Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:35:03 PM)
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Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:35:16 PM)
just be aware, a room like this might pull some others in
Tern Bengrim (Jan 18, 2011 3:35:39 PM)
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Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:36:53 PM)
-nods- good point, my mind hasn't caught up since the nap but i suppose its ok
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:37:35 PM)
that was a mage ...
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:38:05 PM)
alright, so ... what are your aspirations with lucien? are you content with him being an outsider?
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:38:23 PM)
i didnt intend for him to be an outsider
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:39:31 PM)
so no not really content with him that way but if its how it goes its how it is
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:41:26 PM)
well, if a chantry comes along (though nodes don't actually help linears) are you going to want to join?
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:42:35 PM)
ooc yes, in char he'd have to consider it and what it means to belong to such a thing as he hasn't before
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:43:42 PM)
*nods* alright. other than the mentor aspect, what are your hopes with the direction of Lucien? I mean, I mind blindside you at some point and he might end up going another way, but how do you see him in 6 months, a year?
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:45:30 PM)
i see him getting more of a standing in the hospital, i see him trying to develop more as a person, workng on his understandings of the human psyche as now he can read thoughts, hmm picking up some new hobbies, finally finding a group to fit into
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:46:21 PM)
that has seemed to be a bit of an issue for him, you have a lot of mages he really doesn't get along with at all.
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:47:06 PM)
he doesnt really know them nor tries
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:47:17 PM)
i know he has issues in that regard
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:51:49 PM)
mm, alright. I know you can, hell i saw it with Ada, so yeah :)
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:52:20 PM)
he can, aliens don't break his paradigm :)
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:53:06 PM)
you should maybe meet apple at some point, shes mute too, so you get to do all the talking *grins*
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:53:30 PM)
he has felt the others tried to force their ideas on them or forced him to speak of his own and that's something he doesn't like. also when they threatened to mindwipe him before he admited to being a medium, that never went away
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:55:49 PM)
*nods* i've been musing on another character, but if you think you'd like me to keep ada for some things with lucien from time to time i probably can. Would you like that?
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 3:56:48 PM)
that would be nice but if you can't have a mage in the venue or feel its not a good idea, i fully understand
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 3:58:44 PM)
no, i can have a mage, i just couldn't play it too prominently, but doing that for you to have someone lucien can go to will be fine, just she won't be around for much more than that
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:00:00 PM)
well what were you thinking about, psi or sorceror for the other one and could luc interact with them?
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:01:19 PM)
more than likely. Question is will they like someone whos a bit different if i make them that way
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:01:55 PM)
bit different as in.....?
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:02:41 PM)
well, if they're not conventional. I haven't decided yet how i want to make them :)
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:03:23 PM)
luc's not conventional, he interacts with the dead, lol
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:04:54 PM)
true enough. Let me just open up sorc book and see if anything immediately spring to mind
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:06:06 PM)
ww did good by offering more paths to pick from in second sight, they just watered it all down
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:06:20 PM)
as i mentioned before, luc can't be made with those rules
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:07:52 PM)
aye, yes i remember
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:14:52 PM)
hmm chat is so quiet now
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:15:59 PM)
yah, well its not even remotely prime time
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:16:17 PM)
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Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:17:22 PM)
eva *nods*
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:17:43 PM)
Hey hey
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:19:58 PM)
hi
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:24:20 PM)
just musing on a sorcerer that might be fun to play
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:24:58 PM)
sorcerers are fun
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:25:15 PM)
i do have an idea. The hermetics might either hate them or love them heh
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:26:36 PM)
there are so many hermetcs
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:27:56 PM)
quite a few of them aren't very active. I desanctioned a couple of them
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:28:17 PM)
oh
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:29:40 PM)
Yeah, there's like three of us active now.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:30:04 PM)
I would only really consider two of you very active. Yourself and Connor
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:30:39 PM)
Xander is active-ish.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:31:02 PM)
yes, thus my post >.>
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:32:09 PM)
well, I guess if all three of us are active, then Connor and I are 'very active'
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:32:21 PM)
I keep trying to get tpo Arturus Bennet to make a Hermetic
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:32:42 PM)
i'm active!
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:33:17 PM)
i personally couldn't stand to play both a tremere and a hermetic
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:33:23 PM)
Yes, but you aren't a Hermetic, I'm talking about Hermetics.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:33:41 PM)
Well, we're gonna, because apparently tpo Connor and I are making tremere
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:34:36 PM)
just two characters much of a muchness. I like more variety in my pc's, thats all i mean
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:35:07 PM)
I think there's lots of room for variety there regardless.
