Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:49:11 AM)
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Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:49:19 AM)
okay whats up?
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:49:42 AM)
Alrighty. Since everyone on the WtA staff is CoI of one sort or another, your PC was put in my hands. ^_^
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:49:57 AM)
col?
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:50:10 AM)
Conflict of Interest.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:50:25 AM)
yes.. because we are freinds .. n shld
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:50:32 AM)
That last letter's a cap i. lol Yes.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:50:58 AM)
truly understand that ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:51:27 AM)
i have the history up and on the sheet i placed numbers
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:51:44 AM)
Alright. I took a look at her background, and there's some holes I could put a Mack truck through. This concept makes no sense for a Sahdow Lord.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:51:44 AM)
but yes the Coi is very understanable
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:52:05 AM)
okay let me explain the concept
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:52:27 AM)
Sure.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:52:43 AM)
shes going to be a high socaity catering .. service .. meaning politic parties and other things
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:52:59 AM)
owning her own resturant that is vip only
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:53:03 AM)
high class
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:53:19 AM)
I saw that.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:53:33 AM)
honesly I didnt want a typical corpral shld kin
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:53:45 AM)
Where did you get the contacts and connections to set that up?
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:53:56 AM)
wanted something I can play , have advantaged and other things ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:54:05 AM)
as you read the history ?
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:54:08 AM)
Yes.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:54:31 AM)
Your parents left you an inheritance in another country.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:55:02 AM)
her father died and left her a nice inhartence , there she used it to get to us. she worked on get her citizemship . then used to the money to start her bussniess
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:55:30 AM)
Ignoring entirely that "rich" in Russian standards would put you barely middle class in the US, the issue with that is a VIP restaurant requires extensive contacts and time to set up. Time you haven't had in this country.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:55:51 AM)
Certainly not at age 23, and having arrived on the boat a year ago at most.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:55:57 AM)
27
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:55:59 AM)
Knowing..no one in the US.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:56:02 AM)
she looks 23
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:56:06 AM)
Your descrip and background both say 23.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:56:23 AM)
does it , I could have sworn i changed it
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:56:27 AM)
let me look
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:57:22 AM)
So let's move to the next point. As that is hardly the only issue here. The lost and found orphanage/parents.. If she was noted as kin while an infant, she'd have been taken in by the Tribe immediately. Not conveniently set aside in an orphanage.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 10:57:49 AM)
Shadow Lord kin are groomed from Birth to serve and obey their Trueborn of the Tribe.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:58:30 AM)
hince they didnt know she was .. why at threeee she was taken .. and taught
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:58:44 AM)
no purebreeed
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 10:58:59 AM)
mother normal , father kinfolk
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:00:31 AM)
Set aong with a Tribal necklace and abook of her parentage?
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:01:00 AM)
In your background, those who found her had the hints.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:01:47 AM)
yes but not everyone if your human your not going to know what it ment
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:01:59 AM)
The other thing that's bothering me.. This is your third attempt at a Shadow Lord kin?
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:02:16 AM)
her own mother didnt know what it ment ... and thought it was luck charm
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:02:43 AM)
yes , like I told GG .. first time I done it out preplanned , big mistake
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:03:26 AM)
GG is friend over 10 of rpg .. made the character and few weeks ago noticed alot of things on sheet and what we planned the character for was missing
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:03:56 AM)
this time , there is no preplanned character for a reason , this character has no connection to a current PC in the game ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:04:12 AM)
and last time i am gong to give shld a shot
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:04:17 AM)
Hon, I don't care if you're best friends with God. It won't influence what we're discussing. There are a few tribes that are very strict with their kin. Several that have very specific rules and traditions and Shadow Lords and Silver Fangs are among the strictest.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:05:15 AM)
I understand this . why I want to give it one more try my way ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:07:34 AM)
.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:07:41 AM)
You've had 2 tries so far..and from what I'm seeing..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:08:09 AM)
They did not go well. The last one was sent back to her home sept in disgrace?
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:08:32 AM)
yes.. please let me do this , Yes she as sent back .
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:08:43 AM)
I think you might want to branch out and try a less-traditionalist Tribe.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:09:01 AM)
Children of Gaia. Glasswalkers...
