Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:23:31 PM)
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Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:24:36 PM)
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Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:26:12 PM)
*Sarah called her father on the way with a cell phone...they speak in Salish and she hangs up* He'll be over.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:26:38 PM)
*She went into the house as soon as she could, there was a bit of work to making the gumbo but it was the best she could do* I am not quite good with my Salish yet Sarah, how is your cajun coming along?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:28:42 PM)
Not so great.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:30:52 PM)
*CF* considering how many things you persue at one time it is a wonder your overly processing brain doesn't overheat *as she begins to brown the butter

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:30:54 PM)
I've actually been studying more with Hilma about ....our enemy.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:31:32 PM)
*She translated what she said to Sarah, then adds* which enemy?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:33:59 PM)
I know I jump from interest to interest....unless theres a need important enough I see things through.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:34:02 PM)
The Wyrm.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:34:03 PM)
*Butter, flour, fellu

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:34:42 PM)
"I thought the garou were more a danger of causing their own extinction the way they go at each other

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:35:22 PM)
"That reminds me, did you see the article in the newspaper?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:35:27 PM)
Which one?

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:36:21 PM)
The one about the Sasquash

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:36:29 PM)
No I haven't.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:36:48 PM)
*she holds up a finger and looks for her satchel, retrieving a cut out article for sarah *

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:37:28 PM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1991

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:38:24 PM)
Humm probably just beered up teens and a poor black bear.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:39:13 PM)
"we hope right? because it's way too far South to be Big Foot

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:40:26 PM)
*Once the flour was browned, entered the browned chicken, broth, spicy sausage, crab, shrimp, crayfish, and oysters*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:43:35 PM)
*at last a knock on the door*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:44:46 PM)
"she looked at Sarah, do you get that or should I?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:46:52 PM)
*Sarah lets in her father, he stands about six foot, a middle aged Native-American man with silvering hair. He has tribal tattooing geometric design sort of framing one of his eyes, but small and understated, he is wearing modern clothing except for a medicine bag much like Sarahs*

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 10:47:03 PM)
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Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 10:47:39 PM)
*he slips out of the umbra and walks towards the packhouse in silence, he looks around as he walks*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:47:54 PM)
*Sarah is letting a tall Native American man into the house*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:47:58 PM)
*The house is filled with smells of food cooking, she turned to cooking the rice, hiding a smile behind her hand*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:49:23 PM)
Joe: Hey Sarah hows my little girl! *they hug* I spoke with Hilma. This is a good place here. Challenging for Adren no less. Sarah: Hey Dad....we are having gumbo, come on into the kitchen...

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 10:49:45 PM)
*he looks at the tall man and says nothing as he continues to walk towards the door*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:51:40 PM)
*she peaked out of the kitchen, curious at Sarah's father again, then ducked back in and busied herself

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:54:40 PM)
*as her father steps aside Sarah notices Danny* Oh hey...umm Megan is making gumbo come on in I guess. Umm this is my father Joseph Runningfox,....*the older man speaks* Joe: Joseph Runningfox, deeded Old Tongue, Athro Storyteller of the Uktena. I belong to Three Rocks sept in Washington State. Down South here mostly for the wedding and just around establishing tribal connections.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:55:10 PM)
*Sarah goes on into the kitchen*

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 10:55:25 PM)
*he bows respectively to the man* greetings Old Tongue Rhya, a pleasure and honor, you have an amazing daughter

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:55:55 PM)
"Sarah, what is an athro?>

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:56:37 PM)
*she looks at Megan* 5 ranks in garou society. Claith are the first rank. Means they are no longer cubs. Proven to the tribes properly and in theory stand as adult garou.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:58:09 PM)
*she was listening able to ask questions without akwardness since Joseph hadn't made it into the kitchen yet*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 10:58:38 PM)
"how does one get rank?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 10:59:16 PM)
Fostern is the next rank. Garou who have proven themselves a bit. Adren are mid ranks. Some of the sept position holders are Adren. Athro are above them...standing right below the elders. Leaders and powerful garou in there own right. Elders are the highest and the term is self explainitory.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:00:29 PM)
"I've noticed not all leaders have the same rank

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:01:58 PM)
Renown....a mix of your deeds, actions, reputation, and training status. Once a claith thinks he has enough standing in the sept to be taken seriously goes to one of the next rank up and challenges them to be recognized as the higher rank. The garou challenged sets a task for them to do. The task is supposed to test to see if they truly are ready for the next rank. The task varies. If the garou succedes he gets recognized for rank.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:02:45 PM)
With each rank comes greater access to knowledge and power.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:02:50 PM)
Especially with the spirits.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:03:15 PM)
"what is more important, the word of an elder, or the word of a spirit?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:03:25 PM)
Joe looks at Danny: Aren't you going to introduce yourself son?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:03:41 PM)
Depends on the spirit.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:04:09 PM)
"I think Horus mentioned that not all spirits were good

