Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:51:05 PM)
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Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:51:15 PM)
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Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:51:25 PM)
Howdy there again!

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:51:41 PM)
Konbanwa.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:52:00 PM)
Okay, so what's the concept?

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:52:35 PM)
Before I get into the history and concept, let me just run the very basic stuff past you and see if you guys are okay with it: Ravnos - Phuri-Dae bloodline (Seers, Lore Keepers, Mystics. Only change is Auspex instead of Fort)

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:53:11 PM)
We're not using Gypsy, FYI.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:53:19 PM)
I know Gypsy pretty well, btw. =)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:53:21 PM)
I couldn't be happier to hear that ;)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:53:35 PM)
Freaken... Magic tattoos and dance of knives... Load of rubbish

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:53:35 PM)
But True Gypsies will not be allowed.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:54:12 PM)
The clan/bloodline is okay thou? You guys don't have 10,000 Ravnos already despite the Week Of Nightmares?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:54:25 PM)
No, we don't, nor will we.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:54:29 PM)
The clan is limited.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:54:41 PM)
Excellent. Am I able to slip into that limit ATM?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:56:41 PM)
Yep!

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:56:50 PM)
*Hand clapping joy* Brilliant! :D Okay, concept... let me run this past you and see what you think...

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 10:58:43 PM)
Dot point, basicly: Russia, war time, parents lost in the conflict, ends up in an orphanage at a young age, like lots of Russian youths. The place is run on charity alone, can't afford to keep even the kids it has, so when a passing family of Rom offer to buy some of the sturdy kids, they agree... Boom, sold to a travling family... Part "Goodness of their heart" part "It'd be nice to have someone to cut firewood and carry heavy things, seeing as so many of us were hunted down like dogs!"

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 10:59:31 PM)
okay

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:00:34 PM)
Grows up with them, learns song, dance, their language, traditions, old lady of the caravan decides to take him under her wing and make him part of the "family"... Embraced, drinks blood, suddenly realises this is his chance to escape all responsibility and just treat the world like his play thing... Old Women demands he takes it seriously, they are growing apart over the years when suddenly the Indian Ravnos arrive to enlighten their poor European brothers.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:02:09 PM)
Sire is killed, too old and entrenched in her ways to change, but as a "Seer", he's considered a rare gem and young enouh to realise the mistake he's made, taken back to study with the mystics and help fight the war against the KotE. They put him to work learning all about vampires and the dhan and the stories of their... Well, religion, really... But he's constantly on the look out for a way to escape the place. He doesn't learn discps during his time, they have him too busy learning lores and secrets...

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:03:11 PM)
He makes a break for it.. Trys to ship himself to the new world in a box on a boat... Ill advised, would never work except for an amazing stroke of luck... The Week Of Nightmares. Suddenly, one Phuri-Dae packed in a box and leaving their school isn't such a big deal, they are too busy eating each other.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:04:23 PM)
Meanwhile, trapped in a packing crate, he is unable to do anything except scream wildly in the hull of the ship as nightmares take him, his chim explodes out of control, and an overwhelming urge to turn around and go back to India comes over him.... Then, before he even arrives in the US and is unboxed?... It stops! Why? He doesn't know... But he suspects.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:05:33 PM)
In the mean time, he learns that the vast majority of his clan fell upon each other in ravenous (he he he) insanity... Changes his name to something more "American" and claims to be a wandering Cattiff... Selling the secrets of the night for insane prices.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:07:36 PM)
Nuuu KotE stuff.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:07:57 PM)
I didn't intend to take any. He was being schooled during the fighting... As a Seer, his place wasn't the front lines.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:08:10 PM)
But, good call also!

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:08:17 PM)
No fighting against KotE--no lores or anything.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:08:49 PM)
Oh... But the whole clan over there is doing that. Should I just say: "Took him away to join 'a battle of great importance' but no details were given"?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:09:36 PM)
Not we're not dealing with KotE stuff; not lore or anything, so ... I would like that kind of stuff left out of the BG.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:10:09 PM)
That would work. Easy done. Mystery is good. :) "You will learn our ways and the truth of our kind" is just as good without the "And help us kill some Asian people who hate us. :( "

