Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:43:29 AM)
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Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:46:28 AM)
Okay, found her, and now I can see what the issue is. One sec! lol
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:46:48 AM)
*cheers.* What was the little gremlin?
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:47:07 AM)
The sheet was deleted for inactivity since it hadn't been logged in since Dec.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:47:17 AM)
Ahh. :P That.
Ogre (Jun 14, 2011 7:47:30 AM)
but I can see the sheet...
Ogre (Jun 14, 2011 7:47:51 AM)
that's weird
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:47:52 AM)
As such, I can restore the sheet to your acct, but you will need to get with Legion or Dusk to discuss getting your icon back.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:48:19 AM)
Hmm okay. :) Well theres already a FPM waiting in legion's inbox.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:48:33 AM)
Thanks for coming on to help.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:49:07 AM)
Hopefully that will all be pretty simple.
Ogre (Jun 14, 2011 7:49:24 AM)
Should be, their usually on every day. Okay, I'm off to my office to do ST stuff, hit me up if you need me.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:49:36 AM)
For the record, I want to caution you..
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:49:36 AM)
WIll do!
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:49:41 AM)
Mm?
Ogre (Jun 14, 2011 7:50:19 AM)
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Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:50:25 AM)
It's been 5 months since you played her, and you didn't even notice she'd been deleted a month ago till now. It's likely you will not get her back, or that you'll have to work something out with Legion to do so. Alright?
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:51:11 AM)
Umm okay.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:51:55 AM)
It's site policy to cuff after 30 days and unsanction entirely after 60-90. You're way past that. That's all. They may prefer you make a new PC. ^_^
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:52:27 AM)
That, would really suck. But the heads up is nice. ^^;
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:52:59 AM)
I just wanted to warn you. They've had a few folks come back to the game after months of absence, and in general, the PCs have remained gone.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:53:20 AM)
Why did that happen?
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:53:24 AM)
That's all I wanted to cover. Her sheet should come up if you log out of the site and back in.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:53:36 AM)
Why did what happen? The return or the deletion of chars?
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:54:32 AM)
The deletion. I understand someone being unsanctioned. but life happens.you can't always play or get busy with things.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:57:56 AM)
A character is an investment for an ST as well as a Player. The ST dedicates time and effort for SLs or to get you information to share etc..and disappearing for months often throws a wrench in whatever plans they'd laid as well. Not to mention a lot has changed in that interim. lol Setting wise.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:59:29 AM)
Hmm. I suppose you have a point there. Though I do have a pretty solid IC excuse for her more of less dropping out of the lime light. :P
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 7:59:37 AM)
Her lover's death.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 7:59:42 AM)
Yea!
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:00:07 AM)
*knows these things* Jane is gone as well, so at the very least, you'll need to restructure your sheet a bit.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:00:57 AM)
Well Fionce but you get the idea yea. And one of my last requests was to retain Jane as an NPC.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:01:16 AM)
BUt I guess thats all for Legion or Dusk to decide my fate.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:01:20 AM)
I do keep up with events. I -don't- read through everyone's threads. lol
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:01:30 AM)
Suuure. :P
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:01:33 AM)
But that's cool. She's still stuck to your sheet as a PC thrall.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:01:42 AM)
(Srsly.. I do NOT have that kind of time. lmao)
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:01:56 AM)
Hehe, okay.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:02:16 AM)
But yes, they'll be the ones to catch up with. Anything else ya need?
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:02:33 AM)
Nupe, that was it.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:02:42 AM)
UNless you want to give me a lolipop.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:03:00 AM)
I'll trade you for a cookie.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:04:39 AM)
I has no candy. *sadface*
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:05:05 AM)
Aww. Well you can still have an imaginary but very yummy cookie. *hands over.*
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:05:25 AM)
Thanks. And later then, I'm off to work around the house.
Mushu OOC (Jun 14, 2011 8:05:32 AM)
Bye.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 8:05:51 AM)
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Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:09 PM)
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Amaryllis DeCuir (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:25 PM)
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Amaryllis DeCuir (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:30 PM)
crap
Amaryllis DeCuir (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:31 PM)
sorry
Amaryllis DeCuir (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:34 PM)
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Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:38 PM)
*chuckles*
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:42 PM)
lol
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:03:48 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:04:01 PM)
Im here sorry didnt see the room
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:04:38 PM)
Alright then, the gang's all here.
