Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:50:07 PM)
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Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:50:29 PM)
like I was saying most of her influences are indirect
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:51:38 PM)
She has a fasion designer thrall that has high society influence and fame 2 I think, she has one that has either contacts or influence in the criminal circles and happens to be her supplier, she has one that is a professor with university influence, a media person for a politician with media and political influence,
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:51:48 PM)
OKay so as I said, I see Jaquie as still building her active reputation. Now to the question in hand, You want to use your influence to find a cult. Now thats an investigation into a very specific field so occult influence is the best way to go without serious risk of a feux pas. Asking high society members what they know could earn you a bad rep
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:52:22 PM)
well specifically she was going to ask those high society members that are in her cult
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:53:04 PM)
But they ARE in your cult, you don't need to roll influence to get them to tell you if they heard anything
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:53:12 PM)
they'd just tell you most likely
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:53:25 PM)
its YOUR cult :)
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:53:34 PM)
well I yeah, but that doesn't guarantee they know anything
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:54:13 PM)
I figured my influence level was a gauge of how likely they were to know something
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:54:16 PM)
what we need to ask from an rp point of view is 'you have applied for occult influence, does that extend outside of your own cult?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:54:41 PM)
if not, then okay, they are your eyes in tis case
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 10:54:56 PM)
AFK for just 4 mins, kids
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:55:14 PM)
I'd say not directly- she's trying not to be too flashy, but she influence the members of her cult- some of which should be movers in the occult world- that was the initial justification for the occult influence
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 10:56:03 PM)
https://sites.google.com/site/jacquelineroseleblanc/thralls that is her thrall list- it doesn't specifically mention influences, for the pcs I don't know the full stat levels- for npcs they were never explicitly wrote out
Róis Ó Brógáin (Apr 1, 2011 10:57:43 PM)
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Róis Ó Brógáin (Apr 1, 2011 10:57:51 PM)
Sneaks in.
Róis Ó Brógáin (Apr 1, 2011 10:58:23 PM)
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Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:02:47 PM)
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Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:03:09 PM)
b ack
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:03:15 PM)
Heya Alex
Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:03:24 PM)
hola
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:04:35 PM)
*curls up in the nice safe Alex lap*
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:06:33 PM)
Okay so ... You have an occult influence of two which reflects your influence over your own cult in this instance and yes, as you have dictated that you desire them to have some standing in the community,m it is possible that some would be invited to some function or other
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:07:21 PM)
In order to use this influence in ths manner, this is where your contacts and allies can be used in conjunction with one another.
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:08:07 PM)
ok
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:08:31 PM)
So lets go from there :)
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:09:38 PM)
ok so how do we do that?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:10:55 PM)
Jaqueline wants to build her reputation into something a little solid so that she can utilise her Influence over more influential people. The ball was a good idea that went wrong unfortunatly, but I think Nasty was assuming that in order to ensure it did not hurt your rep, you would come back with damage control and organise something else..... you suggested the Casino night
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:11:18 PM)
I did- but no players seemed interested in that
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:12:24 PM)
Many of the players do not realise the potential that such an event can have, I however do :) This is a fantastic idea, however, in order for this to increase your standing through the event, you must attempt to lure some names along
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:13:30 PM)
ok I can do that and I can write you some bbs for that, but that doesn't get me the answers that we started looking for about the sl or the answers about the bbs I've already done and if she's made any progress with organizing neighborhood watches and student things
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:13:41 PM)
So, where you aim is important, as some important city identities may already be under the influence of other Demons... it's a dangerous game
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:14:16 PM)
Well, thats why we're here right now, so that I can facillitate that
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:14:19 PM)
:)
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:15:31 PM)
does this mean that I can have some more social scenes and I'm not overstepping my place as a player to ask for more political aspects for the game that I can explore since that interests me?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:15:40 PM)
The organising of a neighbourhood watch scheme is something that might earn you some notice at a local council level; a good move for someone wanting an ear in local mortal policy. I will look over the BB's and get back to you asap
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:16:11 PM)
cool- and she actually has the police thrall too that was helping out with that and the university thrall that was helping with her plans for that
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:17:23 PM)
I will get that established for you vioa my reply before I log today.... perfectly reasonable and a good idea to boot
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:17:52 PM)
Jaquie, you and I go back aways but i don't think you have ever worked under me so lets get that elephant out of the room. What am I like as an ST and how do I feel about the demon venue...
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:18:16 PM)
ok
Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:18:35 PM)
Elephant.. where is pinky...
