Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:18:50 PM)
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Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:19:13 PM)
Whole OOC foyar doesn't need to know your sanctioning details. I assume anyone who jumps into this room might actually need me.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:19:20 PM)
sure.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:20:02 PM)
You want a Fang, so if I seem nitpicky or strict on stuff remember you are the one wanting to be of the Tribe of Kings.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:20:15 PM)
That's fine.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:20:49 PM)
It is 2:20 am so if I am not good on answers it is because it is 2:20 am and I am not good on answers :D
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:21:17 PM)
A silverfang RoP wouldn't be something as simple as a race. Being traditionalists that they are the RoP would probably be dangerous. More the typical lets send the cub pack to take out minor Wyrm minions deal.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:21:30 PM)
That's fine.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:21:43 PM)
I sort of ran out of ideas at the end.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:21:48 PM)
Any edits you'll have to make. I can't really alter your backstory.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:22:00 PM)
so if you think that's a better choice then I can put that in as an alteration
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:22:31 PM)
<.< I couldn't remember the term for 'Right of Passage' either
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:22:34 PM)
Yes for a traditinal tribe like SFs, a much better choice. Have them whipe out a nest of formori....just for starters.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:22:46 PM)
Idea off the top of my head anyhow.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:23:38 PM)
Do you have the tribebook?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:23:44 PM)
Have you chosen a House/Lodge?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:24:28 PM)
YEs.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:24:34 PM)
It's unbreakable hearth.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:24:54 PM)
Well, a house, at least.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:25:20 PM)
and that RoP is edited in
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:26:24 PM)
OK you want a PB 4 character. You need to list some ancestry there. I'd suggest going as far back as your great great grandfather and bringing it forward. List only garou ancestors. Detail basics like Name, rank, auspice, and make up one or two deeds if you are creative.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:26:35 PM)
I? No?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:26:46 PM)
What?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:26:54 PM)
I don't want a PB4 character.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:26:54 PM)
I didn't see an ancestry list.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:27:06 PM)
I thought Fangs are PB 4 by default.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:27:10 PM)
No?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:27:11 PM)
I know they are high.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:27:13 PM)
3.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:27:20 PM)
4 is the maximum.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:27:37 PM)
OK....my mistake. Take it only as far back as great grandfather or grandfather.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:27:41 PM)
Fangs still need to have this.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:27:49 PM)
That is fine. :D
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:27:54 PM)
Just you don't need it quite so far back.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:28:11 PM)
While you do that...I'll do the sheet lookover.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:30:39 PM)
I suck at deednames on the fly.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:31:00 PM)
I am usually better at this after I have had time to seep in the character some
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:31:40 PM)
Well theres already someone deeded Pain in Ass...sorry thats taken.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:32:02 PM)
I know. I picked something that was not like that.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:36:47 PM)
FSLR?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:36:55 PM)
What do those EQ abreviations mean?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:37:00 PM)
Film Single Reflective Lens
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:37:04 PM)
They're camera types
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:37:08 PM)
Ah
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:37:16 PM)
one is a digital, one takes film
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:37:31 PM)
you can go ahead and add 'Camera' after that.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:37:35 PM)
i just forgot to.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:38:07 PM)
Will in a moment.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:38:09 PM)
er, well, it means Single Lens Reflector
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:38:21 PM)
but you get the idea
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:38:37 PM)
Enough to know it's not a gun or something wierd I should be wary of.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:38:45 PM)
I can shoot you with it!
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:38:52 PM)
*caclick*
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:39:18 PM)
Tell me when you got the backstory editied.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:41:16 PM)
Realize your concept, that the "damage" doesn't apply to garou cultural understanding. You are a claith. This means you went through all basic training, you understand the litany, and your tribe's expectations. Also this implies you also know what laws not to fool with, like violating cearns etc.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:41:48 PM)
brrrrup.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:41:52 PM)
Yes
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:41:54 PM)
I think so.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:42:00 PM)
He's an asshole, he's not retarded.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:42:13 PM)
Yes?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:42:15 PM)
Spoiled brat is A-OK, just I want you to be aware of the difference before I stamp OK on this concept.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:42:45 PM)
Would....Spoiled be a better word than damaged?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:42:49 PM)
Well, the plan is not to use my concept as an excuse to get mouthy with rank.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:42:53 PM)
yes, I suppose.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:43:00 PM)
I don't know just thinking here.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:43:11 PM)
The concept went through a lot of evolution as it went from my head to on paper.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:43:14 PM)
I know what you are aiming for....just wondering if better words describe it for others.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:43:32 PM)
He's the pouty jerk asshole -that guy-
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:43:43 PM)
He knows how to toe the line just enough to not get in trouble.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:43:52 PM)
like Van the Man
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:44:02 PM)
You are aware garou might pound pouty jerk assholes? Or elders might react poorly?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:44:10 PM)
yes.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:44:16 PM)
Cool then.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:44:34 PM)
I'm not whiny.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:44:34 PM)
I don't mind concepts along those lines, just don't want players upset at potential consequences.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:44:43 PM)
I'm aware that this concept may not last very long.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:44:50 PM)
OK
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:44:58 PM)
Deedname...
