Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:24:58 PM)
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Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:26:30 PM)
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:26:43 PM)
okay, this everyone?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 5:26:51 PM)
I think so.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:27:00 PM)
Depends on who everyone is.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:27:36 PM)
Im the philiodox that was present
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:28:04 PM)
For Lobo's interactions at the Chateau? Yeah, Lobo was there (heh, obviously!)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:28:07 PM)
ok, I'm going to go in order. ALL will have their chance to say.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:28:16 PM)
but please wait until I've had a chance to hear others out.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:28:23 PM)
Dalton, what's the nature of this complaint that's brought me here?
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:29:32 PM)
1. The chat rules are being raped in a fashion to excuse the actions of loco lobos pc in a desire to play what is not allowed to be played.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:29:39 PM)
Dalton.,
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:29:52 PM)
please present your argument calmly, without ad hominem or embellishment.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:30:09 PM)
I'm here to listen, but I've had a long morning already on Soapbox. please rephrase that to something acceptably polite.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:30:27 PM)
Sorry for my brashness. Let me try that again.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM)
we all make mistakes. feel free.
auggy (Dec 26, 2010 5:33:04 PM)
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Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:34:19 PM)
1. The rules in the chat clearly state. No concept of Ronin Or Cub and all Players who make a character are to understand that said character knows the littany. This pc lobo never made a rank challenge there for she is not a shadow lord she is a cub. This pc says that even though the chat rules state the pc must know the littany that it does not state "are required". The pc is playing a "claith" whom had no rite of passage. Whom does not know the littany, and in a tribe she never passed such rank of challenge. Which corrdily makes it. A Cub (no rite of passage) Tribeless/Ronin (no rite of passage no totem acceptance of tribe), Who does not "know the littany"
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:34:55 PM)
alright.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:34:58 PM)
Loco, your take on this matter?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:35:06 PM)
unless there's a 2. dalton?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:35:09 PM)
one sec loco, sorry.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:36:15 PM)
That is my first issue depending on how that is resolved will bring in my second issue. Which is allready ic involved complications due to issue 1.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:36:38 PM)
ok. let's talk to loco then.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:36:44 PM)
what's your take on this Loco?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:36:49 PM)
Lobo is a character who will screw up, a lot. I do not want to play a Garou who does everything right, all the time. This is a boring game if I have to do that, if I wanted something perfect I'd go play Second Life instead of the World of Darkness. She's a confused wolf with too much pride to suggest she doesn't know what werewolves are talking about out loud. She's distrustful of leadership and insists on remaining alone, under no one. To her, submitting to one of station doesn't mean Fostern (which is but one rank above Cliath, and doesn't provide any negatives to Lobo for challenging anyway), instead, it means an Alpha. Submitting her safety to any Alpha will freak Lobo out. I intend to clarify OOC the actions of Lobo and why she does it, as well as understand the actions of Dalton and Steven, as well as their players (Who I believe, as PCs, are reacting in a very up tight and conservative -opinion- and does not reflect the motives of their players)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:37:45 PM)
alright, but we have a matter of the rules to address.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:37:53 PM)
Is your character in fact an unranked cub or ronin?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:37:59 PM)
I worry, that not blurting out Lobo's background and her motives in an IC or OOC setting (I like to remain quiet about that sort of thing) has misconstrued their preception of me, and my character.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:39:41 PM)
Lobo is treated like a Cliath, and at one time was given all the responsibilities of a Cliath. Her former Sept did a very shoddy job of checking her out (as they were busy with dire matters in the first place), as did all leadership within her packs (yes plural). No one realised she'd never been put through a Rite of Passage, other than maybe some hurried quest to adopt her into the Sept.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:40:22 PM)
that is going to cause some conflicts. I'm not sure it makes her de jure a lost cub, but it is a questionable moment.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:40:25 PM)
'There is no time, Lobo, to give you a proper adoption into our Sept... Instead... a christening will have to be your award when you arrive savely back from (so and so Quest).'
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:40:39 PM)
It's meant to be a sticky situation.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:40:51 PM)
who sanctioned Loco?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:41:08 PM)
I don't remember, I can maybe check her sheet, it might tell me.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:42:40 PM)
hm.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:43:13 PM)
ok, Steven, your take, if you have some input?
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:45:56 PM)
quick question yama, just a y/n answer please: are you involved in/have insight into the objection to Loco Lobo's background?
