SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 9:55:44 PM)
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Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 9:59:30 PM)
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Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 9:59:57 PM)
Sorry

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:00:04 PM)
Did not see I was supposed to follow you

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:00:36 PM)
Well Apparently I have to list every single Item I own on my profile sheet. I own a junkyard and don't understand why I should have to list hundreds of items that would take forever

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:02:26 PM)
I am working on the url that he has never looked at. He sanctioned me without ever reading my background and I was 16 for the first two weeks before realizing I could not be. There was a scene last week were Nick left an establishment and drew out a handgun and put it in his lap. On the 24th-29th I sent 3 FPM to Deschain asking him if I could have a gun. He told me in pm one day on here he would add it to my sheet and it was fgine to have. Since I am 18. I never put one on there since it was illegal as he was planned to be 16

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:03:21 PM)
So he simply told me if I ever do it again I am metagaming and he will remove my icon.. He does not listen to me or over me any help just demands stuff of me. Yesterday he sent me this pm message then poofed. "We need to talk Nick. Be on tommorow".

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:03:40 PM)
okay, what did he want to talk to you about?

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:03:50 PM)
He never told me a time just demanded I wait around all day. the gun issue

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:04:18 PM)
On the 15th of last month he agreed to work with me on creating my junkyard security. HE has not come forward and done so at all/

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:05:14 PM)
Also he took away my Node on my sheet the first day I was here cause he said I could not have one and gave me a wonder, Etherite battery I think. THen he did not put it on my sheet and did not even ask me if thats what I wanted he just added it

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:05:27 PM)
I can't find this wonder in any book and have no idea what this actually doeas.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:07:02 PM)
Now I am not innocent. I make mistakes cause I don't understand what I am supposed to be doing. I love Nick and jhe is the only mage I want to play. I dont play Wta and Vtm cause they arent games for me. So I think my only option is to just quit the site. i hate having to whine and bitch and sound retarded but I can''t even talk to Deschain anymore because all he does is demand stuff of me and then whine if I talk to him. Of course I am usually pissed at him because he doesn't do anything.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:07:35 PM)
Let me ask this, have you tried asking the other ST for help- SnowCrane?

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:07:39 PM)
in terms of understanding the game

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:07:42 PM)
I just met snowcrane today

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:07:58 PM)
she has only been an st for a week

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:08:10 PM)
bit longer but yes she's recent

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:08:22 PM)
and she has been busy today but I have talked to her and she is going to talk to me tommorow

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:08:29 PM)
But I still have to deal with Deschain

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:08:51 PM)
well yes, i'm not negating what you're saying, it was just a thought

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:09:00 PM)
and I am sick of him playing favorites. Also how in the hell is Cas brimley an akashic brotherhood with no Do. She has 00000000 DO.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:09:08 PM)
Signal Craven

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:09:10 PM)
Umm lol

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:09:12 PM)
Snow Craven

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:09:49 PM)
Is a very nice lady and I think she could help me. The problem is I would still have to deal wit hDeschains. He plays favorites and is a lousy st. I am staring to think he does not know how to run mage.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:10:20 PM)
I cant comment re: Cas Brimley mostly because i dont know

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:10:34 PM)
I mean I understand being busy irl but make Snow Craven the HST and make him AST and maybe it would work out better for him. I feel weak, underpowered, useless, and like no one is listening to me.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:11:16 PM)
I have caught Deschain in lies to my face. I don't remember all of them. Just the scene request one is the most recent. I brim up Cas because a good friend of mine on here Chandi (akashich magey) has been bringing it to Deschain's attention for two weeks.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:11:41 PM)
How am I supposed to deal with an St who I feel is bad mouthing me, treating me like shit, ignoring me and playing favorites?

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:11:50 PM)
Should I just quit the site?