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:04:40 PM)
Its cool. First I would like to thank you for taking the time to speak with me. I really appreciate it.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:05:11 PM)
Of course. Thank you for scheduling rather than ambushing me in the foyer.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:06:19 PM)
So Ghostlin told you that you could look for an IC teacher for Rite of Fetish Creation once you were Fostern, and Gabby's currently using that rite for an Adren challenge for her theurges.
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:06:47 PM)
Correct
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:07:01 PM)
Yes. I had even replied back to him as to how. I just never got the scene due to RL illness. Otherwise I'd have it and this meeting would be moot.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:07:16 PM)
Out of mild curiousity, do you have an IC teacher lined up?
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:07:51 PM)
I dont have an IC teacher, I was utilizing a NPC, My characters Grandmother, though I do have an IC teacher if that is required. Krys's Packmate Leafwatcher has the rite.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:09:24 PM)
She is an Adren now as well, yes?
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:12:45 PM)
Yes she is, NM. Checked her sheet.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:16:24 PM)
Alright, Wolfsong.. I'm looking over your sheet here, and your XP/BB threads..
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:16:36 PM)
She is now yes, but I think that personally is beside the point. Here is my basis of arguement. One, no where in anybook I have read, nor on the chat itself does it say Rites are limited by rank. Krys has the rituals score of 4 with a specialty in Mystic rites to support learning the rite and even already has a Rank 4 Rite as she knows Shrouded Glen. Not to mention I from everything I have ever ready from White-wolf, their stories, etc, actually find fetish creation to be a fostern level ability. I personally never have understood the fear most chats hold against this rite other than worry over a flood of them, which could be easily controlled by other means. As far as rank challeges, I understand the use of them for that if it was crafting something of moderate power but I always invisioned adren challenges to be so much more as it is the midway point.
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:16:39 PM)
Thank You
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:16:51 PM)
Not many garou make it to adren
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:17:24 PM)
if you had to wait until then, the rite would have died out.
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:21:25 PM)
Are you done?
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:21:37 PM)
Yes I am.
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:21:43 PM)
Okay I will speak
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:25:51 PM)
Done reading, *waits for Gabby to block post us right off the chat..* ^_^
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:29:39 PM)
When you asked to learn the ritual IC in your request and my st came to me and asked me if he could run the scene for you I denied the request. I told him "we use that as a jump for adren challenges to prove the theurges ability to not only preform high level rituals but also in there capabilities to wheel and deal with spirits on a more epic level. He then sent the message back to you, in which you then sent a message to the entire admin staff any myself. Now my responce was to you that you could learn it if you became more "active" in the game got some renown under your belt to learn the rite. As others have done before you. Your chr being fostern or having been sactioned with 113 xp as a what table top character, does not intitle you to learn the rite. The fact is you are not active and my team does run scenes, so it is not like you could not obtain the rank through joining those scenes. The fact you thought me asking you to actually earn something through role play was asking to much of you put a even big
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:31:12 PM)
Bigger red flag up on the request. I will be denying the request because having you learn the rite throws off the rank challenge for those making there adren theurge. Players who are actively playing. If fosterns are allready making the fetishes then how is it a worthy challenge for adrens?
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:32:05 PM)
are you finished speaking?
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:32:51 PM)
yup
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:35:31 PM)
(brb go ahead and post grabbin another cup of coffee)
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:36:36 PM)
For the first part, I was an active pc. I came into the venue an experienced cliath and I did my fostern challenge within the rite. I was in a several scene prior to my leave of abscence to which I was having an understanding that those were not counted against you as no one can control RL. But never have I attacked your team saying you dont run scenes, I personally have no beef with the SI team. Your team has actually been very pleasent to me. I would have been in your scene but I wasnt able to resume playing till after the fact and I accept that as my loss on a scene as I no doubltly would have enjoyed it. But to go back to my points of argument. I dont feel that fetish making is Adren worthy. I think its something they should already be doing. I would be disappointed if that was the only thing my pc had to do. (more coming)
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:40:26 PM)
Wolfsong, what were you ill with that took you offline for 5 months?
