Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:19:31 PM)
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Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:19:39 PM)
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Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:20:09 PM)
Alrighty, first thing I see right off that is good news for you is the lores field.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:20:46 PM)
I had no idea how to do those correctly >.<

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:21:15 PM)
So i plugged in werewolf 1, then took spirt 2 for cos 2 and bought wyrm lore

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:21:16 PM)
They streamline things here, which I like as a player as well. Rituals and Law pretty much doubles up to represent your Garou lore. Cosmology takes the place of spirit/umbral lores, and you get a dot free of your tribal lore. So the only lore you had to buy was the Wyrm Lore

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:21:55 PM)
Nice, its the only one I counted a point for, so I might be spot on still

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:25:41 PM)
Fang of the Wyrm is in the Book of the Wyrm, correct?

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:26:40 PM)
Or am I thinking something else...too damn many fetishes with similiar names >.< Not easy on an old man's memory

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:27:01 PM)
ugh, might be, its in the players guide oh thats the only non revised book I have and the only think on my sheet from it....

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:27:03 PM)
Fang of the Wyrm Level 1, Gnosis 3 Septs often give these simple fetishes to new Garou after their Rites of Passage. A Fang resembles just that: a pearly white fang on a leather thong. When the fang is activated, it reacts to the presence of the Wyrm by turning a mottled, bilious green. The more corrupted the surroundings, the darker the fang becomes. The fang clears after being in a Gaian caern for an hour. Any spirit servant of Gaia can empower this fetish.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:27:24 PM)
basicly sense wyrm

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:28:38 PM)
Yeah, I was thinking something else from the Wyrm book that was some Fang. That one's fine.

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:28:46 PM)
What's the other fetish?

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:28:49 PM)
Ha!

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:28:57 PM)
I was like, from teh book of the Wyrm? Oh no no no

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:29:40 PM)
I dont have it copy and pasted, but I can look it up for you, one sec. I've actually got to dig for that one. Its in the players guide to the Garou I think

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:30:28 PM)
Okay, I have that book with me so I can get it. Just wasn't sure if it came out of the tribe book or not

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:32:04 PM)
nm

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:32:14 PM)
Look like its in hammer and klaive

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:32:42 PM)
Have that one too. Give me a sec

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:32:42 PM)
I know I look in those two, I spent four days on the character and changed so much as I read so much, I'm in love with her now. *checks H&K*

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:32:47 PM)
okies

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:35:02 PM)
Yeah, it's out of Hammer & Klaive

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:35:40 PM)
what page!, if you still know

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:35:58 PM)
Do you remember the page number for the Fang of the Wyrm? So I can include it in the notes as well

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:36:08 PM)
Page 76

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:36:27 PM)
*face palm* This is why im putting all my powers and the system for each in my url. This is my first Werewolf in a long time, but I've had a lot of help, a tone of literature. Thanks

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:38:42 PM)
The stats for her Numen are based on teh Owl Gaffling from the Umbra book, so the spirit is actually numerically at Gaffling power, however, I warped the history, personality, and essence of the two animals, of really their Incarnea (sp?) spirits.

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:41:36 PM)
The stats look fine. I may have someone else to double-check behind me, so there is the possibility of minor shifting of the points around but should be minimal.

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:42:44 PM)
I would like to see a bit more in the background concerning how you got the numen. Just a small paragraph tucked in of how the spirit was persuaded to bind wiht Sara and her first encounter with it and that'd suffice since it's a low level companion

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:45:40 PM)
I'm also not sure that Pure Breed 3 is justified with the background. Would you be willing to consent to lowering it down a point?

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:47:02 PM)
I can do that, I assumed at what I read that it was fused with her while she was still a baby. Basicly that her parents martyred themselves to save the Incarnea spirit of the Red Wolf, and as a reward her Grandfather was able to secure the special protective gift of one of the Incarnea's brood. I would assume she first met the spirit around the age of six or seven (first grade) because her grandfather would allow her to roam free around their foothills of the Great Smokies. The Spirit began to show itself in its materialized form and was something Sara-Wells was accustomed to seeing, and even befriending, I would say it wasen't until she began to learn rites and rituals that she learned of the wolves id and its spiritual powers to guide and protect her.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:49:08 PM)
(Well I have Three anscestors, and the Tsali character is a very very historicaly famous cherokee warrior. With her Grandfather that is three ansestors, however (sorry for my typing/spelling) I can easily create another ancestor and add it to the Background, ..... could even do that right now. I spent alot of time working at the NOC just outside the Qualla Boundary irl and could easily toss out more Uktena flavored Cherokee Indian history.

