Andy Nichols (Mar 3, 2011 6:19:10 AM)
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Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:19:11 AM)
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Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:19:46 AM)
okay some things have come to my attension.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:20:49 AM)
We have had this talk before, now either the rules on the coi need to be changed or certain things have to stop. Because the players of the venue are not allowed to have kinfolk in a pack or mated to a garou that there garou pc is in the same pack with
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:21:09 AM)
Well that's fine, because I don't actually play a Garou at all....
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:21:28 AM)
I'm Lacie, Not Serenity....
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:21:32 AM)
hold on let me finish a moment
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:23:27 AM)
okay so here is what i need to know
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:23:38 AM)
is serenity having a child for your character lacie?
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:24:00 AM)
.......
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:24:01 AM)
No
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:24:34 AM)
I'm sorry, this is going to come off as rude, but why don't you discuss this with Scary Bunny?
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:24:37 AM)
This is what is being brought up. That serenity is having a child for your character which is why I asked you both into the room so i could squash these rumors
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:26:22 AM)
Serenity is having a Child yes. For Lacie, No. If you wanted to know this, again I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but why not FPM Scarybunnie? She deals with Kinfolk, she deals with our SL's and she know's what's going on with Serenity
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:26:31 AM)
I wanted to get it from you the players before bringing it to scary bunny, So I brought it to you in hopes to get to the bottom of it before turning it into a huge affair on the st end.
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:27:30 AM)
But.... Scarybunnie would know what's going on more than I do. Dealing with it between the ST's would be a better option rather than pulling people into a Room thinking we've done wrong when we haven't
Andy Nichols (Mar 3, 2011 6:28:18 AM)
I'm...yeah. I mean, yes Serenity's pregnant, it's not Andy's, there's no monkey business going on there, and honestly, SB and Spookie know more details then I do, cause it's like, their gig.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:28:24 AM)
There has been coi issues as of late and I wanted to speak to you about them. I only wanted to make sure the child was not a coi issue with your pc as that is what others where claiming.
Andy Nichols (Mar 3, 2011 6:28:51 AM)
Define "others".
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:29:05 AM)
A st on the team andy.
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:29:19 AM)
Then why didn't they ask SB? >.>
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:29:43 AM)
And I did ask if you where both busy before I asked you in here. I would have not bothered you if you did not tell me you had time and where not busy.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:30:56 AM)
She is not awake yet and you where both on so I thought I could just see what was going on so I could have a handle on it and would not have to even bother her with it, if i could just get the simple answer from you both here.
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:31:14 AM)
It's not that. It's the fact that you've brought us in here making at least me think I'm in trouble when it's just some rumour. If it -were- Lacie's child it would have been BBed about, it's not something Lacie would have taken lightly
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:32:09 AM)
A simple invesitgation into said threads would have revealed the awnser your looking for
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:34:29 AM)
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Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:38:14 AM)
I do not mean to be rude or unprofessional but your tone is rather unappropriate. I asked you in here to ask a simple question. Telling me to check the forums or to ask another st whom is not online at the moment is not your place to do. If you feel I do not do enough forum work or you think my skills on the communication of the st's is some how lacking then I must assure you whom ever told you that was sorely mistaken. I asked you in here to get a clean cut answer about a issue that I was told about from another st, I seen you both online. Scary bunnie is not online, I asked if I could speak to you on the issue, so I could get to the bottom of it.
Andy Nichols (Mar 3, 2011 6:38:15 AM)
That said - if there is an issue with a potential CoI, I would deeply appreciate having the people making the inquiry contact me directly, for future reference.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:39:00 AM)
You both said you where not busy and where able to speak.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:40:01 AM)
Noted Andy I asked you in here because it is dealing with your pack and was hopeing you might have insight into it. As it does not deal with your pc directly but your packmates.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:40:19 AM)
But I will in the future pm you like you requested.
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:43:01 AM)
I have no problem with you skills, but I do belive that you went about this the wrong way. Sorry if that seems inappropriate
Andy Nichols (Mar 3, 2011 6:45:26 AM)
Anyway...now that we got that mess sorted, I think I need to find somewhere else to be.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:45:35 AM)
Okay and thank you for your time
Andy Nichols (Mar 3, 2011 6:45:37 AM)
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Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:45:42 AM)
Lacie..
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:46:41 AM)
Gabby originally stepped in to prevent CoI, since half the damned ST/Admin team is in Relentless. So she's a neutral party, trying to get to the bottom of something. Not an incoming missile. She's essentialy doing us all a favor. ^_^
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:46:54 AM)
She left allready
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:47:12 AM)
*sigh* That'll show me for tracking six windows. Lol
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:47:21 AM)
It is rather intimidating for a st mind you to try and deal fairly with a entire pack of admins and st's and expect the same from the players either coi issues rules need to be changed, or some thing needs to be done
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:48:09 AM)
*nods agreement* I've already offered to leave the pack twice now. I think I'll have to have it just Happen, regardless of the protests. >_<
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:48:20 AM)
Every admin on the chat except for hades plays in this pack
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:48:39 AM)
I know. I asked Lacie to come back in.