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:20:12 PM)
If the player wants to do something and it fits the venue, I will do my best to see what can be done, but in my books, this needs the players direct input. If Jaquie wants to be a mover and a shaker, she must move and shake other players... they are among the most influential people in this sity
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:20:25 PM)
city
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:20:57 PM)
jacqui does- she has a lot of aliegences and enemies among the players- can I be honest with you with out getting attacked?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:22:20 PM)
that's a loaded question, it suggests that I might attack any player. Just as long as any critisism you have is posted as a contructive critisism I will attempt to engage with you just as honestly :)
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:22:59 PM)
Players who post "and such and such is a bitch" are not vert easy to want to help lol
Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:23:21 PM)
they are the fun ones to mess with
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:23:31 PM)
but I can't help unless you talk to me guys
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:25:55 PM)
ok- the players I've heard from- some directly and others through the grape vine that have stopped logging in- other than Swan who has been eaten by a video game have done so because they feel that Nasty was playing favorites with your group- I know you didn't get what you wanted from the senerio- but when you were coming to him and wanting to tear down the court to fix it and he was encrouraging you to work toward that goal- he was telling those of us that wanted to fix it to be patient and not do anything because he didn't want to punish the missing players- after you broke away we saw you getting scenes while we waited weeks to even get our next court to try and fix it- I tried to be constructive and tell you what kind of game I was interested in and encourage other people to do so thinking that you would listen and people would get interested again because they had a voice and the response felt like you were saying we're going to run the most awseome cool game and don't care what you think about it
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:26:29 PM)
The icing on the cake was trying to talk to dusk after that and being told that I shouldn't be playing demon and obviously didn't understand the game and that jacqui would make a great toreador but she was a terrible demon
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:27:57 PM)
there is a lot of trust missing in the game right now- almost every time I've approached nasty I've gotten yelled at- in the court scene he logged because jacqui as head of eagles objected to the idea of having the whole court investigate a matter that should fall under eagles with out any coordination just doing what ever they wanted for it
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:28:17 PM)
Okay *nods* Let me take all that in bites as there are a lot of issues in the one post, so hang on and I will address each one
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:28:24 PM)
ok
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:33:25 PM)
First of all, lets address the favouritism. Nasty has only run two scenes for 'the group' you identify, that being a scene trying to meet Maxsim, he was unmeetable, and the second was for James which only included James and Sophie, where he had requested a search for some lost thingy. Most of the 'scenes' the group were running were based on info replies via the scene request thread, where the group ran their own scenes.
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:35:13 PM)
I accept that court scenes were few and far between but that was far more due to an ST based issue of departing ST's running with conflicting ideas, something that Nasty has done his best to wrestle with
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:35:20 PM)
so that's at least 3 scenes in the time it took us to get one that he stormed off from because a pc disagreed with his npc- and when I requested a scene I had to throw a fit at Dasti to get it- Nasty told me that he would be happy to set it up for me- but he was leaving and I needed to wait on the new st team
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:35:45 PM)
well, hold on. As I said, let me address your points first hon
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:36:17 PM)
honestly though most of my frustration comes from the fact that he was encouraging yoru efforts to destroy the court while telling me to sit on my hands and not try and fix it- now I feel like I'm playing catch up because I made the mistake of trusting the st
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:37:25 PM)
That's not entirely accurate. But in order to explain exaclty what was happening with the court would be to reveal the meta plot of the venue
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:38:44 PM)
Rest assured though, that you will no longer have to sit on anything as I am pushing the SL on regardless. Some will no doubt say 'wtf' in time, but given time, I am positive that it will lead to a stronger and more dynamic venue.
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:38:49 PM)
ok well he's told me that ooc he encouraged your group- ooc when I wanted to try and fix the court and get new people in possitions he asked me ooc to be patient so I did nothing- if 2 groups have conflicting goals he shouldn't ask one ooc to do nothing while he encourages the others
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:39:24 PM)
can't you see why it's frustrating though that the court may fall apart due to a sl that I didn't get to even know about until too late to really do anything?
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:40:44 PM)
he also plays Perri so differently that at this point Jacqui is going to have Vicars investigate the matter and see if she's been replaced by a dopple ganger
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:41:07 PM)
He did not ask you to do nothing, he asked you to be patient. The court players base has proven, unfortunatly, and repeadedly to be very reticent to engage in things that thay don't see will benefit themselves. An example of this is the call by the Lordf Harrier to move on Sophie. It's been over a month and not a single reply
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:41:56 PM)
the call that was put in the forum for the pentiarchy that I just got access too about 2 days ago and as far as I know no other active pcs have access to?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:42:03 PM)
Even a reply of "what the hell do you weant me to do about it Lord Harrier' would have been more proactive and driven a player centred and run scene.
