Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 11:54:39 AM)
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SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 11:54:47 AM)
What's up?
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 11:55:07 AM)
I was gunna take this gal into the demon venue and ogre said i have to remake her on a demon template
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 11:55:48 AM)
Are you making her as a mortal who will turn into a thrall, or are you someone's thrall already and are going to be turning into a demon?
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 11:56:01 AM)
A mortal that would become a thrally
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 11:56:33 AM)
*nods* Ok, I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. I'm sorry, please continue?
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 11:56:59 AM)
Its ok, and i was wondering umm i make it on the thrall template right?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 11:58:06 AM)
*nods* When you start out in the venue, going from mortal to thrall, we request that you create the character as a mortal, but on the thrall template. You will have a mortal icon until someone officially thralls you, at which point you will be given the bonuses to add to your sheet for the demonic pact.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 11:59:30 AM)
This just makes it a lot easier in the transition process when the thralling takes place. Also, your blue-booking, xp request and scene request forums will all be under the demon venue, even though you are still technically a "mortal".
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 12:00:17 PM)
Can you move things over....like my chickys history over to the thrally side? If its not to much problems?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 12:01:30 PM)
I cannot, no. But you can copy and paste it into the Demon Histories and Blue Books forum under a title that bears your name and the tag "(thrall)" at the end.
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 12:01:54 PM)
Ah okie dokie! :) Thank you for all the he;[
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 12:01:59 PM)
ergh help*
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:18 PM)
If you have already posted it in the mortal venue, you can just shoot Evil Grinz off an FPM requesting that she delete the forum posting. :)
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:33 PM)
okie dokie :)
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:52 PM)
Was there anything else I could help you with?
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:59 PM)
I sent a FPM to try and get her to see if she could sanc her but no word yet
Ashley Hills (Jun 23, 2011 12:03:08 PM)
No that was it :) thak you so muchg
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 12:03:40 PM)
You are very welcome. Enjoy! :)
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SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:30:31 PM)
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Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:30:36 PM)
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SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:30:41 PM)
Sorry, got lost in the scroll there for a bit *lol*
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:30:44 PM)
All good.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:32:27 PM)
So, here's the thing. I don't actually have a Ravener concept in mind. But, the fact that you're willing to allow one makes me more inclined to discuss various concepts with you guys.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:32:47 PM)
But, yes, anyway. Due to certain character types and ideas, we have revisited the long-bemoaned ban on ravaners here. We are open to the idea of them existing on the site, however, just please be advised. There are very strict limitations on the kind of ravaner you can be. The whole "blow it up, burn it down, salt the earth and urinate on the ashes" kind generally gets frowned upon, and with the demons we have active, is highly probable that you would get hunted down and killed almost the second your character first went IC. Not that we condone that kind of action, but I just want to be frank with you about the possibilities...
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:33:44 PM)
As far as that goes? *shrugs* My Raveners tend to view the whole 'bring about the end of the world' in a more social and metaphysical sense than a literal one.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:34:32 PM)
The Defiler I mentioned previously was Hosted in a Psychotherapist. You can imagine the ramifications, I'm sure...
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:35:16 PM)
Also, if I suddenly get slow and unresponsive... well... I have three kids. *smirks*
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:35:18 PM)
Ah. Well, that actually might work very well, given the venue status that we have now. We also are very happy to work with personal storylines (speaking as one who gladly and gleefully runs said personal storylines *grins*) that allow for a PC to start with one house, then go to a different... Without getting into specifics, there is a slayer that was part of the alabaster legion who is currently unaffiliated and is RP'ing their way to Ravaner...
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:36:04 PM)
*lol* Not a problem. I have a kitten that is... >.> apparently chasing ghosts and goblins and spooks... *sticks foot out, quirks brow when cat clears it with a good 5-feet to spare.... only to go head-first into the DVD collection*...
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:42:41 PM)
What sort of faction specific stuff do you guys have going on?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:43:10 PM)
Like how do you mean?
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:43:37 PM)
Do you have any specific SLs dedicated to factions? Or is it just House or Court based?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:44:55 PM)
We do have a couple of storylines floating around that are house specific. I just had one go onto hiatus due to it not being resolved. I will probably have it revisited sometime later this summer, see if I can get it finished then. :)
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:45:50 PM)
I was just curious because, to my way of thinking, the Cryptics would be interested in the sorts of things that would make Faustians yawn, and vice versa.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:46:14 PM)
I do not know what Ogre has planned, but I remember him talking about doing storylines specific for each house. The other houses are welcome to join in all plots; we are not going to turn players away; but the storylines that are being worked on for later player consumption are going to focus rather heavily on each individual house.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:47:34 PM)
Yes, that is certainly true, in most cases. However, not a lot of our player base sticks to the strictly one- or two-dimensional house rules that are in the books. There is a Faustian in play who, while they think it's better for humans to be the slaves, they still wish to understand why it was that they were betrayed and banished for doing God's will. Does that make sense?
