SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:01:44 AM)
Something IC has gone on between Isabella and Zacarias, Isabella, ebing unhappy, slapped Zacarias when he came in, as an RP action that was rolled, but no damage and not actual combat
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:02 AM)
and Zach you arent happy inits were not rolled for this and think it's ooc motivated? Do I have that?
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:09 AM)
yes basically
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:02:21 AM)
Why do you think it's ooc motivated?
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:04:45 AM)
because unfortunately i had a falling out with london and violetta... and soon after with isa... ooc. and migus can attest it was taken into the mage game... and now seems to have bled into demon as well. The claim was that the motivation for this ic was that zac was courting isa.... while dating luci... but it was always very clear that zac in no way ever wanted to date isa... to the point that iche clearly stated if you want to fuck fine, but im not interested at all in dating you... and specifially told violetta and london both that he would not date her so stop pushing it upon him... this was before the ooc nonsense and now its been turned into something else
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:05:12 AM)
hold on dont pull my name into this.. I was not even ic so stop your lying right there
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:05:45 AM)
London, hang on
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:05:53 AM)
I will in fact, get to everyone.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:06:35 AM)
So you weren't even in the IC scene that's going on London?
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:07:05 AM)
i wasspeaking in the past tense... about tellling vi and london... london was not in the scene now
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:07:19 AM)
Right, I refuse to play with him at all or be in a scene with him, so when he showed up I RP'd my char out of the scene
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:07:25 AM)
Ah okay
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:07:50 AM)
Then let me ask this if I may - is all that's going on some slapping (ie nobody's getting actually hurt) and arguing?
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:08:11 AM)
or are characters actually out to kill other characters at the moment?
Lucinde Duboir (Jun 23, 2011 12:08:34 AM)
Not until this scene, to my knowledge.
Isabella Perez (Jun 23, 2011 12:08:35 AM)
The slap actually never connected. I clearly stated that the swing missed, because the roll to hit failed. And no, Isabella is not out to kill him. The person that brought killing into the equation was Zacarias when he stated "I will end you".
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:08:37 AM)
well its now escalated....and its two demons on one in a scene i feel is very ooc driven... and mostly i want it on record so that if they decide to try and kill my char it is noted
Ogre. (Jun 23, 2011 12:08:38 AM)
No one has expressed a desire for PC death to me at any time in this scene as my screenshots show you.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:09:50 AM)
welli am pretty sure isa threatened to take his balls if he ever went anywhere near her friends... which is every single st run scene... so thats kind of limiting
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:05 AM)
well she was called an asshole and a cunt
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:06 AM)
and i was ok with things until i found out it was ooc driven
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:09 AM)
whoa whoa
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:16 AM)
whoa. slow down one sec
Violetta duBois (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:19 AM)
Violet is a Lion of the court (she deals with city security). She simply came over when Zac threatened to kill another member of the court. Her intention is simply to make Zac back down and realise that Isabella is not an easy or unsupported target. Hence the intimidation roll.
Isabella Perez (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:22 AM)
Yes, and from what I understand, you can live without those, so no death threat was stated until you threatened my character.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:10:54 AM)
Okay Folks. here's my thoughts on this
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:11:31 AM)
1. Zac - while i understand you feel it's ooc, it doesnt appear to be so to me. *however* the consequences here for your character really dont sound that dire. folks just want you to back down
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:11:41 AM)
2. I dont see a problem with lack of init for *rp* actions.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:11:46 AM)
if this was real combat i'd say otherwise.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:05 AM)
she rolled attack... and could have dealt damage without any kind of surprise rollis my point
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:16 AM)
i think she was rolling attack just to see if she hit you
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:24 AM)
and no, she couldnt roll damage in that case if it's an rped out action
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:29 AM)
which she didnt.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:37 AM)
and really my only concern was the scene escalating and something bad happening since it was ooc driven it could have bneen driven further
Isabella Perez (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:49 AM)
Zac, for the LAST time, this is NOT OOC driven.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:52 AM)
right but what i'm saying here is - there's no damage. there's no real combat.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:55 AM)
nod nod
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:12:57 AM)
i dont think this is ooc driven, what i'm going to recommend
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:09 AM)
is that you keep the ic ic, your character apparently *can* get out of this without a scratch by backing down
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:19 AM)
and if you have a problem *ooc* with the other players, do what Lucinde has done- avoid them.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:28 AM)
i have been trying to
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:40 AM)
I'm sure you can come up with a way to do that.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:41 AM)
and am fine with mutual iognoring
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:53 AM)
then that's my recommendation. icly back out of this, and ya'll just avoid each other
Lucinde Duboir (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:54 AM)
... I have a problem with demon players?
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:13:57 AM)
but since the people involved are sts its not very easy
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:06 AM)
Lucinde- i meant london. i am *so* sorry.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:14 AM)
i have been to this point sig
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:21 AM)
Zac - theyr'e not demon sts
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:26 AM)
I only avoid him .. and I am nto an st
Lucinde Duboir (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:29 AM)
that's okay. I'm on drugs for the hand, so I didn't know if I said something I didn't remember.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:34 AM)
you can say that but they are...
