Bastian Schmitz (Mar 29, 2011 11:58:43 PM)
Grey of Twilight ~rhya. What happened exactly in the incident that the Fenrir believe was an honorable challenge for Elder of the Sept. Can you begin with what Gift you used to teach them a lesson?

Grandpa Grey (Mar 29, 2011 11:59:04 PM)
I'll begin with the why.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:00:29 AM)
After the death of there brothers, they became disrespectful. We tried to make some allowances. Rage and grief aint easy to deal with. After one of them cowed the Master of the Challenge when he tried to interviene on one of many challenges they instigated...I felt I had to personally step in.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:00:51 AM)
Challenges in question were mostly Gnawers wanting a go at the Fenrir or insults and vice versa.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:02:02 AM)
Now, I told them they need to obey our Wyrmfoe. That unless they did so then they'd be no further help to us. I said they either cut the crap or they were to leave.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:02:37 AM)
*he frowns* It was then unfortunately I had another fit.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:02:38 AM)
*He nods to that... it sounds reasonable since they were hunting a Hive.*

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:03:47 AM)
I get em. Cursed birth. Only mine come with visions. Real ones. Usually of the future or possible futures. My tribe pays attention to such things. As a claith I became noted for it. Soon respected when they came true. Later almost revered. In case your wondering how the hell a mule becomes an elder.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:03:56 AM)
Grand Elder to boot.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:05:06 AM)
I was surprised but, I am sure there was a reason.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:05:06 AM)
Had one THEN of all times. What I saw by the way, is was our hillfolk swarming down. Also saw the Spirals attacking the sept. Was a mess. Can't see a clear outcome. Visions aint always helpful.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:06:41 AM)
*He nods and thinks on this.* How long have the Hillfolk been gone?

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:07:15 AM)
So I recover, course I'm drooling on the floor. Great impression. My folk try to explain, but that Skullspitter fella gets uppity. Asks my folk how they can let me lead. I stands up and remind the Fenrir I'm still Elder here. He calls me what was it? Oh just think of every mule slur you ever heard with interest.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:07:29 AM)
Humm...couple weeks.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:07:49 AM)
Contact with them though...as recently as yesterday.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:08:04 AM)
Through totem links and the like.

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:08:08 AM)
*grins* I got an idea

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:08:24 AM)
Anywho....well I wanted to teach that whelp a lesson.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:10:17 AM)
Hes no Athro I need to acknowledge by challenge. Hes an Adren, which makes him a midlevel pup that I got every reason to discipline if I need too. Especually an uppity visitor. He was pointing his finger at me....so I cursed him. *crosses his arms* He got to watch his strong pretty arm, weaken, twist in on itself, become paralyzed and as weak as the cursed born he was slurring. His pack ......there I miscalculated. They freaked out and jumped me. My boys tried to back me up but them Fenrir are strong. Broke alot of my bones before my boys got them off me.

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:10:52 AM)
*blinks* holy shit

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:10:56 AM)
Clawed me good too.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:11:34 AM)
And I'm 95.....I still regenerate but it's slower. Alot slower. Faster than human but not like usual.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:11:44 AM)
Time is getting to me but god damn it NOT YET.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:12:08 AM)
*He nods.* ( I assume everything is true?)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:12:36 AM)
My Warder got me out of there before they really lost it. Damn fucking *snarls* ....to be carried from my own sept.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:12:40 AM)
((oooooh yeah))

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:14:43 AM)
This was days ago....alot of my people are still somewhat shocked over it. And messages have been relayed to the hills. But we are getting organized to deal with this one way, or the other.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:14:48 AM)
Well, clearly you are an Elder and he had no right to challenge you even if he conciders your punishment a challenge. Did the Master of Challenge... their Master of Challenge who they say won the position through staredown... Did he participate in fighting you?

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:14:54 AM)
So....you think I'm a drooling idiot?

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:15:23 AM)
I can't rightly say....I was fending off the rest of them.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:16:37 AM)
GIT, I wouldn't call that a challenge. I'd call it a near frenzied pack overstepping shit because they couldn't handle there Alpha being disciplined like a puppy. And for the record, on Garou my gift is temporary.....unless I choose it to be perminant. I think I should have chosen that.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:17:12 AM)
*Tiny keeps peeking in*

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:17:42 AM)
(oh, I thought we wer in the room too...oops)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:17:49 AM)
((door is open you can hear))

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:17:56 AM)
That is your right as an elder to punish as you see fit. Can anyone identify if their Forseti involved himself in what they are calling a challenge?