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 5:46:15 PM)
Yes.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:46:27 PM)
ok, you're in the queue. I'll ask your input after I get it from Steven.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 5:46:35 PM)
Yes sir.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:46:59 PM)
hush with the sir crap, blah. I'm just trying to help, but I need an orderly approach.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:47:03 PM)
>.>
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:48:03 PM)
ah, Steven is abstaining he says. Yama, your version of events.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 5:48:40 PM)
I'm currently being filled in on what I've missed so far via off-site messenger uploads. It may take a minute. Do you mind coming back to me, Allegory?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:49:25 PM)
sure, just please be as prompt about it as you can. I'd like to resolve this for everyone so we can all get back to the rp soonest.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 5:51:02 PM)
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:52:26 PM)
just getting some more staff in. Ghostlin's on vacation, so the admins are helping him out.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:53:04 PM)
I wasn't worried. I'm sure we can come to a conclusion that will satisfy everyone OOCly (IC is another matter).
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:54:10 PM)
Siggy, update - I've asked Dalton and Loco to give me their takes on things.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:54:26 PM)
they have, now we're waiting on Yama, Steven has said he prefers to abstain from commenting for the moment.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:13 PM)
while we're waiting for Yama, a funny story.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:22 PM)
Ship it.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:23 PM)
Okay. And this is about Loco being a cub right?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:35 PM)
a friend of mine is adopting a dog for christmas. Her daughter doesn't quite understand adoption, so she says to her classmates that her family is stealing their neighbors' dog.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:36 PM)
I'm not sure anymore...
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:48 PM)
that's about the size of it Siggy.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 5:55:51 PM)
Alley- oh lordy.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:56:13 PM)
Heh! That was the room we were talking in earlier! *chuckle*
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 5:56:19 PM)
Ronin/Cub/Does not know littany. All banned concepts from the chat.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:56:37 PM)
I wouldn't say that Dalton.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:56:53 PM)
Ronin can be former members of the Nation (who would know the Litany from their previous stations)
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:56:59 PM)
And Cubs are instructed on it.
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Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:57:18 PM)
So it's really a matter of circumstance. *chuckle*
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 5:57:33 PM)
Well, um, not to be, a total dimwit, but, I'm not sure it matters if Cubs or Ronin know the Litany? or is that the issue at hand?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:57:46 PM)
one of the objections is that Loco does not know the litany, or allegedly so.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:58:01 PM)
which is specifically a banned thing. "All garou know the litany' is in the creation rules for this site.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 5:58:11 PM)
As is not being a cub. yes. agreed.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:58:30 PM)
just waiting for Yama's comments on the situation before I begin proposing solutions.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:58:57 PM)
I think he intends to comment on another situation... he got pulled away for something. I really don't know.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:59:02 PM)
quick note everyone - Ghostlin is still on vacation. he is not to be contacted with this. period. I will unilaterally ban anyone who contacts him during his vacation for a date to be set on his return plus three days.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 5:59:13 PM)
Anyway... Can I make a point though?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:59:20 PM)
we've had a lot of staff getting pestered on their days off, I want it stopped.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 5:59:25 PM)
alright, go ahead loco.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:00:39 PM)
I have been RPing Lobo as if she half knows the Litany, figuring because of her time isolated from the Garou Nation either washed it out or it was never a huge player for her in the first place. But, because she is a Galliard, and equally compelled to listen to the stories... I suppose she'd understand the Litany in her own opinion (Just like each tennant is understood under a certain shade of the viewer).
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:23 PM)
okay, that leads to an interesting question.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:25 PM)
Steven put up a good point when we were talking in the other room, and I'd given it some thought. I'm just worried Lobo's going to be assumed to understand more about the Nation than what I want her to know yet.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:30 PM)
Siggy - when we're talking about "no lost cubs"
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:42 PM)
does that mean "none who are currently lost cubs" or "none who were EVER lost cubs?"
