Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:11:03 AM)
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Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:11:08 AM)
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Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:11:27 AM)
I R TEH H8KAZ

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:11:39 AM)
huh?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:11:49 AM)
figured the pass out quickly enough. ;)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:12:21 AM)
yes you did lol

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:12:27 AM)
hence, I am teh hackerz

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:12:47 AM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3744

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:13:12 AM)
It says you will not be returning to the wta venue indefinately?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:13:55 AM)
yeah, there are things abound in the real life genre that could potentially thwart my RP time on SI or any other digi

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:14:34 AM)
So far things seem okay, but that could change with the tick of a clock, if ya catch my drift

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:16:04 AM)
you also put your characters i noticed up for deletion on the delete forum

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:16:32 AM)
Yeah, at the time I was left with no alternative

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:16:41 AM)
Also asked for your digi login and forum to also be deleted?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:16:59 AM)
Yup. If things change the way I fear they will, I'll be without net for at least 8-10 months

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:17:02 AM)
Why where you left with no alternative?

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:17:21 AM)
You can let us know that and we will hold them for you

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:17:36 AM)
I didn't want to be an exception to any rule

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:17:42 AM)
we have many people who are heading to school and such as well who have allready asked us not to delete

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:17:49 AM)
Besides, the toons aren't really instrumental in any venue. ;)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:17:58 AM)
we allow it as long as you let us know in advance

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:18:40 AM)
Oh I understand. I knew it'd be feasable if I were to ask them to be held

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:18:53 AM)
However, things being as they were, there'd be no guarantees that I'd be returning

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:19:07 AM)
They are in mine but thats beside the point, you have real life interfearing so I will have to deal with that, but if you want us to keep them I would do so for you and put in a note to the team to keep those pcs out of the deltion section

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:19:16 AM)
ohhh

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:19:25 AM)
well did not realise that

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:22:32 AM)
I did not realise you might never come back online again thus i wanted to make sure there was nothing i could do to maybe help ya with this.

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:22:43 AM)
your comment

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:22:49 AM)
Think I'm pretty much done with Digichats and their "communities" for a while. No snark shark here. Just done.

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:23:30 AM)
sort of sparked my concearn.. I did not realise it was you never going to have internet acess again and wanted to make sure i spoke to you about it in case it was something on our end.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:24:15 AM)
Yeah I understand

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:24:33 AM)
It wasn't meant to be scathing remark

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:24:44 AM)
Okay so I will make sure they get deleted then, unless you wanted to keep them longer?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:24:53 AM)
It was more of a commentary towards the community as a whole

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:25:09 AM)
(sry, had to go afk. Got three nephews running around here)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:25:29 AM)
(its okay plus you just brewed your coffee)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:25:33 AM)
Mmkay, here's what's going on

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:25:47 AM)
ok

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:25:53 AM)
Over the past week, a lot of things have been brought to my attention that I couldn't ignore any longer

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:26:15 AM)
Most of these things and ideas and whatnot have been submitted and warranted by the playerbase of the garou venue as a whole

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:26:45 AM)
Basically, the venue has become something that has strayed drastically from what I'd hoped it would become

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:27:17 AM)
What "things" are you speaking of specificly?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:27:32 AM)
When it first opened, there was a definitive enemy, and the sept was rallied around this one common cause. But due to burnout of the various staff (and the apathy of others), the players were left to entertain themselves

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:27:57 AM)
Through that, the players have turned the sept into more of a "High school hallway" than a gathering ground of killing machines

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:28:37 AM)
Like, take Hans for example. He's bold, very moody, and isn't afraid to lash out and put someone overly mouthy in their place.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:28:50 AM)
Some of the stuff he's pulled over the past year should've had him hunted by any other sept

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:29:19 AM)
But instead, the players just shrug their shoulders and sorta ignore him, having him chalked up as "Oh, he's a Fang, he's crazy"

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:29:48 AM)
Well, I had it in my head that Hans would kill someone (something I, as a player, never do; killing characters intentionally)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:30:11 AM)
But, it'd dawned on me that such an action would alienate the playerbase even further, and thus make greater headaches to you and your staff

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:31:34 AM)
Soooo, in my frustration, I started looking around for alternative medias to be able to display these ideas, hoping to find a playerbase with a more open mind

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:31:55 AM)
Then I found one, and it has lots of promise (and it's not a digichat, and everyone there writes out novels that put my posts to shame).

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:32:28 AM)
okay..

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:32:46 AM)
So, upon its discovery, I decided that I'd slowly phase out my characters on SI and IV and the other digis and start going there full time

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:33:14 AM)
I'd actually considered setting up some scenes with ya to have Hans killed by an NPC enemy, to add to any given SL you had going.

