Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:50:37 PM)
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Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:50:40 PM)
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Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:50:41 PM)
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Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:51:51 PM)
-through his comfortable rest in the Barracks he groans and wakes up, shaking his head and feeling the Pain, slowly it came back to him and he started growling, letting the Rage flow out he threw back his head and let out a Howl, charging out of the barracks on all fours and gunning straight for Mark, the look in his eyes showed that he clearly was deep in Frenzy-

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:52:19 PM)
((Bascially Crom, under usual circumstances, you get knocked out that kills the frenzy period. You'd wake up, but it would be a fresh rage check to see if frenzy or not because you'd be out of it. But you have Berserker merit. Are you then FORCING your PC into a willful frenzy?))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:53:03 PM)
((Which the merit allows....but it would be a Forced frenzy....as your original frenzy has run it's course))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:53:07 PM)
(Never frenzied before, I was just knocked out flat, healed a Level, Forced Berserker Frenzy)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:53:16 PM)
*Mark instantly shifts to Crinos the Moonsilver Blade coming into his hand as he turns to face the Charging Crom*

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:53:50 PM)
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Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:01 PM)
(init)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:04 PM)
((OK so ......upon waking you choose to use Berserker merit to force yourself willfully into a frenzied state?))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:16 PM)
(can i roll init as well?)

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:26 PM)
16b7)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:38 PM)
((Crom....answer my question))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:46 PM)
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Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:48 PM)
(yes, thats what my post says)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:54:57 PM)
[ init 29B9 ]

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:55:21 PM)
(15b7)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:55:23 PM)
[ Is crom in Hispo? ]

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:56:07 PM)
Crinos, sorry, forgot to post that)

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 8:56:18 PM)
((Sorry if I'm intrudeing. I took the announcement as a summons to the scuffle for garou that might be on the brawn?))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:56:49 PM)
((So you'd be in on this frackus? If so roll init))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:57:22 PM)
((Crom so it's my understanding you intend to do everything in your PCs power frenzy wise to try to kill Mark?))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 8:57:30 PM)
((21b 16))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:57:58 PM)
pretty much, Crom has snapped, was bound to happen)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:58:29 PM)
((Noted: Realize then this is a potentially lethal scene for both parties, lethal force often being met with potential lethal force.))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:58:43 PM)
[ yuup ]

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:58:56 PM)
(Not both parties, The Ranking Garou and his packmate are going to kill me after Provoking the fight)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:07 PM)
(what?)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:10 PM)
[ Mark's packmates arn't on ]

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:14 PM)
(that's. not. hour garou law works?)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:18 PM)
(there's at least a trial...)

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:34 PM)
(Or whoever Tristan is lol, dont bother be either way)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:37 PM)
[ He's attacking the Tribal Alpha ]

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:37 PM)
((Pardon, but YOU are chosing to wake up and trigger a Berserker frenzy. That doesn't sound like a conspiracy.))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:45 PM)
(Tristan's just a ranking dox.)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 8:59:53 PM)
(and a coggie. so he's involving himself.)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:00:05 PM)
((Reads screenies))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:00:14 PM)
((It could go either way, really))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:00:24 PM)
(Im not gonna Argue, I can explain it further later, right now we are holding up two scenes)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:00:45 PM)
((So I'll go ahead and run this then.....))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:01:05 PM)
(i think i declare first becuase I go last. Shift hispo, spend gnosis on gift mercy, bite crom)

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:01:16 PM)
and fyi, no such thing as a Tribal Alpha)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:01:38 PM)
(although ws i'm not sure- does the bite count as a split becuase of the shift?)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:01:53 PM)
((You use rage to shift?))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:01:58 PM)
[ For the Chat there is if you have a Issue with it then Address it with the HST ]

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:02:02 PM)
((no, cant use rage and spend to get mercy at the same time))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:02:12 PM)
((then yes))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:02:29 PM)
((ok. then i'll roll it as a split in hispo. actually can i do shift/bite/bite as the split? and i wont change again. sorry)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:02:34 PM)
((pause))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:02:50 PM)
((Declaration order: Tristan (already went), Crom, Wil, then Mark))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:03:17 PM)
((And we can argue semantics at the end of the scene if you wish, though remember I am just a Narrator))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:03:49 PM)
(Claw/Claw)

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:03:56 PM)
(and 3 rage)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:04:05 PM)
(you have Dex 5 Wits 5?)

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:04:11 PM)
((Gotcha. I'll try to keep the OOC talk to a minimum and relevant. Will responds to the howl at a run and will grapple Crom, spending a point of rage to shift into crinos))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:04:19 PM)
(Wait, lol, sorry, tired, 1 Rage, and Its Dex when your frenzy)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:04:45 PM)
((*stops checking book*) Wil declare

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:04:53 PM)
[ k ]

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:05:11 PM)
((Come running, point of rage to shift to crinos and grappleing Crom))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:05:31 PM)
((Wil how far were you?))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:05:57 PM)
[ My Declare Claw (rage for Spur Claws) and 2 Rage for extra Actions]

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:06:03 PM)
((LIkely performing guardian work on the brawn. I'm not sure quite where this is set, so he could arrive relatively quickly, or in a few miniuts, whatever makes for a more dramatic scene))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:06:41 PM)
((Wil to be fair I'd say you arrive next round, but can spend rage so that you do so))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:06:51 PM)
((Sounds good))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:07:42 PM)
((OK....Mark roll em and post. Someone jumps the gun on turn I won't be happy. Trying to organize chaos so cut me a break and just go when I prompt you...thank you))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:08:39 PM)
[ 3 suxx to hit should I just roll Damage since he's in Frenzy and can't really redirect to dodge?]