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:48:05 PM)
Totally.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:49:33 PM)
I have always held to the belief that the books have rules, yes, but those rules are meant to be interpreted however best fits the storyline. If the storyline calls for you to make an intelligence + intuition roll in order to figure something out, then I'll call for it. It's not really a roll that's talked about in the book, anywhere, but I use it as a standard for essentially the common sense merit, in case the player doesn't have that.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:50:22 PM)
Well, let me ask you this... what House/Faction combos does the game lack?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:53:08 PM)
We are pretty well covered, with at least one of each house and faction. However, we are a bit heavy on Malefactors; I just did a census count a couple of days ago and found that out. Aside from that, we are pretty evenly spread. Honestly, at this point, with out player base the size that it is, and the very active players vs. the not-so-active players, you can pretty much make whatever your heart really really wants.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:54:57 PM)
Hmm.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 9:55:06 PM)
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Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:55:20 PM)
I've had a concept kicking around in my head for years, but it's just not a chat concept. Sadly.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:55:51 PM)
An artificer who specializes in making 'monkey paws' for Mortals.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:56:40 PM)
Unfortunately, because of the power-level of some of the demonically-crafted items, we cannot sell them to PCs in other venues, or it will upset the balance of each venue.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:57:36 PM)
Hell, not even that. *chuckles* The concept is very ST high maintenance. Each item, every time it is used, generates a completely random stroke of bad luck. Just like the monkey paw in the story.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:57:37 PM)
And we have had to put some restrictions on some of the Malefactor lores. Those are all listed in the forums, if you wish to go look. :)
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 9:58:17 PM)
Other than that, though... I've got nothing in mind for a Demon at the moment. I'd have to think about it.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 9:58:26 PM)
...... Actually, I think we just instated a house rule that does something almost identical to what you are talking about. Just one moment, let me check the forums to make sure I am not misquoting you.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:02:40 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=4091-- http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=4002 -- http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=3566
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:02:57 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=4091
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:03:04 PM)
because the spacebar didn't like the first link
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:03:49 PM)
but those are the three forum postings regarding Malefactors, if that is the route that you wish to go. The resonance system (third link), I believe, has something very similar to what you were refering to. :)
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:04:59 PM)
Hmm. Not exactly. Are you familiar with the story of the monkey's paw? The three wishes?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:05:11 PM)
I'm afraid I am not.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:05:38 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:06:56 PM)
One moment, please, while I read?
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:07:42 PM)
Sure. I'll go check on kids. Heh.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:09:08 PM)
Hm. Interesting. That almost sounds more like a Fiend with a relic created by a malefactor, enhanced by the Fiend, maybe? *ponders*
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:11:30 PM)
Did you ever watch the really old Friday the 13th series on TV? It'd be kinda like that. Items created that do wonderous things, but at a cost. *shrugs* But, there's no actual mechanical system in place for it. Which is why it'd be seriously intensive for the STs.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:13:16 PM)
With relics, such as it sounds like this would be, that would be strictly under the control of Legion, our HST. He has stated (aka: Legion's Law) that he is the only one who will be able to deal with anything that is Lore of the Forge. And, honestly, if there isn't a mechanic in place for it, with the four minds we have on staff, I am sure we can come up with /something/ that is fair to you, realistic to your character concept, and still maintains the balance of the venue so it's fair and fun for everyone. :)
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:14:02 PM)
*chuckles* Given Legion's opinion of me, I don't see getting the go ahead on such an intensive and experimental concept.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:15:05 PM)
*shrugs* If you would like, let me run it by him first, see if he's keen on the idea. My purpose is to act as a go-between for the players and the STs, so we can hammer out all of the nuts and bolts, if Legion seems to like the concept
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:15:49 PM)
Frankly, I think the concept is a really really good idea. We are playing in the World of Darkness, not Twilight: the RPG. And, as such, it would thrill me down to my sheepies toesocks if someone would bring a bit more darkness to the world. :)
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:16:25 PM)
However, would you mind holding for a few minutes? I need to go finish cleaning up the kitchen before it gets too much later... I will only be a couple of mintes.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:16:33 PM)