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:09:18 AM)
Something that allows for a little more flexibility with their kinfolk.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:09:52 AM)
Where your PC won't be under the scrutiny that has been the downfall of at least one, if not both of your predecessors here..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:10:06 AM)
I want to give this one more chance please , the other two was preplanned , prearranged characters .. this character dont have that .. please ..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:11:06 AM)
I'm sorry, but the Background is very non-Traditional, and I feel like you're hoping that explanation for your PC's actions will allow you more freedom in RPing out this kin than you had with the previous.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:11:28 AM)
i can redo the background
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:11:32 AM)
When the real issue is that Shadow Lords -don't- give their Kin that freedom.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:11:52 AM)
And you as a player, seem to require a bit less stringent boundaries.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:12:31 AM)
If you try a more traditional approach again, you'll be back where you were with the previous two attempts.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:12:46 AM)
oh Nooooooo ,,
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:13:07 AM)
again the other two was preplanned , prearranged characters
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:13:42 AM)
That, does not change how -you- played them. Only the background could be prearranged.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:13:43 AM)
i dont have that with this character ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:14:09 AM)
yes it does ..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:14:15 AM)
I'm not sure what you think not having a tie to the sept/pack etc will change. Could you explain that?
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:14:28 AM)
I play allie Jo , I player nothing like i did the shadowlord
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:14:48 AM)
She's not a Shadow Lord. She's a ver good Bone Gnawer kin.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:15:10 AM)
Another tribe that has very flexible standards with their kinfolk.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:16:50 AM)
dealing with kid , hold on plz
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:16:57 AM)
Sure. I have the same issue. ^_^
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Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:21:19 AM)
In fact.. I have to run and work on dinner here. Go ahead and post up the explanation of why this Non-Prearranged background will solver the problems you had with those PCs that had ties to the sept coming in.. And I will read it as soon as I'm done cleaning the chicken here. ^_^
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:22:40 AM)
okay I can redo her history , the character will be diffrently , as for ties , those will come IC .. once she gets things set up and moved about. The diffrence with the characters , Malika was premade to the request of silverkitsun to come in and sabatauge his pack and marrage .. Kelsea was prearrange to come in under dalton to help wth realations of the Tribe to sept . where I could hardly play her .. a.) dalton is insain .. kept her from going to the sept . B) the majotity of the pack is St n ast st .. ... For a while , I dont want her involed getting to know the pack , maybe indivuals ? but for the sept will go and leave word she is here and how to contact her ... leave it open rp to grow
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:27:27 AM)
and dalton isnt the only pack with shlds in it as well .
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:29:50 AM)
Back again
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:30:54 AM)
wb
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:31:02 AM)
There are two shadow lords outside that pack. If the ST and Asst's involvement is an issue, Make A Different Tribe.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:31:24 AM)
its not . was just sying .. trust me its not
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:31:43 AM)
Then don't say it. lol
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:31:48 AM)
gg.blkspl, fomey ... years of playing togather
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:32:19 AM)
I understand. But even with your best friends trying to help you, you have not gotten a solid understanding of this Tribe.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:33:35 AM)
And your explanation of coming in without pre-arranged ties, did not tell me that conceptual gap would be solved.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:33:36 AM)
let me have this last shot , i promise I wont let anyone down .. pleasee
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:35:16 AM)
I asked you to explain one thing to me, hon.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:35:32 AM)
yes the prearranged ties
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:35:35 AM)
How will coming in without arrangements solve your problems with this Tribe?
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:36:32 AM)
kids again ..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:39:18 AM)
kk
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:42:08 AM)
coming in with out prearrangment .. for starters , it would allow me to get better settled with the character in RP , arrangments can be done IC once she meets them .. with no arguments . Just has if it was prearranged before she came . Also I made sure there was things on this character sheet that I lacked on the others .. I was looking for merits and flaws to help obedience .. but I can do it with out because she would be conditioned as a child . I can also say , she was told about the sept as well .. so she would know where it was..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:42:38 AM)
I want to hang a 3rld atm
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:42:47 AM)
3yld*
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:43:40 AM)
he want to watch a movie I am telling him to hold on . I was talking about my game and he sayin no mov mov .. uugh ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:46:13 AM)
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Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:47:56 AM)
Back.. still cooking.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:48:56 AM)
its 10:47 am here , a 3rld want to debate with me .. I want to put him up on hook somewhre
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:49:23 AM)
I recommend a climbing harness. Anyway, got an answer for me? ^_^
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:49:42 AM)
hun scroll up
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:49:47 AM)
i did answer
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:50:58 AM)
i hate potty training
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:54:43 AM)
Ah. Okay, none of those things are something you couldn't have done on your previous PCs.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:54:53 AM)
All of them would have been conditioned as children.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:55:33 AM)
Knowing where the sept is or getting settled is nothing new either.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:55:34 AM)
yes even in the history .. she was taught who she was ..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:55:43 AM)
Yes, as are ALL ShL kin.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:55:49 AM)
Like..your previous 2.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:56:20 AM)
first and 2nd characters . she never knew where the sept was
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:56:33 AM)
because atm Shlds was not welcome there
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:56:45 AM)
They came in knowing PCs already though. They weren't barred from RP.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:57:02 AM)
excuss me Kelsea was ..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:57:07 AM)
And if you're wanting to play more with other Tribes..Shadow Lord isn't the kin you want in the first place.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:57:14 AM)
They're very insular.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:57:29 AM)
hold on , kids fighting
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:58:37 AM)
insular ? im not familar with that word.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:58:54 AM)
It means they don't like interaction with others.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:59:03 AM)
They keep to their own.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:59:12 AM)
And from your own words, that's not what you want to do.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 11:59:54 AM)
I understand that you're really set on this Tribe. I can't say I understand -why-, but I do realize it's important to you.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 11:59:56 AM)
wait , so prearrange kelsea to help with the relations ..