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:43 PM)
Age: All cliath Garou are the human equalivent of 18 or older. NO EXCEPTIONS. You may not play a Cub Garou.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:55 PM)
Dalton, I gave loco time to speak.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:58 PM)
She's most certainly not a child.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:01:59 PM)
you can go after she finishes.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:02:09 PM)
this is a moderated discussion folks.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:02:13 PM)
dalton hang on i'm thinking
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:02:32 PM)
I'm polite and laid back, but we're not going to get side tracked. one issue at a time. I know I'm bad at this, but bear with me because I want to help.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:02:35 PM)
Well, I believe the intention of that rule is not- none who were ever lost cubs.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:02:46 PM)
but i do believe that the intention is that whoever is in the chat *does* know enough about the nation to play
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:02:53 PM)
on the same par as the rest of the cliath.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:03 PM)
does that make any sense?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:12 PM)
Lobo has the flaw: Twisted Upbringing, to reflect her misguided knowledge of the Garou Nation.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:15 PM)
Ie you might have been a lost cub but that meeans your'e an older cliath.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:28 PM)
...hrm. let me go check the rules then loco as honestly maybe that shouldn't have been sanctioned
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:40 PM)
Exceptions: Anything that mentions that it needs an exception must have a submission of the form by FPM to the Werewolf STs to approve. The application is below.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:42 PM)
It's a restricted Flaw, and is explained in her background.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:50 PM)
*twiddles thumbs waiting for Yama*
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:03:59 PM)
oh okay. thanks for the clarification you two.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:20 PM)
That Exceptions thing didn't appear when I created the character, is it new?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:22 PM)
patience folks. I do things slow, I believe in the calming power of time.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:28 PM)
hrm. Lobo, do you mind if i read the background?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:31 PM)
Ah, sorry Allegory... I talk a lot...
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:33 PM)
I do play in WTA so i'd like your go ahead.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:38 PM)
Sure, Signal, lemme summon up the link for you.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:41 PM)
thank you
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:49 PM)
It's in two parts, two views.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:04:52 PM)
Loco- dont believe that it's new.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:05:51 PM)
Alright, Note: Lobo was originally supposed to be Lupus, and Fury... her background may need to be glossed in some parts to respect that.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:05:52 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1543
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:06:44 PM)
She was also supposed to have Crow as a personal totem, but since that wasn't allowed (but her Background was detailed and made a lot of story sense) I got some Spirit Heritage and Numen instead.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:06:56 PM)
Lupus were probably capped at the time Lobo was sanctioned right?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:07:02 PM)
yup
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:07:10 PM)
And ShL were about to be.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:07:40 PM)
I'm quiet, because i'm reading
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SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:14 PM)
Lobo, do you remember who sanctioned you?
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:17 PM)
out of curiosity.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:25 PM)
I don't.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:41 PM)
Ah, Saphirra perhaps?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:41 PM)
Zhaed.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:48 PM)
my sources say Zhaed.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:08:59 PM)
Ok, and there's a post at the bottom of her background by an ST
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:10:35 PM)
Okay.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:10:41 PM)
Okay, done reading.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:10:51 PM)
Where were we alley? it seems Yama left?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:11:11 PM)
yes, he's gone atm.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:11:24 PM)
okay, so, could you guide this convo or do we need to wait for him?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:13:18 PM)
That was fast, Signal, lol
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:13:26 PM)
I read and type rather fast.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:13:33 PM)
Mostly because that's my day job too.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:13:34 PM)
Cool
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:13:40 PM)
Did you at least like the background?
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:14:06 PM)
I think it's an interesting concept, and i do think you put some real thought into it. i'm not sure that it should have been sanctioned as is, but i do like it.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:15:19 PM)
Loco, can i ask you something? how many points was twisted upbringing?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:15:24 PM)
2
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:15:25 PM)
I am snowed in away from my books i'm afraid.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:15:35 PM)
thanks. *talking with alley about an idea*
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:15:38 PM)
I'm sorry 1
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:15:47 PM)
Darlin, not your fault.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:01 PM)
Heh, I had to go back and look
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:04 PM)
So let me propose something to you, and this is by no means an edict.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:05 PM)
we're working on a compromise that will level things out.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:11 PM)
we'd like your input.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:23 PM)
I don't mind compromises, so long as the intent and style of my character may stay in tact.
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SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:31 PM)
I dont think this should have been sanctioned quite as is. but i think we can make it close.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:39 PM)
Sure
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:42 PM)
and i dont want to penalize you when it's not your fault that this wasn't worked out at the time
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:16:56 PM)
Ok, tell me your idea
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:17:01 PM)
but, we, the staff do three things. 1. let you buy the flaw off for free. the extra XP is effectively an apology from us
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:17:09 PM)
2. provide you an IC role-play reason for Loco to learn more about the litany.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:17:20 PM)
through the NPCs. so that you can keep your history and everything in tact
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:17:38 PM)
and 3. we'll add that flaw to the banned list so that this can't come up again. which is more a preventative than anything affecting you.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:17:58 PM)
you can keep her history, and the concept otherwise fully in tact, and by no means does she have to become dox-knowlege of the litany?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:14 PM)
I'll accept that. Though I'd much prefer it be a PC she learns from (so that they can get fatty Renown for doing so)
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:14 PM)
and i'm sure she'd still have some issues given the history with packs and the like. so, not trying to trod all over that.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:23 PM)
ok, now Dalton, Steven
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:25 PM)
I dont mind that, do you Alley?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:28 PM)
what are your thoughts on this ?