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:50:23 PM)
*Nods* That'd be fine. If you could add the extra bits for both of the backgrounds, there'd be no problem

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:50:36 PM)
Red Wolves are the only wolves in western North carolina, which is also one of the reasons I picked such.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:51:11 PM)
Ok, I will add those bits in right now. I have to run AFK for just a few minutes though and check on someone, then I'll add a paragraph for both.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 9:55:42 PM)
Ok back and typin. Gimmie about ten to fifteen and refresh that forum post

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 9:56:57 PM)
Alright, I'll finish counting your points

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:02:31 PM)
Okay, your numbers are good. You're 2pts under spent actually. I would suggest one point to buy the level 1 rite Preserve the Fetish, and then maybe buy Rite of Binding.

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:04:00 PM)
You may also want to see about getting a pdf copy of the revised Players Guide to the Garou if you can

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:06:12 PM)
I have it

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:06:34 PM)
I have one paragraph done to fully justify Pure Breed more.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:06:43 PM)
working on the history.relationship of the spirt one

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:06:50 PM)
Just checking, since the Rite of Silence and the Fang fetish came from the 2nd ed version

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:07:28 PM)
I lowered your Gnosis to 3, since that's the highest that starting characters can have as a homid, but that was the only major thing I saw that stuck out

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:07:51 PM)
wait

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:07:55 PM)
the Rules says 4

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:07:58 PM)
not 3

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:08:09 PM)
I read it one your forums like, yesterday

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:08:33 PM)
I think that's for Metis characters

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:08:36 PM)
I had her gnosis at 6 and had to drop it to 4 because the rules said Homid were capped at 4 at starting

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:08:44 PM)
No metis is even higher, I promises

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:08:55 PM)
I owe you cookie and backrub if Im wrong, but Im sure im not

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Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:09:07 PM)
Can you check it while I finish this last paragraph

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Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:09:30 PM)
I'll look and see, but I think gnosis 3 is suitable for a beginning character, even a theurge

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Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:10:36 PM)
Hey guys. If you want to hang out here that's fine. Just kind of keep the chatter down for a bit

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Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:13:16 PM)
Also had another ST look at the numen for me while I was waiting, since she's the resident expert on building spirits. This is her suggestion, using the rules on the forums: WP 5 Rage 5 Gnosis 5, Essense: 15 Charms: Airt Sense, Materialize, and Tracking. Normally, level 2 numen only get 2 charms, but I consider Airt Sense to be innate so it's not something I'm going to count into the totals

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:14:06 PM)
But but look at all the spirit stuff I have, the blackgrounds, being a Uktena as well as a theurge. The point of this character was to be heavy into magic and spirits. If the Forums allows for 4 gnosis please allow me such.

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:14:27 PM)
Well That's fine with me I will change the spirit right now to those stats and three charms

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:14:42 PM)
I can change the stats since I have the sheet open still,

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:16:02 PM)
Oh ok I meant on the forums, I had the spirits states there too so Im changing them to wp 5, rage 5, gnosis 5, E 15, Airt Sense, Materialize, and Tracking

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:16:08 PM)
stats

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:16:14 PM)
Ah, alright

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:17:07 PM)
And I checked the forums and you are correct about the gnosis. So I can leave it at 4, but that will leave you without the extra two rites. Which you may want to pick up fairly quickly ICly

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:17:20 PM)
You got it!

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:17:33 PM)
I also added those paragraphs :}

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:19:21 PM)
The NPC Grandmother Hilma would be a good source to go to for those rites.

Optimus Hades (Feb 23, 2011 10:19:37 PM)
But for now, you're sanctioned. Log in and out so I can make certain the icon stuck

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:19:39 PM)
Ooooo, thanks for that Tip!

Sara-Wells Ravenclaw (Feb 23, 2011 10:19:46 PM)
You got it

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