Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:31:34 PM)
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Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:34:54 PM)
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Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:13 PM)
You aren't a mage!
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:32 PM)
get em!
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:32 PM)
on the contrary.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:35:41 PM)
*uses magic to enslave!*
CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:09 PM)
*blinks at them*
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:15 PM)
*dazzles Lior with science*
CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:20 PM)
oh... hi... *blinkblink*
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:25 PM)
Behold a microwave!
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:34 PM)
oooohh ahhhhh
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:36:36 PM)
*cackles*
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:37:12 PM)
A year or two ago, she had never seen such a thing, so that's about right, Omega.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:38:10 PM)
I have to look up when the first Microwave was made..Grim may not have seen one
CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:38:52 PM)
*sings*
CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:39:08 PM)
The west way goes eastern
And right where the beast yearns
A void lies inside
Now I'm here and there can never be return
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:39:30 PM)
I think they where before 1971
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:39:38 PM)
http://www.gallawa.com/microtech/history.html
CowboyGhostie (Dec 7, 2011 5:40:34 PM)
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Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:40:50 PM)
Okay. Sweet
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:41:12 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1jHDG0XdJw
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 5:41:24 PM)
About nine years after Lior went on a little trip.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:42:27 PM)
I could always say he saw it at the worlds fair
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:44:27 PM)
Magic people....Voodoo people.....Vooodoo!
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:48:55 PM)
What would be a good calling card?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:08 PM)
Last time I had a glass rose.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:22 PM)
Depends what mythology you're playing off of.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:36 PM)
Thats what I was thinking to
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:49:55 PM)
I think I will have the calling card be based off the targets religous preferance
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:01 PM)
That kind of defeats the purpose of the flaw, though. It's gotta be consistant.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:27 PM)
Well a good one is the silver peices on the eyes
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:34 PM)
or in the hand
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:42 PM)
to pay the fayre man
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:51:57 PM)
and since he spends 40 years as such a thing..It would fit
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 5:52:45 PM)
Indeed.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 5:54:15 PM)
that just kinda...Makes him more creepy
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:00:05 PM)
hum
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:00:14 PM)
I need ideas. I hate that
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:00:22 PM)
*shares*
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:03:25 PM)
you better hurry though my beer is almost gone, and when that happens I'll have no more ideas
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:07:11 PM)
lol
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:07:49 PM)
*has the gift "Wasted Talent"*
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:08:37 PM)
lol
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:11:23 PM)
Should I be worried that my wife sent me a Text that reads: Perv, and I have yet to do anything remotely pervy
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:11:47 PM)
did that come out of nowere?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:00 PM)
Pretty much
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:16 PM)
yeah...i'd be worried
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:19 PM)
I haven't seen her really since 10 this morning
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:26 PM)
lol
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:38 PM)
I don't remember doing anything perverted
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:12:56 PM)
yeah well...maybe she didnt mean to send that to you
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:13:09 PM)
Could be
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:13:15 PM)
she does have a lot of male admirers
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:14:55 PM)
I'm hungry
Omega Smith (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:15 PM)
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Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:19 PM)
i should see about foods
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:25 PM)
lol
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:15:30 PM)
that is an awesome exit
Lior Axel (Dec 7, 2011 6:16:21 PM)
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Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:17:13 PM)
brb
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:25:44 PM)
back
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:16 PM)
wb
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:25 PM)
Danke
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:36 PM)
*sighs* Hi. I'm having a bad day. You?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:27:55 PM)
My day isn't that great either
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:02 PM)
I'm sorry you're having a bad day though
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:08 PM)
I can log out if you perfer
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:12 PM)
:)
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:16 PM)
*cracks open a cheerwine, toasts* To our days getting better?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:37 PM)
man..I would love you forever right now if I could have some
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:28:38 PM)
lol
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:11 PM)
heh, i wish i could
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:17 PM)
most of the year i can't find the stuff
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:30 PM)
but come the holidays.. the stores start stocking it
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:53 PM)
I'm a hard man to get rid of when I love someone forever now..
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:29:59 PM)
;)
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:30:49 PM)
anyways.. *peers at you*
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:16 PM)
...Almost makes mefeel like I should cover something up
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:25 PM)
heh
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:32 PM)
you done playing with stats on your end?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:31:40 PM)
yep
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:32:57 PM)
even though my Talismen should be listed as an arifact. But eh
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:33:04 PM)
its just wording really
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:35:57 PM)
I noticed this before, but you have Architect/Guru as your nature/demeanor. Sadly, Guru is not in the mage books.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:36:19 PM)
...its a Demeanor.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:36:49 PM)
I didn't think I was restricted to Demeanors found only in the book
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:37:34 PM)
It is. May I suggest Pedagogue?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:37:51 PM)
...Sure
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:38:10 PM)
I have no idea what that is however
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:38:15 PM)
(it's pg 99 in the corebook.)
