Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:37:13 PM)
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Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:41:19 PM)
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Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:41:55 PM)
that will work.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:42:04 PM)
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Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:42:30 PM)
who do we need here?

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:43:37 PM)
a lot more people are part of the pack but the only ones that are active are the alpha beta and thier mates. along with star before she went off to reconditioning

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:45:09 PM)
well, Star won't be around for quite a few months to be honest.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:45:20 PM)
If at all

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:45:33 PM)
Will Ciqala be here?

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:46:09 PM)
*nods* I know she will not and I am not sure I am trying to get a hold of him to see if he can join us

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 10:46:39 PM)
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Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:46:39 PM)
ok thanks.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:46:46 PM)
there we are.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:47:06 PM)
This the ones we can count on then?

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 10:47:22 PM)
yeah, the rest are almost never on

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:47:28 PM)
ok then

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:47:38 PM)
*nods* but ciqala cant be on long he is very sleepy and i think has work in the morning..

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:47:43 PM)
ok.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:47:50 PM)
Well I'll try to make it quick.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:48:20 PM)
I had a talk with ghostlin over the Redemption Pack issues.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:49:06 PM)
I heard some through the grapevine, and wanted to see if there was some outstanding things that wasn't covered.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:49:45 PM)
what was discused so we know what to bring up

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:49:59 PM)
I do nto want to rant about things you already have herd about

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:50:32 PM)
Quite a bit of things. Im just organizing my notes at the moment. So feel free with the rant.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:54:33 PM)
ok I guess formost for me is I was told byt saph that we were her pack and she would be dealing with our things, but that has so far ment adding people to the pack and defining our totem. Nothing else. When we want a scen we have to harras her to get one done and by we I mean Jeremys player. I do not believe we should have to fill somones fpm box up to get a scene. a simple hey we would like a pack scen should work enough

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:55:42 PM)
Ok, that was on the list. Two points really.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:56:08 PM)
There's really 2 major concerns here.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:57:04 PM)
First is the Totem. It's a non-canon bat totem which none of the rest of the STs really have any control over what has been happening with it, or the pack that follows it. As such, Saphirra is really the only one that's been qualified to do pretty much anything for you.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:57:52 PM)
Do the other st's not have notes about what the totem stands for or acts like?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:58:40 PM)
Not at all. Most of the information we heard was from you guys. Which Saphirra (intentionally or not) didn't share the forum password with us.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 10:58:56 PM)
or any kind of information that they would beable to use to play the totem or know how to forulate a scen with?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 10:59:57 PM)
Pretty much anything... She formulated her special totem, with huge ambition for some epic followup, but for what ever reason she didn't follow through with continuation as far as I know.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:00:20 PM)
really? wtf? and the Hst just let her do this and did not threaten disapline actions or anything like that for effectivly shutting off a whole pack from the rest of the venue?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:00:43 PM)
Well let me get to that here.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:00:49 PM)
Thing One:stuck with a Packmate of Epice Faliure Thing Two:Unable to to get anything done and told "blue book it" Thing Three:Dissapearence of Certain Pack members whom refused to deal with Thing One.. Thing Four: Constant harassing for st attension can happen once in awhile, but add into it that the constant harassing was either answered with "blue book" or "tell me what you would like to be run for your totem progression" Then there was the whole.. Change totem like octomom changes diapers.. One day it had this ban the next it was another, and so on and so forth, we would go in there and it would be a edited version of what it was a week ago, and when we brought it up to her it was.. "no it was always like that" and i would be like "no it wasnt"

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:01:36 PM)
we have not had any scenes to deal with furthering the pack or totems goals

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:01:40 PM)
there's quite a few things I want to bring up. And see your views on them. Please excuse my language here with these.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:01:52 PM)
*Sticking players in situations they cannot get out of is dickish. *Sticking players with packmembers they don't like is dickish. *Changing their Totem over several different occasions was dickish *Killing off bat is an option, but the players don't want that.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:02:04 PM)
Am I pretty accurate with those?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:02:32 PM)
So flat out lie to my face and make me think im loosing my marbles is not acceptible behavior for a st as far as I am conceared.. Let me know you had to change it because of what ever reason, but bold faced lies is "unacceptable from staff"