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:18:49 AM)
Truckstop speaks: Humph to be fair I think he did help peal the rest of the pack off our elder. But thats all he did. And like Grey said that wasn't no challenge.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:20:58 AM)
I don't believe it was. Now, I have to figure out a way to beat some sense in a Modi.... like usual. *Sighs.* This is my calling in life. Every Modi I meet other than my Alpha I have to physically beat sense into them so they can function.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:21:12 AM)
I got questions for you.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:21:25 AM)
Absolutely.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:21:27 AM)
Why should I tolerate these idiots here after what they have done?

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:22:01 AM)
*knocks on the door* can I say something to that?

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:22:20 AM)
*Goes to answer then looks at Jimi.*

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:22:25 AM)
Only reason they've had a few days breathing space is because I want the hillfolk ready before I go back and clean them out.

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:23:15 AM)
*looks at Bastian* ~pl~ i think they could use those Fenrir to buttfuck those spirals

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:23:47 AM)
~pl~ I do too... IF the Fenrir are willing to play ball.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:23:49 AM)
*looks at Jimi* Sure runt...speak.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:24:11 AM)
Well I'd call you Tiny but that would confuse Tiny.

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:24:43 AM)
I just thought of your vision and it reminded me of a movie I saw. with the bad guys attacking and a bunch of folks come running in and smashing the shit out of them

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:26:31 AM)
I think those GIT are salvable maybe.....if they'd ditch that Alpha of theres. With contrition we could stomach em. But...you have met there Alpha right?

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:27:34 AM)
*He nods.* Well, I have an idea. I might be able to even get their Alpha to go along with it.

Safina Karlson (Mar 30, 2011 12:27:52 AM)
(sorry guys, I need to pass out)

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:28:05 AM)
(sok Safina *hugs*)

Safina Karlson (Mar 30, 2011 12:28:09 AM)
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Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:29:38 AM)
What idea?

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:29:54 AM)
I think what is best for all parties is the destruction of the Spirals in the area. Do you agree?

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:30:02 AM)
Yes.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:30:19 AM)
*his third eye stares right AT you...it's creepy*

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:33:33 AM)
Well, use the Spiral's plan for your own. Let it out that the Caern is only being held by a small pack of Fenrir and a few Gnawers. That the fued between you has boiled over and the Gnawers have abandoned them. The Spirals will surely attack en mass. You prepare your Hillfolk to Charge the Rear when they over commit to defeating the Fenrir. This will help prove to the Fenrir that they were wrong in your bravery. It will give them a chance to protect the Caern as they say they want to. And with the major Spiral threat gone. They can move on to bigger and 'more' dangerous fights.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:34:57 AM)
Dangerous as hell. I do not want to use the cearn as some damned chess piece.

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:35:48 AM)
make it so the spirals couldnt get in if they had to. You got moonshine. make a burning moat out of that shit that nothing could pass

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:36:24 AM)
Truckstop: Geez....what a blessed shame.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:36:44 AM)
Humm maybe with the right spirit backup.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:37:13 AM)
Your tribe is full of sneaky bastards and you are an Elder Theurge. I am sure you have some spirits that owe you a favor or two that could hide your force. Fog comes to mind to me but, you are probably much more knowledgable than I. There will be no real risk. Only a rouse.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:39:09 AM)
One flaw with your plan. Those Fenrir wouldn't listen long enough to be useful. That leader of theres is a dumbass. And I hear from John that there "EXCUSE" for what happened with me is that they are disposing me to keep a cearn from being violated. If our come back idea is to actually draw the enemy to the cearn...well. Your just giving fuel to there delusions.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:41:28 AM)
If you guys really leave, as they think you are. That Caern is as good as overrun already. He is fooling himself to think otherwise.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:43:38 AM)
Well, I can beat the stupid out of him. That is an option. Or I could talk to their Beta. I could get him to challenge his Alpha for leadership. His Alpha has obviously failed his pack and lead them into a dishonorable position.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:47:03 AM)
Well son there your tribe. My options as I see them, ONE take the Hillfolk like I was gunna, return to MY cearn and clean the lot of those GIT out. Which will probably mean kill'n em. Two, could maybe sniper there Alpha with a nice silver bullet to the brain. Or three...I'll give you a CHANCE to see if you can reach those boys. Because the compromise idea has merit if they can be brought into line.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:47:58 AM)
My option two would spare the rest of the pack if they didn't get uppity. Aint the most honorable but tis an idea thats looking better and better to me.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:49:47 AM)
*Banjo plays outside the intro to the dueling Banjo song*