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:33 PM)
As long as she does it within the next couple of weeks?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:39 PM)
my thoughts will wait until others have said they have an opinion or decline to speak.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:42 PM)
okay
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:18:54 PM)
I'm a big fan of the discussion process.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:19:00 PM)
I will bring up the ic issues once the ooc ones are settled here. Because I have part 2 of my complaints depending on how this is worked out
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:19:31 PM)
Okay and i will start now
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:19:45 PM)
Part 2 is going to be ic consequences.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:19:53 PM)
Which are ok with me.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:20:15 PM)
So long as we understand OOCly why we're playing our characters the way we are.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:20:39 PM)
can i confusedly ask, what you mean Dalton?
Faith King (Dec 26, 2010 6:21:13 PM)
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Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:21:41 PM)
Can we remove the irrelevant people from this room please?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:21:49 PM)
ok, quick question everyone
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:22:01 PM)
if you are involved specifically in the loco lobo background discussion, please say yea. if not, say nay.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:22:07 PM)
yeah
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:22:07 PM)
and if nay, please depart for a bit.
Faith King (Dec 26, 2010 6:22:14 PM)
oops sry
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:22:22 PM)
I shoulda locked the room.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:22:29 PM)
IC as it stands loco lobo is going to die. There is no polite way to put that, with my own characters background being what it is. + Her concept being allowed to continue on the path it is. With prior issues allready ic due to the flaws she was allowed at creation puts the whole "learning ic" into a grey area for her character really won't live that long to get the chance at this point.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:23:33 PM)
what happens ic stays ic.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:23:40 PM)
as long as it isn't violating our rules as stated.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:24:04 PM)
There are rules on PVP?
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:24:14 PM)
Heh.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:24:37 PM)
So... The Stormcrows lied to Yama then, about not wanting to kill Lobo?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:09 PM)
The Stormcrows didn't lie to no one.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:15 PM)
Dalton didn't talk to Yama
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:23 PM)
It's fine.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:23 PM)
and steven doesn't want to kill lobo
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:23 PM)
ah, true that
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:31 PM)
I'll want to finish our scene with Steven first.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:25:44 PM)
Obv.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:27:11 PM)
To point a Fact
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:28:01 PM)
It was Dalton who wanted this to be brought before the elder of the shadow lord tribe. It was he and yes i have the screen shots of it that said no harm would come to her from them and they would not return to her territory without the tribal elder
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:28:43 PM)
alright. you are aware there will be ic consequences if his word is broken?
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:28:46 PM)
but our tribal elder is played by ghostlin whom is on break for 2 weeks so i sit and wait, i make no actions ic till i can speak to my elder. And thus everyone goes wiggy cause no one is capable of pacients when this comes into play.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:28:53 PM)
Does it really seem appropriate to bring in the -Tribal Elder- for Lobo having kissed Cosette?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:01 PM)
yep
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:08 PM)
litany violations.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:19 PM)
Its not just the kiss and you know it loco lobo
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:31 PM)
guys.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:32 PM)
Ah, I don't.. apparently.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:33 PM)
we're not arguing.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:39 PM)
we're discussing. stop that.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:29:56 PM)
I'm sorry... Dalton... could you please talk about what's going on?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:12 PM)
also, side note
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:19 PM)
is Loco a member of the shared blood sept?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:23 PM)
no
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:27 PM)
ok
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:32 PM)
that true loco?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:32 PM)
Nope, and she does her best to stay away from the Sept.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:36 PM)
alrighty.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:43 PM)
Nope, as in, no she's not a member.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:30:46 PM)
then the sept's ability to intervene or discuss on it ic will be limited.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:31:05 PM)
She was also invited to the Chateau by other Lords.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:31:05 PM)
yep.. it's a tribal issue mostly.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:32:34 PM)
ok. well then, I think the admins' involvement here has pretty much played out. what happens from here is purely IC, and I don't see a reason to govern it. however, I will insist that any scenes that might lead to the death of a character in this storyline involve an ST before they happen.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:32:52 PM)
if that mens scenelocking some people, I'll do that. how do people want to proceed? starting with Dalton.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:33:13 PM)
Allegory. What about the scene with Portia, Chris, Yama, Seeker and Steven.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:34:14 PM)
that one is still under review, and I can't make a comment about it.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:34:36 PM)
given how public that one became, it's best if we're quiet about that one until things resolve and the discussions pan out. we beg your patience.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:35:12 PM)
I still do not plan on making a move without speaking to my tribal elder first. Which means my chr will not be stealth assasinating anyone. (yes spelling is horridble be patient.) My Character is refreing to its tribal leader on this and thus I will be waiting for Ghostlins return which will not be till after janurary 5th in the "least" amount of time.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:35:17 PM)
(back family intrruptions)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:35:33 PM)
ok, so no scenelocks are needed?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:35:37 PM)
nope
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:35:49 PM)
this can all proceed in limbo until the STs involved return?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:35:53 PM)
Not yet at least.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:36:00 PM)
none of the lords are going to act without the tribal elders explicit permission
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:36:18 PM)
anyone else have any issues on this matter that I need to look over?