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:45:10 PM)
if that happens, so be it.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:45:17 PM)
Should be on there.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:45:22 PM)
'Irreverent Nighthawk'
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:45:40 PM)
I guess it's OK...you can still cliff dive running away from Formori or something humerous.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:46:08 PM)
Or were a nice distraction so your cub pack could do there job.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:46:13 PM)
We could play with that.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:46:25 PM)
that's what I went with. Distraction and flank.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:46:49 PM)
tbh I'm not very good at werewolf.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:47:04 PM)
and if I'm not very good at werewolf I maybe should be someone who is not a very good werewolf.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:47:20 PM)
You chose a difficult tribe to start with.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:47:24 PM)
yes.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:47:44 PM)
but there's not really an easy tribe. I tried playing a child of gaia once and I got very bored, very quickly.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:47:53 PM)
i like playing kinfolks mostly.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:48:20 PM)
On specialities: I'd prefer you select from the book ones. Mostly so STs can more cleanly make the calls when your specialities apply.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:48:26 PM)
Oh, sure.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:48:54 PM)
Manipulation, choices are: Forked Tongue, Unswerving Logic, Doubletalk, or Seduction.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:49:04 PM)
I kinda see you a doubletalk sort of guy.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:49:04 PM)
Doubletalk
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:49:09 PM)
Yeah gotcha.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:49:29 PM)
I get two for languages, no?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:50:51 PM)
Abilities: You may have one ability at 4 with Storyteller approval and inclusion in the character backstory, the exception being combat abilities, which are capped at 3. Not everyone who wants an ability at 4 will get them, it will require suitable justification. You may have no abilities at 5 at character creation. Characters that are not Ahroun are restricted to no more than 8 dots in combat abilities, which includes Athletics, Brawl, Dodge, Firearms, Melee, and secondaries there in; Ahroun are not restricted, but are subject to ST modification if it is determined all the character can do is be a death machine.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:51:36 PM)
Combat stats are fine but besides the fact I need to lower Linguistics to at least 4, why does your PC have Linguistics so high? Your backstory didn't really cover it.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:52:04 PM)
I meant to put that in there, and that slipped my mind.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:52:07 PM)
If I quote things it's from our rules found http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3753
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:52:12 PM)
Ah.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:52:13 PM)
I read it
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:52:17 PM)
Let me adjust it.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:52:31 PM)
but honestly it just didn't occur to me that having linguistics 5 would be a problem.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:52:50 PM)
The idea being that if you can understand people they can't hide secrets from you.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:52:58 PM)
No one starts with 5, with the XP system it leaves room for the PC to grow.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:53:12 PM)
Yes, I understand that.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:53:24 PM)
I'm not arguing with you.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:53:34 PM)
I'm just saying I didn't think about it at the time.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:54:04 PM)
still get 4 additional languages.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:54:11 PM)
Yes, I know that.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:54:12 PM)
so...we need to remove one and that'll bring you into line.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:54:17 PM)
get rid of spanish
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:54:30 PM)
Also frees up 6FB
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:54:45 PM)
Any areas you wish to strengthen?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:54:49 PM)
It should free up 2?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:55:10 PM)
2
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:55:24 PM)
Sorry I look at sheet grids and get blurry eyes after a bit.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:56:15 PM)
Maybe a leadership
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:56:59 PM)
Leadership to 2?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:57:05 PM)
to 1?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:57:14 PM)
2 fbs is 1 ability.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:57:20 PM)
I lost 1 language, i get 1 dot elsewhere.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:57:26 PM)
Just one.....damnit I know this shit. I'm blaming to many PMs.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:57:31 PM)
it's fine
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:57:50 PM)
What do your resources consist of?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:57:57 PM)
*gasp*
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:58:02 PM)
I don't just get free money?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:58:44 PM)
Some family business? Family trusts? Inheritance?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 8:58:53 PM)
Explain to me what it consists of.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:58:55 PM)
Oh, so I -do- get free money :D
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 8:59:38 PM)
He lives off some family money set off to the side, but supplements it with his 'art', which he's able to do with his family money that they set off to the side.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:00:05 PM)
