Sergei Alenikov (May 27, 2011 11:56:15 PM)
yup namtar

SerenePrincess (May 27, 2011 11:56:56 PM)
i haz the book in my lap *pets* my presssioussss

Dusk (May 27, 2011 11:58:42 PM)
Okay :)

Dusk (May 27, 2011 11:59:03 PM)
Going to deny the vengence flaw because that will be wrapped up in SL very soon I think and will leave you witha lot of xp to pay to buy it off.

Dusk (May 27, 2011 11:59:16 PM)
Which means you are 6 freebies over.

Dusk (May 27, 2011 11:59:23 PM)
but I can't give you all that influence.

Sergei Alenikov (May 27, 2011 11:59:30 PM)
*frowns*

Dusk (May 27, 2011 11:59:53 PM)
I can't see the legal influence in his bg or fitting his character at this point.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:00:14 AM)
He would pay off cops and customs people

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:00:20 AM)
So I'd like to remove the legal influence, drop the underworld influence down to 2, add 1 dot of street influence and leave the transportation influence at 2. That work?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:00:36 AM)
absolutely, that is what gives you the transportation influence

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:00:54 AM)
I think for the concept to work though you need at least 1 dot in street influence

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:01:18 AM)
he controls a large portion of arms dealing in the city...i don't know how that would translate into only 2 in underworld

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:01:43 AM)
may i cut in for a moment?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:01:47 AM)
who are your contacts and allies?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:04:27 AM)
His allies would have been the two loyal luteneants or however you spell that and his contacts would be a guy in customs and a guy in the russian mob or a mob if they exist here and i think thats it right?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:04:35 AM)
they'd both be high ranking i spose

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:05:09 AM)
Okay can you give me an outline of them on your xp thread after we finish sanctioning and I'll leave the underworld influence at 3 but lose the legal. Okay?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:05:37 AM)
sure i spose

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:06:16 AM)
At the moment with the concept I'm not really seeing academics 2 and you don't have him speaking english. Want me to shift a point from academics to linguistics?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:06:25 AM)
sure

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:07:34 AM)
and sorry Princess :) Speak at will.

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:08:05 AM)
The other thing I'm not comfortable with is the demolitions.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:08:14 AM)
i was just going to point out that underworld 2 for arms dealing is sufficient for a city... 3 would be for the state, 4 for the country... and 5 is only reserved for heads of the mafia or something similar

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:08:36 AM)
i think it's a different set up for this venue

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:08:40 AM)
We deal with all influence as being city based, since the game is contained in New Orleans though :)

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:08:41 AM)
also, you do understand that the russian mafia isn't really big in New Orleans? It's mostly the Haitian Mafia... which is almost as bad

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:09:31 AM)
He'd just have contacts with different groups who would require weapons...or he'd be a terrible Arms dealer.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:09:52 AM)
*nods* alright, it was just something you might want to think about when you're statting out your contacts and allies

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:10:44 AM)
What I'd like to do is lose demolitions, drop another 2 points from that middle colum and then add two points in the first colum. Namely to streetwise and leadership. That will make your points come out even.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:11:08 AM)
being that you are an arms dealer, wouldn't wits 4 make a bit more sense than intelligence 4? you would need to be able to think fast on your feet in order to get in, make the sale, and get out before someone alerted the cops...

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:11:09 AM)
And I think to have the lieutenants and position you want him to have you need ledership

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:11:29 AM)
>.o sorry, Dusk, i'm stepping all over your talking

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:11:53 AM)
So...a russian arms dealer with military grade hardware wouldn't know how to use explosives?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:11:54 AM)
Intel could be just as important, if not more so with regards to organising shipping times, deals, currency conversions etc :)

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:12:33 AM)
Likely not. You have a character whose basis is not combat, his personal combat knowledge is low. His organising of shipping, mafia connections, deal making etc is what drives this concept.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:12:41 AM)
not necessarily... he knows /what/ explosions are, just not how to prime and detonate them, or how to difuse a bomb... that's what his lieutenants are for

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:13:26 AM)
Using demolitions is something that would be paired with either a military background or more likely a science/technical background.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:13:38 AM)
An arms dealer cannot sell weaponry he does not know how to use...