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:00:02 PM)
hold on .. here
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:00:11 PM)
?
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:00:21 PM)
im kinda getting up set about the last character atm .. let me finish plz
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:00:32 PM)
I'm not trying to set you up.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:00:41 PM)
no hold on
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:01:15 PM)
And I have to go feed my family IRL, it's been over an hour now. I won't log. You can continue to make your argument, but I need to go AFK for a while.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:01:16 PM)
your not the one im upset over atm .. give me a min here
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:02:11 PM)
I'll be back in 30-40 mins. Sorry, family comes first. ^_^
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:03:03 PM)
kk we can finish then .
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:03:14 PM)
just let me know when your back
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:09:13 PM)
Kk, I will. Gone!
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:13:17 PM)
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Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:26:08 PM)
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Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:26:43 PM)
so who else is in here ?
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Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:40:28 PM)
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Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:41:43 PM)
Back
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:41:58 PM)
wb
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:42:51 PM)
Thank you.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:42:55 PM)
Alright.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:44:29 PM)
now you was saying you can see i really want this , yes , you said but you dont understand why ?
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:45:00 PM)
What I'm getting from you is that you want to RP at the sept. You are interested in meeting and interacting with other Tribes, rather than the ShL pack you've RPd two chars with. You are telling me that not being tied to a current PC when you come in will somehow allow you to "get settled" with your PC, where coming in with pre-made ties didn't allow that. And that somehow, this thrid attempt at a Shadow Lord Kin, will avoid the pitfalls of the previous two, because you won't have anyone helping you ICly. So no, about half of that makes No sense to me.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:47:41 PM)
Because what I see, is an intertribal character concept that belongs in the Glasswalkers or Chidren of Gaia. A player who wants to play at the sept rather than at the ShL territory/house. And who seems to believe that having the assistance of other players is a Hindrance to roleplaying a character that is largely controlled by whoever decides to be her Guardian. Something that your PC will have little say in, In This Tribe.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:51:49 PM)
it may not to you but it does to me , let me do this , and you will see it all work out . please .. give me a chance to do this my way .. all i am asking .. waittt hold up , not play at the sept all the time freaken time.. I have no issues playing at the house .. I have no issues on playing with others. I love game flow . I dont mind doing things ic .. when it fits the character concept .. I understand the PC once there , once she gets a guardian will have little to say then again its on how the rp goes. what happens IC .. correct ? Let me do this .. let me show you IC in Rp ..
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:53:13 PM)
You have already had two Kin to demonstrate an understanding of the Tribe, and you haven't. I'm sorry, but no. On the background and concept alone, I have to turn this down.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:54:45 PM)
If you try for Shadow Lord again, you'll need to come to me again for sanction, because of the Conflicts of Interest with the WtA staff. If you choose another Tribe, Scarybunnie should be able to process your request as is the norm.
Dastai (Jul 20, 2011 12:56:03 PM)
I'm sorry to have taken up so much of your time today, but I wanted to make sure you'd had a chance to explain it to me.
Nikitin Klavdiya (Jul 20, 2011 12:58:23 PM)
i cant believe I cant approch somethig my way to where i know my self it would work out . not even given the chance of doing something my way to show something .. not even from you with a open mind .. of something .. I do understand the tribe .. just the character that was made , didnt work out .. have a nice day
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