Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:25 AM)
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The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:33 AM)
ok
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:34 AM)
so
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:38 AM)
Hello
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:39 AM)
NOW I'll check the BG
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:43 AM)
yay!
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:43 AM)
my apologies for the delay
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:19:55 AM)
umm its not very big so it should not give you a migrane
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:20:05 AM)
ill grab that drink!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:24:53 AM)
bak
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:25:22 AM)
wb
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:26:13 AM)
nice
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:26:16 AM)
evil daddy
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:26:22 AM)
thank you!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:26:31 AM)
almost thought of making him a flaw
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:26:37 AM)
but didnt know how long he would live
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:29:06 AM)
lol
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:29:08 AM)
gotcha
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:29:12 AM)
checking numbers now
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:29:15 AM)
I'll be slow
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:30:04 AM)
ok
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:31:06 AM)
think i put a count in my creation notes section or something i normaly do but hell i dont know i hope its all calculated correctly
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:31:35 AM)
I usually make an excel sheet anyway
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:31:39 AM)
just cause I'm anal like that
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:31:50 AM)
ohhh!!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:36:49 AM)
im not obsessive compulsive or anything..
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:37:25 AM)
we got one small problem... and one thing I don't much like... Let me keep on checking before we work on those. :-)
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:39:31 AM)
ok!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:39:37 AM)
open to suggestions lol
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:39:37 AM)
first, one question
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:39:40 AM)
she's a dance, right?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:40:02 AM)
choriagrapher yes dancer but not like ballette dancer
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:40:37 AM)
ah, thus the expression
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:40:46 AM)
she has to make the coreographies
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:40:57 AM)
but you know that dancing is, actually, performance, right?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:41:16 AM)
the book said athletics
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:41:23 AM)
dance is atheltics
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:41:33 AM)
performance is singing and instruments
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:41:53 AM)
dance is a secondary of athletics
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:42:43 AM)
hmmm, I've always seen people roll dex+performance for dancing.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:42:46 AM)
*Checks*
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:43:31 AM)
indeed
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:43:38 AM)
dance appears as a spec for athletics
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:43:39 AM)
damn
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:43:42 AM)
:)
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:43:48 AM)
my characters are more graceful than I knew
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:43:52 AM)
Yes and people use it incorrectly all the time lol
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:44:03 AM)
they use preformance when it is athletics lol
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:44:18 AM)
I'd say they can use both, and it comes out different
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:44:24 AM)
but that's for a later discussion
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:44:44 AM)
you will need to buy that 4th dot in a skill with freebies hun, it can't be with your 11 points. those only go to 3
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:44:52 AM)
so, we'll keep that in mind for later
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:47:44 AM)
ok
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:54:19 AM)
sorry, I keep getting PMed!
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:54:23 AM)
I should be inviso or something
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:54:51 AM)
lol
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:54:57 AM)
im pacient
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:56:16 AM)
by industry influence
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:56:23 AM)
do you mean the entertainment industry?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:57:48 AM)
yes it is what dusk told me to put
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:57:56 AM)
and its written above
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:01 AM)
under the backgrounds area
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:27 AM)
*Nods* I think the entertainment industry is more media influence than industry influence, wouldn't you agree?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:29 AM)
i took the 1 allie and 1 contact for the 2 influence in entertainment industry influence
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:40 AM)
I'll leave a note to Dusk about it, if you agree with the change
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:46 AM)
and then the 1 in contacts and allies in the high society
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:56 AM)
she said no
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:58:59 AM)
i asked her about it
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:03 AM)
she said not meida
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:14 AM)
or dance
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:20 AM)
but enteratinment industry
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:29 AM)
we'll leave it like that for now
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:29 AM)
:)
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:32 AM)
ok
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:34 AM)
but I'll bug her about it later
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:41 AM)
and we can eventually change that
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:42 AM)
so
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 3:59:57 AM)
can't you only start with one influence at 2, the other at 1?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:00:02 AM)
or am I remembering wrong?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:00:18 AM)
hold on the rule was on the forums
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:00:24 AM)
wiikii
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:00:45 AM)
kay
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:01:17 AM)
Influence: Influence is capped at 2 at creation, with no more than 4 dots in total. Please keep in mind that in order to have influence in an area your character must possess the allies/contacts in order to access that influence. For example if you wish to begin with police influence 2 it would be advised to take a police ally at 1 and police contact at 1 whether these are beat cops, morgue attendants, clerks etc
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:01:33 AM)
gotcha
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:02:03 AM)
so i took the 1 allie for entertainment industry and 1 contact for entertainment industry to have the 2 points of entertainment industry influence and did the same for high society
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:03:35 AM)
okies
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:08:29 AM)
getting pmed again?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:09:25 AM)
no
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:09:36 AM)
I'm not seeing where you spent 2 freebies, you seem 2 short for me
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:09:50 AM)
(Which is good, cause I have suggestions.))
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:10:00 AM)
okies
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:10:20 AM)
you seem to think you spent freebies to raise wp
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:10:24 AM)
but wp 5 seems right to me
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:10:32 AM)
so I have you at 13 freebies
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:11:05 AM)
ahh its said wp starts the same as your highest virtue which is 3 for me so i spent 2 to raise it to five?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:11:25 AM)
For demon venue mortals willpower is recorded as the combination of your two highest virtues
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:11:32 AM)
not just one highest virtue
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:11:56 AM)
ohh
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:03 AM)
then it should be five
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:06 AM)
indeed
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:16 AM)
so, we got those 2 freebies to throw in talents
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:23 AM)
to pay for athletics 4
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:23 AM)
yes then u are right i misunderstood that
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:31 AM)
okay
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:35 AM)
but then you have to select 1 more talent.