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:33:25 AM)
Has it worked out like you hoped?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:33:34 AM)
Then RL stepped in and said, "No, no you can't do that. You're going to lose everything soon"

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:34:01 AM)
:(

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:34:03 AM)
Thus, disillusioned, upset, and frustrated, I did the only thing that seemed logical

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:34:14 AM)
Sever all ties and try to enjoy what little bit of freedom I have left. :)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:34:29 AM)
THAT being said though (prepare for me typing in circles)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:34:40 AM)
This weekend did some things that put a lot of things in check

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:34:51 AM)
Namely a spider bite and a hospital trip in Kentucky

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:35:23 AM)
*listens*

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:35:25 AM)
I have regret in the post that I made, but I can't/won't take them back

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:35:54 AM)
Why not?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:36:13 AM)
Because I won't be "That Guy" who does things in haste because his temper is flared up

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:36:19 AM)
Why can you not delete the posts?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:36:29 AM)
There's enough of "That Guy" on this chat in a lot of the players. :)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:36:31 AM)
I can delete them if you give me permission to

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:37:08 AM)
id rather delete the posts and keep you then let you leave them up there to deny the fact your a human and make mistakes when anger gets the best of you.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:37:30 AM)
It's a recurring theme though

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:37:35 AM)
Just ask SD or Ghostlin. ;)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:37:45 AM)
I have a really bad temper, but refuse to lash out for it

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:37:48 AM)
Oh what being human is a reoccuring thing?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:37:57 AM)
naw hon, I have a shitty temper

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:38:07 AM)
It's something I've fought since puberty. ;p

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:38:13 AM)
And they call me Yankee rage so I would never understand?

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:39:14 AM)
Listen just let me delete them and anyone gives ya slack ya can tell them its none of there bussiness..

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:39:57 AM)
You don't want to keep luther fine you dont want to keep crazy as a shit house fine but damn it man at least keep hans.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:40:46 AM)
go ahead and kill Crazy as a Shithouse Rat

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:40:55 AM)
That Qualmi will never see the light of day

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:41:10 AM)
If you wanna do some grandioise end to Hans, that's fine. I'll even RP it out

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:41:24 AM)
Luther..... I gotta talk to Dastai about. That's her baby.

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:42:44 AM)
so you don't want to keep hans? If you want him to die in glorious battle there are some battles coming up, he can die in defence of a caren

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:43:13 AM)
theres nothing really more glorious and honorable then that

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:43:26 AM)
and you will have to play him of cource

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:43:31 AM)
Yeah I know

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:43:31 AM)
in the battle scene

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:43:45 AM)
Here's what's up. I'm tired of being enigmatic

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:44:03 AM)
This is me, you, SD, Auggy and Dastai here (aka those who can pull logs)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:44:12 AM)
ok

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:44:37 AM)
There's a 95% chance that I'm going to jail for at least six months

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:45:01 AM)
I got that from your previous hints

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:45:05 AM)
Long story short, my girlfriend's ex-husband raised hell about her dating someone, and I wound up whooping his ass

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:45:16 AM)
*nods*

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:45:20 AM)
Which would've been fine until I started beating him with a brick

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:45:30 AM)
Then it became battery and assault w/deadly weapon

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:45:36 AM)
assult with a deadly weapon

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:45:38 AM)
yeah

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:45:46 AM)
And he /is/ pressing charges

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:46:28 AM)
anyway, that's started a whole cereal bowl full of drama here, because I don't have enough money in my savings to cover my bills during my "vacation away from the world"

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:46:42 AM)
So I'm liable to lose this house (that I just moved into)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:46:52 AM)
and possibly everything in it. ;p

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:46:58 AM)
:(

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:47:03 AM)
Thankfully, my court date isn't until July 19th

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:47:36 AM)
dude if you could at least pay storage in advance

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:47:37 AM)
So unless ex-hubby sees the light and realizes that this ass-whooping was three years coming to him, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get locked up

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:47:50 AM)
you wouldnt loose your stuff storage units are not that expensive

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:48:06 AM)
I know. I've talked to my parents about that. They have a 16x14 that's not halfway full

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:48:09 AM)
you can pay in advance

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:48:17 AM)
*nods*

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:48:24 AM)
and shit, my sister could use new furniture. :p

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:48:34 AM)
So I may just give her my living room. *shrug*

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:49:03 AM)
listen man you dun need to delete or kill the chr cause your going to be spending time behind bars

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:49:31 AM)
Here's the crux though

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:49:42 AM)
Hans goes away, comes back six months later the way he was when he left

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:50:00 AM)
There'll be a whole boatload of new players thinking that I'm some drama llama playing some newbie Fang

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:50:14 AM)
until they get smacked with his iron fist of 13 bashing

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:50:37 AM)
then they'll cry bullshit, and run to you and Windseeker and Scarybunnie, and y'all have to put up with that crap. :p

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:52:28 AM)
Like I said it is your choice Deschain your choice!

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:53:14 AM)
Hey, I'm trying to spare y'all some headaches here. ;)

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:53:23 AM)
Hans is designed to be an antagonist

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:53:36 AM)
The players have spoken. They don't want an antagonist in their venue

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:54:54 AM)
They prefer sitting on porches and kitchen tables and talk about pregnancies and gossip about kinfolk romance. *shrug*

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:55:12 AM)
....and half of 'em have wormed their way into Adren status for it. *shrug again*

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:56:00 AM)
I wanted to do that whole story line arch with the fangs to aid hans in redemption with the spirits and such to give him a semblance of control. They did not worm there way into adren by sitting on the porch. They attened scenes did there renown posted there r.o.a's.

