ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:43:15 AM)
what are you plotting?
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:43:25 AM)
my background
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:43:40 AM)
because 10 pages is not good enough yet?
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:44:02 AM)
no, not really
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:45:15 AM)
besides, how do you know how long it is so far?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:45:43 AM)
because you were talking to me about it
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:45:54 AM)
........ when?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:46:03 AM)
earlier
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:46:09 AM)
and you are?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:46:27 AM)
not the st you were speaking with
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:46:40 AM)
oh... hi Ghost
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:47:07 AM)
that would be interesting. I am sure I would accidentaly deleat some pc
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:47:39 AM)
that's ok... that's why i always save it onto a jumpdrive
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:49:05 AM)
man you are just like this other person I speak to all the time. It is like I type words and when they are recieved they are totaly different words
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:49:38 AM)
no, i intentionally misunderstand things until they make sense to me
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:52:41 AM)
si that sarcasmn?
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:52:51 AM)
.... actually, no
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:53:03 AM)
then that is where we have a problem.
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:53:22 AM)
.... sorry?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:56:30 AM)
it explaines why we have comunication issues
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:56:44 AM)
ok, then tell me what you meant?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:58:51 AM)
from our first conversation to this one an dprobibly the ones that will follow are fundimentaly fucked as we do not comunicate well because I am obviously confusing
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 12:59:38 AM)
not entirely your fault... it's more along the lines that i'm just not paying attention as much as i should, because most of aforementioned attention is being split between music and getting this background finished
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:05:51 AM)
that is today but it was not the other day
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:06:15 AM)
*looks over and blinks*.... wait, what?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:06:57 AM)
maybe it counts both days I only remember music, but you have been working ont he backround for a week so it must have been both
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:07:25 AM)
ok, hang on... 8sets background aside* back up a minute and let's start over, because i'm entirely lost
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:07:46 AM)
no no keep working on your backround
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:09:19 AM)
not until i figure out what the hell you're talking about... because, yeah, i've been working on the same background for a week... that probably bothers me more than it bothers you, but it's how i operate... i refuse to give an ST something that isn't worth their time and energy to read thru... which leads me into writing really long-winded backgrounds... but i have yet to submit a character that was denied due to issues with my background story....
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:10:56 AM)
but really where is the line between a good backround and and excessive backround?
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:11:42 AM)
when i hit 20 pages, it's excessive
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:12:00 AM)
I believe ten is excessive.
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:12:14 AM)
shit I believe 3 is to much
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:12:26 AM)
differences of opinion... it sometimes takes me 10 pages just to get warmed up
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:12:50 AM)
I do not know one st that would want to read anythign over 3.
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:12:59 AM)
then again, i've also been writing novelettes and short stories for the last 15 years... and my editor would always want more from me....
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:13:32 AM)
then you have lenients to some extent your a profesional
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:14:47 AM)
.... i dunno if i would go so far as to call myself a professional... yeah, i got paid for my work and, yeah, for a time, i did it for a living... but now, i write for the sheer fun of it
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:15:10 AM)
you have an editor , meaning you get paid for it yes?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:15:18 AM)
then yes you are a professional
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:16:24 AM)
besides, as hubby's wont to tell me, women are always the long-winded ones
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:20:18 AM)
ok
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:21:42 AM)
it's just a matter of how much the other person really wants to read... and Omen's already told me he doesn't mind reading... so, in order to do him and the venue justice, i'm throwing everything i have at it
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:23:01 AM)
I can not fathom that information not being redundent
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:23:28 AM)
ok, it's almost 230 in the morning here... translation into english?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:24:43 AM)
we live in the same time zone, the words might not be spelled correctly but they are english words
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:25:28 AM)
I do not understand how you can write all that and not repeat yourself to an extent that would be un needed
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:26:05 AM)
and that is the whole point... writing something and not being redundant with anything....
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:26:21 AM)
would you like to see the human half of the background and judge for yourself?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:27:44 AM)
right and I can not understand how more than three pages is not repeating everything. I just believe you do nto ned that many words to convay an idea to the extent that some one can understand
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:30:25 AM)
but it's not just about mere understanding... anyone can merely understand a concept with just a couple of sentences... however, if someone were to hand you a background of one, maybe two, paragraphs, i highly doubt you would approve it... you cannot say, and expect me to believe, that you wouldn't understand their concept... however, nothing would be explained... the character would be, at best, one-dimensional... in order for a character to truly have a life of their own, to work in any kind of role-playing system, there must be something there to base play off of... there has to be a reason for everything...
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:35:33 AM)
I do nto believe the st needs to know every fasset of the pc and the dementions of the charactor just what drives them and what made them who they are. an explination of what your dots represent not a novle
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:36:09 AM)
and i'll say it again, differences of opinion... besides, i'm not explaining every dot
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:37:21 AM)
I think every dot should be explained but then again I believe an explination of why you know how to speak spanish should not be hella long
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:37:45 AM)
let me ask you something... do you read books?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:37:53 AM)
yes,yes
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:38:14 AM)
ok, and do all of your books have pictures in them, or are the vast majority nothing but words?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:38:44 AM)
condisention never makes a conversation go well
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:38:57 AM)
i'm not being condescending, i'm being honest
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:42:51 AM)
get to the point
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:44:58 AM)
the books you read i can almost bet are never the same length... they're wordy, they take time getting to the point, if they even manage it in only one book... many of them go into a second or third... or 15th, in some cases, but that's beside the point... expecting all stories to be short, sweet and to the point is, IMHO, highly narrow-minded and very unrealistic... just because the vast majority of players online don't write their backgrounds as extensively as i do mine, that makes mine somehow wrong?
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:49:53 AM)
yes, for me wrong. a long story can be told in many books but for a book or a story to be told it needs to have a begining a middle and and end even if the (bme) is not the full story the book is till good if it only hits on the main parts of the overall story for a moment or two. I do not wish for a short simple story I just wish for it to be as wordie as it needs to be and no more. For me to understand what is going on I do not need 12 pages of how somones eyes look. I believe 4 or more pages for the profile of a charactor is far to much. as you can explaine everythign you need to with less words
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:52:30 AM)
and you assuming that my background is so long because i'm spending so much time on physical attributes is merely proving my point that we're at an impasse because of a difference of opinion... you appear convinced that my background is unworthy of your time, without bothering to read it, because of an misconception of why it is so long... while i know that my background is so long because i actually took the time to sit down and write out everything that needed to be said, how it needed to be said, when it needed to be said, and by whom...
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:56:07 AM)
no I never said it was because of physical attributes that was an example that I pulled from anne rice as i believe she is way to wordy with discriptions that do not matter. I am fine with dark chocolate eyes that have a piercing gaze to them that can see in to ones soul. over a full paragraph of said brown eyes. I never said it was unworthy of my time like I am some sort of snob or some shit. just to wordy for the aplication of what you are writing it for.
SerenePrincess OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:57:29 AM)
ok comparing me to Anne Rice isn't going to really win your argument for you and doesn't make a conversation go well
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:58:42 AM)
she is a renown writer, a compliment was plaid even if I do not enjoy all of her writing and brb need to logg in my vamp for what I am sure is going to be a bunch of bullshit
ONE OOC (Nov 5, 2010 1:58:56 AM)
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