Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 4:54:12 PM)
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Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 4:56:23 PM)
Alright let me finished reading and get my thoughts together on this.
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 4:56:30 PM)
I am trying to get PeachesCat on too
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 4:57:37 PM)
take your time, I would like to open with this is in NO WAY an attempt to game breaker....or pker, and i realize he will likely die for being rpd properly or destroyed by humaniuty 0
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 4:58:18 PM)
Yeah but I still have to anticipate that he will survive long enough and therefore he needs to be balanced for the game
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 4:58:34 PM)
So lets start as I can't get ahold of PC
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 4:59:50 PM)
fair enough
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:01:44 PM)
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Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:01:49 PM)
WOOT WOOT
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:01:57 PM)
I here =-)
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:02:39 PM)
First things. Subterfuge 4.... needs to be lowered to 3... it appears to be a min max and you need to have available points for other things. Performance... you wanna appear to be caring (per your BG) you need performance. Occult 4 ... he's 25 years old and honestly I don't he's gained enough Occult knowledge in the 7 years he's been embraced to have aquired such a vast knowledge of the Occult and it's magics. Flaw Short Fuse doesn't fit the character. Reasoning: He's trying to "Fake" fitting in and with that flaw he would fly off the handle before he could even think about getting himself under control.
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:03:34 PM)
These are the first things that jumped out at me.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:03:51 PM)
right but hes a sociopath, it completely fits
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:04:50 PM)
ill lower his subterfuge and and occult, because im not attempting to cause problems, and hes not a performer hes a manipulater
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:05:18 PM)
but manipulation 4 was shot down last night
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:05:26 PM)
But he needs to have the ability to fake it.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:05:40 PM)
hence the subterfuge, that would be faking
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:05:41 PM)
Without that the Regeant will kill him or he would have died in Savanna
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:05:51 PM)
no that's lying...
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:06:02 PM)
that is when your specifically being questioned
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:06:25 PM)
or gossiping, or controlling someone, being two faced ect
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:06:35 PM)
but when your being oberserved from an outside source not directly interacting with you then you need to have the preformance to hide your true self
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:06:43 PM)
You ever watch Dexter?
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:06:53 PM)
but its chill ill gladly lower them Yep, great motivation
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:07:03 PM)
think of it like acting...
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:07:08 PM)
sold
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:07:26 PM)
Exactly he was super Manipulative, and had High Subertufuge but he also had Performance so that he could fake caring and fitting in
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:07:50 PM)
you as a starting character have fewer points to spend then he does LOL
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:07:50 PM)
totally chill with that
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:07:59 PM)
so therefore you have to pick and choose where they go.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:08:52 PM)
guys ive gotta bounce very shortly to run to the packi for just a min....it will be about a 15 min interum, is that okl?
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:09:19 PM)
fuck more like 30
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:09:21 PM)
Short Fuse.... this implies the inability to control your actions... Elliot seems like the kind that would push his girlfriend off the porch drunk simply because he would want to see what would happen. Now you with that Flaw won't have any control if someone gets in his face.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:09:43 PM)
hes got self control 4 he fights to control it
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:09:53 PM)
but if i lose it and drop the dot its chill
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:10:14 PM)
We can wait for you to get back
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:10:30 PM)
thanks guys im sorry, it will be 30mins ish, i PROMISE i will be back
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:30:13 PM)
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PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:33:00 PM)
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PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:33:08 PM)
sorry
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:33:14 PM)
it's okay
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:34:11 PM)
So okay the changes I asked for were just things that you will gain with experience. Anytime something looks odd... 2 Alertness, 4 Subterfuge and no other points in that tree... that's really min maxing
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:34:55 PM)
got ya
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:35:45 PM)
4's in Abilities need to be really justified in a Background.. I need to walk away reading that and look at your sheet and go... hey why doesn't he have a 4 in that ability his BG really justified it.
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:35:56 PM)
When the BG is weak... 4's arn't gonna fly
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:36:24 PM)
it also needs to fit the concept of the character
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:36:56 PM)
the subterfuge i thought did at least to me it did
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:37:47 PM)
his Concept is Thaumaturgical Protigy... yet he was only embraced 7 years ago so while he could be a Protigy he's still not nearly as knowledgeable as someone who's had hundreds of years to study the Occult
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:38:05 PM)
It might have fit the BG but then it fell under the Mix / Max
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:38:34 PM)
having a 4 in a talent and only have 2 other points in the entire tree... is min maxing
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:38:51 PM)
got ya
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:39:46 PM)
that's like having Charisma 1, Manipulation 4, Appearance 1
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:39:49 PM)
that's min maxing
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:40:19 PM)
and doesn't really matter what your BG say's that's not gonna pass
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:41:01 PM)
But other then those few small things the two 4's really the only things left were minor in comparrisson
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:41:20 PM)
umderstandable
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:41:39 PM)
so was a pretty good pre-sanction and as you do more of them and full sanctions you get a flow and get a feeling for what you can and can't let through
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:42:09 PM)
got ya and thanks
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:42:32 PM)
and who you can let have some of thsoe..... questionable charactistics
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:42:33 PM)
i didnt look at the mix/max thing will note that next time
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:42:34 PM)
my bad
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:42:37 PM)
those who won't abuse them
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:42:42 PM)
amen to that
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:43:22 PM)
Clayfeet.. isn't someone I would say is a outstanding player and I wouldn't have a problem giving some perks to
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:04 PM)
yeah why i left it as is..but should have fixed the subterfuge for sure
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:32 PM)
Now something else to look at when you sanction a character. Don't be afraid to reward them for a very well thought out, well written, original concept character
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:37 PM)
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Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:40 PM)
sorry
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:41 PM)
WB
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:46 PM)
ty muchly
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:44:48 PM)
wb
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:45:23 PM)
Alright so we have been talking while you were off playing with yourself.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:45:24 PM)
kk back to buisness
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:45:37 PM)
LOL my peep hurts, thats nothing to mock
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:45:39 PM)
I need a page number for Attuned taste
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:45:44 PM)
FUCK
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:45:56 PM)
im not on my labtop, its in the merits and flaws section of hte tremere revised
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:46:24 PM)
that makes it quicker then me looking through dozens of books
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:46:41 PM)
it fucntions as lvl1 thaumaturgy as something you automatically understand from a taste, In elliots case it tells the subjects EXACT age
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:46:52 PM)
and i totally forgot where it was from lastnight..my bad
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:47:08 PM)
its no prob lol
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:47:21 PM)
its tremere i should not forget!*head desk*
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:47:33 PM)
and hey, im down with losing occult to 3 same as my subterfuge
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:47:58 PM)
because his concept is still pretty well upkept thataway
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:53:23 PM)
Alright... we spoke some and decided to let you keep Short Fuse also.