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:35:37 PM)
i think he means it is almost a hermetic just a falen one
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:35:49 PM)
I get what he means.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:36:05 PM)
The Tremere used to be a Hermetic house, but that's just about where the similarities end.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:37:01 PM)
indeed. I'd be more inclined to play a hermetic and say a nos. But thats just me
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:37:54 PM)
Meanwhile, vampire in general holds no interest for me, so if I'm going to play, I'll need to play something a little more mystically inclined than a nos. But I guess we all have our own definition of what constitutes 'variety.'
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:39:22 PM)
sure. And I'm much the same, I didn't mind TT vampire, but day after day of playing something thats not even remotely human has little interest to me.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:41:03 PM)
Well, again, vampires can have human elements to them depending on the vampire. Unless you are playing sabbat. The Camarilla is more human-ish, particularly if you are playing a toreador or a young neonate who is still learning the ropes
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:42:19 PM)
And with the amount of vampire couples I've seen around I am guessing this game isn't really all about completely alien mentalities.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:42:36 PM)
humanish, but realistically you're a monster playing at being human. What i more mean is that mages are essentially humans with powers, garou/kin come from mortal stock and have often very human emotions, demons are half their host etc etc
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:43:06 PM)
just me these days. I used to be thoroughly into vampire. I actually prefer sabbat to cam, i think cause if i do it, i prefer to play up the monstrosity instead
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:45:00 PM)
To me, garou are monsters that play at being human too.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:45:16 PM)
I don't really see a difference.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:45:36 PM)
depends to some extent. Anyways, we're arguing over semantics :)
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:45:40 PM)
i wont comment on that at what i see of them here
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:47:00 PM)
They are still alive and breathing, yes, but they don't really care about protecting humans and routinely kill them for serving 'the wyrm.' Mages, in that regard are the same. While individual mages may have feelings for sleepers and want to protect them, in general, tradition mages want something that would not be advantageous to regular sleepers: they want a world where people believe in everything good and bad so that they can do whatever they want unfettered.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:47:04 PM)
but yeah, i do find the idea of vampire coupling rather ... sick if you think at all long about it
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:47:53 PM)
For example, Anat really has no qualms about killing sleepers if that means she's going to strike a blow at the technocracy. She's not a good guy, even though she's human.
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:49:48 PM)
so she's a terrorist
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:49:51 PM)
well, in the greater scheme of things, striking a blow at the technocracry could result in a better development for more sleepers, but yes, i get your point
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:50:23 PM)
Yep, she is a terrorist.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 4:51:11 PM)
Well, whether it results in a better development for more sleepers or not, that's not her concern. Her concern is her own personal ascension.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:52:30 PM)
*nods* indeed
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 4:54:28 PM)
.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 4:57:12 PM)
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Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 4:57:40 PM)
theres a random mage x i've seen twice, but each time they've come on, they've popped on ... then popped immediately out. Not even long enough for me to say "hi"
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 5:00:43 PM)
crappy
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:01:17 PM)
hermetic too actually
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 5:02:15 PM)
boo to that.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:03:15 PM)
so.. if i put eva in a box and closed it tight.. would it be hermenticly sealed?
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 5:03:47 PM)
Eep!
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:07:18 PM)
along with shrodingers cat.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:10:05 PM)
unfortunately had to tell the mage team that the mage asst application in the forums would most definitely no longer want the job. So no other help on the horizon just yet.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 5:10:19 PM)
Someone applied??
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:11:17 PM)
back before i was an ST. Unfortunately it was SC's husband, so ... yeah
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:11:29 PM)
neither of them have really been playing either
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 5:11:29 PM)
bleh
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:12:09 PM)
bendy quit?
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:12:30 PM)
no, but i haven't seen him outside of 15 minutes where he popped onto skype ....
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:12:55 PM)
i didnt understand what you meant by the application you wrote about up there
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:13:06 PM)
which was ... last tuesday
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:13:28 PM)
as in, SC's husband had applied to help the venue ... in december sometime.
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:14:17 PM)
oh
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:15:03 PM)
but both seem to have stopped playing/logging in, his mage hasn't been logged in since the 18th of december
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:20:32 PM)
do you ever see sc on skype?
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:22:02 PM)
sometimes
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:22:13 PM)
did she give a reason for quiting?
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:22:23 PM)
she intermittantly logs on her hermetic.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:23:11 PM)
the situation was confusing. I was basically asked to come back, to take over head. If she wanted to stay, she could've as a normal st. She chose not to. My guess is that she'd been talked to about her lack of activity previously
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:26:30 PM)
honestly, i think she just has other priorities in her life right now. Real life happens, unfortunately for the mage venue it happened a lot in the last six months. Her work was stopping her from logging on regularly for a good chunk of the earlier tenure.
Evangeline OOC (Jan 18, 2011 5:27:54 PM)
it happens
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:28:32 PM)
oh absolutely. Its why for example anytime you get a character into a relationship its frought with pitfalls, players regularly disappear
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:29:07 PM)
-nods-
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:29:45 PM)
Jason's player is an obvious example in Lucien's case. Work on setting up some psychic tooing and froing and then he just randomly stops logging on
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:30:18 PM)
he was a lot of fun, luc was his mentor kinda
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:30:57 PM)
he's one step from being deleted. Both his characters. Anything that hadn't logged in since september is now gone.