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:02 PM)
I was thinking how is the shadow lord bat different then ours maybe we could just sitch or something.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:18 PM)
well that's in a possible resolution.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:27 PM)
More issues brought up here.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:35 PM)
*STs won't run scenes for them due to the non-canon Bat Totem except for Saphirra

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:46 PM)
*Saphirra didn't follow through with that pack and they are feeling rather dicked over. *Players are very unhappy they haven't gotten scenes.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:49 PM)
need batteries for the keyboard brb

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:03:55 PM)
ok.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:04:08 PM)
Are we all in agreeance with those stated here?

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:07:24 PM)
yes I believe so, and yes I think maybe having the SL totem take in the totem we have and take us as hers. we would still be under bat and it makes us canon but I would love to not loose the gifts or access to the gifts Our totem gives us

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:07:27 PM)
Yeah if you want to use the word "unhappy" i find it a utter understatement on my own feelings towards the entire thing

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:07:47 PM)
Yeah

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:07:50 PM)
check

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:08:07 PM)
Im guessing "Royally Pissed Off" is a better word

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:08:59 PM)
yeah that is better suited for how we feel. It felt like we went off the deep end and have not been provided with a safety net

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:09:03 PM)
Royally don't really fit me, im more guetto then that. But it is closer to the emotional reaction none the less.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:09:21 PM)
One thing I'd like to point out to you folks here that you aren't the only pack that hasn't been getting scenes.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:10:19 PM)
Definately not the only pack not getting scenes i will atest to that

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:10:21 PM)
however

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:10:47 PM)
We have had none since 3 weeks before the death of jeremy when the fang galliard was added

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:10:49 PM)
I understand that but we have only had the one scene where we were made and then two follow up ones to add members. that is it. the only other one that was for the pack was nto actually for the pack and we lost a pack memberdue to in my opinon the stupidest plot hook that woudl never happe in cannon

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:11:22 PM)
Yes and the only scenes we ever have had as a pack

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:11:27 PM)
was to add a member to the pack

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:11:34 PM)
then nothing unless we added a member

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:12:01 PM)
It's not our fault entirely, Saphirra included. Sure when you were ronin they weren't able to join the sept. You lost tribe icons on July 30th, and recieved them again on the August 15th. This is only 2 weeks where you couldn't join scenes. It is not our fault that you decided not to join in on regular storylines. Even the Shadowlords who are near ostricized from the sept managed to get involved in storylines.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:13:02 PM)
i have trouble making most of the scenes they either start just before I go to bed or when I am headed that way

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:13:09 PM)
dude what would have been the scence in joining them when we were ronin. we were told we were not part of the nation so no matter what we did we sould not get renown for it.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:14:08 PM)
That was 2 weeks, what have you been doing since August 15th? I know I've ran several scenes, Ghostlin, Jayded and Ambient all had active storylines going on since then.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:14:38 PM)
you only couldn't get renown for them 2 weeks.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:15:30 PM)
My chr had gone to the sept on several occasions.. He occasionaly healed people like that lord kin once, and he taught people rites and stuff.. I did try to get him involved actually it was just no one saught anything else from him or invited him into things. infact my lord character gets invited into more events then my cog ever did.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:16:10 PM)
It was not lack of trying it was.. "eww hes a packmate of stars"

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:16:20 PM)
Even on the day of his death?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:16:32 PM)
Andy was only there to speak to him about "star"

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:16:52 PM)
Yeah, I get that. And trust me, you guys weren't the only ones frustrated with Star.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:17:07 PM)
yeah we got that picture.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:17:31 PM)
yeah z but the more she fustrated others the more they isolated us.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:17:46 PM)
we joined in some of them but was not activly par to them. part of that is because yes you were running things but only jermy and I could be in on them as the hours were so damn late that ciq and the rest of the pack could not join in with out leaving only an hour or so in to the scene. so now it is just me who stays up long enough for scens. Let alone to mention the star stigma we all suffer. wich ty the way I still do not understand why she would not have been busted to cub as it gives a renonw noss for being a drain on sept, tribe and pack and she did all three