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:09:31 PM)
((Yeah....I suppose so thats the disadvantage of frenzy...you don't think to evade you just keep coming. But then again ignoring pain mods is a nice thing))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:11:06 PM)
[ 5 Suxx damage and Spur Claws is now Active. On a successful claw attack the characker makes will bury his claws into the victim, where they stay stuck after they rip from the Ahrouns claws. Until the victim takes the time to pull them out (which takes a full turn) they will suffer +2 Difficulty on ALL actions. ]

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:11:44 PM)
(Im Dead)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:11:54 PM)
((what book Mark?))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:12:06 PM)
(Players Guide to Garou Page 188 ]

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:13:27 PM)
((OK I'll have to grant the effect now that I see wording...as a pain based gift probably would be blocked by frenzy...but this is more a poison thing.))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:13:28 PM)
((crom wait a sec please. i think you may not be)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:13:39 PM)
((as if you shifted from homid to crinos, doesnt the bashing wipe out?)

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:01 PM)
((hes had 10 minutes KO time?))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:02 PM)
[ yes]

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:12 PM)
((yeah so you have 2 agg only that you didnt just soak))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:14 PM)
[ he shifted all bashing damage is gone ]

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:15 PM)
((not the bashing))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:23 PM)
((bashing would have regenerated))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:14:32 PM)
((so it's your turn.))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:15:15 PM)
(1 succ to claw)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:15:33 PM)
[ diff 8 on all actions ]

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:15:40 PM)
(Crom your attacks are at diff 8...due to his gift))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:15:44 PM)
(then fail)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:15:58 PM)
(okay, i prerolled mine. 4 bashing followed by another 4 bashing to soak))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:16:03 PM)
(I forgot the Spur claws)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:16:28 PM)
[ Frenzies btw can't split actions]

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:16:31 PM)
*Tristan hearing the howl would have turned around and taken a leap, in mid leap shifting to his hispo form, some kind of gift being activated, and quickly latched his teeth onto crom, aiming for the ahrouns throat for some reason*

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:17:00 PM)
(took 3)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:18:02 PM)
((need to roll the 2nd soak?))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:18:49 PM)
Im Out)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:19:30 PM)
*and would hold the ahrouns throat until he shifted back to homid, oddly, despite tristan's form there was no blood - or even scratches from his fangs when he finally released the unconcious crom and looked over at Mark* ~ws~ What is going on?

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:20:56 PM)
*Seeing the now Unconscious form of Crom for the second time* ~GT~ He charged and attacked the Alpha for the Tribe and a ranking Member fo the Tribe. He will face Fenris Law.

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:21:18 PM)
*Crom is KO again.....*

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:21:32 PM)
~ws~ Is there a Fenrir Dox who isn't a packmate to either of you?

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:21:47 PM)
*more said of curiosity, didnt know all the fenrir these days*

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:22:01 PM)
*The big bad wolf slows to a jog as he draws closer, looking to the remains of the fight and shakeing his head, scenting the air as he looks from the bleeding man to the others*

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:22:04 PM)
~GT~ We will bring one in from outside this is Fenrir issue.

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:22:49 PM)
~gs~ Mark-yuff. with all respect, if it happens in the sept it's generally a sept issue.

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:23:22 PM)
~gs~ That and I dont see any reason that it cannot be handled by a dox of this sept, instead of making us look unable to handle our own problems to outsiders.

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:23:38 PM)
*perfectly calm sounding in his tone, neither upset nor angry, just, sort of telling it like he sees it*

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:23:39 PM)
Anyone hurt seriously? *He ask in his rough voice, looking to Tristian and Mark then down to Crom*

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:24:11 PM)
*to Wilhelm* ~ws~ Crom's a bit banged up but less so than you'd think.

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:24:12 PM)
~GT~ He disobeyed a direct order from me. I am the Alpha of the tribe and sit on the Elders Council. *shifting to Homid but keeping an eye on Crom* I understand your concerns but this is a tribal issue not a Sept issue. He attacked the Alpha of his tribe. As A Fenrir he will face our Laws.