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:13:48 AM)
It's like a car salesman who doesn't know how to start a car

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:13:54 AM)
but he's not shipping in explosives, he's shipping in weapons

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:14:01 AM)
but if you feel it's nessisairy then fine

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:14:09 AM)
Explosives are weapons

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:14:22 AM)
Arms...not guns

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:14:57 AM)
Smuggling in guns etc and smuggling in bombs is different.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:15:02 AM)
yes, but you can't sneak explosives by customs without setting off the dogs...

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:15:13 AM)
even with paying the customs officials off

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:15:15 AM)
in coffee you can..

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:15:22 AM)
As said, yes there are underworld hits, drive buys etc, there aren't entire buildings coming down.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:15:22 AM)
you can do it with heroin and coke

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:15:38 AM)
Yet dusk...yet

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:15:42 AM)
If you want to start shipping in explosives, this is going to become an unworkable concept, because I'm not willing to sanction a pc with that bg

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:15:52 AM)
fine...

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:16:42 AM)
It's a chat balance issue, you could approach Legion with it, but personally I can't sanction a bg of shipping in and distributing explosives to the city.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:16:55 AM)
I was killed by an infernal flame throwing shot gun...

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:17:18 AM)
Yes. NPC's played by ST's have access to things that PC's simply do not have.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:17:19 AM)
that wasn't shipped into the city in a coffee can

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:17:28 AM)
Thats fine...

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:17:33 AM)
He'll be a gun merchant...

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:17:43 AM)
guns, armour etc is all fine.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:17:54 AM)
*shrugs*

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:18:13 AM)
what does that shrug mean?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:18:24 AM)
:) I can't interpret vague body language posts.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:18:37 AM)
It's fine, do what you think should be done

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:18:54 AM)
cool, okay so lets lose 2 more dots from the middle column. What do you want to come down?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:19:11 AM)
I don't know

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:19:55 AM)
i need to lose 2 more points on top of fire arms?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:19:58 AM)
How about one from melee and one from stealth?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:20:06 AM)
fine.

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:20:42 AM)
Okay giving you 1 in leadership and raising your streetwise to 3. Cool?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:20:47 AM)
k

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:21:30 AM)
okay now we have 36xp to spend!

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:21:33 AM)
What would you like?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:22:06 AM)
I need legacy and...em and...i'd like lore of realms as well as followers

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:22:14 AM)
can i suggest raising your WP a little as well?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:22:19 AM)
sure

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:23:30 AM)
Could I make the suggestion that if you drop your dex down to 2, use the 5 freebies to buy eminence 2, legacy 3... that will be cheaper. Because it will only cost you 8xp to buy dex back up to 3 and a lot more to buy emience and legacy?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:23:43 AM)
sure

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:25:07 AM)
okay 28 xp left to spend

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:25:47 AM)
how much does lore of realms cost?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:25:51 AM)
Lore of realms 1 will cost you 7

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:26:00 AM)
which leaves 21

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:26:47 AM)
what would you suggest?

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:27:11 AM)
wits 4? 12 xp

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:27:29 AM)
fine

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:27:41 AM)
that takes you down to 9

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:27:43 AM)
i kinda wanted lore of realms 3...but i don't see that happening

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:28:01 AM)
you could get 2....

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:28:22 AM)
I'd say lore of death 4 would be awesome and abilities to help you with lore of death as well.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:28:32 AM)
that is... very true

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:28:47 AM)
lore of realms 2 (5xp), lore of realms 3 (10xp) you can afford that

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:28:48 AM)
death 4 instead of wits 4?

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:28:58 AM)
or that

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:28:59 AM)
you still have 21 atm

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:29:23 AM)
sure...

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:29:31 AM)
sure to what?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:29:38 AM)
:) We are throwing options at you but you have to choose

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:30:13 AM)
I don't know...i kinda liked the idea of moving around in an instant but being able to consolidate power swiftly by summarily executing his rivals with a touch does sound good

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:30:48 AM)
It's your call :) Both will cost you 15

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:31:06 AM)
and that would leave you with just enough to bump your willpower up to 6 :)

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:32:50 AM)
instead i'm buying lore of death 4 and lore of realms 2

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:32:59 AM)
leaving me with 1 point spare

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:33:04 AM)
in theory

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:33:18 AM)
yep I will just add that to your sheet.

