Truth of Gaia and sit you both down." *sip of the coffee* "Because somehow you two have managed to have more issues with each other it seems than me and seventeen magazine combined"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:46:27 PM)
She's got most of 'em.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:46:33 PM)
*and he stepped closer towards the Koi pond, and looked at Serenity and then to Andy* "Bullshit"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:46:55 PM)
Why are you asking Tristan to back you up...he;'s got a mate...he beleives in monogamy...he's not afriad to be with someone...at least he faces any fears......
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:46:58 PM)
"You're both so busy telling each other the truth about the other one, for the most part, you're both lying to yourselves."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:48:54 PM)
"I suppose if I'm going to be the jack ass and speak up here, I'm going to say the whole thing. First off, believe it or not Serenity, monogamy is not historically a human thing. It's a modern one. That said before you open your mouth Andy, wolves typically mate for life, with one other. So if we want to go with the what's "nature" argument here, well, it's kind of a pointless argument to go with that one. "
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:49:32 PM)
Yes, because Tristan was raised to believe in the construct of The Man that is marriage and monogamy. Whereas I come from a slightly more liberal background. Tristan, you're not backing me up.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:49:38 PM)
"That said, I cant figure out why you each have this habit of telling the other one how awful their other dates are unless you both are jealous of 'em. And by the way, Andy, that aint gentlemanly."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:50:14 PM)
"Andy, okay, y'know what.." (Truth of Gaia just went up. yay!)
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:50:42 PM)
I'm not jealous. She just has shitty taste in men.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:50:51 PM)
(annnd which parts of that were truth?)
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:51:12 PM)
I'm not jelous...he just dates women with no morals
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:51:13 PM)
((Well...in his opinion, that's the gospel truth.))
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:51:29 PM)
"So neither of you are at all jealous or want to be with the other?" (if both are ringing as truth?)
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:53:46 PM)
I've told him how I feel about him.....
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:54:04 PM)
*quietly* Nice dodge.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:54:20 PM)
8to Andy* And i wonder if you even understand what jealousy is.
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:54:20 PM)
* she scowls at him* Shut up......you won't admit shit
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:54:26 PM)
"Both of you. guys. jesus."
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:54:40 PM)
* she glares at Andy* Ass
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:54:46 PM)
Bitch.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:55:00 PM)
"..." *he just looked from one to the other*
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:55:29 PM)
"Okay, that's it." *and he walked over to the ragabash and hefted him up, and started hauling him to the house* "if i have to seperate you two to talk sense into either of you I'll do it. You're next Serenity"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:56:02 PM)
* she sticks her tounge out at Andy and sits down in front of the pond*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:56:06 PM)
Hey-heyHEY! Easy on the threads!
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:56:23 PM)
*and just put the ragabash over a shoulder like so much the sack of potatoes* "You, diet. But that's another convo"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:56:33 PM)
(switch rooms or serenity wanna watch ooc?)
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 10:56:48 PM)
( you can do it here if you want :)
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:57:07 PM)
(okay) *and ragabash got tossed on the couch when he was inside the house, folded his arms and looked at him*
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:57:42 PM)
"Okay, now we're gonna play twenty questions with the dox. Because you, mister shrink, are deluding yourself. And it's so obvious that even me, who i thought was the pack nutcase, can figure it out."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:57:46 PM)
"Do you like serenity?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:58:02 PM)
I do not need to diet! You need to lift more. And I like her, what?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:58:21 PM)
"Okay, so, we're middleschoolers where liking someone translates to picking on and being a dick to?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 10:59:36 PM)
Even if she is self-destructive, self-absorbed, and throws up huge barriers to intimacy even ~after~ admitting to having feelings.I'm not being a dick to her.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:59:42 PM)
"Yes you are"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 10:59:48 PM)
"You're both treating the other like shit."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:00:03 PM)
"And then turning around and not doing so. Like you cant make up your minds"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:00:22 PM)
"And you're dodging the questions too. mister ragabash"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:00:41 PM)
"Maybe you should stop telling her she chooses gay, mister pan-sexual, you're one to talk"\
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:00:56 PM)
I've never dated a guy.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:01:02 PM)
"No you just talk about it all the time."