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:36:34 PM)
If my chr is attacked over this when icly he is going through the proper chain of commands and it is only being helpd back due to a sts break. Then I will ask for a st with no coi to witness it. I myself do not add into combat or challenges of any kind without a proper st avilable.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:37:25 PM)
Ghostlin has given me permission to overview this situation and moderate scenes for it if they must come up. do not hesitate to contact me for this.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:37:33 PM)
thats pretty much it... I'll be honest here.. I got no problem with Lobo OOCily.. ICily Steven thinks the character needs some serious fixing...
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:37:34 PM)
but
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:37:46 PM)
Steven has no desire to see it dead..
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:37:48 PM)
Heh, ICly, you're absolutely right
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:38:03 PM)
alright. does everyone here agree that this is, as far as we are able, a fair and open adjudication?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:38:43 PM)
however..... if Lobo ends up dead for some reason... Steven won't spend much time if any to track down the killer.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:38:46 PM)
okay, so to recap, Allegory or an uninvolted ST gets called in for anything in this that involves combat or char death
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:38:58 PM)
Dalton is who wants Loco dead, but only IC.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:39:13 PM)
OOC - sheet will be fixed with an IC opportunity to fix the issue. which means she might not get killed, do i have this right?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:39:14 PM)
Could you restate that last Signal?
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:39:39 PM)
hrm? what do you mean? *confused* did i get part of it wrong?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:39:48 PM)
Even if Lobo checked herself before she wrecked herself, will Dalton still try to off her?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:40:04 PM)
No, I just didn't understand exactly what you were saying.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:40:14 PM)
Oh i see, and, Dalton, i think that's for you to answer.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:40:23 PM)
'cause if Dalton wants me dead OOC...
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:40:26 PM)
What was that question?
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:40:41 PM)
That you only want Lobo dead ic, and lobo's question about if she tries to get the issues fixed
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 6:40:44 PM)
would dalton still be out for her?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:41:27 PM)
hang on hang on, ok, anyone typing please stop.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:41:32 PM)
once again, in order.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:41:54 PM)
Dalton - summarize your opinion of the situation, based on what we've discussed so far. shortest version possible.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:45:48 PM)
Oh it is a Ic Matter in the respect as Her ic actions are in his eyes unforgiveable. Me as a ooc person I do not even know you loco lobo as far as I know. If she turns around and mysteriously wants to learn the "Littany" in his eyes it is far to late, the fact she is not a cub and is a claith means she is not tequnicaly a lord. That would be her only saving grace if she got accepted by a different tribe for her rite of passage. Then he would essensialy not have a issue with her, because she would not be a lord. It is Ic issues he has most certainly not ooc issues I have. Unless you are asking me ooc to forgive your chr for its ic issues?
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:46:19 PM)
(is a cub and not a claith)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:46:57 PM)
loco, a short response please.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:47:01 PM)
IC - Lobo is convinced the Stormcrows, and probably also the Tribal Elder, are going to try and kill her if she remains apart from the Shadow Lords and their society, yet will spare her if she approaches them, humbled, for cultural learning. She believes that submitting to them, 'A Pack of Alphas', will also be the death of her, or at least further strife.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:47:58 PM)
(afk brb)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:48:14 PM)
Steven has indicated he's not commenting, just observing. Yama, your thoughts? short summary, please.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:49:59 PM)
actually I will post..