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:24:27 PM)
((As for the "tribal Alpha" roll, while it's not an official position as outlined in sept books, Garou are hiarchical in nature. Tribes will have local elders, or leaders defined. What they may choose to call this leader probably varies by tribe or even region. So as for the "tribal alpha" bit.....it's legit enough in tribal house...but if you dislike my take please talk to Gabbygirl when shes not handling a scene.))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:24:46 PM)
((no it's fine, it's an ic argument anyhow))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:24:54 PM)
(No thats fine, Ill keep it IC)

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:25:28 PM)
*rolled his eyes slightly* ~ws~ If you insist. *clearly disagreed but, apparently didn't think he had enough to stand on to persue the argument* You got it covered when he comes around? I wager he's going to be hella pissed at you still.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:25:34 PM)
Sounds like a challange to Mister Renner. Mister Doomblade's his terrtory, and I don't care to dispute the matter. That said, he brawled without permission on the sept, you can expect a loss of renown for that

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:25:58 PM)
(good thing I dont have any Renown?)

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:26:10 PM)
((Shush you, you are knocked out))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:26:36 PM)
((And you don't want to know the punishment if you lose renown when you are out. It involves spankings then haveing to stand in the corner))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:26:37 PM)
*to Wilhlem* ~ws~ And the kin standing not 20 feet over there is my pack. I'd consider a frenzying garou as a threat to her. as well as other sept members. but I do believe I already said I'd let it go. *narrowed his eyes at the shadowlord*

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:26:39 PM)
((Keep it IC, seems the best policy at this point))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:27:42 PM)
Fair enough. Mister Renner, if you would remove your friend from the brawn to sleep it off?

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:28:02 PM)
*was giving Wilhelm this look* ~ws~ I think I and Mark have it covered Wilhelm. Aren't you supposed to be on patrol?

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:29:11 PM)
*nodded to Tristan* I agree he will face punishment. The Truthcatcher is my packmate so if you feel that it should absolutely should have a Sept handle it, I will hear your reasons. He was unconscious so he worked himself up into a Frenzy and there are kin of multiple tribes here that could have been in danger so if you feel certain about it I will hear out your reasoning and we can maybe come to an agreement?

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:29:41 PM)
If I was at my post I wouden't have come. I was checking on the other guardians hopeing to find a calith sleeping on the job. *He turns his attention to the wolf and considers a moment, tilting his head to the side, watching Tristian thoughtfuly as he takes out a pack of ciggerets, slowly tapping one out*

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:30:03 PM)
*nodded to mark, ignoring wilhelm* ~ws~ It's mostly that it happened on the bawn, and posed a threat to kin of multiple tribes here, as well as garou of many tribes.

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:30:12 PM)
~ws~ Were the others not around, I would completely agree with you.

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:30:49 PM)
~ws~ And I dont assume for a moment that you're wanting it to be tribal to avoid punishment for him. I intend no such insult at all.

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:31:36 PM)
((I'm keeping available until everyone feels this is settled for the time being, in case NPCs are needed or further moderation))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:32:18 PM)
*Shakeing his head and turning he leans down, grasping one of Crom's scarred wrist to draw him across Wilhelm's back as he stands, almost staggering under the massive weight before getting it centered and walking away from the scene of the crime, takeing him away from anything that might get damaged if he wakes up and wants to fight another round*

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:32:35 PM)
*He listened to Tristans reasoning and he truely looked thoughtful at the CoG's reasoning* I conceed that multiple tribes and kin could have been injured. No it's not that at all.. I feel that Sept punishment isn't nearly stringent enough, Fenrir laws are much stricter and harsher. The Master of Challenge is the next in line above the Truthcatcher as Bastian is my pack therefore Conquers Luna's Ferocity will hear the matter. Will that suffice for you?

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:33:18 PM)
*Looks at Wilhelm* He is to be bound tightly so that even his war form may not break them. Until such a time as the MoC can hear this case.

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:33:19 PM)
~ws~ Absolutely. Thank you for hearing me out Mark-yuff.

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:34:00 PM)
((Where is Crom being taken?))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:34:52 PM)
((Wilhelm was going to drop him on the ground away from everyone else and wake him up to see if he's still crazy))

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:35:09 PM)
((Unless he wakes up durning the walk, of course))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:35:34 PM)
((lets assume not, the conversation didn't take that long))

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:36:27 PM)
nah, im logging out for tonight, fpm me when im needed again

Crom Doomblade (Jul 2, 2011 9:36:29 PM)
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Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:36:41 PM)
*Nods to Tristan* I am not above listening to reason and your concerns are sound. *would offer a shake of his hand but Tristan is in Lupus*

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:36:53 PM)
*gave a friendly chuff towards Mark and headed back to watch the others*

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:00 PM)
((Lets assume then he remains KO long enough for others to restrain, I take that as a tacit agreement he goes into custody))

Tristan Redgrave (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:07 PM)
((i'm okay with that)

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:09 PM)
((Seems like. ))

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:11 PM)
[ yup]

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Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:23 PM)
*nods and heads back to the competition*

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:29 PM)
( thanks WS for coming in)

Mark Renner (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:39 PM)
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Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:37:57 PM)
((Wil just assume the Fenrir tribe takes him off your hands))

Windseeker (Jul 2, 2011 9:38:08 PM)
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Wilhelm Faust (Jul 2, 2011 9:38:10 PM)
*Uses the sept's resources for restraining a pissed off werewolf then heads back..*

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