Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:06:58 PM)
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SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:07:13 PM)
Hey, okay, so basically the whole gist is, we wanna check in one on one with the wta stafff
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:07:29 PM)
just given, well, lots of reasons. nobody's in trouble that they dont already know about and all that jazz. so, yeah. no stress on that count
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:08:00 PM)
Basically what i want to know, is , your opinion of what's goin on in WTA. What's going well, what's not going well.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:08:02 PM)
Relax Scareybunny was the one all nervous and stuff....I'm neutral on this.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:08:19 PM)
Lol you are. i have gotten used to the disclaimers. it's not just SB who gets all "OMG SIGGY" on me. XD
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:09:08 PM)
Where Ghostlin is concerned...I think we need to give him some time to rev back up so to speak. He seems over the stress out, hes learned to ignore RPG Soapbox which is to be blunt lesson number one. We'll see.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:10:56 PM)
For myself? I agreed to take on some minor sheet work, mainly to deal with the CoI issues others have.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:10:59 PM)
*nod nod*
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:11:49 PM)
Some of the staff are rather inactive.....but I understand from Ghosty some of them will be given a probation of sorts to kick it in gear or not. So I guess that addresses that.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:11:54 PM)
Oh and Saph is a spaz.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:12:47 PM)
How so?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:13:01 PM)
Not to ask for gossip but i'm not sure which definition of spazz you're trying to tell me he is.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:13:44 PM)
My assessment as both a player and ST on him? He has no mastery over basic ST skills such as pacing, timing, mood.... the few scenes I've been in? He left a bunch of frustrated bored players behind him. Even letting them flavor post killing the bad guys verses the let down he did would have been better.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:14:41 PM)
*nod* gotcha.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:15:24 PM)
He has creative ideas, but doesn't use them well. Mostly if something is rare and shiney in the books .....oh like Abominations, Siberkah, etc....he'll want to whip them out. It's not a BAD thing persay......but theres a time and place for them. Random cameo appearances in mundane scenes isn't it.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:15:31 PM)
*nod*
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:15:48 PM)
ok. i follow now. in fact i knowexactly what yo'ure referring to.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:16:08 PM)
other than sapph, and the staff thats on probation, is there anything else you think needs fixing or needs help/addressing?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:16:16 PM)
or that the admins doing would make things better for the wta staff?
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:17:13 PM)
To summarize on Saph....He doesn't ST well, and when anyone tries to give him descent advise or to even tell him about player disatisfaction, he poo poos it and makes jokes. His underlying attitude is dismissive of anything that might help him improve.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:17:28 PM)
oh, geez. thats not good
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:17:49 PM)
I didnt realize Saph wasn't taking advice.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:17:59 PM)
Oh he hears but he doesn't listen.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:18:26 PM)
Lynette's outbursts on Saph? Mostly the summation of alot of frustration at him not listening. By now shes just rabid.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:18:51 PM)
Shes a good ST, but does get worked up. But at least she can be reigned in.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:19:01 PM)
I've no issues with anyone else on the team.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:19:12 PM)
Save that some are inactive...
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:20:04 PM)
Right. and we're very aware of who
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:20:13 PM)
trust me. we've had several convos with ghostlin on just that.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:20:34 PM)
If you want to get a test of Saph's attitude RPG Soapbox actually is a good measuring stick.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:20:39 PM)
is there anything else we could do to help you guys out though? maybe not staff related? or are things reasonably decent?
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:20:57 PM)
He'd have gotten far less flack from even that batch of numbnuts if he didn't treat everything like a joke.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:21:11 PM)
Trust me, know that too
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:21:20 PM)
There's a reason we put up the staff policies the way we did and had allegory step in on the box
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:21:35 PM)
but tank you for telling me. confirms i'm not out of my head.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:22:21 PM)
Well theres one player.....Loco Lobo.....the shifty lying, half truth, I'm playing ignorant and innocent when I know damn well what I'm doing sort.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:22:41 PM)
Hrm. Noted that ones a potential issue.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:22:55 PM)
But we finially got her handcuffed....Ghostlin best have his chance with her.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:22:56 PM)
If you want we can pull logs of things that arent warnable, so they can be recorded in threads. as a trend of behavior leading to a warrning.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:23:06 PM)
ah.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:23:12 PM)
okay, if it's handled then i'm glad for it.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:23:19 PM)
In the process of being handled.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:23:35 PM)
Yama has been quiet sinse I ran his pack scene.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:24:34 PM)
There is Bastian but hes not at my annoyance level yet. Lynette is mostly dealing with him with Fenrir.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:25:02 PM)
We just need to pick up with the SLs again. Busy players are less whiney players.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:25:23 PM)
Anything you want of me?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:27:24 PM)
(sorry back work called)
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:27:41 PM)
And no, there's nothing i want out of you. XD you're doing great by all reports that reach my ears
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:27:56 PM)
i just wanted to know what the admins needed to be aware of, and if there was anything we could do to help you out.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:27:56 PM)
Thats because I'm god.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:27:58 PM)
:P
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:01 PM)
Goddess
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:04 PM)
unless you changed gender on me
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:05 PM)
:p
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:11 PM)
godess even.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:23 PM)
Alright then, get your holy butt outta here. XD and have a good day
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:33 PM)
You want an ear full go interview Gabby Girl.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:36 PM)
LoL
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:40 PM)
She's on the list
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:42 PM)
all of wta is on the list.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:46 PM)
we're gettin there. XD
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:28:52 PM)
She'll be on the preverbial Soapbox...she has ALOT to say.