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:19:35 PM)
I totally agree with a lot of that. But It's not the STs fault they weren't able to make time for the players. We have real lives to attend to ourselves.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:20:08 PM)
to follow this up man I am getting some static from your end. If you do not want to help then why did you decide to have this conversation with us. If you wanted to help us out then why try and make our complaints seem like we are just bitching? we are trying to resolve a situation that has pretty mutch stoped 3 or more players from playing in the venue you st for.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:20:39 PM)
I have some resolutions offered from Ghostlin to releviate some of it.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:20:56 PM)
we would love to here those

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:21:00 PM)
hear*

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:21:19 PM)
First we have STs now available to run evening scenes.. and the STs do like the characters still active in the Redemption pack.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:21:57 PM)
However if you wish to reroll, we will be willing to grant you additional XP to your character on creation for the time you spent on them.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:22:12 PM)
would they be of equal rank?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:22:34 PM)
Apart from the XP bonus, there will be no additional rewards.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:23:06 PM)
could they change the totem to the sl bat version?

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:23:10 PM)
how much xp?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:23:23 PM)
Half what you earned to date.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:23:39 PM)
There are two options if you want to keep the characters.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:23:42 PM)
I was looking over the sl totem there is no way wasabe would follow it

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:24:12 PM)
You can choose a new totem (your choice which it is) or take the Shadowlord version of Bat.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:24:38 PM)
Assume that if you take the new totem, star (and everyone else) is no longer part of the pack.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:25:04 PM)
It's safe to assume for what ever reason, Bat up and left mysteriously.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:25:32 PM)
fuck that then, we have eaked out our rank after a ton of bs. I would not like the SL vertion of bat I can't pu foot to ass even in an honerable combat. Them not being part of the pack means we do not have enough members to be a pack

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:26:34 PM)
You can get with the rest of the members of Redemption and they will be offered the same choice.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:26:39 PM)
problem with a new totem is wasabe and I are only two players, most packs need 3

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:27:08 PM)
I hear there's a 3rd one that's only temporarly absent due to the retail season.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:27:21 PM)
*nods* that is true

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:27:28 PM)
if thats so it would be nice if they told us that

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:27:38 PM)
It is true and she did say she would be back and active once the season is over

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:27:42 PM)
i have spoken to her about it

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:27:54 PM)
Can you get into contact with that one we'll count her into the 3rd one.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:28:10 PM)
but between the madness of working in a wall mart and having every teen call in sick shes is like working hella hours to keep up with the holiday rush

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:28:19 PM)
*nods* ok.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:28:32 PM)
yeah I worked a holiday season at walmart.. sucks ass

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:28:35 PM)
that would work

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:28:38 PM)
yeah i can because i have her phone number

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:28:52 PM)
Kele try to see if she's cool with that.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:29:03 PM)
And take some time to think it over.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:29:19 PM)
There's also memebers at the sept that are in sore need of packs as well

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:29:31 PM)
on to the totem can we say that SL bat took in the totem we have and we are free to find a new one? If we pick a new one can we still at least have the gifts we have from our totem Bat?

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:29:38 PM)
if they will look past our time with star.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:29:40 PM)
and she does want to play she loves roleplaying and she would much rather be on the chat then dealing with short supply of items at a packed store in the middle of iowa where there is no mall and wallmart is like the only shopping place for people to even go to

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:29:57 PM)
you can keep the gifts if you had

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:30:59 PM)
sweet. so we should put in requests for the gifts we have given to us through the totem to make sure they are on the sheets.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:31:13 PM)
that is really awesome

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:31:39 PM)
wait hold on a sec.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:31:57 PM)
I was told that the bat gifts were able to be bought through XP

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:05 PM)
and not given freely

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:18 PM)
is this something else Saphirra changed on us?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:39 PM)
yes!