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:31:34 PM)
he never replied to my email
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:32:13 PM)
he actually rubbed some players up the wrong way with how he'd post about his character being gay and fat.
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:33:02 PM)
he behaved around luc
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:34:35 PM)
well.. chats are transiant places
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:34:42 PM)
wish i could spell
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:35:00 PM)
oh no, not ic behavior. And yes they really are. To be fair the old world of darkness community is a dying one.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:35:11 PM)
I think our last great hope is the mmo
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:35:21 PM)
well.. like a clan without its antideluvian, its going to die eventually
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:35:26 PM)
i prefer words
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:35:39 PM)
no, i mean that it might regenerate interest lucien
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:35:44 PM)
oh
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:36:13 PM)
yeah.. in the mmo
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:36:17 PM)
or it could fail miserably
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:36:40 PM)
very much a possiblity, its made by the people of Eve though, so we'll see
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:36:52 PM)
honestly.. I dont see how a owod mmo could have an end game and any mmo without an endgame dies.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:36:52 PM)
Eve does pretty well, has cut its own niche
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:37:07 PM)
CoH didn't have an end game for years
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:37:25 PM)
coh like eve plataued and never reached any great heights.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:37:53 PM)
i'd love for the owod mmo to do well.. i'm all about it.. i'm just looking at trends
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:38:07 PM)
*shrugs* they still keep going though, an MMO is never about getting WoW numbers (unless you're the upcoming star wars mmo), its more about getting a sustainable core
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:38:22 PM)
i'm not even talking abotu wow numbers.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:38:53 PM)
though the mmos that survive launch tend to stick around for a while
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:39:22 PM)
the ones like conan well.. they'er down to 5 servers.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:39:38 PM)
i see conan lasting like that a long time though.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:39:52 PM)
but its off the radar now.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:40:06 PM)
conan was rushed and released too early. So was warhammer
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:40:42 PM)
the mmo market is very slowly learning that an early released product hurts a lot. The producers of champions and star trek are finally learning that the hard way
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:40:45 PM)
well warhammer didnt have the tech issues conan did with bugs.. warhammers problem was it was too pvp
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:41:04 PM)
pvp doesnt sustain a game
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:41:37 PM)
players need both *nods*
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:41:54 PM)
and i love warhammer.. i was playing it when the minitures were still lead
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:42:01 PM)
i'll be interested to see how the upcoming next generation ones do. GW2 and kotor
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:42:24 PM)
i was more of a CCG person myself
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:42:28 PM)
GW2 and kotor have to prove they are so technically better they can be considered a new generation
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:42:43 PM)
i'm waiting for rift: plains of telera
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:42:54 PM)
i've heard some about rift but don't really know anything
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:43:05 PM)
i have hope!!
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:43:07 PM)
rifts?
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:43:09 PM)
no
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:43:11 PM)
rift
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:43:13 PM)
not rifts
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:43:42 PM)
http://www.riftgame.com/en/
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:44:34 PM)
what else has trion released?
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:46:02 PM)
nothing that I know of.. like i said i have hope but .. eeh we'll see
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:46:29 PM)
i need a better computer heh, looking at these videos
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:46:48 PM)
the fact instances can appear randomly is kind of cool.
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:47:30 PM)
with these rifts? sounds interesting
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:47:35 PM)
a dynamic world is a good idea
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:47:51 PM)
if it survives launch.. i think it might be good
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:48:33 PM)
i'm trying to think of many of the other "next big things", theres been so many that failed
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:49:44 PM)
ffix
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:49:54 PM)
aion
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:50:00 PM)
ac2
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:50:04 PM)
eq2
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:50:14 PM)
space and beyond
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:50:19 PM)
conana
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:50:19 PM)
it does look gorgeous
Dr. Lucien Ikaeda (Jan 18, 2011 5:50:45 PM)
-curls up in corner-
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:51:16 PM)
i'm gonna get the collectors edition for giggles
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:54:11 PM)
it all sorta depends on what else there is, all i see so far is "cool classes, odd rifts", would need to see what else there is
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:54:24 PM)
yeah.. its in beta right now
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:54:52 PM)
see what looks like traditional boss fights in the E3 2010 trailer
Tohunga (Jan 18, 2011 5:55:37 PM)
all those spell effects though, my computer would die on loading screen, its way too old. Well hopefully i might have a decent paying job come the middle of the year
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:56:01 PM)
yeah i need to upgrade to a 64 bit os.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:57:20 PM)
im gonan go take a nap.. i'm old and tired.
Samuel Andrews (Jan 18, 2011 5:57:23 PM)
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