Which is a giant vicious circle.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:07:56 PM)
Sheet seems OK otherwise. Added info to resources.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:08:03 PM)
Backstory all edited?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:08:06 PM)
Thank you
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:08:07 PM)
yes
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:08:10 PM)
Let me look.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:11:32 PM)
Asking if I can fully sanction. They sometimes let me if it's basic enough.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:16:26 PM)
OK green light for full sanction. As you took Harano prone flaw you don't need to make up some mental quirk.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:16:39 PM)
Depression/Harano prone is for flaw.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:16:41 PM)
Oh.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:16:45 PM)
I was going to take Ennui
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:16:51 PM)
Can I just have Ennui too?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:16:53 PM)
Ennui is what?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:16:55 PM)
No points?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:17:06 PM)
it's a Mental quirk from the Silverfang book.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:17:13 PM)
Summarize for me please.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:17:27 PM)
It's one I don't have....already had someone detail Harano prone for me.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:19:01 PM)
We don't fully enforce tribal weaknesses instead we kinda came up with an in house system: Silver Fangs: choose a personality quirk. On a botched Rage roll or a failed Willpower roll; the quirk manifests itself for the rest of the scene. This may be anything like an compulsive need to tidy something, obsession with a certain color, etc. You may spend a Willpower point, depending on the situation to sumblinate this for the rest of the scene. This should be something suitably strange, and should not be played off for laughs. You may take the Derangement flaw instead of this, but at one point less.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:19:02 PM)
'You become easily bored and jaded. It takes significant effort on your part, or that of your packmates, to raise you from this emotionally deadened state'
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:19:18 PM)
I couldn't find that in house system
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:19:34 PM)
Werewolf OOC, under creation rules.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:20:31 PM)
I guess you are free to RP out the Ennui, it seems to be your core personality. I'm not going to add it to the sheet. No need with that flaw you have.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:20:41 PM)
I don't see it
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:21:02 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3753
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:21:10 PM)
I am in that forum.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:21:16 PM)
I do not see what you are talking about.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:21:49 PM)
Oh crap we got a typo.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:22:01 PM)
Old system hang on...I need to tell Gabby.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:22:19 PM)
okay.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:24:28 PM)
Well, you took the flaw anyway...I think that covers whatever. Gabby wants us to tone down the severity of the mental things in game I know....I mean we got one Fang with MPD for example. Maybe just leave the Annui as a RP thing only.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:24:41 PM)
That's fine.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:25:00 PM)
Tribal Weaknesses: Due to issues with game balance, tribal weaknesses are not being used in Sinful Illusions WtA. We are using variant renown rules as outlined in the renown section of the forums. There are a few exceptions to go with the flavor of a few tribes, and they're listed below:
Camps: Taking a camp at character creation is permitted on a case by case basis. Certain camps will be banned by the Storyteller team.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:25:08 PM)
But that is what I found on tribal weaknesses.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:25:35 PM)
We just recently revised it.....apparently it's messy in places. I'll notify Gabbygirl.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:25:46 PM)
Can I offer a tiny bit of feedback?
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:25:48 PM)
I apologize for that.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:25:51 PM)
It's fine.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:25:54 PM)
Sure.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:26:05 PM)
When you revise it? It should not be -as- colorful as it is.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:26:28 PM)
Irony is she did the color thing because others complained about white block text.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:26:33 PM)
Well, yes.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:26:33 PM)
But I'll pass it on.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:26:42 PM)
You should have colors to delineate passages.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:26:53 PM)
I am not complaining that there is color.
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:27:31 PM)
I'll pass it on for what it's worth. :D
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:27:31 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20428#p20428
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:27:36 PM)
But there, in that one?
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:27:50 PM)
that one is hard to read because the colors change so often it is distracting
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:32:13 PM)
Btw...
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:32:17 PM)
relog and get your icon!
Windseeker (May 21, 2011 9:32:22 PM)
Fully sanctioned.
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:32:23 PM)
thank you
Jasper Rollins (May 21, 2011 9:32:24 PM)
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