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:29:42 PM)
We done then?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:30:06 PM)
yup
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:30:08 PM)
We're done. XD
Windseeker (Jan 12, 2011 4:30:14 PM)
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SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:00 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:12 PM)
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SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:23 PM)
Hey, okay, so, firt things off - you're not in trouble
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:26 PM)
this is not an interview to stay on staff
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:32 PM)
and what you say here stays between you and the admins
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:33 PM)
*Tips hat* that is nice
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:37:45 PM)
basically what i want to know
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:38:04 PM)
is several things. 1. what's going well in wta. 2. what's not going well. 3. what are you up to lately and 4. what can the admins do (or not do), to help things along?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:38:18 PM)
and of couse, answer any questions *you* have for the admin team
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:41:37 PM)
I have a alot to say on all those matters actually. 1. What is going on well in wta, I must saying having bunny so active with sheet work is a massive blessing, having given wind the ability to do cof is also a blessing. Icould not be happier knowing that wind will be doing coi cause they just have not been getting done. I did 41 requests in a few hours with minumal mistakes that i went back and fixed by the end of the day. But a player whom i and bunny where coi with whom is not on staff still had his november requests that where posted in december before the st break and didtnt get done till last friday and only then by a admin.
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:42:20 PM)
granted ghostlins permisisons where pulled but catnix and sap both had permissions and neither could be bothered to do a single coi for a player whom me and bunny could not do.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:42:20 PM)
ouch. yeah. okay, but with WS on sheetwork that should help right?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:42:37 PM)
right. catnik and saph not doing their sheetwork
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:42:48 PM)
yes with windseeker on coi it should truly help a great deal and that is why it is something i am glad to see.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:42:52 PM)
*nod*
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:43:32 PM)
I am also happy to see windseeker on the team even though she does not truly want a paper work load she runs incredible scenes and is very cannon, I could not be happier about that as well,.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:44:30 PM)
*nod nod* (if im quiet, i'm just listening)
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:46:31 PM)
She belives in being honest and I take it even when it is advice about how i myself could work on some thing, because i know she is not being insulting but honest and her crisitum is a welcomed pleasure good or bad, I have a deep respect for her as a st, she has always been fair, never shown favortisum, and never ran of rumors. She gives every player the benfit of the doubt, till they prove to be a problem with there actions. This level of maturity and professionalism that I have witnessed first hand as a player beneith her makes me feel very privlaged to be working on the same team beside her.
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:46:55 PM)
(Never ran off of rumors)
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:47:16 PM)
I"m glad to hear it. really.
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:51:18 PM)
As for things that are issues for me. There is quite a few. The fenris thing in particular. I feel I truly got flayed by the team for it, and placed on a cutting block to be honest. There is little I can say to defend my own actions with out making the team look like crap. That i find highly upsetting. 1.) never told they wanted a pc elder, they gave me the tribe and i started working on the story line and even the sept in which my elder would come from. I introduced the sept in 2 of the pcs rank challenges, and it was posted on the boards back in december on the 5th. But as the date drew near for the fenris challenge ghostlin and zhead said that "anna" wanted the elder position. That she was mature enough to hold the position ect. ect.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:51:53 PM)
Hrm.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:06 PM)
instead of letting the players speak for themselves, and you needed better communication to start with?
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:09 PM)
Ghostlin is her packmate and supoosidly she is also the owenr or some admins girl friend.. Then it gets totaly convaluted
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:12 PM)
basically?
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:24 PM)
Because she says
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:33 PM)
yeah i know ghostlin's her packmate, so am i. but anna has to earn it herself.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:38 PM)
jut like anybody else.