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:43:43 PM)
and maybe I misunderstood him- but every time I came to him with something about the court he said to be patient- certainly seemed like he wanted me to do nothing since he kept saying over and over that he didn't want to punish the absent tee players for rl- but to be honest I've worked hard to have eagles a working group- if it's taken from Jacqui by anyone other than Swan I doubt she will stay in the court
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:45:44 PM)
Well, that of course would be your choice jaquie but to comment on that scenario would again give you too much information that regards the meta-plot. You say you want Perri investigated? Do it. Get into an online scene with Vicars and do it. This is exactly the kind of thing Nasty wanted
Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:46:11 PM)
i can poke Vicars for ya..
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:46:19 PM)
but again, I cannot address the issues if you keep raising new ones
Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:46:23 PM)
since . well Alex is supposed to work for him
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:46:57 PM)
I'm trying, but it would have been nice if we had had more clues to it- Jacqui and Perri were supposed to be freinds so with something wrong Jacqui should have been able to pick it up but he glossed over every scene where jacqui was talking to perri, I'm sorry- but I'm very frustrated- their are a lot of issues- a lot of reasons that I've not been logging on lately
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:47:43 PM)
Perri stormed out of court because you argued with her. Perri is a weak Tyrant and yes, Jaquie and Perri were friends. Has she contacted you lately?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:48:13 PM)
has she invited you to tea? Has she seemed distant, aloof, off balance?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:48:45 PM)
*s* well?
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:48:48 PM)
well I was under the impression Nasty just didn't like to play female charactesr- and Jacqui didn't used to be a weak tyrant- Perri used to be a competent leader- and honestly I don't know how she's seemed- every time something has happened with them like Jacqui going to report to her Nasty just took the information- no scene- that's why I thought he just didn't like playing her
Alexander Blake (Apr 1, 2011 11:49:11 PM)
its not Perri.., some earthbound replaced her
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:49:46 PM)
Perri didn't used to be Jacqui has never been tyrant and honestly even though she can do it her player doesn't really want to if we can get a strong perri back somehow
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:50:33 PM)
There has ay every stage, been more than one st available to play Perri. If you noticed these changes and not once made any IC move to quetion them, but instead made many complaints, comments and arguements about such to other players and ST's, could that in fact engender just as much ST frustration as it has your frustration?
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:51:07 PM)
I understand that you feel dismenpowered because you have not had adequate information
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:51:10 PM)
I didn't notice the changes until the last 2 court scenes because I didn't get any scenes with her-
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:51:38 PM)
and honestly a npc changes when a new st takes over and that's our only clue- I honestly just thought that like every other thing he wasn't left adequate notes
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:51:50 PM)
However, what information you have had, or the fact that the Tyrant seeminlgy 'cut you out' you have not acted upon anyway
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:52:36 PM)
I didn't have that information until recently- I was under the impression that things were going as normal off screne and that Nasty just didn't want to play her- and I sent a fpm to Vicars last night about setting up a scene to talk about it
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:53:50 PM)
take Maksism as an example of what I'm talking about- I don't knwo what he could or couldn't do under Steeve, Under Peach he was fucking with Jacqui's high society connections, under Nasty Jacqui investigated to find out what his connections were with the intent of fucking back- under Nasty he didn't have the high society connections to screw with her
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:54:09 PM)
Well, now things are different :) And as promised, I am trying to clue you in to what you have missed, could have done, could have seen. You have mentioned a few times today that you 'thought' and 'assumed' somethings on an ooc basis. This sounds to me less ST failure, more player /ST communication. Not suprising considering that Nastyb has been trying to maintain the venue despite always being just a temp
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:55:16 PM)
That is because, for reasons I will not divulge, Maxsim has recently lost all his High Society influences hon, as a part of the ongoing story
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:55:20 PM)
well I would ping him when I saw him and tell him- Jacqui is coming to see Perri and talk about this or that- and he would say ok and not want to run the scene- so what should I have thought?
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:56:05 PM)
ok- he made it sound like it had always been that way- things changing when new sts take over- it's hard to tell what is part of a sl and what is just something that needs to be handwaved cause a new st interprets something differently
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:56:27 PM)
I cannot tell you what you should or should not have thought hon, but what I can tell you is that I think a lot of people assumed much about what was going on in court while they had absolutely no idea lol
Legion (Apr 1, 2011 11:56:43 PM)
How about this doll
Jacqueline Rose Leblanc (Apr 1, 2011 11:56:44 PM)
if he won't run the scenes for us though how are we supposed to know