Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 9:56:39 PM)
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snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 9:58:05 PM)
Alright. Let's have a look
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:00:15 PM)
Couple of thins:
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:00:20 PM)
why start with occult 4?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:00:59 PM)
Gypsy lore, superstitions, etc. Astrology and a lot of divinitation has roots in the occult.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:01:18 PM)
divination*
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:01:25 PM)
I'm not comfortable with it starting that high
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:01:36 PM)
and you have one six point wonder ou want to start with, or two three point wonders?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:01:47 PM)
and lastly, let's talk about the arete 3 and then I'll tally your sheet.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:05:01 PM)
The Wonder is a form of grimoire, and made with the guidelines in Forged By Dragonsfire which bases point cost on level of arete taught + level of sphere(s). So arete 3 and entropy 3 make it six points. The drop down didn't go past 5 so I put it in two categories. The grimoire and indepth history I've written address the grimoire and its use. The only thing more it offers with the sheet as it is is the possibility of learning Entropy 3. It's an heirloom handed down the Kallap line so I figured there was significant basis for it as well as most of its potential already having been used in the background.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:06:19 PM)
And as a unique foci Mala would not be letting anyone borrow it, of like paradigm, to abuse the mechanics of it.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:06:59 PM)
I understand. something that powerful though, I'd like to see go by deschain.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:07:15 PM)
I'm hesitant to allow the enemy, and your points seem to be a bit off.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:07:21 PM)
but not badly
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:08:13 PM)
As a compromise would it be easier to lower the wonder to three and have it just be for Entropy 3 at this point?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:08:30 PM)
Do you know when Deschain will be on again? i heard he had irl complications
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:08:36 PM)
As I need to reread forged by dragonsfire, I want you to hang on for a moment and let's look on the rest of your sheet.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:08:53 PM)
becauase I do want to get you playing, and I see how you're trying hard to pay attention to concept. I dig that.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:09:24 PM)
did you want talents or knowleges to be your primary?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:10:04 PM)
Knowledges were primary. I know a spent like 6 freebies in anothewr column though.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:10:10 PM)
Ok.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:10:18 PM)
anything over 3 in your abilities comes from freebies. did you remember that?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:10:47 PM)
Well if we're lowering occult to a three, then it won't matter, right?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:11:08 PM)
eh, tell you what. *coughs, gets out her note-taking penciil* tell me why it's critical to the pc to leave it at a 4 :)
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:12:06 PM)
...sadly its not critical. About the only intregal and critical piece would be the tarot deck grimoire.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:12:22 PM)
Ok. Would it be OK if I moved that one dot to somewhere else then?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:12:30 PM)
Enigmas?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:13:14 PM)
That works beautifully
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:13:36 PM)
now the arete 3. I see you need that to work that wonder, do you not?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:17:06 PM)
It was learned from the deck. The grimoire is a magical wonder that a previous mage has invested themselves into to give fellow mages, of like paradigm, their insights. Some are attuned to Enlightenment (Arete), others to Spheres, and some rare few teach a bit of both. The item and its insights were very fitting for the euthanatos gypsy. The following grimoire 'seekings' were insights into her Gran's death, giving her greater understanding of the Great Wheel.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:18:43 PM)
so it is or is not essential to the wonder?
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:19:08 PM)
It's essential to the background, but not the Wonder, no.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:19:37 PM)
Ok. hmmm
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:20:10 PM)
let me think this over. You're being marvelous, btw
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:20:17 PM)
The Wonder is what granted Arete 3. It's a "raw potential" type feel to the character. she's enlightened, but not vastly schooled in spheres.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:20:45 PM)
so this is how I see your points spread out: 6 in abilities, 8 in arete, 6 in the wonder, -3 in flaws
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:21:04 PM)
So I'm somehow 2 over?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:21:32 PM)
no, one over.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:21:44 PM)
becuse the wonder took up one of your background dots, and I'm cool lwith that.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:21:57 PM)
6+6+7 = 19-3 = 16
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:22:12 PM)
Tell me how you see your enemy playing into things.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:23:06 PM)
I think you miscounted. Mage's get 7 backgrounds, correct? At 11 bg points that's 4 there, not 6?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:23:22 PM)
can happen. let me recount.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:23:30 PM)
I still want to know how the enemy plays in.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:24:54 PM)
6(abilities) + 8 (arete) + 4(backrounds) = 18 - 3 = 15
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:25:15 PM)
so let's talk about that, and I am still kinda shaky on the arete of 3 when so many people are startiing with one and two
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:27:34 PM)
In her background Gran has sent her away after Mala revealed to her her harrowing vision of her "death". Gran is a lore-filled Euthie and understands that she is going to be captured by the Nephandi and possibly turned into a Barrabi. I feel she does get turned into a barrabi and that Gran will be looking for her. Nephandi usually have some purpose, given to them by their Malfean masters, or 'senior' Nephandi - so that would be Gran's main goal, but when she has the time she'd be looking for Mala and trying to recruit her, harry her or just bring general misery in Mala learning that her Gran has become an agent of infernalism. I'd be ecstatic for it to be a personal storyline but I know ST's only get some much time, but the hook is there.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:28:34 PM)
I see. The problem lies in whether or not it would ever actually come into play. It's an excellent thing for pc development though.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:28:48 PM)
Yes, which is how I felt about it.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:29:26 PM)
therein lies whether or not I should let it ride as a 2pt flaw, when it might not ever come in as one.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:29:27 PM)
hmmm
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:29:33 PM)
*turns on jeopardy music*
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:29:48 PM)
It's not as bad as some other fluff flaws like Primal Marks and the like.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:30:33 PM)
Have you ever wondered if Alex Trebeck is a nephandi?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:30:45 PM)
and primal marks come into play more often.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:30:53 PM)
I think he'd be a NWO Agent of the Union.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:30:54 PM)
it's good. Go grab your icon. If Deschain doesn't like it, he can chane it
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:31:01 PM)
quite possibly!!!