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:38:30 PM)
Very well
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:40:02 PM)
It's all restricted to stuff out of the books. Aside from rotes and such.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:41:22 PM)
I figured that most of it would be..But a Nature Demeanor is something that isn't Venue Speific, in that all venues have them. *shrugs* I'm not complaining, nor do I care. I will take your suggestion. I just find that restrict a basic trait such as that to strictly the core book is a tad silly.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:41:57 PM)
That by the way is not in your creation rules
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:44:10 PM)
As you know, we are playing the Revised version of Mage the Ascension. This causes some confusion in relation to which books are Revised and which are not. Whitewolf was contacted, and they directed us to a list, these are the relevant books off that List. Also note, we are not using any sort of equal oppurtunity rules.
Mage the Ascension (Revised), Sorcerer (Revised), Guide to the Traditions, All Tradition Books (Revised), Forged by Dragon's Fire, Infinite Tapestry, Book of Madness (Revised), Mage Storyteller's Handbook (Revised), and Mage Storyteller's Companion
Characters are to be created using the rules in these books. Sleepers and Consors are to be made using the Sorcerer rules, just skip the numina section. Rules, Material, and Merits and Flaws from any books not on this list are disallowed unless an exception has been made.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:45:04 PM)
Correct
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:45:19 PM)
I did not build the PC based off another Venues book
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:45:47 PM)
And as I said. The Nature Demeanor is not listed as being required to pull speifically from the Mage core.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:46:15 PM)
Guru -is- infact a nature demeanor. Just not in that book. So I will change it
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:46:18 PM)
no big deal
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:46:31 PM)
I'm not stressin over it. :)
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:47:50 PM)
you're one short on social. cha2, man2, app1 ...what did you wanna do?
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:33 PM)
er.. *cough* phys actually.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:47 PM)
*feels momentarily dumb*
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:52 PM)
lol Dex
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:48:54 PM)
Your fine
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:50:55 PM)
:) And the Int Spec, Forethought is nice, but It would be really hard to make calls whether it applys or not. Would Good Memory work, or would you prefer Booksmart, Creative, Analytical, Logical, or Subject Authority?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:53:51 PM)
The Speicality of forethought applies to the target subject and knowing their next two moves before they do. Like playing chess. If I have to change it. Analytical would be second best. But I don't really know when I'd use it
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:55:35 PM)
And Visionary (as a Demeanor) fits better, simply because he isn't going to really teach anyone anything. More so fullfil their last desires
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:55:48 PM)
I had to get my core
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:56:31 PM)
K. You're short one in skills. And, you get free lores if they apply or you want them. Traditions (Tradition Society), Crafts(Other Societies), Parapsycology (Psychic Lore), Awakened (Awakened Magic), and Linear (Linear Magic).
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:57:19 PM)
The Middle section?
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:57:25 PM)
yeah
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:57:41 PM)
Crafts
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:02 PM)
and the focus for that should be "Wood working"
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:06 PM)
or wood work
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:10 PM)
*nod* So you wanna go with Orphan, or did you want to go with Euthanatos?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:37 PM)
well you suggested Orphan, so I'll side with that
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:47 PM)
It suits him.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 6:58:49 PM)
:)
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 6:59:04 PM)
*nods*
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:03:12 PM)
hmm.. where's calling card from, i can't remember
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:03:24 PM)
Euthie Trad book
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:04:20 PM)
Death Walker is also there
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:07:04 PM)
*numbercrunching*
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:10:04 PM)
while your doing that I'm going to get a beer and grab a smoke
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:17:43 PM)
Hmm. Okay. Backgrounds. You get 7, you have 8 + 2 adversarial. so that's +1 freebie there. +3 Anac, +2 calling card -4 Deathwalker. +15 Freebies. So 17 to spend.. You spent +7, +7 +4 +4 on magic and nowhere else. That's 5 over. Now we could just fix this, but there's one other thing I need you to consider. Your paradigm is more an explination of how he gains more magic than how he actually uses it. Given that, I'd not be able to give you more than Arete 2, which from the looks of things will throw a monkeywrench into what you want to do with him. :-/
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:20:54 PM)
Adverisal backgrounds count towards flaw points yes?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:25:46 PM)
So I have 5+ 2 for backgrounds which is the max number of flaws added to 15 is 22-7 for A sphere is 15, minus three for backgrounds is 12, I spent 8 to raise my avatar to 3 so thats 4, and then I spent 4 in abilities
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:26:33 PM)
in law and investigation
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:27:10 PM)
and my Pentgriam is actually on my background as a Reply
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:27:20 PM)