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:10:44 PM)
=)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:11:20 PM)
Other then that, it's okay? Keeping in mind that I'd be buying lores at start up rather then discp and backgrounds and such, and that I'd end up being roughly 74 years old rather then 50.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:13:14 PM)
If the background is good enough, we'll allow it. However, the limit is 50 in -vampiric- years.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:13:29 PM)
PERFECT! I'll be 24 ;)

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:13:35 PM)
Which means you -could- be 74 (24 real-life aged and 50 ... exactly)

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:13:39 PM)
=)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:14:02 PM)
That means I can be born before the war, lose my folks during, no problem.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:14:21 PM)
... I must be getting old... I remember when making a "War" Vampire PC was still okay :(

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:14:54 PM)
How much do you guys charge for Lores, Freebie wise, during creation?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:15:01 PM)
Same as knowledges.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:15:09 PM)
2? Fair. Do you have a limit?

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:15:19 PM)
"No X lore at 4, no more then 3 lores at 3..."

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:15:55 PM)
Well, you'd only be able to buy so much and make sure your sheet is balanced for the character.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:16:23 PM)
Is this the kind of chat where, if I don't have combat powers, I'm doomed? :(

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:16:29 PM)
Nope.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:16:41 PM)
Cos I was thinking a small dodge and some melee (axe and knife handling mostly)... And that's it.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:16:55 PM)
Keep it within the guidelines.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:17:13 PM)
Combat points: Limited to 7 dots (dodge, brawl, melee, firearms) for martial types of characters and are generally capped at 5 or so for ‘normal’ characters. This also includes specific combat abilities such archery, etc. No 4’s in any combat ability will be sanctioned, though a 4 in dodge is acceptable. Again, please be prepared to give explanations of these Abilities if asked and a detailed background. (Keep in mind, your average cop only has the equivalent of 2 dots in firearms.)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:17:13 PM)
Good, that's great news. This shouldn't be a problem. Any lores that are restricted? "No Anarch lore because...." "No Tremer lore because...."?

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:17:28 PM)
Ppftt, I think 3 dots JUST lands within your 7 point gudeline ;)

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:17:56 PM)
Additional Lores will require -very- good justification. Tremere Lore would be very difficult to have, most likely.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:18:05 PM)
lol Just an example. ;)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:18:37 PM)
Okay, well you've been a GREAT help! :D I'll go punch the sheet together now and start writting up the background for you guys in full. I just post that on the forums?

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:20:56 PM)
Oh, real quick, one other thing. Would you guys be okay with me taking a Generic icon? Just to keep the Chim a surprise from players...

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:21:25 PM)
Yep, you can have a generic Indie icon.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:22:46 PM)
:) Danke

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:30:34 PM)
Do you guys permit the 27 point spread on abilities, or so you stick to the strict 13/9/5?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:31:04 PM)
Needs to be the 13/9/5

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:32:17 PM)
Lame, but understandable. :)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:34:14 PM)
If I take Subt and Maip both at 4, am I going to be run down? Should I drag one back to 3?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:34:57 PM)
Depends on the background and whether you justify a four in both =)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:35:08 PM)
Alright, we'll see then. :)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:41:08 PM)
Another question! If I want the Indian Ravnos to want to take me back to India... Not a "let's kill him" enemy, but a "If we find you, we'll make you pay, and then you're coming back with us"... 3 point enemy? 4?

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:46:04 PM)
Oooh, hm.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:46:07 PM)
I'll have to think on that one.

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:46:20 PM)
Depends on just how much that enemy wants to get at you ;-)

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:48:11 PM)
Well, here was my thoughts: "Most of the young Ravnos are likley dead, the only ones left would be the older, powerful ones who would either be looking to sire the clan again, avoid everyone, or round up the youngins and put them to work defending said elders from danger. With the Indian branch of the clan wanting to bring Seers back, maybe even hoping they can unravle the mystery of The Week Of Nightmares, knowing that a well trained keeper of secrets is free it prolly a thorn in their side"

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:54:06 PM)
While you're thinking that over: Youre creation rules say 1 Sect lore, 1 clan lore... What sect lore do I get? :(

Ame (Feb 14, 2011 11:56:31 PM)
You can just have Clan/Kindred.

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:56:37 PM)
Excellent

Smear OOC (Feb 14, 2011 11:57:34 PM)
Camarilla, Sabbat... Is "Anarch" a lore for a sect, or do we consider that an offshoot of both Cam and Sabbat, given they are basicly the middle ground bewteen the rock and the insane place?