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:31:49 PM)
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Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:14 PM)
Yay!
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:18 PM)
Thank you do much
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:21 PM)
Ok. just to let ou know:
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:27 PM)
so*
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:29 PM)
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snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:31 PM)
the arete 3, the wonder, and the flaws that weren't really flaws bothered me.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:45 PM)
I'm going to trust you not to go crazy with that. Why? Because your concept is great.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:49 PM)
and I like concept. A lot.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:32:51 PM)
Have a good time
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:33:09 PM)
*handshakes*
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:33:10 PM)
Thank you Snowcrane.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:33:17 PM)
*shakes hands*
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:33:18 PM)
Mala, thank you for taking that with a graiin of salt.
Mala Kallap (Aug 3, 2010 10:33:56 PM)
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snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:34:21 PM)
Cole What can i do for you?
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:34:36 PM)
I was hoping you could give me a look.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:36:47 PM)
let me take a peek
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:36:54 PM)
Thanks.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:38:25 PM)
what are your mental stats?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:38:27 PM)
i can't see them
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:39:03 PM)
Lemme look. I think its Intel 4, 3s in the other two
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:39:48 PM)
Perc 3, Intel 4, Wits 3
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:40:28 PM)
Ok
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:44:18 PM)
ok
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:44:23 PM)
freebie tally really quickly
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:44:32 PM)
I have one in your abilities
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:44:41 PM)
one extra sphere
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:44:53 PM)
and one extra dot of arete
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:45:09 PM)
so 7+4+2, and then the rotes
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:45:16 PM)
Should be one for WP and one for background
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:45:29 PM)
that might be what I counted.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:45:55 PM)
Talk to me about your rotes.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:46:22 PM)
None of them are offensive
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:46:50 PM)
keep talking. I'm still learning all the house rules for them.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:47:07 PM)
Cole uses his Science to help understand things. How they work togther, how they fit in the scheme of things.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:47:39 PM)
I'm going to sanction the sheet, but I don't know if deschain is gong to be OK starting a PC with twelve dots of rotes.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:47:47 PM)
I'd rather see them put into your thread than on your sheet.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:47:50 PM)
The Reroute Power and Unversal Key rotes are generally used in either his experiements or to get into palces he shouldnt
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:48:07 PM)
Do you have them in one of your threads?
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:48:19 PM)
I havent done any yet
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:48:40 PM)
This is the compromise I'm making.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:48:59 PM)
Okay.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:49:07 PM)
I hav eno problem with that
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:49:10 PM)
*have no
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:49:21 PM)
I don't feel comfortable sanctioing you with the additional 12 points in rotes. What I would like to see is the rotes put into your thread or your requests.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:49:29 PM)
other than that, the sheet is fine.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:49:52 PM)
How many rotes would you feel comfortale with? I'm not super attached to all of them
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:50:19 PM)
As Deschain hasn't given me any hard or fast rules for character sanctioning, and i haven't sanctioned anyone else with them?
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:50:30 PM)
Heh
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:50:36 PM)
0
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:50:51 PM)
Good call.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:50:51 PM)
hang on. checkinig something
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:51:09 PM)
yes. toss them into your thread, as written
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:51:17 PM)
that way if he wants to let them in, he can.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:51:31 PM)
Afffirmative
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:51:44 PM)
that beiing the case, i'm removing them and giving you an icon.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:51:56 PM)
Thanks
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:52:21 PM)
as a starting pc, you get six rotes. I think that's in the corebook. I can squeak that by
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:52:45 PM)
Okay
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:53:14 PM)
so your first rote is a 4 pointer
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:53:18 PM)
2 + 1 + 1
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:54:25 PM)
Okay
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:56:55 PM)
So pick six dots of rotes
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 10:57:56 PM)
Should I go from my previous list?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:59:16 PM)
the one I see:
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 10:59:31 PM)
Universal Key (Matter**, Forces**, Entropy*) – uses increased energy or a change in composition to unlock or lock most mundane physical and electronic locks. Entropy indicates where the lock would be the weakest.
Life Scan (Life*) – viewing life forms through the goggles provides information about the organism.
Analyze Molecular Structure (Matter*) – scans matter to determine composition and age.
Reroute Power (Forces**) – puts extra energy where you need it and gets rid of that you don’t need.
Alter Molecular Structure (Matter**) – vibration of the Etheric strings causes atomic structures to realign along desired forms.
Internal Clock (Time*) – uncanny sense of time and its passage while in use.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 11:02:34 PM)
4 points from those? Reroute Power (forces**) and Alter Molecular Structure (matter **)
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:04:04 PM)
yes, those are both two point rotes
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 11:06:01 PM)
Life Scan (life *) and Analyze Molecular Structure (Matter *)
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 11:06:18 PM)
That should be six, right?
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:06:36 PM)
We can do that.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 11:07:36 PM)
Okay. And I can work on getting the others through ICness
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:08:54 PM)
Sounds good. Let me edit your sheet.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:10:52 PM)
Done.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:10:56 PM)
Enjoy your icon.
Cole Maxwell (Aug 3, 2010 11:11:26 PM)
Rockage. Thanks Snowcrane
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:11:45 PM)
Sure thing.
snowcrane (Aug 3, 2010 11:11:48 PM)
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