Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:33:40 PM)
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Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:34:53 PM)
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Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:35:08 PM)
Alright let me go over and see what I can find.

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:36:47 PM)
For freebies I upped 1 attribute and 4 abilities for a total of 13 freebies

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:37:17 PM)
Alright first things first I can tell you your attributes are off.. Starting 7/5/3.. you 7/5/4 but your Socials you have to pay for that second 4 with Freebies as you cannot have 2 4's in attributes without spending hte freebies

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:37:27 PM)
it's like min maxing we don't allow that

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:26 PM)
ahhhhhhh

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:38 PM)
didn't know that about social

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:42 PM)
that's the first problem I am seeing

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:38:46 PM)
let me continue

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:40:09 PM)
Let me read your background real quick

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:41:10 PM)
this is email I got from Deem

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:41:13 PM)
Dig the background, well laid out. Good opening for growth in Resources, but it'd take lifting Finances to get it. Little wary about having Melee 3 and Dodge 4, yet never throwing a single punch. The sheet in general falls just within the guidelines of creation rules, but I'd prefer to see a bit more balance in it. Animal Ken 0, never had a pet? Etiquette 0, in Clan Tremere? Streetwise 0? Survival 0, never camped? Academics 2, but he has a Doctorate, which is 4? Just to name a few. As it stands, I've got you at 24 freebs including Merits. Even with 7 in Flaws, you're overspent. Check out the sheet and either make the changes or let me know what you want to do.[/quote]

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:41:56 PM)
yeah I am reading it now... the BG helps us find out your justification for the skills you take

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:42:21 PM)
Like... why you have drive 3 and melee 3 and no other skills

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:42:59 PM)
motorcycle racing and fencing lessons from both dad and college... brawling isn't a part of fencing

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:43:35 PM)
*nods*

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:44:56 PM)
what i'm mainly concerned about is the math

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:45:05 PM)
*nods*

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:46:33 PM)
Alright here's where I am seeing points

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:47:58 PM)
Starting attributes 7/5/3 you have 4 / 5(with second 4) / 7.... so That's 10 points there Plus you would need to put a point in your social or physical to denote your secondary choice

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:04 PM)
mental being your primary

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:40 PM)
ok so if i made it cha 3 and manip 3 then i wouldn't have to spend from freebie

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:41 PM)
you have 16 / 6 / 11 for your abilities so that's 12 points there.

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:48:54 PM)
correct

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:09 PM)
you would spend freebies in your physical for those 5 points

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:14 PM)
right

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:29 PM)
so 5 from attributes

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:33 PM)
so if you moved the 4 to a 3 and put a 3 in charaisma you would have 5 in attributes

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:48 PM)
abilities... i'm not tracking

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:49:52 PM)
you have 12 points in abilities so that brings us to 17 points

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:16 PM)
You have 16 Talents

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:20 PM)
6 Skills

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:25 PM)
11 Knowledges

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:50:36 PM)
starting being 13/9/5

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:05 PM)
So each skill is 2 points 6 points from Talents, 2 points skills, 4 points knowledges = 12 points

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:27 PM)
my knowledges started at 9

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:40 PM)
i have 2 extra dots there

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:41 PM)
exactly and you have 11 points in there

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:46 PM)
so that's 4 i spent

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:49 PM)
yes that cost 4 points

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:51:58 PM)
so thats 9... sorry if i'm a bit slow in the head right now

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:16 PM)
3 dots in abilities 6 points

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:33 PM)
Okay here is the Math

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:35 PM)
1 dot in the other so 4 6 2 is 12.......

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:38 PM)
got it

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:46 PM)
so i spent 17 of the 15

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:52:48 PM)
i'm 2 over

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:00 PM)
Yes

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:04 PM)
your willpower is a 2?

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:05 PM)
so remove 1 dot and i'm straight

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:11 PM)
but your courage is a 3

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:13 PM)
i guess

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:19 PM)
you should have WP 3

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:23 PM)
i dunno much about virtues and willpower

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:36 PM)
Starting WP = Starting Courage

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:42 PM)
ok

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:53:47 PM)
Humanity = Self Control and Conscious

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:14 PM)
ok so i make cha 3 and manip 3 and remove 1 dot of something in abilities and my math is perfect?

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:30 PM)
besides the will thing

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:34 PM)
Numerically yes.

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:37 PM)
ok

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:43 PM)
and i'll take his advice on some stuff

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:48 PM)
like the etiquette

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:48 PM)
That doesn't mean I have any input on what gets approved with your stuff

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:54:50 PM)
it makes sense

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:21 PM)
ok thanks menthril... i'll move some dots around a bit to make him happy but i'll justify those that i think i should have

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:26 PM)
i appreciate your help

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:31 PM)
Alright

Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:37 PM)
glad I could help

Nathaniel Crawford (Jun 20, 2011 6:55:45 PM)
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Menthril (Jun 20, 2011 6:56:30 PM)
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