Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:00:51 AM)
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Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:00:59 AM)
Case sensitive...
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:01:00 AM)
LOL
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:01:10 AM)
Indeed. It makes guessing harder.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:02:42 AM)
Alright, what I'm telling you is totally my opinion based on what I've put together from about 5 different accountings. So there isn't any proof, and you can consider it to be as true as you like. But after we talk, I never want to see this goddamn subject raised -anywhere- ever again. Fair?
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:03:18 AM)
Sure. I am just as tired of it as you guys are.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:03:37 AM)
There are days I wonder..but I'll take ya at your word.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:04:21 AM)
First thing you need to know, Hans was the first PC elder they tried on SI, and was a collossal failure. They literally lost half a dozen PCs who deleted or quit playing because of Hans.
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:05:10 AM)
Yep Knew that.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:06:25 AM)
Because of that experience, the entire ST team was wary as hell of a second attempt. However, Lars (the NPC elder) was only Fostern, and they had a slew of Fenrir gunning for the spot. They were a little shy on reasons that the PCs couldn't challenge him, and then they realized that the only Fenrir PC at Fostern Rank at the time, was Anna.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:07:31 AM)
Well the whole team knew Anna IC and OOC, everyone agreed she wouldn't make the mistakes Hans had, and they decided they had a solution. The problem was: Everyone knew Anna IC and OOC. No one could run the scene without CoI. And along came Gabby to the team.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:09:07 AM)
(Excepting Ambient..but he was fired before the SL finished out and left us without an Elder..you were there, you know this stuff.) So the first thing they dump in her lap: Hey, run the challenge for the Fenrir Elder so Anna can take over. Which to Gabby, immediately sounds like Favoritism. And she blows the whistle.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:10:30 AM)
Siggy and Hades are peripherally involved with the venue, they come in and agree that no, you can't just give it to Anna. There has to be a challenge. Gabby talks to tpo Anna, and tpo Anna doesn't even want the job OOCly.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:12:26 AM)
Then pretty much Everyone goes on vacation for the holidays, except Gabby. And she's still got this scene to run. Tpo Anna, starts waffling. "I want the Elder slot" "Oh god no I don't wnat that job." "We need an Alpha, I can do it." "How can anone deal with these people?!" .. You get the idea.
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:12:57 AM)
Yep, pretty much my OOC stance on it.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:15:27 AM)
So Gabby draws up an entire SL, NPCs, Fenrir Sept.. etc. And she gets the team's approval on it, yes Ghostlin knew about Jack etc way back. And Anna continues to waffle alll the way up till the day before the damn challenge is scheduled. Suddenly she says, I'll do it. Get me an Adren challenge so I can be a respectable rank for an Elder. And Gabby literally runs Anna's challenge the night before the Fenrir Alpha challenge, and back dates it so Anna can make it back to the sept in time.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:17:49 AM)
You were there for the challenge itself. Bastian and Lukas step up, and Anna sits it out. Gabby is pulling out her hair on the other side of the screen, and rather than risk that one of us (whom the team didn't know/trust as well as Anna) would become another Hans, she went with the SL and NPC that Ghostlin had approved in advance. Because there was no one around to ask for a decision on it, and she didn't want a mistake like that to be her first introduction to the game.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:18:51 AM)
Of course.. she can't just come out and say that the ST team didn't trust any players in the position but Anna..and truthfully, she didn't -know- that one way or the other. But that's the impression she'd been given and it's what she acted on.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:22:00 AM)
Ghostlin asked her to keep it quiet..because yeah. It looked like favoritism. It was actually just PANIC, but it looked like favoritism and he didn't want the stigma to hit the venue..I'm sure you're aware, Soapbox denizens already like to toot that horn, the last thing Ghostlin wanted was another chorus on that number.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:22:40 AM)
Questions?
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:23:09 AM)
Nope. :) That makes it all crystal clear.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:23:56 AM)
And like I said. I can't prove a DAMN bit of it. Or I'd cheerfully strangle the lot of them.
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:25:10 AM)
Clear communication solves all... :) And I'll say this over and over again. I don't want the position. I was never upset about not getting the position. But, my Character would not let the position go to someone unchallenged so that is the only reason I involved myself in the first place.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:25:26 AM)
For the record.. I decided to level with you on my own. Siggy and the rest have no clue I'm telling you all this. And I'm sure to catch an earful when I let them know what I did.
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:26:15 AM)
Well, for the record. It helps, alot. It makes things a lot easier to move forward.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:27:15 AM)
I'm sorry my initial responses were delayed..but the rest of the Admins wanted to "see what I was sending Geoff". I'm sure you can guess why.
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:28:12 AM)
LOL.. I deal with lawyers and judges at work all day. Believe me when I tell you I can see "C.Y.A." from 3 miles away.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:29:54 AM)
I don't like dancing around verbally IRL, I'd rather just deal the cards and let shit fall where it may. If you can't handle the truth, go play with someone who will lie to you to make you feel better. So yeah, I'll go let the Admin team know I just gave you the entire story (as best as I can figure it) and wait for them to seizure.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:31:00 AM)
*tips a hat* Please. Don't let me regret this? >_< See ya round.
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:32:16 AM)
You're fine. I've already sent my apology to Gabby Girl.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:32:28 AM)
Take care man.
Dastai (May 19, 2011 10:32:30 AM)
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Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:32:32 AM)
later!
Leroi Pretre (May 19, 2011 10:32:37 AM)
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