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:50:03 PM)
after Yama
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:51:46 PM)
ok
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:54:04 PM)
IC- Yama is going to kill Steven and Dalton, and most likely attempt to remove from exstence all those associated with them closely. I.E. The Stormcrows. The Shadowlords are already supposed to be on shaky ground. A confused cliath(Lunatic by Yamas estimation) has been marked for death for an occurance that could easily be solved by contrition. Viewing the aggressive psuedo-good guy impression the ShL's have presented themselves before the character. He knows only this- Gaian Garou are planning to kill a Gaian Garou. The circumstances are extenuating, but even for Shadowlords that is rather extreme. Violations of territory occur all around here, after all. If Steven did nothing wrong when he 'questioned' Lobo, why the hell did she panic and run, and present herself to BC and Yama as being -genuinely terrified- of the Shadowlords. To prevent the needless death of one metis(Something that touches close to home for Yama, I'll point any interested parties to the character background.) he tried to reason out what
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:54:17 PM)
had happened from someone NOT visibly cracked.(I mean, despite her fear, it's obvious Lobo is not well mentally and Yama has taken steps to take her under his tutelage but that is still in its infancy.) Protecting a Helpless Garou is an honorable choice, knowing that the most despised tribe at the sept is involved as well doesn't help matters.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:54:55 PM)
ok. steven
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:55:49 PM)
This attempt is currently frozen, but if things stand as-is. Steven lied to Seeker(And me OOC because I asked if he wanted to roll anything to back up the fact he stated he and his (Iferring more then himself, obviously) at no point wished her dead. This is changing that to make steven a liar IC, as he didn't wish to roll, it can be surmised(By the same logic set as precedent by Hades/Ghostlin/Etc.) that no roll was needed to see that.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:55:51 PM)
And done.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:55:53 PM)
Sorry.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:55:57 PM)
ah, no worries.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:56:04 PM)
Uh...
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 6:56:06 PM)
*referring
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:56:26 PM)
As I stated to lobo.. and here.. Steven never once lied about wanting to kill Lobo..
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:56:35 PM)
He could care less about the metis.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:56:50 PM)
She joins the sept so be it.. their problem not his.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:56:55 PM)
So, he's not protecting a helpless Garou.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:11 PM)
she's garou... not helpless.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:13 PM)
loco, hush.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:18 PM)
we're going in order.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:19 PM)
*zips lip*
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:43 PM)
ok Steven, your broad opinion, in the shortest possible summary, of the events here.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:43 PM)
Tell me when it is my turn again. Would love to rebuttal mr. Yama!
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:57:46 PM)
then I will make a ruling.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 6:58:04 PM)
these are all ic discussions. there will be no further rebuttal.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 6:58:17 PM)
Nope yama is meta gameing.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:58:32 PM)
But if Lobo came to the lords Steven would do his damdest he help Lobo... She's a Lord after all... Even if she's messed in the head... she's still one of thunder's chosen.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:58:54 PM)
She asked steven to leave her alone so he did. Respect of territory.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 6:59:29 PM)
and yeah Yama is meta gaming...
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:00:04 PM)
ah. no one mentioned to me THIS comment before. ok.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:00:13 PM)
we just found this out.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:00:15 PM)
ok people, I have 30 minutes before I have to run some errands.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:00:36 PM)
shortest possible explanations. Dalton, explain why you feel yama is metagaming.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:01:20 PM)
Yama is totally not metagaming...!
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:01:28 PM)
Dalton, what is your reasoning?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:01:32 PM)
Loco!
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:01:51 PM)
everyone, if you want this issue resolved, will you please respect the posting order I'm putting into place?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:15 PM)
I'm sorry Allegory, It's just really shocking to hear this... I'll trust in you.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:17 PM)
it's Boxing Day people, I have 30 minutes bofore I have to take care of important errands.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:25 PM)
(back, sorry. i'm home and i'm getting interrupted by my parents, which is..not something i can turn down)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:31 PM)
will you please help me resolve this as quickly, honestly, and simpley as possible.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:32 PM)
He took out of character information placed here about how my chr would feel about loco lobo turning over a new leaf and plans on taking that ic when his chr has no ic reason to react to it. PLAIN as DAY bucko that is meta gameing. Spin it any way you want, i said i was waiting for the elder and as far as my chr was concearened her actions where unacceptable but my pc was deferring to his elder. And you are saying as a result to ic information you just gained in here you are launching a attack on my pc ic.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:50 PM)
Dalton. stop being directly confrontational.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:02:53 PM)
you are talking to ME.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:03:01 PM)
not Yama. this is an admin/st resolution.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:03:04 PM)
everyone respect taht, please.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:03:09 PM)
Sorry..