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:04:13 PM)
If it's a tribal totem Incarna maybe the spirit. If it's a lowly gaffling probably the elders.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:04:31 PM)
*She frowned for a moment, thinking*

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:05:26 PM)
oh sorry forgive me, I am Danny McDougal, Medicus Obediens, Theurge to the Fianna, Claith to the nation, Petitioner to Shades of Grey, under Owl

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:05:50 PM)
"Sarah can a person become posessed by a spirit? I can't remember if you mentioned it before

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:05:53 PM)
Joe: Sarah said dinner was in the making...lets not keep them waiting. *he enters the kitchen*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:06:34 PM)
Sarah: Yes they can. If they are strong enough. ....banes sometimes do it.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:07:26 PM)
"So what would you do if you knew of a child that had been abused, almost killed by her parents who are now dead, and now she acts odd sometimes, gets into fits

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:07:27 PM)
*he nods and follows the higher ranking garou in silence*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:07:59 PM)
"Throws trays at people and yells, when everything had been fine a moment before?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:08:17 PM)
*shrugs* Get her a shrink?

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:08:53 PM)
Sorry not every shred of odd human behavior is spirit induced. Humans are wacky on there own most of the time.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:09:54 PM)
Joe: Interesting conversation topic. Hello....Ms. Hunt was it? Your facility did a lovely job with the wedding I must say. Sarah told me you were a ward of her pack.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:12:18 PM)
*he looks at Danny:* Just remember any bit of craziness in Sarah is her mothers fault.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:12:26 PM)
Sarah: Daaaad.

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:12:55 PM)
she is not crazy sir, I rathe enjoy being her friend

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:14:35 PM)
Sarah smiles: "Crazy like a fox".

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:14:43 PM)
"um yes, I'm Megan Hunt, daughter of Madeline DuLyons, who was deeded Whispers of the Past a homid, theurge, adren of the Child of Gaia. It's good to see you again

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:15:35 PM)
Joe: Pleased to meet you. You seem to have alot of questions.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:15:46 PM)
*Sarah is setting the table*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:16:12 PM)
"Questions that are always hopefully worth answering, if you would have a seat dinner is almost ready I just have to serve the rice.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:17:44 PM)
*Danny is included at the place settings*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:17:53 PM)
*Sarah and Joe sit down*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:18:02 PM)
"I was thinking that myself Sarah, it's just nice to have someone to bounce the idea off of.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:18:35 PM)
*She brought the rice to the table first and then the gumbo, which was in a huge pot*

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:19:47 PM)
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Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:19:54 PM)
Sarah: Moms already back at Berkley....I'll need to send her wedding photos. I'm sorry I didn't go full on Suquamish dad....the ceremony was more for mother.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:20:11 PM)
Joe: Thats OK hun. We've had to humor your mother for a long time now.

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:20:20 PM)
*horus walks to the pack house.. from .. where ever the hell he is at when he is not here*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:20:39 PM)
*She started serving up the food, making sure more places are set as the pack tends to gather around this time*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:20:43 PM)
*They are in the kitchen...Gumbo is being served, Danny is over, and Sarah's father is here*

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:21:57 PM)
*he walks in, and nods to the gathered*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:21:57 PM)
"You were saying leaders have some standing, does it help you with your renown or is leadership a standing of it's own? And if you have leadership standing how does that work when a leader with more experience is lower ranked and more capable of giving orders?

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:23:30 PM)
*she immiedatel y began serving up some food for horus smiling his way when he enters the room*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:24:04 PM)
Leading a pack boosts renown. Leading missions CAN, if you don't screw up. Screw ups certainly hurt one's standing. .................As for rank verses leadership. It's very situational. In a war party Ahrouns usually take lead in combat. There are times I've stepped back and let a claith Ahroun handle things because, they are better at it than I am.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:26:32 PM)
Joe: And sometimes the higher ranking leads simply BECAUSE of rank. And they might be an idiot. But the nice thing about the Nation is the challenge system. If a leader acts enough like an idiot and makes enough mistakes theres always someone just below them coming up the rungs, that will challenge them right out of there spot. Oh it's not perfect. To certain tribes and septs Might certainly seems to make RIGHT.....but thats what clever ragabash are for.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:27:31 PM)
Joe: Or Galliards. With of we Galliards as the PR specialists. Pissing off a good Galliard is a good way to really wreck your reputation.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:27:49 PM)
"I've seen kinfolks in challenge circles before, but rarely. However i get the feeling that we aren't high enough ranked to do such things, any words on that?

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:28:46 PM)
*he stand to the side and listens to them speak*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:29:05 PM)
Joe: Kinfolk in challenges? Never heard of it.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:30:46 PM)
"why?"

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:31:13 PM)
*he remains quiet*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:32:10 PM)
*she was bristling around, there was no actual emotion in her voice save curiousity

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:32:53 PM)
Joe: Guess they could do gamecraft but...*he looks baffled* Usually the garou relations would challenge on a kin's behave if there was a problem. As far as the Nation is concerned kin don't have alot of standing. Yet it's a stupid pack or tribe that fails to treat a kinfolk with respect. You have a odd place really. Not quite fully OF the Nation but not apart from it either.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:33:07 PM)
*Infront of everyone was deposited a couple pitchers, sweet tea and lemoaide*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:33:48 PM)
"what if there are no garou relations to challenge for a kinfolk's sake?