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:01:17 PM)
That's my dad.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:01:18 PM)
"Y'know, ever think about actually saying what you, andy, want? or even figuring it out? I'm not even sure you know"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:01:40 PM)
Oh, I know what I want.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:01:59 PM)
"What do you want? if you say a harem of women to bring you brownies in bed or some other ridiculous nonsense instead of what you really want I am going to beat you till Axe comes home"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:02:35 PM)
*opens mouth, closes mouth* Okay, lemme rephrase what I was gonna say.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:02:52 PM)
*and just stood back and watched, was being serious for a change with Andy*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:04:16 PM)
So out of all the relationships I saw growing up, my parents' was the most stable and caring one out there. Which is not me bragging, people were stunned that I had the same parents for parent-teacher conferences. Even the teachers.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:04:51 PM)
*he just nodded and motioned for the ragabash to continue*
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:05:17 PM)
So pretty much that. Without the guys coming on to me.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:05:41 PM)
"You realize, that..has nothing to do with how many women are in your bed and more to do with the relationship you have with whoever, or howmany of them there are?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:05:58 PM)
"your parents werent..caring because they were...interesting, any more than mine were what they were because they were married"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:07:01 PM)
"Which is to say, your rebellion against having one mate is a little misplaced...if you actually have that relationship with more than one person well y'do. but I aint seein it. I'm seein you runnin around because you think that'll get you what you want."
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:09:45 PM)
Because life is a buffet, and I absolutely refuse to stick with just the fried rice. Or in this case, the irish toffee.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:10:06 PM)
"Why?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:10:21 PM)
"Simply because of the physical aspect? that isn't what you said you want."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:10:43 PM)
"You realize you've just said two, rather contradictory things. What you want and what yer gonna do"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:10:50 PM)
What do you mean why?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:10:57 PM)
"I mean why?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:11:11 PM)
"If you want to have a relationship like your mom had with yoru dad, why does it matter whether you have the 50 item buffet?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:12:00 PM)
Because the integral part of the relationship was that they could be with other people and still come back.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:12:20 PM)
"You realize, that probably means they had to actually have a tolerable relationship with each other before that happened"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:12:32 PM)
"Or your mother would have done what the kin who raised me did which was when she found out, tossed him out on his ear"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:13:22 PM)
"Walk before y'run. as the phrase goes"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:14:07 PM)
But it's an integral part of the makeup.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:14:22 PM)
"I doubt it's why or how they actually cared for each other Andy"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:14:46 PM)
"You're tryin to make a carbon copy of something that cant be the same twice"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:14:48 PM)
Possibly. But I saw the results.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:15:00 PM)
"And me and Lex arent happy?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:15:11 PM)
That's up to you.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:15:13 PM)
"Lacie and Axe who, despite plans about kids, are otherwise exclusive, arent happy?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:15:22 PM)
"Do those not count as results?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:16:41 PM)
Infinite diversity in infinite combinations.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:16:55 PM)
"And so why are you so stuck on that one version for you?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:17:13 PM)
"Shouldn't you be figurin out how to be happy with the person you like, then figure out which version of it is right for both?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:17:19 PM)
"Or am i just smoking too goddamned much pot?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:17:36 PM)
*quirks* Were you not around for the explosiveness that was Raven?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:17:47 PM)
"I didnt ever know all the details. actually"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:18:04 PM)
Or...*shouts* Serenity, what was her name!?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:18:06 PM)
"However, lesse, I know that Jenn kissed a guy and Raven lost her shit with her and it tore them both apart"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:18:08 PM)
"Jennifer."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:18:24 PM)
"If you mean Ravens for a time girlfriend."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:18:42 PM)
"But what about raven?"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:18:47 PM)
What? who?!
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:19:06 PM)
The psycho chick before Raven?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:19:16 PM)
"I got no idea. Andy, you're derailing"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:19:20 PM)
Sarah! * grumbles* ass
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:19:37 PM)
"Okay, so explain to me how either Sarah, Raven, or Serenity, negate my argument here?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:20:44 PM)
Sarah. Point being, the monogamy thing doesn't fly because every time we have a serious discussion, I explain how things are with the psyche and the desire for a meaningful multipart relationship, and it's like ~i'm~ the one that's broken.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:21:13 PM)
"...again, we are so damn hungup on this thing."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:22:15 PM)
"you want a meaningful multi part relationship? i'll reiterate. Try having any meaning ful relationship period first"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:22:34 PM)
"You aint gonna manage it with a bedful of women if you cant get your head out of your tail with at least ONE"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:23:09 PM)
I have. They just...y'know they're meaningful at 7ish, and then by 9 the magic's gone. I'm not the broken one here.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:23:25 PM)
"Andy, what you said isn't what your parents had, what you want, or meaningful"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:23:30 PM)
"So yes, it's broken!"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:23:43 PM)
"Meaningful relationship does not mean two hours!"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:24:04 PM)
"How the hell do you manage the pack thing so right and this so wrong?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:24:25 PM)
"Would you join another pack just to try it for a week then ditch your packmates and totem because you wanna try another?"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:24:55 PM)
*eyes Tristan* Are you getting into my stash again?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:25:17 PM)
"No I have my own, but are you even getting the point here??"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:25:34 PM)
"Meaningful relationship with a woman- ...kinda like relationship with the pack. jsut without them in your head and the other part bein trueborn bit"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:26:03 PM)
"And more with the fun in bed. but there's some paralell here you do realize"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:27:01 PM)
There is, but you have to tell her that too.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:27:38 PM)
"Why, she seems to get it?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:27:53 PM)
"Not that there aint a talk with her next but she seems to fathom that part of it"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:28:30 PM)
*scrunches* I'll think about it. Her turn!