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:53:39 PM)
Know that you will be expected to play out your Flaws just as much as anyone else.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:53:55 PM)
BLINKS you know i will, there will be plenty of frenzychecks going on
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:54:53 PM)
he will also be one HELL of a monomanical ranter
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:54:59 PM)
Alrigth... Subterfuge to 3, Occult to 3, and Performance to 2
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:07 PM)
sold
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:13 PM)
question
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:20 PM)
oh
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:23 PM)
and your BG
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:27 PM)
this needs to get removed from it
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:29 PM)
Something that tickled inqiring elders pink when he was inteviewd after the death of his sire. An unstable monstrosity for sure, but also an asset to clan Tremere. But Im getting ahead of myself.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:33 PM)
WOOPS
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:39 PM)
*glares*
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:42 PM)
or whatever but that can't be in there.
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:46 PM)
i thought i fixed it up...it was very late
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:55:57 PM)
peaches i tried!
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:04 PM)
Its all good,it was super late
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:08 PM)
*does the walking on his knees begging for forgivness*
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:16 PM)
So fix that so I can lock the post
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:20 PM)
shoo go fixx
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:21 PM)
kk im gonna
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:24 PM)
and I will get to editing your sheet
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:56:58 PM)
oh
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:57:00 PM)
OH i want prestegious sire 1pt, because hes riding on daddymans coatails....and was wondering if you guys could suggest a 1pt flaw that would work
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:57:25 PM)
and your Language.. Enochian... it's really not gonna come into play often and I see it as more of a written lanaguage and not a spoken one
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:57:34 PM)
you can have it just wanted to give you the option to change it
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:57:58 PM)
Sumarian
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:58:02 PM)
instead of enochian
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:58:05 PM)
yeah no your Sire isn't Prestegious enough through the ENTIRE vampire nation to warrant that
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:58:12 PM)
kk
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 5:58:15 PM)
and he would need to be here for you to have it
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:58:43 PM)
k cool
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 5:59:02 PM)
and that wont happen, the tremere have had enough of me playing a well rooted mage
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:00:13 PM)
ah
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:00:23 PM)
Beyonce... does NOT leave the Chantry
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:00:25 PM)
period
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:00:48 PM)
if you ever have her out... you will be subject to all laws that can be brought against your person
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:00:55 PM)
be them Mortal... or Kindred
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:02:31 PM)
gotcha
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:02:44 PM)
Alright edit the background then log out and get your icon
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:04:46 PM)
edited
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:05:15 PM)
waiting on ya
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:05:39 PM)
because i dont want my stuffs until you see its good
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:03 PM)
looks good you just cut that line out about him being dead from what I can see
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:12 PM)
yessir
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:12 PM)
and I can take a icon as fast as I giv eone
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:15 PM)
faster actually
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:18 PM)
LOL
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:19 PM)
since I don't need you on
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:35 PM)
Alright your done
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:37 PM)
Tremere hater!
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:41 PM)
yup
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:42 PM)
WOOT!!!!
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:52 PM)
I give the character 3 days
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:06:54 PM)
*nods*
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:07:00 PM)
Before I have to do something to kill it
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:07:03 PM)
lol
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:07:15 PM)
im not here tpo gamebreak, only make the happy fluffy kiundred holding hands reevaluagte their ways
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:07:18 PM)
lol
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:07:40 PM)
damn my spelling
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:07:50 PM)
PC you have any aspirations to rp?
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:08:01 PM)
brb
Elliot Truce (Sep 12, 2011 6:08:02 PM)
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PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:08:06 PM)
grrrrr
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:08:59 PM)
lol
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:09:10 PM)
alright put this in the scene tracker
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:09:26 PM)
okay
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:09:32 PM)
just for vamp correct?
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:09:46 PM)
what time you guys start?
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:10:52 PM)
345pm CST
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:10:56 PM)
I added your name
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:11:02 PM)
oh you did it okay
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:11:05 PM)
so you don't have to worry about it and no I did it for both
PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:11:05 PM)
i was gonna do it
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:11:30 PM)
I just Cut and Paste it into both so I don't have to retype it
Menthril (Sep 12, 2011 6:11:38 PM)
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PeachesCat (Sep 12, 2011 6:11:43 PM)
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