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:39 PM)
"i want the postion" then "i dont" then "i want it" then "i dont
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:52:47 PM)
ugh ok
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:53:18 PM)
Yeah and I posted in the forums "if there is not three pcs challenging for the position i am bringing in a npc to challenge"
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:53:21 PM)
as far as getting flayed by the team
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:53:29 PM)
Yes flayed
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:53:50 PM)
can you tell me what you mean? and, how you would prefer things work if an ST does make a mistake (like,, specifics, obviously- not flayed)
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:53:55 PM)
because I can not say "They wanted Anna in the position of elder and killed the npc elder off "for anna"
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:54:07 PM)
Definately not and that shouldnt happen
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:54:12 PM)
But it did!
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:54:24 PM)
I thought we were removing the npc elder so all the fenrir pcs that wanted it could have a chance?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:54:28 PM)
or is that not whats going on?
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:57:14 PM)
And even when i ran her rank challenge she told the elders that she needed to be adren because there was no acting fenris elder at her sept. I allowed her to back date her challenge if she was actualy going to challenge for the positon which she said she was and that was only the day before the fenris challenge i spent i think 6 to 8 hours running that scene and it would have taken more then a week for her to complete but again she wanted to challenge then the next day comes and here is the challenge she shows up and does not challenge. So i was forced to bring in a npc at the drop of a dime which i had not previously planned to do because up until that moment she continued to claim she was challenging for elder.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:58:27 PM)
ah.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:58:32 PM)
I didnt realize that had been going on.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:58:34 PM)
*frowns*
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:58:49 PM)
Next time something like that happens, would you flag an admin earlier in the process?
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 4:58:51 PM)
Again signal they did not tell me they killed the npc elder off to give the position to the players till i had allready created a entire sept and had my story line in the works for the up and comming missions and such with there new elder. they then told me they wanted her in the position I told them i did not want to have to deal wityh another hans issue
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 4:59:06 PM)
no, definately.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:00:13 PM)
I mean, that's. i knew you didnt know about the npc elder off thing
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:00:17 PM)
that much i heard, the rest, i didnt know.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:00:50 PM)
do you mind if i tell the other admins what you said, auggy excluded for COI (i am slightly but...)
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:00:59 PM)
even in the fenris meeting we had with the players. other sts zhead in particular got pmed by players saying "I am glad bastain did not wind up as tribal elder i would delete my chr right now and make a new one in a different tribe" . I don't even know that person he is brand new to the chat and venue, but with hans we lost 5 fang pcs in 2 days all asked to be deleted because they did not want to deal with him as there tribal representive and none where of high enough rank to challenge him
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:01:15 PM)
Right.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:01:25 PM)
Well let me ask this, then.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:01:32 PM)
What's the current plan with the Fenrir?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:01:56 PM)
or is that sorted yet? if it's not, no worries. i'm just trying to figure out other than addressing the clear issues of communication, and how we hadle things like that, where we go from there
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:02:35 PM)
I do not mind if you tell them, this is what my issue has been. I was told I can not move to blues till "I fix the fenris issue" yet i can not blow my own nose at this point without approval because i upset players with the npc, which i was "going to bring in/not going to bring in/going to bring in/ not going to bring in.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:03:47 PM)
*whuff* right.
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:03:53 PM)
Its been a disaster and I can not even explain it to the players due to the fact they killed a elder pc to hand the position to another player whom would have every player screaming coi/favortisum
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:03 PM)
no, absolutely
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:04 PM)
elder npc
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:16 PM)
the idea as i know about was to give the pcs opportunities to have tribal spots
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:25 PM)
but it's not supposed to be slated for an individual person
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:36 PM)
that said, i have to eave the office, could we pause this?
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:40 PM)
i know we arent done. and i hate to say that
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:45 PM)
Exactly yet im being torn asunder on soap box i got players telling me there looseing faith in my abilites because they think im the one dropping the ball.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:47 PM)
but i just realized, if i dont leave now, i dont eat til midnight.
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:04:54 PM)
Okay, step 1- soapbox is not the staff
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:03 PM)
we dont even reply to soapbox anymore because of all the bullshit, tears, and crap
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:08 PM)
Got you I will pause this till next time
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:11 PM)
and it's not that we want to leave you hanging
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:14 PM)
it's that no matter WHAT we say
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:17 PM)
they rip it apart
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:21 PM)
but we'll talk about that later.
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:24 PM)
Yeah I get it
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:31 PM)
*hugs*
Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:32 PM)
Okay i will speak to you later
SignalDancer (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:33 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Jan 12, 2011 5:05:42 PM)
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