Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:09:11 AM)
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Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:09:47 AM)
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Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:11:20 AM)
*once him and his alpha were in the room he turned to look at him* I wanted to have this conversation with you and wasabe, but it seems wasabe does not want to speak. So here it is, I tried to sit and talk with star yesterday for hours I tried to learn why she is the way she is, and why she does the things she does. Durring our conversation i asked her about john and mai and there request for star to join them in a threesome.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:12:52 AM)
*he gives a small nod as he listened.*

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:12:54 AM)
I tried to find out if it was john whom was pushing mai to do the threesome with star. What i found was he was pushing the threesome, but mai didnt want to have a threesome with john she only wanted to fuck star alone. Star says mai made this clear when she was kissing her and trying to get star to sleep with her when john was not around, but that star told her no because she did not want to get in more trouble or to further hurt her own mate david

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:13:49 AM)
And so mai wants to sleep with star, but star is trying to stay out of trouble and refused her advances.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:14:20 AM)
*He frowns deeply and crossed his arms.* Seems Mai needs to have a talking to as well.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:16:01 AM)
*He nodded his head* i wanted to bring this to you and wasabe both, you being the alpha and he being her guardian, and because he was so pissed that i just assume shit without facts, and that i don't treat star good enough, that i attempted to understand her, and the situation better. But he will not respond to my pack links, so there is no way of me letting him know I did try to do as he asked.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:16:17 AM)
Perhaps you can tell him since you seem to be the only one he communicates with.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:16:50 AM)
Tell sarah if you like as well she is your tribemate, but i wasnt gonna tell anyone but you two. Its your bussiness..

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:19:14 AM)
(??)

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:19:30 AM)
*he nods* I thank you for being this to me.

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:20:01 AM)
*he nodded his head then moved towards the door* ill tell sarah to come in now..

Jeremy Meers (Sep 29, 2010 12:20:13 AM)
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Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:20:59 AM)
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Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:21:28 AM)
Did Wasabe inform you how Mai was found?

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:23:49 AM)
*she looks around at the back room*

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:23:50 AM)
I was told that she was picked up after getting out of a room that was locked.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:25:07 AM)
She called Lukas of the Fenrir by text message. She said she was locked in a room of the apartment, needed help getting out. Lukas, not knowing completely what to do ran it by myself, Tristan, And Andy. Concerned we came along.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:26:10 AM)
Upon arrival she was indeed locked in the bedroom. I did the ragabash thing and wala. Her husband John was passed out on the bed in the same room. Not knowing what to make of this.....we talked to Mai outside.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:26:22 AM)
*he nods as he listens.* I see..

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:28:32 AM)
She said she didn't want to wake up John...........actually she was down right AFRAID of us waking him. Tell me Ciqala, why does a kinfolk call someone to help her get out of a locked room....when her husband is right next to her sleeping on the bed? Why not wake him and get a key? She claims she went down for a nap, when she woke up he was passed out and the door was "jammed" as she called it. Where is the logic in this ...under normal cirmstances you just wake up hubby and deal with a door jam right?

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:29:55 AM)
I studied those door locks. After market additions, made to be locked on either side by a key. What sort of apartment has aftermarket locks added to a bedroom door so it can be locked from the outside? I didn't like that little fact.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:30:12 AM)
That would be the normal reasoning. You think as well as I do that John has done something to her.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:32:12 AM)
Not physically.....I don't think hes touched her again. But mentally? FEAR off her was so tangible it almost made me sick. And she wasn't afraid of us too much. Yet if you ask her about it she'll get evasive. Why was she SO afraid of waking John she called a .....Fenrir to assist her? Lukas is a nice enough fellow for a Fenrir...honorable and all that. But still.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:33:22 AM)
Well....an air spirit followed me. I did what I was ordered to do....took care of the situation and dispatched the spirit to report to Grandmother.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:33:24 AM)
Fear does odd things to people.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:33:54 AM)
We got her out of there....stopped by the Voodoo Crawfish to settle Mai down and called Wasabe.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:34:48 AM)
Grandmother said....."As Mai knows fear...so shall John".......and I think hes comotose in the hospital now because Grandmother chose to deal with it. She put the whammy on him.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:34:57 AM)
Curse....shamon shit whatever.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:36:13 AM)
I see...so John is in the hospital because of what you think grandmother has done?

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:38:33 AM)
Mai does love John but it's not a healthy thing. I do think hes mentally doing.....something to that girl. Browbeating her when he gets bad at the very least. You ask Mai she will run back to him. Just not sure if it's right. And yes................Grandmother said to me if John beat up on Mai again he'd be lucky to survive. I reported truthfully she'd not been touched, but was very afraid. Despite her saying ...well the weak excuses she says. I reported the fear and the situation....the spirit messenger simply said "As Mai knows fear so will he"....and that was it.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:38:47 AM)
Bad=mad

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:39:28 AM)
...........So yes....him being hospitalized? Definately Grandmother.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:39:44 AM)
*he nods* And what else should we do?

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:39:51 AM)
I don't know.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:39:55 AM)
*sits*

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:40:55 AM)
I went to aid a kinfolk...saw shit. Did what I thought best to help. Sent a message to the elders for orders...thats it. I think we need further instructions from Grandmother.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:41:08 AM)
For now I guess have Mai remain with Wasabe.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:42:30 AM)
You tell me? Would it do good or harm to let her see him?

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:42:37 AM)
I don't have all the answers.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:42:53 AM)
I do need to let you in one thing I have found out. John and Mai tried to get Star into a three way. Star refused and John left. Mai continued to push the issue going so far as to kiss Star and saying she only wanted Star not a threeway. But this is all second and third hand info that Star told to Jeremy and then Jeremy brought to me.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:43:39 AM)
... Thats a sign of good judgement from Star.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:44:08 AM)
*he nods* I hope so.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:44:38 AM)
I'm sorry Ciqala...your pack certainly got the sick branch of the tree by taking guardianship of those two.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:45:09 AM)
*He shakes his head and smiles.* It happens and we try to fix it.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:46:36 AM)
If you do let Mai visit John...don't let her go alone. Personally? If I were Wasabe, and yourself I'd ask Grandmother how you should procede. But thats just me. In the end those two are still your wards. I'm just the fostern trying to help.....but with them I'm not sure how to help.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:46:55 AM)
I tried to keep Hilma out of their lives and yours. My attempts failed.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:47:24 AM)
Now I'm just middle management following orders.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:47:33 AM)
I will see what we can do. This is a strange situation

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:48:36 AM)
Ciqala Grandmother was so angry she made a voodoo doll.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:48:51 AM)
((see level 5 Uktena elder gift.....yeah...nasty))

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:49:23 AM)
Yes...thats how I think she struck at John. You don't screw with elder shamons.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:50:36 AM)
Now my question is....should I tell your pack that?

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:53:43 AM)
*Shakes his head.* No, I don't think it needs to be told.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:56:28 AM)
Should I say that his...condition is induced by Grandmother?

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:56:58 AM)
They certainly don't need to know....how.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:57:31 AM)
I do not think they need to know that either, but it might be best to move him from the hospital.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:57:55 AM)
I doubt it matters.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:58:03 AM)
But you can if you like.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:58:24 AM)
Tell Wasabe though...

Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 12:58:28 AM)
I will

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 12:58:38 AM)
OK lets go back out there then.

Sarah Runningfox (Sep 29, 2010 1:00:02 AM)
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Ciqala Ohanzee (Sep 29, 2010 1:00:25 AM)
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