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:42 AM)
ill drop it though
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:53 AM)
look if something happens you feel is unfair and ooc driven *screenshot it* please
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:14:56 AM)
would just like a witness when my char backs down if it escalates
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:01 AM)
including the part of the ooc bits okay?
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:06 AM)
you have plenty of witnesses in here.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:07 AM)
thats why you are here
Lucinde Duboir (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:29 AM)
(I'm getting ice cream, afk for a moment)
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:34 AM)
i get that but i'm saying *i* dont see anything ooc driven. i understand how you feel but i'm not getting it. but if you want me to watch while this resolves, i can do that as well.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:43 AM)
that would be nice...
Isabella Perez (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:44 AM)
I would like to request, before we get back to the scene, that Zac apologize to the Demon staff for his insults and accusations that we would allow our PC actions and feelings to color and taint our ST actions.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:49 AM)
no
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:51 AM)
i wont
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:15:59 AM)
Okay how about this instead
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:16:17 AM)
we just all ignore each other and play?
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:16:20 AM)
since people dont...want to play nice . Zac, you are not making my night - lets say his character backs down, and leave the scene there?
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:16:26 AM)
is everyone *else* okay with that?
Isabella Perez (Jun 23, 2011 12:16:31 AM)
Fine with me.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:16:35 AM)
good by me
Ogre. (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:03 AM)
I had no issues with anyone to begin with. *shrugs* I'm just here to witness rolls as requested.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:07 AM)
sorry sig but i already dealt with this in mage and now its gotten rediculous.. and i didnt complaing then cus i thought it would go away if i didnt
Violetta duBois (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:08 AM)
I'm not comfortable with it, but I'll go along to save everyone's headaches.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:22 AM)
Violetta, thank you and if you arent happy feel free to fpm me and we can talk about it
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:24 AM)
if you would like
gothicmingus (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:26 AM)
Can I leave now?
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:32 AM)
yes gm - scoot.
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:34 AM)
Now you are slandering and I will lodge a complaint
Violetta duBois (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:36 AM)
Thanks SD I will :)
gothicmingus (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:40 AM)
WHEEE !! FREEDOM!
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Violetta duBois (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:45 AM)
lol thanks goth
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:17:58 AM)
Zac - go play with someone else is all i'm going to say here okay?
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:18:11 AM)
not a problem
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:18:14 AM)
Alright then.
Zacarias Martin (Jun 23, 2011 12:18:24 AM)
have a great night all
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Ogre. (Jun 23, 2011 12:19:00 AM)
Sorry about that Siggy, I'm not even sure what provoked that
Lucinde Duboir (Jun 23, 2011 12:20:43 AM)
.. I.. totally am not involved, IC or OOC. ::hides;:
Ogre. (Jun 23, 2011 12:20:48 AM)
okay RP on and I'm off to my cave if folks need me.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:20:52 AM)
It's fine. i'm not angry with any of ya'll.
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:21:01 AM)
have fun. if i'm not needed anymore i'm going to toddle off to the next problem i had in yellow
Ogre. (Jun 23, 2011 12:21:01 AM)
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Violetta duBois (Jun 23, 2011 12:21:04 AM)
Thanks for the help... the scene's kinda broken so I'm going to bounce.
Violetta duBois (Jun 23, 2011 12:21:12 AM)
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Isabella Perez (Jun 23, 2011 12:21:21 AM)
yeah, i'm with Violetta on this one.... sorry for the bail, but need some not SI time for a little bit
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:21:51 AM)
yeah im pretty much done here too , im sick of the slander and the lies and nothng being done abou tit
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:22:19 AM)
i have done everything such as leave when he shows up, block his pms and such but im still put in crap?
Lucinde Duboir (Jun 23, 2011 12:22:33 AM)
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SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:23:16 AM)
London, i'm not upset with you
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:23:32 AM)
and i will send this log to Dastai
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:23:32 AM)
Oh I know. I have been dealing with this harassment for a while and its getting old
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:23:47 AM)
who is much better at handling this sort of thing than I. if you have other screenshots or anything i suggest you send them to her as well
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:27:49 AM)
this has been going on for a while, I even made a new character to escape his crap
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:28:23 AM)
hes 730 nutty and I refuse to have anything to do with him and the mage st knows that so he was lying about taking anything to mage
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:29:08 AM)
i'll be talking to the mage st about that
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:29:30 AM)
feel free. :) thank you for listening
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:29:41 AM)
Now I need to go get a beer
SignalDancer (Jun 23, 2011 12:30:09 AM)
yw. and yeah i wish i could have a beer at this hour. :p go have a 2nd for me
London Carter (Jun 23, 2011 12:30:22 AM)
Done
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