Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:12:44 AM)
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Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:13:11 AM)
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Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:13:26 AM)
thank you Golden

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:14:50 AM)
Hi. Okay. Looking at the history...a metis Ahroun professional novelist is...um. Kind of whack, man. And I say that with love, because I like originality, but. Wow.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:15:07 AM)
Particularly among the Fenrir. Glass Walker? Maybe. Fenrir...I just don't see it.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:15:23 AM)
Swede write stories too ya know :D

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:15:43 AM)
Of course they do! However, I simply can't see the Fenrir letting a big hulking mule Ahroun spend hours writing in his diary, you know?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:16:39 AM)
Oh I dont know about hours...but if you have a metis that trains and does whatever you ask of him....a few hours a day just having him be off by himself where he isnt getting into trouble or causing trouble might be restful

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:16:47 AM)
but if you dont like it, its coo

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:16:48 AM)
l

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:18:06 AM)
It's not a question of liking, exactly. In theory, it's pretty entertaining. But the sheet would need a lot of work to make it work. For instance...he'd need Kinfolk and Allies and Contacts to be a professional writer, to the level of making Resources 3 off of it.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:18:29 AM)
yeah....i brain damaged that

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:18:41 AM)
He also has no official identity as a metis, so he'd need someone to get him illegal paperwork to have, say, a birth certificate.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:18:52 AM)
See, this is why I think it might work for a Glass Walker, but less so a Get.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:19:00 AM)
ahhh...look at the history...the last little bit

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:19:19 AM)
s'why they sent him to minneapolis to the GW's there

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:20:04 AM)
but ok...I get your point...Ill scrap him and start over

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:20:33 AM)
Honestly, I think this concept has a LOT of potential if maybe you switched tribes and played with the dots a little.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:20:59 AM)
A Glass Walker could totally pull this off. I just think the Get thing is way stretching it. Also, don't you play enough Get Ahroun? :P

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:21:20 AM)
ive only played 2 get in 10 years of online play

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:21:42 AM)
and this will also be the third ahroun, the second which only did 1 scene

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:21:56 AM)
Sorry, I was teasing. I just thought you played a Get Ahroun on IV? Maybe I'm mistaken...

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:22:15 AM)
My apologies, though, I was just being playful, but it might not have come through in the text.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:22:18 AM)
yeah...but thats the only one I have ever played...I almost always play raggies and theurges

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:22:28 AM)
no...its cool....I caught the humor

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:22:52 AM)
*nod* Like I said, i don't hate the concept, it just needs some tweaking.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:22:58 AM)
but yeah...I can come up with someting different. I have never played a GW

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:23:38 AM)
I really think if you change the tribe to GW, and massage the dots a little to have some Kin and Contacts, I would buy it totally. This is the sort of thing the GWs would be super-amused to see happen.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:23:52 AM)
will have to switch from melee to firearms obviously

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:24:12 AM)
Not necessarily. Think weapons that can be concealed.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:24:34 AM)
I mean, no axes, obviously, but knives could be brutal.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:24:42 AM)
But guns would also work, to be sure.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:25:03 AM)
the limited atletics makes sense.....as a metis, he wouldnt allowed out much so no football or other sports

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:25:54 AM)
I may switch out performance for the secondary of tactics. as a reader and stuck inside, he would be bigger into that

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:26:21 AM)
drop rituals by one to add more computer

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:26:28 AM)
Especially for a GW. They have to be kept under lock and key in the city.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:26:46 AM)
Of course, remember, too, that the GW often take in metis from other tribes. So he could be of Get stock, originally, if you wanted that history.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:27:10 AM)
I myself once played a Glass Walker Ahroun who was of Get stock. Fun times.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:27:15 AM)
drop resources to add contacts

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:28:44 AM)
They rarely do that though, unless the parents were higher in station and he was an embarassment

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:28:53 AM)
Do you want me to actually make these changes, or are you thinking out loud?

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:29:02 AM)
Or the Garou himself left. He could have chosen it.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:29:05 AM)
yes to both

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:30:12 AM)
If you drop Rituals by 1, you won't actually have any Rituals...

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:30:49 AM)
ok..im looking at my paper cop\y....which may not be as accurate

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:31:08 AM)
has comp 1, rit 1, enig 2 and what else?

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:31:09 AM)
I just see Rituals 1 on his sheet right now, with no edit.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:31:21 AM)
Linguistics 1

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:31:30 AM)
For ASL

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:31:44 AM)
oh poo...forgot about that, comp 2, rit 1, enig 1, ling 1

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:32:57 AM)
Oops, it looks like your sheet was bugged. What should your mental attributes be?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:33:05 AM)
3/3/3

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:34:28 AM)
Hmm. My suggestion?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:34:41 AM)
go ahead...i have a wondrous open mind

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:35:03 AM)
Drop the Rites 1 background. Buy Kinfolk 1 so you have some nice loyal Kinnerfolk to do your paperwork for you. The contacts will be your publishers who get your stuff printed. Learn Rites IC from your packates. :)

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:35:28 AM)
ok...thhat works...but what kin? hes get stock, remember?