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:33:26 AM)
ok, that works to :)

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:33:49 AM)
What should i spend the 1 on then?

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:34:03 AM)
you really don't have anything that just costs 1xp

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:34:14 AM)
merits can or are they doubled?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:34:17 AM)
I am just adding it to your sheet

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:34:25 AM)
you'll start with 1xp on him

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:34:28 AM)
okay

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:35:04 AM)
Last thing going through equipment

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:35:52 AM)
yes?

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:36:33 AM)
what are M911's?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:36:43 AM)
.45 caliber pistols

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:36:54 AM)
semi auto

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:37:01 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:37:19 AM)
comparable to an uzi?

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:37:24 AM)
oh hell no

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:37:26 AM)
not even close

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:37:26 AM)
no those are full auto

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:37:32 AM)
and submachine guns

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:37:46 AM)
the M1911 are heavy pistols

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:37:59 AM)
M1911's can be turned into full auto, if i remember my graphs correctly, but it's really hard to do... and kinda pointless

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:38:02 AM)
heavy pistols... okay heavy pistols we can do :)

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:38:22 AM)
yeah uzi's are alot harder to explain when you get pulled over for drunk driving

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:38:24 AM)
when you're putting a .45 ACP into someone, having it on full auto just kinda makes it silly

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:40:13 AM)
Okay can you log all the way out and back in again?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:40:31 AM)
sure

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:40:32 AM)
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SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:40:54 AM)
woot!

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:41:35 AM)
okay check the sheet Sergei and see how you feel about it.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:42:23 AM)
Dusk, my tags say Em3

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:42:37 AM)
thank you! *goes to fix*

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:44:53 AM)
Also he needs torment 5

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:45:20 AM)
I thought I did that!

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:45:23 AM)
*fixes*

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:45:25 AM)
nah says 4

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:45:51 AM)
now it says 5!

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:46:06 AM)
danke, also...umm Weren't you going to change underworld to 2?

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:46:41 AM)
yeah, Dusk, what is up with you tonight? *jk*

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:46:43 AM)
nope you convinced me 3 was appropriate :)

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:46:48 AM)
Ahh okay cool

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:46:56 AM)
then it looks fine to me

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:47:00 AM)
sanctining is give and take :) You compromise, I compromise, we find something everyone can live with.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:47:09 AM)
I'll have to BB a bunch thugs to hire

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:47:58 AM)
I need you to clarify on your xp thread who your contacts and allies are. Keep in mind they are people that knew you from your mortal life. Locaeris has -just- reposessed, so hasn't had time for followers or thralls yet

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:48:06 AM)
And we need a descript on your profile.

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:48:44 AM)
Yeah i'm working on that, lol

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:49:36 AM)
Yeah but i was thinking of sergei's "posse"

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:49:56 AM)
i think you're looking for "entourage"

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:50:22 AM)
Well i was thinking more of like enforcement and stuff you know like a large group of people willing to kill for the man with the guns, lol

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:50:43 AM)
oh, those... yeah, that would just fall under "cannon fodder", probably

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:50:54 AM)
yeah but it would be like Follows and stuff

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:51:10 AM)
But you are happy with the final result on the sheet?

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:51:14 AM)
Yup

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:51:23 AM)
I have a feeling before this SL is over we are going to see a load of reposessions

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:51:42 AM)
Someone should have everyones celestial names on file >.>

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:52:06 AM)
lol

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:52:56 AM)
*pulls out folder* Well, Isabella's dead and went into Jane Doe's body, who just happens to be locked in the morgue downtown.... congrats, when you possess, the first thing you have to do is heal 5 lethal from the y-incision

SerenePrincess (May 28, 2011 12:55:06 AM)
*cricketcricket*.... wow, that one failed....

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:55:15 AM)
i was lost for a second....

Sergei Alenikov (May 28, 2011 12:55:17 AM)
lol

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:55:30 AM)
lol I already have a backup body for Violet.

Dusk (May 28, 2011 12:55:41 AM)
To the OOC!

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