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:34:24 PM)
then there gaurdian should do it

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:34:28 PM)
Sarah: Kinfolk certainly couldn't do the classic combat challenges. Or Staredown. Joe: A tribal elder might, or a protective pack.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:34:55 PM)
Sarah: Unless their Guardian is a moron.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:35:13 PM)
Sarah: You can always appeal to tribal elders.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:35:31 PM)
"I've heard some kinfolk try to persaude garou into challenges, this is part of why I ask

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:36:22 PM)
Joe: I suppose if the garou took up the kin on the challenge and the Challenge Master supported it then it would go through. BUT I doubt the garou would lose face if he rejected such a challenge.

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:36:37 PM)
*he moves over and stands near Megan as they talk.. keeping silent .. just listening*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:37:12 PM)
Joe: Garou don't HAVE to accept challenges from kin. Some septs probably wouldn't let kin challenge at all. While a more liberal sept MIGHT hear a kin out. It's very subjective.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:38:09 PM)
Sarah: Thats where you run into tribal attitudes, and how traditional a sept might be...

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:38:45 PM)
Joe: I can see why you like her Sarah. She thinks this one does. Who is the other one if I may ask? *He looks at Horus*

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:39:52 PM)
*she went quiet, refreshing drinks as she nudges horus to introduce

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:40:43 PM)
*he remains silentl stting at the table*

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:41:01 PM)
i am Horus Alexander, Deeded Walks the Dark Road, metis born under the creasant face of Kohns, to those that Stride the Silent Sands, cliath to the nation of garou, Member of the Shared Blood Sept, Member of the Shades of Grey pack, under owls watchful gaze

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:42:50 PM)
Joe: Oh I didn't see you at the wedding.... Joseph Runningfox, deeded Old Tongue, Athro Storyteller of the Uktena. Of the Twin Tails pack from Three Rocks sept in Washington State. Father of Talisman Seeker.

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:43:55 PM)
with the circumstances.. i choose to honor them with the spirits.. instead of creating .. issues if your mate where to see me without my sunglasses on.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:44:16 PM)
Sarah: Danny, Horus...there is some sort of questing pack...thats gone missing between a neighboring sept and our own. I'm thinking our pack should lend itself to the search efforts once a lead is found. Just letting you know.

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:45:10 PM)
thank you for the heads up Sister

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:45:21 PM)
Joe: *he takes a long look at Horus's eyes* I understand. Yeah Mary doesn't need to see that. Shes better off in Berkley lecturing those bored students of hers. Your mother was much more interesting as a hippy Sarah.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:46:02 PM)
Sarah: Don't remind me.

Danny McDougal (Dec 10, 2010 11:46:24 PM)
you know I think alot of people call me a hippy

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:47:38 PM)
*she facepalms* I will be happy if I never hear that word again *she has a seat with the trues, dishing herself up a plate now*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:47:39 PM)
Joe: Hippy's were an interesting movement. Peace, love, respect for nature. Really good ................parties. Yes. Excellent music. It was a happening time. But that whole lets go bug the Native Americans for there shamon wisdom............that was funny as hell.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:48:11 PM)
Sarah: Daaaaad.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:48:42 PM)
Joe: I'd stop bitching Sarah. You were born because of it!

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:48:43 PM)
"It wasn't just the native americans either, Grandmother said she had plenty of people trying to get her Voodun secrets"

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:48:51 PM)
Sarah: *is now face palming*

Horus Alexander (Dec 10, 2010 11:49:54 PM)
*he stands and listens to them speak*

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:50:09 PM)
Joe: Voudan too? It figures. I feel sorry for them really. They are lost. Out of harmony. I don't blame them for seeking something. I was more open than many. Better Native American ways of respect than....darker persuits.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:51:08 PM)
Joe: Damned Wendigo never understood that. Thought the whites were mocking our ways. Fuck they were just lost kids. It was an opportunity to reach out and maybe show them a better way. Instead they got all insulted. Still got a pack of Wendigo that would rather see the back of me.

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:52:10 PM)
"All the same, I have to say I'm glad there aren't that many wendigo here, I think Eyes has n o idea what to do with us half the time

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:55:06 PM)
Sarah: Eyes like the Sky? She needs to get out from under the rock shes hiding under before she blows it with her own pack. The other tribes don't do things like the Wendigo and they aren't going to change just to please her.

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:55:40 PM)
Joe: Was that the young woman argueing with the Fenrir at the party?

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:55:49 PM)
"that would be here

Megan Hunt (Dec 10, 2010 11:55:52 PM)
(her)

Sarah Swiftfox (Dec 10, 2010 11:56:28 PM)
Joe: Good gumbo by the way.