Sure. If you wanna. Not to seem defeatist or disrespectful, but I expect it'll be a waste of time. I'm all for the darkness (tm), and I'd be interested in giving it a shot, but... Legion and I are like oil and vinegar on a personal level.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:16:54 PM)
Alright. I'll be back on in... half an hour or so- once I get the kids in bed.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:16:59 PM)
Actually Legion leaves all sanctioning to me, and I promise you I don't have vendetta's or favourites :) But I'm not sure how the mechanic would work.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:17:08 PM)
Hey Dusk.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:17:16 PM)
Hey there :)
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:17:24 PM)
Sorry just hiding in the office while I'm modding a scene.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:17:32 PM)
It's not about a vendetta or anything. Just... we'd have to be in close proximity, and I dunno if we'd be able to be civil.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:17:53 PM)
I'll admit my share of the guilt there. He and I just don't get along.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:18:04 PM)
lol well yeah, everyone is expected to be civil to eachother OOC in the Demon venue, that's standard accross the board.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:18:33 PM)
I am sure that Legion would be agreeable to a sit-down meeting to discuss it. Besides, we are here as a peace offering, not just from you to us, but from us to you. And I really and truthfully think that we can come to some kind of agreement. :)
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:18:33 PM)
But, if you guys wanna give the concept a shot, I'm down to try.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:19:36 PM)
Our illustrious HST will be on probably in a few hours. Dusk, if you are ok with this, can I breach the subject with him? Or would you prefer to?
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:21:17 PM)
Sorry I'm slow because I'm modding combat
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:21:19 PM)
As an example of the sorts of things I'm thinking about...
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:21:27 PM)
So we're thinking of a Needful things kinda concept?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:21:54 PM)
He stated it was something more along the lines of the Monkey's Paw myth.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:22:09 PM)
A pistol that does extremely high damage. But, whenever the wielder kills someone with it the wielder loses a HL or dot of Stamina. Basically, the gun drains the user's life force to fuel the magic.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:22:30 PM)
Or, yeah. The Monkey's Paw.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:22:57 PM)
.... >.> HB, have you been digging around on my computer? *gets faintly paranoid*
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:23:21 PM)
A mirror that, when used to apply your make up gives you extra auto successes in seduction, but each time you use it someone in your family suffers a painful injury...
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:23:43 PM)
*thinks* You know I see no reason why that wouldn't work system wise, excepting one ooc consideration.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:24:13 PM)
Honestly? It was less the hard mechanics I was worried about and more the sheer amount of ST oversight and maintenance.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:24:15 PM)
I don't either. In fact, I'm actually very very happy with the concept.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:25:16 PM)
The only thing I'd need for you to be 100% clear on is that relics stay in the demon venue.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:25:30 PM)
See... can I be totally honest?
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:25:35 PM)
They would have to, or the other HSTs will get very very unhappy with the lot of us...
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:25:37 PM)
And are only to be distrubuted to pc's that are either demons, thralls or demon venue thralls.
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:25:39 PM)
Please, do.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:25:47 PM)
I can see no other Supernaturals, of course. But... Mortals? That'd be his bread and butter.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:26:20 PM)
Obviously the Mortal venue characters would have to be aware, OOC, that they'd be getting involved in the Demon venue, but... *shrugs*
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:26:22 PM)
We actually have a rather large number of "mortals" in the demon venue, who are tagged just for the demon venue. Basically, they are thralls waiting for someone to grab them.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:26:42 PM)
To save crossover nightmares we have mortals generally sanctioned into the venue they want to go into. So you'll note that a lot of mortals will have [demon venue] tagged in their equip
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:26:47 PM)
Alright...
SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:26:49 PM)
Ok, I really really need to go get the kitchen cleaned up. I will be back shortly.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 10:27:24 PM)
hence you could sell to demon venue mortals. But other mortals, you couldn't, otherwise they get ghouled, awaken etc and we have relics going cross venue which is a big no no.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:27:31 PM)
Alright. I gotta wrangle kids towards bed, myself. So... *salutes*
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:27:39 PM)
Be back within the hour.
Hellbilly OOC (Jun 23, 2011 10:28:12 PM)
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SerenePrincess (Jun 23, 2011 10:28:23 PM)
Gonna leave this open for when he returns.
Dusk (Jun 23, 2011 11:01:47 PM)
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