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:03:15 PM)
don't be sorry. listen.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:03:33 PM)
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:03:34 PM)
now, if I may restate. you feel that Yama stating his character will kill your characters if they kill Loco is metagaming.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:04:06 PM)
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:04:49 PM)
restating. Dalton, you feel that yama stating his character will kill yours and stevens pcs if they kill loco is metagaming?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:05:49 PM)
Liike I said myself... Steven isn't going to kill Loco. He's not even going to try... He's got other more important business than worrying to much about the fate of a single metis.. If Lobo comes to ask for help, he'll offer it freely.. If lobo goes to find help at the sept then that works too. He'll probably do his best to find some help for the broken metis.. but it's still a Lord.. It's still a tribe mate.. and Ignorance isn't a crime.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:06:35 PM)
ok. then my briefest ruling on this matter.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:06:39 PM)
That is not what he stated.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:06:44 PM)
since no one seems to be willing to stop. listen. and follow my instructions.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:06:57 PM)
this matter will not proceed in any fashion, from any PC, until ghostlin gets back.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:07:03 PM)
Very well.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:07:09 PM)
you are all not to interact on this storyline whatsoever until ghostlin is back.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:07:13 PM)
I was answering you All
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:07:26 PM)
people are repeatedly ignoring my requests for posting order, Dalton.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:07:38 PM)
and I'm out of patience. I have tried to be friendly here, and everyone is convinced they don't ahve to listen to me.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:07:46 PM)
so fine, you don't have to. matter is tabled until Ghostlin is back.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:08:07 PM)
if I hear any word of it progressing without ghostlin's express permission on his return, I will pull icons until he tells me to put them back.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:08:27 PM)
now, I do not want to put that judgment into effect. is everyone willing to listen, go in the order I ask, and be polite?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:08:34 PM)
or shall I just use that judgment and be done.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:09:14 PM)
Thank you for your time and patients and sorry for running you out of both.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:10:06 PM)
Alright folks. look. The situation is tabled for the time being. do we all agree that no action will be taken on this until the HST of the venue is present to adjudicate?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:10:18 PM)
in order. Dalton, Loco, Siggy, Steven, Yama, say yea or nay please.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:12:46 PM)
and before people answer, let me apologize for my losing patience comment. It was unreservedly unwarranted. You have all been more polite than most, I just have very little time and was trying to make the most of it.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:14:46 PM)
Agreed
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:14:49 PM)
Loco?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:16:00 PM)
I can't say yea or Nay just yet. I want to clarify and please refer to Lobo's IC opinion. She -believes- they will kill her. She ICly confided in Yama after a great deal of RP, and they all knowing something was wrong with her. Lobo is terrified of the Shadow Lords at the Chateau. Yama promising to protect her against them for valid IC reasons, taking actions up to and including killing Dalton and Steven. Dalton (Alpha of the Stormcrows, representing the Stormcrows) promises to kill Lobo if she does not come back and submit to the Shadow Lords (although, not until after talking to the Tribal Elder), Lobo takes this as a threat on her life and takes it seriously.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:16:32 PM)
You aren't saying anything you haven't already said.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:16:44 PM)
Do you agree this scene will not go any further forward until it can be reviewed by ghostlin?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:16:47 PM)
I'm glad you remembered what I said, Allegory (this is rare)
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:01 PM)
Yea, but Allegory, I would like you pressent when we wade through this with Ghostlin.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:09 PM)
I'd love to be.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:15 PM)
I will make sure that's noted.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:17 PM)
Siggy?
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:18 PM)
And I'd like to talk to you a moment in pms)
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:23 PM)
aye
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:17:35 PM)
Steven.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:20:36 PM)
I won't do nothing to anyone over anything.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:20:51 PM)
got no IC reason to do so.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:21:28 PM)
and Yama.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:21:56 PM)
Yay.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:22:49 PM)
alright.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:23:06 PM)
thanks for talking things out everyone. again, I hope everyone accepts my unreserved apology for losing my temper a moment there.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:23:27 PM)
anyone who wants it made publicly, I will do so, must pm me the request. available in PM for 15 more minutes.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:23:32 PM)
you're fine, Allegory. I'm sorry for speaking out of turn also..)
