Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:00:00 AM)
Would have done nothing good for the chat or for the players if I simply quitt, besides those who know me know I am a bit stubborn, and way to ocd when it comes to orginzation. Had I left nothing would have gotten changed or done. I mean I played in a tribe since october and the gw st ran 1 20 minute scene in the entrie time they had the tribe. They did no paper work and ran no scenes and the same went for many of the other "tribal sts" in fact at one point we had 7 wta sts and if it was not scarey bunny myself and windseeker there would have been no renown done no blue books answered no xp requests done and you would have been hard pressed to get any sort of scenes at all. I could have said "screw this im out of here". But I was determined to "show the players show the team"I could do this.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:02:03 AM)
I did some people who made it onto the staff some people who checked the scene tracker thread who checked the forums and seen the stuff me bunny and wind actualy did on a daily and weekly basis where suprised and it was only at that time that they took notice that the others where well.. Doing what? It was not xp that they where doing, it was not renown, it was not scenes.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:04:26 AM)
Can't expect a player who can not witness what goes on behind the scenes on such things to even have a minute understanding of the work. Why did i do it? Cause I did not want to fail at bringing my A game to the players and staff. YEah I know some people complain there will always be players who complain who think you do not do enough or see flaws in your mechanics your scenes or your imagination. But you can not please everyone all the time, and if you try to you are the only one who suffers in the end.

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:05:02 AM)
I disagree. Not only should you have quit but, you should have cried foul loudly! You can't let player abuse and unethical situations just be. You should have screen shot what you knew and you should have made it public. It's that very kind of clandestine crap around here that has made this game deteriorate sooooo far. It's what I have been SCREAMING about.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:08:58 AM)
I did not quitt then I will not quitt in the future. If I am found cheating or being unethical the team has the ability to fire me for it. Until then there stuck with me, and unfortunatly so is everyone whom might not agree with my methods or my choices. I will continue to bring my A game I will continue to run scenes, I will continue to do paper work both on a st level and a hst level. I have all ready had one meeting with my staff and we have gotten alot of things in play and hired a new assistant st on to the wta staff.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:09:21 AM)
Whom is just a scene jockey and his purpose will be to run scenes and scenes only

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:09:55 AM)
We are closeing up the old story lines that will be sept involved so it is more nwol based and sept based sls for all

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:12:13 AM)
Though places like the heart of the sea will remain backdrop places where others can go for tribal scenes like when and if bastain makes his way to athro a place he could challenge a fenris in a fenris enviorment that is why those places are there not to take away from the nowl setting but garou do travle to umbral locations and they do go to tribal locations outside of one particular place. I enjoy running spirtual umbral type scenes it is dark and dangerous it calls to me as a st.

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:12:33 AM)
And as far as not witnessing what goes on behind the scenes. I was a Chat Admin for 3 years. My chat got shut down because the Owner got arrested for kiddy porn. (He was acquitted, but the damage to the chat was done.) Ask around. Talk to Dusk and Legion, or Syn, or any other handful of people that played on City of Shadows. But, if Lukas and/or I were being harmed by an unethical situation in that scene, and you did nothing to protect us, How can we trust you? How can we trust that you will indeed bring your A game? Or that you will not make more bad decissions and not own up to them?

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:19:53 AM)
If I make any bad decisions in the future then you will have all the reason to scream bloody murder would you not? As I am the hst of the venue at this point. The decisions are mine to make not some one elses to tell me what I can or can not say or do. I do not think since december I have done anything to even earn any sort of compounded mistrust from anyone. 5 months now and it is still the issue in december in which I had no say of that continues to be brought up as the only complaint and issue that seems to continue to crop up. Honestly I never played on a place called city of shadows. I was on a few digi chats but that is not one of them.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:21:25 AM)
Not that I remember in anycase. There was some chats I had joined that I logged in 3 times and then just never returned to do to ridiculous stuff like a kinfolk warder of a sept, or a get of fenris run sept which had a treaty with vampires

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:22:21 AM)
I mean you log into a place like that you go ic your told some crazy thing by the fenris elder not to attack leeches because there is a treaty and you dont even ask why you just log out and never return