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:12:44 AM)
okay let me look
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:13:33 AM)
dodge raised to 2 please
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:13:43 AM)
with all the dodging the evil daddy
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:13:58 AM)
it would likely be good to put in dodge or even alertness
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:02 AM)
lol, did he hit her?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:12 AM)
alertness sounds cooler to me, but either is good
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:13 AM)
yeah its in the background lol
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:20 AM)
okay alertness
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:25 AM)
drop it in there
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:34 AM)
nah, I just saw, it's 2 already
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:39 AM)
so, alertness 2 and dodge 2
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:14:40 AM)
good
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:15:21 AM)
:)
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:16:10 AM)
the one thing I dislike in that sheet is manipulation 1. It doesn't look to me like she would be SO stunted at expressing herself, especially if she teaches. Manipulation isn't all lying and stuff, I know you know.
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:17:00 AM)
charisma is expressions on a stage setting manipulation is more for intimidation and lying
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:17:08 AM)
she is not intimidating nor does she lie
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:17:24 AM)
she expresses her art form
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:20:47 AM)
any time you actively seek to express yourself, including to inluence the feelings of others in positive ways (say, like when encouraging a student), it's manipulation. People tend to view manipulation as only the negative ways of influencing people and charisma as the positive ways, but charisma is more of a passive thing, it's how you are, while manipulation is active. A character with manipulation 1 can barely express himself. I hardly ever see that played out.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:20:52 AM)
Even Jeff is manipulation 2
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:21:00 AM)
(though he might do good for a manip 1)
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:21:21 AM)
the specialties for appearence and charisma fit her concept much better then those of manipulation so sayith the 138 and 139 of the core..
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:21:41 AM)
manip 2 looks especially weird in between cha 3 and app 3. I'd love to see manip raised, either with freebies or by lowering something else.
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:21:43 AM)
there is instruction
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:22:32 AM)
its a secondary ability let me see if its in the demon players i know its in the garou players
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:22:48 AM)
I'm familiar with instruction. But it's not what I mean.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:23:01 AM)
I'm just uncomfortable with the man 1
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:25:28 AM)
it is a manipulation + Instructions roll in the wta players guide so manipulaiton would be considered the roll with instruction
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:25:37 AM)
so give me a sec
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:26:26 AM)
sorry if I'm annoying hun.
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:26:42 AM)
no
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:26:59 AM)
its a logical move on the sheet im not opposed to things that make sence
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:27:30 AM)
trust me, I'm all in favor of the hot female chars in the venue, with cha 3 and app 3 and a nice pic like the one you got for her there on the right. ;-)
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:27:45 AM)
but yeah, the manip thing was bugging me enough to insist.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:30:40 AM)
also... I'm removing the thrall of patrick thing, until it actually happens.
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:30:41 AM)
remove law of 1 minus 1 from survival remove the point in conscience
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:30:55 AM)
giving me 6 points
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:30:57 AM)
k
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:31:05 AM)
add the dot in manipulation
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:32:21 AM)
not sure what to do with my last dot
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:32:30 AM)
any ideas>
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:33:19 AM)
merit or something?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:34:11 AM)
let me check.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:37:56 AM)
approachable, maybe?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:38:00 AM)
she seems approachable to me
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:38:49 AM)
hmm would not go against her flaw?
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:39:32 AM)
let me see the mechanics for your flaw
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:40:18 AM)
no
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:40:31 AM)
trusting means you make bad decisions when it comes to trust others
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:40:53 AM)
approachable means people find it easy to approach you... and get you to make bad decisions maybe
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:41:06 AM)
is good taste allowed?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:41:20 AM)
thats one point
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:41:35 AM)
and it deals with impressing high society and bussiness situations
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:41:48 AM)
oh, yes
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:41:53 AM)
that is allowed and looks great
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:42:08 AM)
i would like that one it seems to fit really well and will help her with her job
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:45:09 AM)
sorry it took so long
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:45:11 AM)
it's done
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:45:16 AM)
out and back in
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:45:23 AM)
thank you!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:45:24 AM)
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Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:27 AM)
Thank you!
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:30 AM)
would you do me the favor of rechecking your sheet, hun?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:36 AM)
You where so pacient
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:37 AM)
and make sure everything is in the proper place?
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:38 AM)
and helpful
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:43 AM)
I was slow. >.<
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:48 AM)
thanks for pointing out the manipulation
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:46:54 AM)
Ehe the slowness did not bother me
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:47:16 AM)
I played a manip 1 char once, properly.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:47:18 AM)
and it sucked
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:47:43 AM)
:)
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:47:52 AM)
well thank you!
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:47:52 AM)
You look very sexy in blue.
The Gwarf (Nov 5, 2011 4:47:57 AM)
my pleasure
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:48:03 AM)
Aww thanks! I love the blue haha!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:48:22 AM)
thank you again!
Angelina Maria Rizzario (Nov 5, 2011 4:48:26 AM)
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