steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:30:15 PM)
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steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:30:49 PM)
heya

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:31:03 PM)
Hiya!

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:31:12 PM)
*looks over* mmmm nice

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:31:16 PM)
lol anyway....

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:31:42 PM)
! lol

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:31:42 PM)
ok let me pull up both sheets and we ca start on yoruquestions

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:32:15 PM)
kk

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:34:32 PM)
ok so first of all what are the terms of your pact?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:35:11 PM)
I put em on the sheet..

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:36:45 PM)
kk

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:37:30 PM)
^_^

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:38:00 PM)
ok so supernatural awareness is an ability in itself so i'm gonna have to take out the xp for the 2 dots as well ok?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:38:16 PM)
He told me it wasn't the ability.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:38:43 PM)
huh?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:39:08 PM)
That I'd have to buy the ability to use it. I have no clue on that one. If the ability "awareness" is what he gave her.. then for a FP wouldn't she get 5 of it?

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:40:32 PM)
well awaeness is how well you can detect supernatural things... unless you have the inate ability to use it you just cant get it..... so what you get is the ability to detect like if you were a supernatural creature but that still doesnt account for the rankings in the actual ability

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:40:34 PM)
ok?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:41:33 PM)
That's fine. So she has 0 Awareness, but the potential to use it when she learns the ability.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:42:02 PM)
well since you took 2 dots and have plenty of xp for it if im not mistaken you can have it now if youd like

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:42:08 PM)
and ill just subtract the xp

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:42:12 PM)
I don't have the X* for it.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:42:14 PM)
XP.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:42:29 PM)
3 FP's and the 5xp for Thralling = 45.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:43:17 PM)
whats the xp for faith?

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:43:27 PM)
i really dotn want to open a book right now

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:43:29 PM)
dont

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:44:02 PM)
You told me 10XP for the first dot and the book says 10x level for the others so: 10+10+20=40xp for FP 3

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:45:33 PM)
ok thats right... so its 15 for the initial thralls and then 30 for the next two dots.... i'll tell you what ill give you one to awareness free

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:45:46 PM)
Aww thanks! ^_^

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:46:33 PM)
you robbed yourself of a science btw

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:46:41 PM)
Whoops. lol

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:47:39 PM)
and the actual language is Creole Louisienne i believe and not cajun

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:47:50 PM)
Creole's different.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:48:37 PM)
Or at least..that's what Zatsk told me waaay back when Lina was originally sanctioned.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:49:01 PM)
Lemme look it up!

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:49:25 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Creole_French

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:49:33 PM)
http://www.landrystuff.com/creole.htm

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:50:44 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun_French

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:50:50 PM)
Creole's different.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:51:07 PM)
yeah but cajuns dont actually speak a seperate language its just shitty english... like having a southern accent so you wouldnt need the linguistics dot

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:52:19 PM)
It's shitty French. And Lina's original language is English.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:52:29 PM)
So she knows gutter french and English. lol

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:52:46 PM)
okie dokes

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:53:52 PM)
Woot!

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:54:34 PM)
you handed over 2 faith right?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:54:39 PM)
Nope. 1.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:54:58 PM)
then how did you get 2 powers?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:55:17 PM)
Cuz I started with 3 dots. Zaebos gets one. I get 2 points of stuff.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:55:46 PM)
you get one for each dot you hand over

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:55:57 PM)
its a one for one ratio

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:56:32 PM)
Okay.. so I hand 2 over to Z and I get two powers..the third dot does what?

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:57:27 PM)
its your inherent faith potential so you still have faith of your own to do stuff with... like use your power

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:58:04 PM)
So he gets 2 faith from me, and I get two powers and still have a dot free for later?

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:58:24 PM)
yeah but dont spend that dot or you pretty much have a useless power floating around...

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:58:38 PM)
your lore

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 2:58:58 PM)
?.. I have this feeling something's weird here but okay.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:59:19 PM)
you need to spend faith to activate lores.....

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:59:27 PM)
so if you are giving it all away you cant use any yourself

steev (Nov 4, 2010 2:59:32 PM)
get it?.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:00:05 PM)
I got it. But that might not be the right thing to give Lina then.. I don't think Ash realized that.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:00:15 PM)
how come?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:02:01 PM)
First.. cuz from what he told me, I "give" all three points to him, he keeps one for himself and uses two to gift Lina with stuff. Second, he originally wanted Lina to have his affinity with animals..but figured the Lore would be more useful.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:02:31 PM)
nope if you give all three to him then you get three things...

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:02:49 PM)
right now since you only have 2 thingsyou havenonly given over 2 dots

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:04 PM)
And he gets all the faith regardless of what I get from it?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:17 PM)
Cuz..that's not what the thrall book says.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:33 PM)
no he gets whatever you give to him

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:37 PM)
its a mutual exchange

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:46 PM)
for every dot you give ... you get something

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:50 PM)
Specifically mentions that a clever Demon waits till his thrall has 2 more FP to renogotiate, so that he can gift his thrall for the bargain and still keep sonmething.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:03:53 PM)
for himself.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:04:43 PM)
Hang on.. Ash is on the way.. I don't know enough system stuff to make sense of this.