The foci is Ritualistic
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:27:55 PM)
Wait.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:28:43 PM)
That last four I believe went to my merit not abilities
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:29:32 PM)
Yeah, it should have been 22-7-4-8-3
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:29:48 PM)
Sphere, Merit, Avatar, backgrounds
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:31:20 PM)
Backgrounds. Not counting Notoriety, you have 8 points in it. One extra. Means you spent a freebie.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:31:50 PM)
I spent three
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:32:05 PM)
Sphere, Merit, Avatar, and Backgrounds
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:32:46 PM)
o.O I think we are confusing each other. Where do you think you spent your freebies?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:34:01 PM)
I bought Life Sphere, I bought the Merit Death walker, I rose my Avatar to 3 and then I bought Familiar and Resources
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:34:33 PM)
hmm. I do not even see Avatar on your sheet.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:16 PM)
...Its right next to Willpower
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:33 PM)
That's Arete.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:49 PM)
*Sighs*
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:51 PM)
You know what..
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:35:55 PM)
:) I think i see the confusion.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:02 PM)
Lol
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:17 PM)
Avatar and Arete are meant to conside
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:29 PM)
but eh
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:36:36 PM)
I'll go back and rework the sheet if I have to
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:37:00 PM)
Avatar is actually a background, and i've been reworking it as we discuss it. :)
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:37:34 PM)
Right, but inorder to have a Arete of three you have to have a Avatar score of the same level or higher
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:37:45 PM)
That is not true.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:38:06 PM)
At least, I've never seen that rule anywhere in Revised.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:33 PM)
You can start without an Avatar rating. It just means your avatar is so weak it can't store prime energies.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:34 PM)
eh
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:48 PM)
Its related to Quint
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:39:53 PM)
not the Arete
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:00 PM)
*nod*
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:01 PM)
*sighs* Man I give up
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:06 PM)
do what you will
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:07 PM)
lol
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:12 PM)
:) When was the last time you played mage?
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:28 PM)
Its not that..Its that I made the sheet on like 3 hours of sleep
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:40:50 PM)
and with out the book at myside
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:41:28 PM)
*nod* Well that can make for some loopyness, i've found. No worries.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:42:20 PM)
So he has no Avatar. LOL oh well
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:45:55 PM)
Alright.. breakdown.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:45:56 PM)
5/3/7
13/5/9
8bkg/2Adversarial(-1 / +2 Freebies)
5wp
3 Arete/8 Spheres (-8 Freebies / -14 Freebies)
1 merit/ 2 flaws (-4 / +5 Freebies)
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:46:27 PM)
I didn't spend anything on willpower
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:46:52 PM)
Did not say you did? You start with 5.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:16 PM)
Right, it was in the break down so I figured it meant you thought I spent
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:21 PM)
but carry on
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:24 PM)
I was wrong
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:47:58 PM)
And there's still the problem of paradigm. Yes, I was going off what you have in your background thread. That's.. Not quite minimum.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:48:28 PM)
Then I'll have to rework it
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:48:52 PM)
*nod* This is what i've got on the creation thread for paradigm.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:49:16 PM)
Paradigm - I am Looking for a set of assumptions, concepts, and values that constitute the way of viewing reality for your mage. One has to know How to do something Special before they can do it, a Paradigm defines how that sort of Special operates and where your character believes their powers come from. You can expand upon it later, but please submit at least two paragraphs for this no matter what flavor of magic your character is.
CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:49:22 PM)
and I can give you an example if you want.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:49:44 PM)
In theory thats how his magic is created..Souls resenate in some aspect a level of sphere. Weather they know it or not
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:50:20 PM)
to achive that level of sphere he must match there chosen end and make sure they are at rest
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:50:54 PM)
Thats it in a nut shell
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:51:42 PM)
If thats not enough, I'll need time to rework it
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:04 PM)
I need to go. I'm being summoned rather rudely
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:08 PM)
I'll work on it
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:17 PM)
I'm sorry to just cut and run like this.
Grim Mortzen (Dec 7, 2011 7:52:23 PM)
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CG - AFW, PM if you need me. (Dec 7, 2011 7:58:21 PM)
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