Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 4:57:08 PM)
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Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:01:58 PM)
the pda fetish is in the glasswalker book?

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:02:07 PM)
or is it in hammer and klaive book?

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:04:18 PM)
i just checked the tribe book its not in there

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:04:24 PM)
im looking in hammer and klaive now

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:04:30 PM)
its in the player's guide

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:04:41 PM)
thank you ill look in that book now

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:04:50 PM)
the actual name is listed in my notes

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:11:12 PM)
okay so here is the first issue.

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:11:21 PM)
I do not know if anyone has told you this or not

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:12:36 PM)
?

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:14:00 PM)
but a fetish requires background history explination on how you aquired the fetish and why it was given to a cliath what in gaias name did you do to earn a fetish by the nation when there are other more worthy higher ranking garou then your own character. Secondly is the fact this particular fetish when made by the glasswalkers into a pda is made with a imp spirit these spirits are as the book states exceedingly rare and the best place to even find one now a days is in the legendary realm which is exceedingly difficult. The book also states because imp spirits are cunning spirits its not a easy task to get one bound even if you can find one.

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:14:05 PM)
(not yet done)

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:15:39 PM)
errr, i thought crypt took the fetish off my sheet already, asked him to move those 2 pts to a dot of brawl

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:15:54 PM)
i forgot about that, should have remembered when you asked about it

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:15:58 PM)
ahh okay and no he didnt..

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:16:03 PM)
sorry about that

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:16:27 PM)
he pointed that out (basically) when we talked, and i was like, im fine with that, and lets get 1 brawl instead, no worries

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:19:21 PM)
ok second thing you know your writing is going to be expression plus charisma and your leadership rolls will be expressions plus charisma your pack tatic gift rolls when you reach that rank which will add to the dice pools for you pack durring battles when useing the pack tatics your pack chooses will be off your leadership and charisma might i ask why you chose to boost your intelligence verses your charisma?

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:20:02 PM)
umm cause charisma is social stat, which is my tertiary stat...

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:20:20 PM)
and writing would be intel or wits not charisma... charisma would be for speaking or some such

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:20:33 PM)
you dont have to be a sociable person to be a good writer

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:23:58 PM)
no but you have to have charisma you have to write in a way that inspires others. you can be smart and write a non emotional book like umm well here, you can write a 6th grad science book that kids are forced to read that kids have to take notes on cause the subject is soooo boreing that they cant even remember a freaking word of it after spending a entire day reading it. you know when ya read it and like ya flip the page then ya say to youself, "wait i just read that entire page and have no idea what i read?" and ya go back and reread it forcing yourself to pay attension so your mind does not wander? Or ya can write a story that grips the soul and makes page flipping a thing that is needed because the person just can't put the story down. One in which they fall in love with the characters and hate or fear the villans because there is such creative charisma behind each word.

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:24:48 PM)
key word being charisma

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:24:53 PM)
make sence?

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:25:02 PM)
no, not really

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:26:20 PM)
Charisma is about social skills not writing

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:27:46 PM)
and for when im making speeches and persuading by oratory it makes sense that cha or manip are paired with expression

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:27:51 PM)
ok let me show you some thing i think you missedf

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:28:04 PM)
but for writing, using logic, cunning, etc... then it is a more cerebral process

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:29:06 PM)
it doesnt really matter though, either way his stats arent changing to social primary, he is a smart guy, offensive hacker, etc... the journalism/blogging is just a way to make some money

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:32:33 PM)
well here is the thing under expressions in the core book it states you need to roll it with charisma OR wits, it says it is for writers, journalists, or speech makers and galliards. if you want to be a serious writer of any sort inteligence is not the way to go. Because this is a cannon chat and the book clearly states in the rolling rules and the description under expression it is rolled with Charisma not intelligence. Does that now make sence? Do you need the page number for where you can find expression in the main revised core book?

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:33:15 PM)
im looking at expression in teh main book, it doesnt say anything about what stats it is paired with...

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:33:34 PM)
says often paired with

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:33:37 PM)
but not always

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:33:58 PM)
and even so, wits is not a social stat either, which is what he may often use for his writing, thats fine

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:34:35 PM)
no but witts is for debates in which your expressions is used to get others to view your side of the debate.

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:35:07 PM)
when going up against another in a debate you need wits and expressions to think up quick witty retorts to there arguments

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:35:16 PM)
where does it say that? and why are you so dead set on forcing expression to be only paired with cha or wits? when i can show you a roll that its paired with a physical stat...

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:35:48 PM)
i mean seriously the guy is a writer and a hacker, he is a computer nerd, not a galliard

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:35:56 PM)
he is not going to have high social stats

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:36:45 PM)
read the last paragraph under expressions on page 112 of the revised core what does it say?

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:38:29 PM)
Expression is often combined with Charisma or Wits for powerful effect.

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:38:50 PM)
often

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:39:51 PM)
okay and what does it say beneith that about those whom obtain expressions?

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:40:45 PM)
Galliards, Writers, Poets, Politicians, and Actors

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:41:11 PM)
writers and actors probably dont pair it with the same stats

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:41:28 PM)
and politicians could pair with cha, manip, int, or wits depending on the circumstances and use

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:41:57 PM)
the character is an average speaker, but above average writer, you do not have to be good at both

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:42:16 PM)
okay so now that you see it is for writers and that it does you wits or charisma and since this is a cannon chat ive told you those will be the dice used with it, you want to keep inteligence that is fine but your writing would be mediocre at best and nothing impressive as you have no charisma to even back it up in a creative manner do you understand this?

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:42:39 PM)
it says OFTEN... that is not the same as ALWAYS

Mike Adams (Mar 8, 2011 5:43:30 PM)
and 5 dice isnt mediocre its is above average

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:45:44 PM)
You do not agree I see.. Well then you are more then happy to bring this up to the head of the venue, The caps are unnessisary. I for one will not saction this character with its back ground the way it is. I tried to offer you advice with your sheet mechanics so that you could be some what workable. As it is Signal Dancer the current head of the venue has asked to saction you personaly. But you never stay on your icon long enough for her to log in. I have seen three times in which she was told you where in the foyer she tried to log in and by the time she did you had allready logged out. I suggest sending her a fpm at this point. As none of us are capable of sactioning you. She has asked to deal with you personaly.

Captain Jack (Mar 8, 2011 5:47:30 PM)
have a good day.

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