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:44 PM)
...

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:48 PM)
not your fault man

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:58 PM)
because she told us they came with the freakin totem and we got them when we added more totem points

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:32:58 PM)
we were told we had access to them whenever we wanted them so we did not actually buy them

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:07 PM)
yeah.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:17 PM)
those are gone with the totem then

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:33 PM)
I was told you had to pay for them

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:35 PM)
Well they can buy them

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:36 PM)
but we could learn them before we lost the totem?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:43 PM)
before loosing the totem

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:33:47 PM)
then thats that

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:34:07 PM)
nah, that knowledge goes with the totem as with any totem granted gifts.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:34:25 PM)
And I do apologize for that.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:34:53 PM)
That was our major concern with 'Mother Bat" totem.. and why the rest of the team wouldn't run scenes for you.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:34:57 PM)
*frowns and hangs head* man that sucks

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:35:07 PM)
I never got to really use them

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:35:13 PM)
We didn't ahve a clue what mother bat gave, as it seemed to changed every week.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:35:29 PM)
it is posted in our forums.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:35:42 PM)
yeah Z and even though it changed every week i brought this up to saph she tried to tell me "know it was always like that"

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:36:12 PM)
Like I said... until like a week or two ago, the rest of us didn't have access to your foru,

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:36:34 PM)
if we had know that we could have given you the pw

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:36:40 PM)
Just you guys and Saphirra had it.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:36:49 PM)
I can c&p the post we have or give you the pw. wich is odd that the st's did not ask us for that pass for it. I mean if you did not have and could not get it from her why would you not ask the pc's in the pack?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:37:41 PM)
We had plenty of other things we were doing at the meantime.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:37:52 PM)
Issues like Star.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:01 PM)
if we can find the gifts somewhere else can we get them. all the gifts mama bat gives are in the shadow lord book.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:23 PM)
yeah, if you actually uncover the knowledge you can buy them out of tribe.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:35 PM)
and since you had them at one time, you know they exist.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:41 PM)
"the Littany States Do not be a retard" *Quoted by jeremy meers*

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:46 PM)
yeah

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:47 PM)
that one.

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:38:51 PM)
thats what i was wanting to know.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:39:02 PM)
oh yeah

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:39:17 PM)
and uktena spirit in the stream should be able to help you get it

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:39:31 PM)
*nods*

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:39:42 PM)
As it would have the knowledge thanks to jeremy who shared all his secrets with it

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:40:02 PM)
why can we not buy them now and say we found the knowlage like spead up the process so we do not have to fight to get this done?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:40:25 PM)
So get with this 3rd member who ever it is.. and get with one of us on the new totem. Im sure Windseeker would run the scene for you.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:40:38 PM)
Just put them in as requests like any gift.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:01 PM)
As I understand there's still ass loads of bat spirits at your pack house.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:14 PM)
I think any one of them can teach them to you.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:19 PM)
you have the knowledge

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:23 PM)
*nods* there is indeed

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:27 PM)
all you need is a theurge and chiminage.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:40 PM)
Ok cool and I might have one of thouse in order

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:49 PM)
why a theurge, we can speak to spirits we are uktena

Dmitri Baronov (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:54 PM)
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Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:41:57 PM)
well that works as well

Dmitri Baronov (Dec 4, 2010 11:42:02 PM)
Private Discussion?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:42:10 PM)
Kinda, you need somethign?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:42:14 PM)
Dmitri is not of redemption

Dmitri Baronov (Dec 4, 2010 11:42:14 PM)
nada!

Dmitri Baronov (Dec 4, 2010 11:42:16 PM)
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Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:43:26 PM)
But between Star being exiled, and Yuri probably being gone for good.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:10 PM)
btw the yuri thing was lame as fuck.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:24 PM)
Yuri thing?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:36 PM)
you mean him not hanging out with the pack?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:41 PM)
not hanging out with

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:43 PM)
yes.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:45 PM)
and refusing to log in

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:44:49 PM)
and refusing to make scenes

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:45:05 PM)
and being a over all prick after he all but begged to join the pack on his lil tummy

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:45:07 PM)
yeah, i get that. He's not logging in because the rest of the lords are hot on his ass for other reasons.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:45:20 PM)
tool

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:45:57 PM)
Mostly for refusal to meet with the tribal elder when summoned.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:46:12 PM)
jackass

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:46:28 PM)
Also...