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:48:45 AM)
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Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:49:14 AM)
Lacie, just to level here. Gabby is doing us all a favor in handling this. Because of the fact that half the Team is in Relentless.
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:49:58 AM)
I know that you, are a Player, and that the headaches accompanying association with the pack can be frustrating..as none of your friends can help for well..ANything that goes pear-shaped. I did that too. ^_^
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:50:14 AM)
I know, and that's fine but I honestly think it would have been easier just to FPM SB and ask. I feel as though I'm being accused of things that aren't actually happening. Sorry
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:51:10 AM)
Thank you for apologizing. And yes, SB is the ONE other ST who can help, but Gabby is a WtA ST, she doesn't need our permission to come and ask her players a question.
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:51:54 AM)
That was it hon. I didn't mean to keep you long, but I wanted that much clear for everyone's sake. Cool?
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:52:36 AM)
I am cool as a cucumber. I was not trying to accuse I just wanted to know if a coi issue was occuring.
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:54:13 AM)
Again, I understand that. But with someone like me, who seems to be in never ending trouble no matter where she goes getting asked to come into a room then being told someone, and someone on the ST team, is saything these things kinda makes me upset. Gabby is lovely, and I'm sorry I snapped, I shouldn't have. But it didn't seem like apressing issue as it was dealt with before so -I- think an FPM asking SB if these alligations were true would have surficed but thats me >.>
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:54:30 AM)
Again, I'm sorry I snapped. I shouldn't have
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:54:50 AM)
All good. Thank you.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:55:18 AM)
I accept you appology, and again I was not trying to Acuse you I was trying to just find the answer to a question.
Dastai (Mar 3, 2011 6:55:40 AM)
Thanks Lacie. Carry on. ^_^
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:55:41 AM)
your
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 6:55:58 AM)
Just got the typo demon lurking around me like hot cakes tonight
Lacie Redford (Mar 3, 2011 6:56:07 AM)
lol
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Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:06:56 AM)
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Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:09:10 AM)
So what needs to be cleared up?
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:09:11 AM)
I just wanted to know if there was a c.o.i issue revolving lacie and your pcs pregnancy. I asked them in to see if the children your pc was carrying was indeed going to become a c.o.i issue. I was not acuseing anyone of anything but trying to get to the bottom of it before it became any sort of madness.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:09:48 AM)
I know the children are for a npc. I only needed to ask that they where not lacieys.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:10:24 AM)
I honestly don't know such a rumor got started and when.....but I would of appreciated the person who thought this rumor would of come to me or scary bunnie directly and I would of told them myself......
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:12:34 AM)
It was actualy a st who brought it to me. I wanted to quickly nab it in the bud. Since Laciey was the other involved and Andy was a pack mate I pulled them in to ask them real quick so I could just get the answer and move on with no harm no foul, or if there was a coi issue of some kind schedual something with the lot of ya. But if there was not a coi issue it is much easier to just ask the players.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:15:49 AM)
But I can honestly tell you my character is not having a child for anyone else but the npc's......I just haven't gotten around to bb it yet....but it's been approved and stamped okay from scary bunnie if you'd like to set the person's mind to ease and get more confermaition form her......
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:17:10 AM)
is there a reason this st couldn't of fpm'ed me? I don't mind if a st has a question about my character and wants to get something sorted out.....
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:17:13 AM)
Spookshow I allready set the persons mind at ease. I told them there was no C.O.I, I also let scary bunniey know when she got to work that i had spoken to your pack mates so she was aware that the issue had arose in the first place.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:19:05 AM)
Because the st is not a wta st, that came to me, and did not fpm information on a wta player. It was not a garou st, so the st did not fpm you.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:20:30 AM)
If it was a garou st I could see them pming you with a question, but they are not supposta be pming garou players since they do not handle garou sheets or garou issues that arise. They are a st of another venue.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:20:37 AM)
That makes sence i hope.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:21:21 AM)
well still...I'm not going to get pissed off about a question like that from someone...I've been asked worst questions :) I'd rather have the rumor delt with directly.....
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:23:44 AM)
*nods*I will let them know to ask you in the future. Tell them they have permission. I really was not trying to acuse any one of any thing, I just wanted to ask simply if the child was for laceys pc or not.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:24:31 AM)
Yes...if they have any questions ...they can come to me directly.....that way I can squish rumors before they get blown up
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:27:13 AM)
*nods* well it did not really get blown up as once i got the answer from laciey i pretty much did not need any more clarification. I really was trying to do just that.