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:35:35 AM)
Kinfolk doesn't have to be family.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:35:49 AM)
ok...so adopted kin per se

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:36:29 AM)
Right. For instance...maybe a sibling or child of a mentor of his, someone who was fond of him and helps him out. Adopted family, so to speak.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:36:57 AM)
that makes sense...perhaps a lawyer?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:37:11 AM)
GW kin lawyer

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:37:14 AM)
A lawyer, an editor, a writer himself or herself...someone who can help.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:37:22 AM)
And Kinfolk 1 is actually 2 Kin, so you can come up with another.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:37:54 AM)
Maybe one is his agent, and even gets a cut of his income. Heh.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:38:03 AM)
lawyer and agent...they would be his contact withthe outer world....contacts would be folks he emails with

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:38:11 AM)
that would be perfect

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:38:15 AM)
Indeed.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:38:40 AM)
obviously ive never played a GW before, this opens some thoughts and horizons

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:38:53 AM)
*chuckle*

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:39:25 AM)
Ah, you need to pick a new tribal gift.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:39:48 AM)
yeah...talking to someone about that...my core is 3 hours away

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:40:06 AM)
I know the gifts for the tribes I p0lay but.....

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:40:16 AM)
did you want to change the melee to firearms, by the way?

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:40:26 AM)
If so, Trick Shot might be useful.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:40:35 AM)
yes, that would be good

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:40:56 AM)
firearms instead of melee....new worlds *chuckles*

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:41:34 AM)
Do you like Trick Shot for the gift, too? Not sure if you were saying Yes to all of it, or just the firearms change. :)

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:41:55 AM)
yes to both...im glad you are here

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:42:15 AM)
What that gift does, if you don't know, is it adds your permanent Glory in dice to any "trick" shot that doesn't do direct damage. So, for instance, you couldn't add the dice to shoot someone in the head...but you could add the dice to shoot a rope to drop a chandelier on someone's head. :)

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:42:29 AM)
So you get 2 bonus dice for any non-direct damage shot.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:42:37 AM)
And it'll increase as you grow as a PC.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:43:15 AM)
is direct damage blowing up a propane tank with a steel jacketed round to kill the enemy?

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:43:50 AM)
Here's the text: "The player adds the character's permanent Glory rating to his dice pool when performing a really outlandish shooting trick. Again, this Gift does not allow direct damage to targets ("I'll shoot him between the eyes!"), but it can be used to injure opponents indirectly ("I'll shoot the rope that's holding the chandalier over his head!"). The effects are permanent."

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:14 AM)
It depends on the ST's ruling. I'd say yes, if you needed to hit a specific target to make it work. If it's literally a "tricky shot".

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:15 AM)
sweet

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:29 AM)
If you just have to hit a huge tank, no. :P

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:35 AM)
*shooting the valve off the tank though

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:39 AM)
Yep!

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:49 AM)
Stll want to keep your breed and auspice gifts as they are?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:44:57 AM)
yeah, those make sense

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:45:34 AM)
although resist pain makes more sense than razor claws

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:46:02 AM)
Alas, not a Glass Walker or Ahroun gift.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:46:05 AM)
Want to add a gun to your equipment?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:46:26 AM)
yeah, better than the warhammer I think

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:46:45 AM)
Yeah, I took the melee weapons off, because, um, you can't use them anymore. Also, super-awkward in the city. :)

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:47:11 AM)
big time. gotta think of the weapon...how about a Judge?

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:47:22 AM)
I would change throwing axes to throwing knives if you still want a Dex + Athletics throwing weapon. Easier to hide, more GW.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:47:31 AM)
Less damage, but concealable.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:47:40 AM)
I am not a firearms expert. What's a Judge?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:48:18 AM)
its a revolver, fires either a 45 long colt or a 410 shotgun round

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:48:29 AM)
So...heavy revolver in terms of damage, ya?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:48:33 AM)
hes big enough it wouldnt kick him to death

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:48:35 AM)
yes

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:49:00 AM)
Alright. I can add that. Dedicated?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:49:05 AM)
yes please

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:49:11 AM)
(Ahh, the joy of playing a Glass Walker...you can dedicate your firearms.)

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:49:20 AM)
and the knives too...although instead of 2, 5 sounds better

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:49:55 AM)
OK. For now, I'm not going to put the damage in your equipment, because I'd have to look it up. I'll check it when it's not 4 AM. :)

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:50:14 AM)
i can dig that...I really appreciate your staying up to help

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:50:26 AM)
No worries. I had chocolate earlier, too wired to sleep just yet.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:50:50 AM)
Oh, Strength spec?

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:51:20 AM)
oh,m I dunno....I cant think

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:51:41 AM)
i have never had that spec so I dont remember what they are

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:51:41 AM)
Hmm. You can add it later on, as long as you don't use it until you've decided for sure.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:51:46 AM)
ok

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:52:23 AM)
Let's see. Lifting is one, I think. Crushing. Yeah, I don't know, either. Never had a Str 4 character, myself.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:52:41 AM)
neither have I....i almost always have higher dex

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:52:56 AM)
I usually go STamina 4 for my Ahroun, or, yeah, Dex.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:52:57 AM)
ill think on that

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:53:01 AM)
OK, no worries.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:54:07 AM)
And you, sir, are sanctioned.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:54:23 AM)
thank you very much....you are the awesome

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:54:33 AM)
NP. If you have any GW questions, don't hesitate to ask. One of my favorite tribes.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:54:42 AM)
ill bounce back through and work out the history issue

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:54:55 AM)
and yeah, I like new challenges

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:54:56 AM)
Alrighty. Yeah, it would be great if you could rewrite it a bit so it flows, thanks.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:55:11 AM)
yeah, gonna have to rewrite most of it

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:55:38 AM)
Good luck. :)

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:55:44 AM)
and ill flesh out the kin and contacts...

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:55:48 AM)
And check your sheet/tags to make sure I didn't miss anything.

Golden ST (Aug 14, 2010 3:55:54 AM)
Good plan.

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:56:02 AM)
willl do....bbiasec

Silent Rage (Aug 14, 2010 3:56:17 AM)
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