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:46:32 PM)
Scene Requests..

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:46:37 PM)
?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:46:41 PM)
Send them to the board.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:46:46 PM)
Not to any ST specifically

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:47:03 PM)
hes a not a tool hes a C*c@ Suckin mutha F#*kin SISSY! It is more then Lame that he abandoned his pack months at a time and could not even conatact us yet could his elusive "sl ward"

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:47:06 PM)
That way one ST can't sweep them under the rug.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:47:20 PM)
*nods8

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:47:52 PM)
Oh and you can keep your totem points.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:00 PM)
but just the active pack members.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:10 PM)
IE no star, no yuri, etc

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:19 PM)
*nods* sweet so we can get a pretty big totem or make a regular one pretty badassed

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:33 PM)
yeah sure.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:43 PM)
but get 3 members.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:47 PM)
I don't care who

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:50 PM)
*nods*

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:48:58 PM)
and put in a totem request scene

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:49:11 PM)
Unlike last time there's no Contrition needed for Bat.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:49:14 PM)
She's just gone.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:49:49 PM)
no penalties as you didn't piss her off or anything.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:49:49 PM)
but we have a reason why ic correct? I mean we woudl be hella freaked out if she just poofed on us

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:49:59 PM)
could.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:50:04 PM)
Feel free..

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:50:23 PM)
or say she found another sad group of people to screw with

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:50:47 PM)
that is why I was thinking she coudl get obsorbed by some other totem taken in to it's brood . I do not want to be looking for her it will not solve anything.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:51:07 PM)
Probably the ShL version of Bat

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:51:22 PM)
Since thats where she would have ended up

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:51:40 PM)
*nods* works for us. I think

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:01 PM)
ok, sounds like a plan. we will look over totems them.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:20 PM)
ohhh

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:23 PM)
when we get the totem, do we need the third member there?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:35 PM)
and there is a fenris truly wanting and needing a pack if your looking for a philiodox

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:36 PM)
That would be helpful

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:41 PM)
yeah

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:47 PM)
and you have that fenris bitches number

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:52 PM)
wait!

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:56 PM)
...

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:52:58 PM)
what?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:01 PM)
Sarah?

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:12 PM)
hahaha OOO that is true....

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:15 PM)
sarah yeah the bitch in the other room

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:21 PM)
CoI with you Kele.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:22 PM)
shes not involved in this pack

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:32 PM)
col?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:40 PM)
Conflict of interest.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:43 PM)
why?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:45 PM)
I think

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:54 PM)
why?

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:53:56 PM)
im allready involved in this pack as a kinfolk

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:00 PM)
i cant be a st for it

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:08 PM)
same reason.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:10 PM)
and i cant st for sarah cause she lives with me

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:20 PM)
so she might as well be with us lol

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:20 PM)
so why cant we play in the same pack?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:32 PM)
Talk to Ghost about it.

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:42 PM)
He might make an exception

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:43 PM)
just cause she is played by my boyfriend we cant play in the same pack?

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:54 PM)
oh

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:55 PM)
we are two different players

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:56 PM)
nevermind

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:54:58 PM)
lol

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:01 PM)
yeah im retarded

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:02 PM)
she is my boyfriend not me haha

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:10 PM)
yeah

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:15 PM)
lol you had me sooo confused

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:15 PM)
cause that would be bad, then me and wasabe could not be in the same pack lol

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:22 PM)
*giggles*

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:28 PM)
Grab her.

Kele Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:34 PM)
ok

Zhaed (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:35 PM)
Im sure that would help

Ciqala Ohanzee (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:46 PM)
yup.

Wasabe Nigig (Dec 4, 2010 11:55:46 PM)
with a bord that has a nail in it