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:40:33 PM)
But as far as speaking about the team, here is how i view it. Ghostlin was a representitve of the Sinful Illusions Team. He was the head storyteller at the time and he made a call. I feel at that point Not only did he say I could but the chat said I could as eh was speaking as the HST. This is one of the reasons I feel so strongly about the promise being upheld. By back peddling, I feel the the site as awhole is breaking a promise. Thus the hard feelings. I am evenwilling to negotiate that I will limit anything I do make to Rank 1 and 2 level in fetishes. Nothing higher in power until I prove worth to the spirits much like a gift. (thats just one option, i am willing to compromise).
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:41:36 PM)
I'd rather not talk about my medical issues, but I have chronic illness that grew in severity and that plus work I was too whiped out to really do anything.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:42:24 PM)
Fair enough.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:42:35 PM)
My turn.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:43:24 PM)
First off, HST's represent the site in their actions as STs. They do not speak for the Site as a whole, I do that.
Dastai (Jun 14, 2011 3:45:03 PM)
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Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:46:53 PM)
((Sorry for the delay, People PMing me like mad.))
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:47:07 PM)
(no problem I am patient)
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:49:44 PM)
Secondly, we do not hold venues to the policies created by Former Staff. That would lead to untold headaches all the way down the line. The Current HST is the only one that matters.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:52:11 PM)
Regardless of your personal feelings on Ghostlin's policy as a promise from the site; mechanically, it just doesn't work that way. The rest.. that it's being used for Adren challenges, that you were inactive or active for whatever amount of time, really doesn't come into it.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:52:48 PM)
I am sorry that you were ill. You are correct, had that not happened, you'd already have the rite and this conversation would be moot.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:54:07 PM)
But as you mentioned, RL happens. And much as you cannot drop it to come running back to play, the venue cannot drop everything and run back to meet you. You still have a sanctioned PC, you've not been docked XP or points for your absence in any way, but the game has changed while you were away. This is the game that is here now.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:55:22 PM)
I hope that makes sense, Wolfsong?
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:55:46 PM)
As disappointing to hear that it is, Yes it makes sense.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:56:38 PM)
Thank you for your time, hon. And I hope to see ya IC. ^_^
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:56:54 PM)
Your welcome. Thank You for at least hearing me out.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:56:59 PM)
Of course.
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:57:57 PM)
I do want to make a note that I am not angry. I am not going to do anything spiteful. Just disappointed but I will make my request again when it is proper per the site rules. As a note though you may want to get it posted up on the site that its an adren thing.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:58:47 PM)
I'll leave that to GG, it's her venue, but sounds like a valid point. And..Excuse us please Wolfsong, I need a fast word with Gabby and my husband is waiting on me IRL. ^_^
Wolfsong OOC (Jun 14, 2011 3:59:31 PM)
Of course, have a good day.
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 3:59:35 PM)
*Nods* i appreciate your understanding and co operation in this matter. I hope to see you ic and make sure to put in scene requests. There is also some scenes posted in the forums asking for peoples times and dates of avilability please place your avilibility on them
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Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 3:59:46 PM)
Hon, much as she can't hold Ghostlin's word against you. You can't hold Ghost sanctioning her with 113 IV and TT XP on her sheet against her.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 4:00:31 PM)
Please apologize to her for bringing that up? It looked really petty.
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 4:00:38 PM)
I won't hold that against her. She did hopsctoch over the chain of comand and I did not hold that against her either.
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 4:00:47 PM)
Okay
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:13 PM)
fpm style or pm style?
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:14 PM)
Yeah yeah I know. But we're the Staff, we have to be better people. lol
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:23 PM)
Just pm her if you like. Thanks!
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:25 PM)
Nothing formal.
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:29 PM)
I gotta run IRL!
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:31 PM)
Okay!
Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:33 PM)
Bye
Dastai PM on pain of Death (Jun 14, 2011 4:01:34 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Jun 14, 2011 4:05:46 PM)
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