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:56:08 AM)
Some of which

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:56:16 AM)
I've seen those RoA's. *blink*

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:56:54 AM)
woke up at 4 am in the morning sat in there hall ways with there lap tops while there families where sleeping due to being on a different time zone just to attend some of those scenes in which they gained renown

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:57:45 AM)
I've been there, and done that sweetie

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:57:58 AM)
There've been nights where I was onliny from 10pm to 7am waiting for those scenes. ;)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:58:04 AM)
Right but the rank was not handed to them for sitting on the sept porch

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 11:58:33 AM)
that is what they might due between scenes so that they can be social with other players and such.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:58:58 AM)
Well I'd heard about some of their "Challenges" for rank

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:59:06 AM)
I was not impressed. But that's a personal preference

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:59:25 AM)
I come from some chats where advancing in rank is a lot longer process and infinitely more difficult

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 11:59:40 AM)
and before you say it, I'm aware. That this isn't those chats. ;)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:00:10 PM)
Fostern should not be a insane challenge

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:00:18 PM)
and all adren challenges have been pretty heavy

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:00:37 PM)
but there was no rules on time limits between them till recently which was the problem

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:00:38 PM)
Know what my Fostern challenge was?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:00:47 PM)
I had Hans fight a Gorgon (that killed him)

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:01:07 PM)
a st gave him that challenge?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:01:20 PM)
Yup, it was an SL finisher. The challenge was given to him by the WyrmFoe

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:01:40 PM)
*nods*

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:02:29 PM)
So yeah, I come from hardcore roots. I'd hoped to see that bleed into the venue as the chat opened

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:02:49 PM)
I love seeing garou venues with that sense of tension; that the enemy could strike at any moment and without warning

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:03:00 PM)
That tension isn't here. :(

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:03:17 PM)
But, that's nobody's fault but the player base, ya know?

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:03:53 PM)
I don't blame my player base for not creating a more tence filled enviorment.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:03:55 PM)
It's their choice what the atmosphere is they play in. All the staff can do is propogate their wishes and whatnot

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:04:48 PM)
I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. It's just what they want

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:05:41 PM)
Well it is up to you if you want to have hans die in a glorious death at the sept or you want to keep him. But if you could give me a answer to that?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:06:02 PM)
He's going to die eventually. Be it at the hands of the wyrm or by an ambush by a pack

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:06:31 PM)
After six months of being incapable of spending XP, I think it's time for him to step into obscurity

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:08:41 PM)
*nods* all right.. so you want to die in the scene or just have him deleted?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:09:02 PM)
Whichever is easiest for you

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:09:22 PM)
It's time I wash my hands of the garou here, sad to say. :(

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:09:23 PM)
i will see you at the scene then the times are in the ic forums

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:09:37 PM)
thursday and friday

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:09:40 PM)
Fair enough

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:09:50 PM)
I'll make sure he falls in the 3rd round

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:10:04 PM)
id rather it be a ic die with glory and honor then just fadeing into nothingness

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:10:27 PM)
Do ya know how much XP Hans has built up right now? :p

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:10:39 PM)
no i don't

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:10:41 PM)
130

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:10:47 PM)
well. 127 to be exact

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:11:03 PM)
I've yet to do an XP req, since he can't justify anything. :p

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:11:16 PM)
Ive noticed he never did xp

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:11:19 PM)
or renown

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:11:24 PM)
Couldn't justify any of it

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:11:37 PM)
He was the 3rd garou in this venue when the chat opened. He's been in.... two scenes.

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:11:51 PM)
One of them turned into a snarkfest with Bastian Schmitz

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:12:10 PM)
Did you know that Hans also only has lvl-1 gifts, despite being the first Fang Fostern in the venue? :p

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:12:23 PM)
he was a transfer was he not?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:12:27 PM)
He was

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:12:40 PM)
so he did not transfer with rank 2 gifts?

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:12:53 PM)
Nope. He was killed before he was given a chance to learn them

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:13:00 PM)
and no theurge will speak to him. :p

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:13:12 PM)
and he can't learn Spirit Speech due to the house rules, so he can't learn them himself. :p

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:14:47 PM)
So basically, I've just been in an developmental rut with him since day-1

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:15:22 PM)
brb, smoke

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:15:43 PM)
Okay, and im sorry for it..

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:20:32 PM)
i need to grab some grub, so unless there is anything else let me know?

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:20:56 PM)
you always got my ear on skype

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:42:57 PM)
I'm back

Deschain OOC (May 31, 2011 12:43:02 PM)
and yeah, I'll hit ya up later

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:43:06 PM)
wow yeah

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:43:14 PM)
long ciggertte over half hour

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:43:32 PM)
okay well hit me up another time.

Gabby Girl (May 31, 2011 12:43:44 PM)
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