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:05:08 PM)
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Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:05:43 PM)
Okay. Steev says I need unused/gifted FPs to use Lore of the Beast. And that for each point Lina gives Shin, I get a gift.

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:06:47 PM)
You're buying 3 perm faith, yes? To enter the venue officialy with?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:06:55 PM)
Yes.

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:01 PM)
That's 1 point towards Lore of Beast 1, 1 point towards Awareness, and 1 point given to Shin each day.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:12 PM)
That's..not what Steev said.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:25 PM)
Also.. he says if I do that, Lina has no FPs to fuel Lore of the Beast with.

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:26 PM)
Then what's being changed from the book?

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:39 PM)
Thralls don't use faith to fuel their enhancements, it's willpower based.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:48 PM)
hold on a minute and let me look something up because i think there is a bit of a clarification issue

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:51 PM)
brb

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:07:57 PM)
*just..holds her hands up*

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:12:35 PM)
To my knowledge, the only thing based on a thralls faith rating is the range of their supernatural awareness. Which is based off their total faith potential, not remaining faith potential.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:19:40 PM)
ok so what are the exact details of your pact

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:20:14 PM)
Lore of Beast 1, Infernal Awareness Trait, in return for 1 faith per day, loyalty and servitude.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:20:34 PM)
servitude in what way?

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:20:54 PM)
As a follower.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:20:56 PM)
She does what she thinks he wants her to. lol

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:21:08 PM)
so slave basically?

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:21:18 PM)
For all intents and purposes, even though she's not treated that way.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:21:51 PM)
Lina will never call him Master, either. lol And too many "orders" will weaken Lina's faith in him.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:21:59 PM)
i dont care how she is treated.... :D

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:22:23 PM)
Service is different than Slavery.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:23:08 PM)
ok then i think you guys need to clarify a few things....

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:24:13 PM)
She and I have been RPing this relationship so far and to my knowledge, both PCs are comfortable with the arrangement. We're not confused.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:24:43 PM)
well the terms are very vague... and they cant be for a pact to be valid

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:24:44 PM)
Lore of Beasts 1 and the supernatural awareness, in exchange for 1 faith daily and her loyalty.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:25:05 PM)
Service vs Slavery we've worked out IC and are quite happy with.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:25:11 PM)
i know you guys may know what the terms are but i need to know them as well

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:25:26 PM)
You have them. Servitude and faith, in return for the blessing of beast 1 and awareness.

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:25:44 PM)
When he tells Lina to do something, she does it.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:25:49 PM)
how much servitude?

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:26:06 PM)
Complete and utter loyalty. When he calls on her, she comes.

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:26:17 PM)
ok that how you see it lina?

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:26:39 PM)
She follows instructions/requests/orders. Might ask questions about them after the fact but never when there's work to be done.

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:27:03 PM)
So yeah.. we're in accord. She does what she's told. lol

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:28:24 PM)
okie dokes

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:28:29 PM)
thats the clarification i needed

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:30:08 PM)
Okies. ^_^

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:30:33 PM)
ok so the pwer is activated by a wp roll diff 8 to determine suxx, you dont have to spend the wp to use it

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:31:29 PM)
Right. Range based on total faith potential? Or willpower rating? I'm assuming her total faith potential (3) to avoid being over powered (cuz willpower is too easy to raise, by comparison)

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:31:33 PM)
shin get one faith per day and instead of just demon aweness it will be full on supernatural awareness.. sound good?

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:32:05 PM)
I take it the awareness is the typical infernal pact version though, yes? Spend 1 wp to activate for a scene, then used via perc+awareness

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:32:12 PM)
range is based on the one faith cus its supposed to be a limited form of the lore

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:32:23 PM)
-nods- That works too.

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:32:38 PM)
Check out AIM for me steevo, so I can get this finished up with Derek. ^_^

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:32:47 PM)
and no im gonna knock it up to normal aweaness but she has to spend the xp to raise it

Tokugawa Shinjo (Nov 4, 2010 3:32:55 PM)
-nods-

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:36:41 PM)
Thank you steev. ^_^

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:36:48 PM)
i feel like if kin can get awareness you should be able to too

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:36:50 PM)
:D

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:36:53 PM)
np

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:36:58 PM)
Wewt for equal rights!

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:37:07 PM)
i just need to change your names in a sec and then youll be done

Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:37:18 PM)
Okies!

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:42:53 PM)
ok done

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:43:04 PM)
have fun

steev (Nov 4, 2010 3:43:11 PM)
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Lina Devereaux (Nov 4, 2010 3:43:13 PM)
Thank you Steev..

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