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:12:06 PM)
No, you need to however, be able to show me some screenshots, or some logs, of this.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:12:19 PM)
because otherwise it's he said/she said kind of stuff. that is if yo'ure staying.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:12:44 PM)
i mean, trust me, i 'm hearing you, but anything to show me what deschain is doing would be immensely helpful (that's pretty much standard for all complaints)

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:13:24 PM)
Yeah hear is the other thing

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:13:31 PM)
I just learned how to screenshot 3 days ago

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:13:32 PM)
:(

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:13:54 PM)
I had never heard of it before. Plus he poofs in the middle of messages which sometimes make screenshotting difficult

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:14:01 PM)
But I will ne screenshotting in the future

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:14:05 PM)
I would of tonight but he poofed

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:14:24 PM)
plus I am scared to talk to him cause he can just poof me. I am afraid to speak my mind because he is so corrupt

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:14:51 PM)
Since I will never get screenshots since mostly all he does is ignore me. I think I should just quit the mage venue

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:16:25 PM)
well, for your knowledge i guess

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:16:36 PM)
i can pull logs of anything that is not a PM. i have to know room name and day to do it though.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:16:46 PM)
we mostly talk in PM's

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:17:20 PM)
Ah. Well, i'm not quite sure what to tell you, other than 1. i'm not brushing this off, but evidence would help

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:17:26 PM)
I sent him numerous FPM but he might of deleted them

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:17:35 PM)
Well I will be brining you more evidence cause

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:17:38 PM)
2. if you do stay, you might want to talk to snowcrane re: getting an understanding of the venue and what's expected.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:17:52 PM)
But I would like my damn xp request done

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:18:02 PM)
I have waited 12 days for somethign that was promised to me 12 days ago

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:19:57 PM)
I will ask him about that myself then.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:20:04 PM)
Honestly I have no rp except for the TT game I run once a week so I will stay and bring you more evidence but I don't want to talk to him right now

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:20:20 PM)
but like i said- evidence is utterly helpful. i hope you understand why

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:20:23 PM)
I mean I just feel so out classed here and I hate to say he said she said and such I understand

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:20:40 PM)
I know evidence is helpful But I had no idea about how to do screenshots until 3 days ago

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:21:06 PM)
no, that's . understandable, you know how now right?

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:21:40 PM)
on my laptop

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:21:42 PM)
only

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:22:03 PM)
I like about 4 mages from this site so will stay

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:22:27 PM)
But ...

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:22:40 PM)
I know nothing will happen to deschain since everyone defends him

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:22:47 PM)
and no one listenbs to me

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:22:56 PM)
Snow crane sides with him automatically without listening to me

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:23:43 PM)
Also Nick- re your XP request. i just found it

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:23:50 PM)
it's not being ignored, snowcrane asked you for justification.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:24:00 PM)
if you want an example of an XP request i'm sure we can find one for you

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:24:12 PM)
Deschain approved it in pm;'s

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:24:24 PM)
we had a lengthy discussion then he told me to post the xp request there just for records

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:24:50 PM)
Snow Crane told me I need to have ic logs and screenshots and I Don't understand what she means. I aint goiong to sit in a room and rp by myself

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:25:08 PM)
So I got pissed at her cause she said she would never approve my xp request

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:25:17 PM)
even thouigh it was already approved by Deschain

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:26:04 PM)
Okay, i will mention this to Deschain, but here is how this goes

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:26:10 PM)
I am listening

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:26:14 PM)
and this is true for every venue we have. justification must go int the XP thread

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:26:29 PM)
and you should probably have used it ICly with other folks (obviously dependingo n what it is) to justify higher dots

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:26:51 PM)
so i would fill out the justification, if you want the XP done, in that thread.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:26:57 PM)
what is a blue book I keep hearing about

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:01 PM)
I have no idea what those are

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:05 PM)
a bluebook is a narrative that you write

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:18 PM)
... So I am supposed to write out what I am doing to raise those

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:20 PM)
about your character in down time or outside of scene

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:25 PM)
yes

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:29 PM)
bluebooks can be linked to as justification

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:38 PM)
Nick is a full time college student who spends a lot of time in his lab expermenting wit htechnology

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:45 PM)
like, ah, let me give a for instance, lets say i had a werewolf. and i wanted to justify buying him ancestors

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:27:49 PM)
I did all that in pm with Deschain and he said it was fine

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:03 PM)
i might write several stories about wierd dreams, odd voices, and things like that happenign to him

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:12 PM)
He never told me to post that shit in the xp request.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:15 PM)
and i might write some stories about who the ancstors are.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:24 PM)
well he should have and i'll make sure that that's what's going on