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:49:56 AM)
*He nods.* I will see what I can manage. I still think there is a union here that can be made. They need you as much as you could really use them.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:53:05 AM)
Grey: I'll give you a couple of days....*bango mutters something along the lines of* --yeah it'll take that much time to melt down granny's silverware for bullets-- Grey con: I'll give you a couple of days to do what you can. But I can't wait to long. Spirals still lurking and this situation needs to be delt with quick.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:54:09 AM)
*the old man rubs his leg, mostly hes healed, just looks horrid due to fresh scarring*

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:54:59 AM)
*Nods.* I'll do what I can. We Fenrir are a bit hard headed when we get a notion in our mind. I guess that's a good thing if it is the right notion though.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:56:36 AM)
Personally I think of yerr tribe like boxers. One two many hits in the head. You? You still got some brains left. Try not to get to many concussions OK?

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:57:08 AM)
*laughs*

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:57:34 AM)
*He smiles.* I'm more of an MMA guy...

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:57:38 AM)
*Tiny looks at Jimi confused, you get the feeling the big guy gets confused alot*

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 12:58:07 AM)
I hit now? *Tiny asks* Truckstop: No Tiny it's OK.

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 12:58:47 AM)
*pats Tiny on the arm* its all good little feller

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 12:59:17 AM)
Thank you for your time Grandfather Gray ~rhya. I hope to return your Sept to you without bloodshed.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:02:10 AM)
I'm being nice only because I'm still waiting on a pack or two. *Bango grins again and says* --And newly made silver bullets-- And you made some solid points, talk your tribemates into line or we'll bring them into line. Our way isn't gunna be pretty. That'll be all.

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:03:10 AM)
*He nods to both.* I best get my ass back up there then. Time to manipulate a few things.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:06:00 AM)
You do that.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:06:08 AM)
*it sounds like a dismissel*

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:06:24 AM)
*waits for Bastian* nice meeting you Tiny

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:06:55 AM)
*He heads out and nods to Tiny.* After this all done big guy... You and me need to spar.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:06:55 AM)
*Tiny grins* I not have to hit you.

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:08:09 AM)
((This may be a good stopping point...I'm thinking maybe one more session to this, involving talk to the beta, and end game....whatever that may be. Care to schedule now?))

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:08:59 AM)
( sure!)

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:09:29 AM)
( I have a thing Friday night with the kids and Sunday Night TT... Other than that I am open after 10 PM most nights... )

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:09:58 AM)
(whenever for me)

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:10:04 AM)
(at that time)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:13:09 AM)
How about...Monday?

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:13:32 AM)
( Monday good)

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:13:43 AM)
( 10 PM Eastern? )

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:13:49 AM)
((Monday at 9:30PM est? Or is 10 better?))

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:14:32 AM)
(works for me. just make sure to remind me before that Bastian)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:14:58 AM)
((Fine 10pm...gives me more time to prepare))

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:15:16 AM)
(thanks WS, you rock)

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:15:42 AM)
( will do! Thank you WS. You rock. This is a great challenge for Bastian, I love it. )

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:15:45 AM)
((Well....I think this is the most complicated instance of garou politics I ever made up))

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:04 AM)
( I like it...and I hate politics)

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:12 AM)
( It is everything that he stands for and more all rolled into one SL. )

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:18 AM)
((You like it because it has Gnawers in it...))

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:27 AM)
((Redneck Gnawers))

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:32 AM)
((Tons of them))

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:36 AM)
(well yeah...but besides that I still like it)

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:39 AM)
( My Gnawer would like it too!)

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:16:46 AM)
(actually irl, im not a redneck fan)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:18:12 AM)
((IRL....I just keep playing banjo music while I run this))

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:18:29 AM)
(I would so go insane)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:18:41 AM)
((I did and made up Red Creek sept))

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:19:21 AM)
( mmmm Banjo... I like Up on the Ridge by Deirk Bently... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9v_KgxOcu8 )

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:19:57 AM)
(ok guys. time to do some work stuffs. thanks for the sceneage, it was wunderbar)

Grandpa Grey (Mar 30, 2011 1:20:02 AM)
((OK goodnight....I am tires))

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:20:06 AM)
( night!)

Bastian Schmitz (Mar 30, 2011 1:20:11 AM)
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Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:20:15 AM)
(sleep well)

Jimi Little (Mar 30, 2011 1:20:29 AM)
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