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:25:53 AM)
Dusk and Legion (Demon ST's here.) were the Vampire HST and ST on CoS. Actually there are a lot of former CoS players here. We brought it online before New Bremen closed. And you might not see it but, you really have compounded the mistrust. For one, I shouldn't have had to request this meeting. You really should have said, 'wow, I've never talked to Geoff since that scene, and he is still pissed about it. Maybe I should offer the olive branch." That's how ST's and HST's handle situations. The good one's at least. And THIS chat made deals with BSD's and have a Metis BSD in the Sept! I am beside myself that you willingly let someone do something unethical to players to further your hopes to be a full ST.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:30:45 AM)
That was not why I let someone do some thing unethical you say I should have quitt I disagree. I know nothing about making deals with BSD's and the metis BSD in the sept certainly was NOT my call, and I had been told it was no longer in the sept a long time ago. There are no scene reports at all about bsd deals but then again besides wind myself and scarey i have not seen any in the forums which leaves me not knowing anything about bsd's the metis cub i had heard of I spoke up against but as I was involved ic I could not act on it as a narrator.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:35:20 AM)
I am sorry that this meeting has done nothing but compound the mistrust or you feel I should have sought you out with a olive branch in hand. But if you have a problem with me you ask to speak to me on chat, I will not accept rumors as truths, and I will not respond to ranting on a forum that I do not work on as a reason to make nicey nicey with some one whom never once tried to speak to me on this chat. This chat which I do work on never once did you seek to speak to me, only to attack my integrity on a forum that I can not respond to reguardless. That we are told not to respond to, and that is a player has a issue they need to take it in the correct chain of command that this chat has set in place.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:37:43 AM)
(afk bathroom)

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:40:21 AM)
How can I trust someone who willingly lets unethical ST tactics go unchecked? It's as bad as if you had activily participated in those unethical things. I'm beside myself. And the fact that you are protecting those people now even after the fact, I can't explain it.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:40:24 AM)
(bak)

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:41:09 AM)
I had told the admins but I mean I found quitting hurt no one but the players.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:41:33 AM)
It was that I did nothing, I went through the proper chain of command.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:41:44 AM)
(That I did not do nothing)

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:42:29 AM)
And I did too. I did not approach you because I was told to talk to Ghostlin who ignored me. But, you KNEW something foul was happening! You watched it happen and did nothing?

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:49:18 AM)
I went through the proper chain of command. I followed the rules set before me as a narrator, as a member of the staff on SI, not that I did nothing, I continued to do my job and left it to the admins. I knew there was a complaint made which the admins came to me due to some dice rolls on the dice roller. I explained that i used the players dice pools against them in both rites of war, to check the dice rollers and logs of both accounts which they did and found I was not showing any sort of favortisum or being unethical in those scenes what so ever. After that was done I was contiuosly told i was being dragged through soap box bubbles. They knew the situaion of the original one was not my doing, they checked the logs of the rank challenges and rites of war in which players said there was some sort of discrepency (sp?) again I had not fudged a single thing both there seen completely fair by all standards. These have been the only things I have delt with in any sort of compasity on here. The admins have the log

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:51:29 AM)
I am so disappointed right now that I don't care about the ridiculous fetish, the Alphaship, even the exclusion from the Umbral Pirate SL, the BSD cub in the Sept, the Diceless Fostern Challenges, etc. I can't believe you have so little integrity. I thought it was just your stubborness and inability to admit you were wrong. It turns out it is so much deeper than that. I got nothing left to say. I'll keep hoping that the game gets better.

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:52:20 AM)
I'm sorry. I just don't know what to say when someone says they know I was cheated in some way and did nothing.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:54:07 AM)
I am sorry you feel cheated, and I hope the game gets better for you in the future on the chat if you want any personal tribal scenes in the future or another talk of any kind toss me a fpm. I will be here if you need it.

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:54:56 AM)
I don't understand who you can say that you are sorry I got cheated, when vicariously, you are the one that was the hand that did it.

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:55:28 AM)
It only makes it worse that the Admin's knew and did nothing either...

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 12:56:52 AM)
If you were really sorry, you would take a stand and tell everyone what happened. By keeping it hidden, you just perpetuate the crime.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 12:59:50 AM)
I will not do that, that is the decision of the Admins, those things fall in there laps not mine.

GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 1:00:17 AM)
*sadface* Have a good night.

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 1:00:25 AM)
Goodnight Geoff

Gabby Girl (May 17, 2011 1:01:25 AM)
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GeoffH OOC (May 17, 2011 1:01:50 AM)
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