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:23:46 PM)
*just, not must
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:27:32 PM)
*raises hand*
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:27:47 PM)
whassup, Yama?
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:28:15 PM)
*Raises hand as well*
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:28:24 PM)
(afk potty)
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:28:27 PM)
Does anyone know when(even roughly) Ghostlin/Admins/Whomever will make a ruling regarding the scene on the bawn with seeker and us?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:28:49 PM)
when we're done discussing it, as I told you earlier.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:29:03 PM)
the matter's still in discussion among the admins.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:29:20 PM)
we will issue the ruling when we're ready, no sooner. sorry, but that one's not ready to parse out yet.
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:29:29 PM)
kk
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:29:38 PM)
ty Allegory
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:30:04 PM)
*tips hat*
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:30:41 PM)
Bak
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:05 PM)
guys can you change her Icon to Ronin please?
Yama Kaze (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:15 PM)
?????????
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:19 PM)
She's not a lord if she's not passed a rite of passage
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:26 PM)
Ghostlin can handle that.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:29 PM)
ok
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:33 PM)
it can wait until ghostlin is back.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:32:40 PM)
you agreed to wait til he's back in on this, did you not?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:02 PM)
Dalton, you had something to ask?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:09 PM)
Im rather annoyed...
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:14 PM)
Very annoyed
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:42 PM)
btw, alley just lost connection
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:48 PM)
fyi. *going to boot him so he can get back in*
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:49 PM)
no, I didn't.
SignalDancer (Dec 26, 2010 7:33:57 PM)
you told me you did . hah. okay n/
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:34:10 PM)
I see it like this and I wish to say my peace here...
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Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:34:29 PM)
go ahead, Steven.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:35:36 PM)
just realize I'm gone in 5 minutes.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:35:41 PM)
Yes She said yay/nay I have no idea what that means. Is she going to wait for the hst or not? And like wise please remember my chr ic my chr never threatened to Kill your pc. I have the screen shots of it again. So saying he would ic is meta gameing cause you bring in ooc info ic that was not only not given ic. But it was stated ic he was seeking the coucil of his elder.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:36:02 PM)
(never threatened to kill her pc)
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:36:21 PM)
If Loco Lobo didn't pass her rite of passage... She's not a Shadow Lord. That's simple fact.... If Siggy is allowing it to go through with it.. Then the shadowlords would have never associated with the character.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:36:33 PM)
*sighs*
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:36:40 PM)
fine. someone answer me this.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:36:52 PM)
what compelling, real life, absolutely cannot wait reason exists for me to deal with this RIGHT NOW.
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:36:53 PM)
She wouldn't have been allowed at the tribal house, and they would have never ever spoken with her.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:37:05 PM)
why can it not wait for resolution from Ghostlin?
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:37:59 PM)
I just wanted to say my peace that's all
Steven Vincent (Dec 26, 2010 7:38:02 PM)
It can wait.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:38:13 PM)
I am fine with not moving foward with this till ghostlin is back. Which is what I was allready doing ic.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:38:13 PM)
alright.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:38:38 PM)
then if everyone is satisfied, I will depart for the time being. I'm sorry things got tight for a bit. I know this situation is not ideal.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:38:47 PM)
Are we scene locked, or can we still RP on our own?
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:04 PM)
rp can continue if you wish. but be aware there may be retcons based on how we all agree with things.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:13 PM)
I hatei t when they happen, but sometimes they are necessary.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:21 PM)
now, I have to go shopping everyone.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:31 PM)
Lobo's laying as low as she can, she will not approach the Chateau, the Stormcrows, or the Tribal Elder.
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:33 PM)
Bye allegory
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:34 PM)
thank you all for your comments. I appreciate everything that has been said.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:39 PM)
bye bye!
Dalton Fortman (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:42 PM)
Thank you for your patients
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:44 PM)
a log of this discussion will be pulled and set aside.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:39:48 PM)
for reference.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:41:07 PM)
nothing of this will be made public by any staff, and no arguments on the matter will be forthcoming. no repurcussions will be made from the staff for anyone involved. you are always free to come to me for advice or administration at any time.
Allegory (Dec 26, 2010 7:41:17 PM)
thank you for playing on SI, everyone go play and have a nice Boxing Day.
Loco Lobo (Dec 26, 2010 7:41:39 PM)
Ciao, Allegory! Heart You!
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