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:28:50 PM)
"I oughtta smack you for dodging. Get out of here and go think. You....grrr."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:29:17 PM)
"Go straighten your head out and i mean the one you're supposed to think with!"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:32:25 PM)
I'm not dodging and I'm not jealous. *storms out to the koi pond, looking at Serenity like it's her fault* Doctor Tristan says you owe him a nickel.
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:32:51 PM)
"TRISTAN says NO such THING. Andy!"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:33:27 PM)
* she looks over at Andy and gets up* Ass....* she heads into the house*
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:35:00 PM)
* she heads over to where Tristan is and sits down*
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:35:13 PM)
*he just sighed and to her* "you're as bad as he is too I might add"
Andy Nichols (Jul 25, 2010 11:35:30 PM)
*muuters* Bitch...
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:35:33 PM)
"He says you date gay men you say he dates sluts, where in there is ..oh...anything halfway productive?"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:37:39 PM)
* she shruggs* What else do I call them? he comes into the shop the next morning telling me about this woman and starts bragging......these women he meets in one night and he's slept with them...what do you call them?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:38:54 PM)
"Women."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:39:10 PM)
*said rather flatly* "I could get all southern and stodgy and judge it but why? It doesnt make me any happier or better to do so"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:40:03 PM)
I've been out with him when we go drinking and I have seen the women he goes home with.....there not the most....moral...if you get what I mean.....
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:40:43 PM)
"Okay, so they're not. You callin this out still isn't gonna help things"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:41:09 PM)
"You fight with him like y'married him already"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:41:35 PM)
So I call them that when he starts in on my dates..and after the whole dart thing he's been worse....he confuses me
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:41:45 PM)
"He confuses himself. actually"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:41:57 PM)
"And probably because he's stressed and worried and freaked out."
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:43:02 PM)
But I'm not pressuring him for a relationship or anything ...cuz I know he's not ready for anything other then a one night stand...I want more then that...a companion...a best friend......
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:43:38 PM)
"So why's he all up about you and intimacy then?"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:43:46 PM)
"Just because you wont have a one night stand with him?"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:44:41 PM)
No...he's not ever anything other then a gentleman with me.....he would never force himself on me......but ....that's what confuses me
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:45:19 PM)
Before the whole incident...we were cool and everything was good and we joked and went out and drank he went home with a girl I went home with a guy
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:46:43 PM)
Then I get hurt and he starts acting differently......so the day before I suppost to go home I tell him he doesn't have to babysit me and he can go back to his regular life cuz I'm fine.......he insists on feeling he has to babysit me
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:47:55 PM)
Yeah I pushes him away becuase he wanted to be a baby sitter becuase he felt guilty because he feels he failed me ...not becuase he wanted to actually be with me....does that make sence
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:48:19 PM)
"It does. a lot, really"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:48:45 PM)
"But he's not all that wrong on that it's a bad idea to have him over . it's not that well, you need baby sitting per say"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:48:49 PM)
"It's that other folks need ass kicking"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:49:48 PM)
I know....we usually hang out no problem but since this whole thing happen he's like different.....maybe I should let him play protector?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:50:04 PM)
"Play nothin. it's rather serious"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:50:26 PM)
"Bet you money he calms down when we get rid of the guy who started the problem"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:50:47 PM)
Well no I mean be my protector.....but yeah...this guy was so wierd.....
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:51:27 PM)
Yeah this is gonna be hard for me.....ya know...let someone be like bodyguard.....not used to it * she smiles a bit*
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:53:14 PM)
*small smile back* "no, but it's needed"
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:54:12 PM)
* she nods* Okay no promises but I'll try to let him be protector...you think he'll calm down if I go along with it?
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:55:34 PM)
So....you want to give me any insight into Andy...so I'm less confused?
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:55:51 PM)
"I'm really not good at this, but..he needs to sort himself out"
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:55:55 PM)
"I think."
Tristan Redgrave (Jul 25, 2010 11:56:11 PM)
"What he wants and what he thinks he needs to do are wholly seperate things and i have no idea why he aint figurin that out."
Serenity Carynx (Jul 25, 2010 11:57:22 PM)
Yeah...he seems confused and I've told him I'm giving him the time to figure it out......cuz If i do what all the others do and pressure him before he actually wants it...he'll sabotage it......you do realize I was his sheild for the other kin.....