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:28:26 AM)
let me impart a little something on my end
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:30:21 AM)
ok
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:32:51 AM)
if I get a que from a st to look into something for them that might become a issue when dealing with the other "players" in the venue. I check it out, try to get to the bottom of it if i can in the quickest most efficant way. As long as I know some thing as simple as "no serenity is not having a child for laciey" then should anyone else try to bring it up later i can say "play how you think ic but i know for a fact there is no coi issue on a ooc level. and I can go to bat for the players. A pack such as your own, you know and i know has every player watching with daggers just looking for a reason to scream "favortisum" or "COI" and the more i know the easier it is for me to say "there is no coi there is no favortisum" I like the communication so I can do this more efficently
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:35:43 AM)
It helps me all around. currently admin wise the only one capable of bringing any issues to that might arise from your pack is hades. scene wise you have me windseeker and crypt the kin have bunniey but wta st wise its me
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:35:56 AM)
Yeah...unfortunaly it does happen becuase relentless is made up of higher ups has a higher accounting to play by and has to be careful.....but from what I know some players often get defensive right away cuz they think their in trouble or something......I do appreciate you checking this out and telling the person there's no coi....I am sitting here wonder how the world they got that idea in their head *L*
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:39:37 AM)
*nods* yes I noticed the defensive nature. I was perplexed all I could think of was i recently delt with players whom where coi just last week. That had to be resolved, and that perhaps said players are trying to point out coi issues in others saying "ohh but they" to this other st, pointing at you guys, or what ever. I don't know what the situation was or why he thought this. litterly it was "ohh serenity is having a baby for laciey who is wanting a baby for her metis lover and is annas packmate."
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:40:51 AM)
Because when players CHEAT they look to the sts and admins and try to catch them or claim they are getting away with something so they can scream favortisum
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:42:38 AM)
that is all i can even think on why this turned out this way. Otherwise I got no clue I only knew of freaking megan dateing a metis. I had heard there was metis love with someone im not the hump police i dun care who the metis is humping or what metis is humping who on a ooc level and ic my chrs my be all against it but ic my chrs dun know nothing unless its blatantly flaunted infront of them. (ie. two female garou making out together on the front porch of the sept)
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:43:31 AM)
Other wise i keep it ic as a player. Half the time I dun know who is playing who. I did not even realise the other people where coi till one person said in there forum post to me "well i know cause the player also plays my packmate"
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:43:42 AM)
so i was like "well thats no good we need a talk"
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:44:04 AM)
Yeah it's hard to know how a player will react....I only react when I'm being insulted or cursed at...I don't see any reason to get upset over a question .....wow
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:44:48 AM)
That was delt with just last week so this rumor being started seems conviently quick on the retake of that. And I was actually trying to get to the bottom of it so i could back you guys up if there was no coi, or ask for a meeting if there was.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:45:00 AM)
you know next time ...you can always ping me on skype :)
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:45:43 AM)
I will do that, I don't normaly bother people on skype with issues without there permission. But I will do that if you are comfortable with that.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:45:55 AM)
yeah...feel free hun :)
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:46:18 AM)
i only let people on my skype who I will talk to normally....I don't give it out to alot of people
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:50:04 AM)
Same here.. So I will bring these issues to you in the future. I really was trying to avoid any future caos in the quickest possidble method.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:50:35 AM)
it's okay.......yeah...please ...feel free....I promise I won't bite you or anything like that :)
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:52:54 AM)
LOL okay I will do and I have you on my skype.. So you are free to do what ever it is you do at 9am. Das had said you wanted to speak to me, was there anything else you wanted to know besides this?
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:56:18 AM)
no...I just wanted to answer your questions and get things straighted out as quickly as possible...I hate when things linger and fester and mold ....and etc etc.....
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:57:42 AM)
*nods* yup quite frankly i belived laciey when she said no the first time
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:58:10 AM)
yeah....she's a little paranoid about being in trouble sometimes *L*
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:58:30 AM)
i had the room name and time and planned on putting it on the st scene tracker thread so if it ever came up again they could see plain as day its not for her. and my hands where clean from that moment on. i investigated it this is what the player told me
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:58:59 AM)
yeah you could do that......
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:59:04 AM)
i did lol
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 8:59:22 AM)
oh I thoght you were thinking about it......soory ...waking up still :)
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:59:44 AM)
thats was all i wanted a "no its not for my pc" and then it was over lol But she got a bit defenceive she appologised afterward
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 8:59:57 AM)
i forgave her
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 9:00:00 AM)
LOL
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 9:00:12 AM)
yeah she's a little high strung ..but a sweetie in the end
Gabby Girl (Mar 3, 2011 9:00:26 AM)
*nods* i get it totaly get it.
Spookshow OOC (Mar 3, 2011 9:00:59 AM)
okies...I am off to the world of midol and choclate.....see ya later tater! :)
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