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:28 PM)
Why would I write stories about ancestors and voices he is not going crazy

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:31 PM)
because that's how it is for everyone for record keeping

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:40 PM)
no, nick, i'm saying if *i* wanted to buy ancestors for a garou.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:45 PM)
OH LOL

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:28:48 PM)
I missed that part

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:29:06 PM)
riight.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:29:06 PM)
Ok well in the future all xp request will be put in blue books

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:29:16 PM)
no no. okay. i'm not explaining

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:29:23 PM)
i suppose i will get examples up, but let me give you some for instances

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:29:30 PM)
I plan on raising matter next so me and snow crane are gonna talk tommorow about how I do this

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:29:34 PM)
so say in my history/bluebook thread i write all these stories about ancestors etc.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:30:44 PM)
Ok

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:30:47 PM)
in my XP request i would say something like this - Ancestors 1 (3 XP) - Justification - My character's ancestors have been taking an interest lately in him for , and because of their thoughts on they've started to speak to him. There's more information on them and the dreams my character has been having

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:04 PM)
I understand

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:10 PM)
So where do blue books go

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:12 PM)
you dont have to bluebook, but it helps. i could also isntead reference scenes- like, I want Brawl 2 because my garou kicked wyrm ass in this scene, that scene, and the other

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:14 PM)
in your history thread

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:20 PM)
where you put your characters history, you reply to that one

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:26 PM)
I have a history thread lol

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:39 PM)
I have no idea how to raise spheres but am hoping Snow Crane will help me

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:31:55 PM)
I would ask, yes. i'd tell you myself but mage is a bit ..fuzzy for me

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:32:05 PM)
it's not one of the games i'm often a player in.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:00 PM)
Right well

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:13 PM)
I know I can't go to snow crane with help with Deschain

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:16 PM)
you could also ask Tohunga, the new mage ST we hired today

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:21 PM)
and honestly, here's what i would do if i was you

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:21 PM)
because they are friends

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:26 PM)
screenshot things

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:33 PM)
I don't trust any mage st's right now. I will screenshot

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:37 PM)
and make yourself a case. and honestly, being polite never hurts

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:37 PM)
they all work for deschain

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:49 PM)
even if you're furious with Deschain- it's not going to *help* you to do otherwise.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:50 PM)
.....I was not being mean

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:33:54 PM)
I'm not saying you were

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:34:04 PM)
i'm just reminding you

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:34:08 PM)
I just cant talk to Deschain he never listens to me

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:17 PM)
Well thanks for listening to me

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:23 PM)
I am sorry I have no evidence for you

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:25 PM)
Np, it's what admins are here for

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:29 PM)
and i'm glad you get why i need that.

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:38 PM)
so if that's all you need, i'm going to get onto the rest of my to do list

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:43 PM)
ok?

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:50 PM)
Could you just do my xp request please]

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:56 PM)
Well, no.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:35:58 PM)
so I can transfer Nick..

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:01 PM)
But that's because admins dont do XP

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:13 PM)
one of the mage STs really does need to do it

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:16 PM)
and transfer?

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:17 PM)
All I want is my xp request done so I can transfer Nick to another site

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:28 PM)
I can't play mage on here anymore

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:32 PM)
right, i would add some justification to it. like i said above

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:36:37 PM)
in the thread, not over PMs or FPMs

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:37:42 PM)
I alreayd justified it with Deschain

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:37:49 PM)
then put that justiication in the thread

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:37:50 PM)
I don't know what to type it

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:37:52 PM)
so snowcrane can look at it.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:37:58 PM)
we have a 12 minute conversation

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:38:07 PM)
I told snowcrane my justification she said no

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:38:11 PM)
she would never allow it

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:38:45 PM)
I will just tell Deschain to do it when I see him. Bu tthanks for your help . I guess this was a waste of time

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:39:03 PM)
I did not know how to screenshot until 3 days ago. So did not know how to bring you evidence

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:39:17 PM)
And it's not a waste of time

SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 10:39:26 PM)
but alright.

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:39:37 PM)
*Sighs* Sorry to waste your time

Nicholas 'Nick' Hellerman (Aug 10, 2010 10:39:41 PM)
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SignalDancer (Aug 10, 2010 11:03:52 PM)
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