Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:10:19 PM)
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Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:10:27 PM)
Made it ^.^
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:10:31 PM)
yay
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:10:35 PM)
So whats up
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:12:09 PM)
The kinfolk you are playing has come across my desk and I would like to work with you on some how fixing the situation.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:12:30 PM)
Fixing the situation you make it sound like there is an issue?
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:15:55 PM)
Well I was told your kinfolk is currently living with a female mage whom is her "lover". I got a message dealing with a cross venue mess that I would like to nipp in the bud before this spirals out of comtrol such as a member of your chrs tribe taking you out of said situation or having threatened to kill you and the mage. The mage st does not want garou hunting his mage pcs and nor do i want any negative cross venue madness. Also your character has gnosis of 2 which means she is observed by the spirits, did you understand that when you where given gnosis?
scarybunnie (Jun 27, 2011 6:15:55 PM)
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Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:18:03 PM)
Yes but there is something you ned to realise. 1. both IC and ooc no information has spread between the two and is being deliberatly kept seperate. I would like to know who the member of my tribe taking me is cause at this point the werewolf game is so clickish that even being ic for 2 hours in a room of them and even directly trying to talk to them I get ignored a lot of the time. I came back after being scene locked for 8 months due to staff banning my mate and never telling me a word on what to do with it until scarybunny finally gave me closure. I played with people who would play with me and on top of that NOT a single person other than a kin knows who I am with ICly.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:18:14 PM)
I dont mind dealing with IC so long as its IC
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:18:23 PM)
Sam and I both knew what the chances were when it was going on.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:21:12 PM)
As far as the gnosis goes after being sanctioned I worked for a few months tryign to do something but then the scene locked happened everyone quit when the ST did nothign and left us scene locked so ther eis no proof and as I found out later I was told too many kin now have it and that learning much of what I originally planned probably wont take place as they being the mage team has decided that they have enough kin with numias.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:24:22 PM)
We no longer allow kin with numina. 2. issue your mate was banned and did you send messages over the 8 months asking for some sort of closure? I never recived a single message reguarding it and I been on the st team since november. Never once did I hear anything about your pc wanting closure and Scary bunnie was on the st staff even longer then myself and she dealt strickly with kinfolk did you ever contact her with a fpm on this matter?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:25:31 PM)
I stopped FPMing after ghostlin when I asked about the situation had told me to stop talking about it and didn't get an answer out of him. His words were stop whining about it so at that time I decided to waint until someone actually took interest to come back. Coming back wouldn't have been much if I came back still ont he whims of having been told that simply asking what happened I would be whining about it.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:26:02 PM)
I wasn't told for even a month after the banning that it had even happened.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:26:12 PM)
In the same FPM sent asking what was up
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:28:25 PM)
I am sorry for you having to go through that. Let's see how we can some how salvage this cause as it stands you have a very special kinfolk.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:28:41 PM)
Yes I realise that.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:28:50 PM)
Everything I have done thus far has been IC
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:29:54 PM)
But even if the garou are not paying attension to you, the spirits themselves would be they do notice kinfolk whom have gnosis they curiously watch them from the other side because kinfolk with gnosis are exceedingly rare. Your character has 2 gnosis i currently have garou pcs in my venue that are homid born and only have 1 gnosis.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:30:54 PM)
Yes I realise that and at the same time I'll play where I can play rather than a standoffish group that despite looking dead at them and having thier attention and speaking to them I still get ignored for more than 2 hours.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:31:57 PM)
I still play with some garou and kin. I do go to the sept and continue to play with those that will but honestly at this point the people that do play with me are on exceedingly rarely and honestly there are few gnawers even on regularly. Most of the time they are in locked rooms shacked up or in area's or scenes that kin are not allowed.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:32:34 PM)
Unless its prefered that I just sit in an empty room all the time.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:37:30 PM)
Here is the issue it is going to lead to a cross over nightmare that neither me or the mage st is looking foward to. The mage st is the one who came to scary bunny about this issue in the first place. The fact you have gone to the sept is more of eye opener to the spirits the fact you hang with the mage and go to the sept is linking the two things and we want to nip it in the bud before it happens. There are wta players whom log in whom rp and whom are avilable. I am not asking you to sit in a empty room I am asking that you cut your pcs living with her lesbian mage lover to stop the eventual cross over land slide madness. Im not saying you can not play in open random rooms to have fun. I am pleased to know that neither you nor the mage knows what each other is. But there is the spirits the gnosis. Would you like to have it removed so that the spirits are incapable of watching you? Would you rather stop being a gnawer kin all together and just become a consort or something?
scarybunnie (Jun 27, 2011 6:38:39 PM)
Sorry I am not too present at the moment I am working on dinner for hubby as he demands such. Men…But anyway what I think this situation is not an issue with lite RP or anything with others. That fine. But when you have a close relationship with what Sprits and garou see as a cearn raper…there are going to be some issues, for you IC. This is not something to yell at you ooc by any means…its kinda a warning of what could happen IC incase it was not something you were aware of or some way we can fix the issue so no there is no PC loss.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:39:24 PM)
*nods to what bunny said* in no way is this some sort of reprimand
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:39:32 PM)
I am trying to find a solution
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:39:32 PM)
Oh I know
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:39:35 PM)
dont worry
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:40:05 PM)
and I know that there are IC repercussions but honestly the character has no clue. Dalia is a gypsy so family is family you dont tell others about family that is why Sam will never learn about dalia's family or lineage.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:40:19 PM)
and Sam wont tell dalia about her 'job' so its one of thse you dont ask we dont tell things
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:41:03 PM)
even on an ooc leve but unless something is done IC to cause it to split then I dont see it happening. I'm a fan for keeping it IC and just so you know there are other mages who know about werewolves out there and other kin have been around the mages playing side by side long before I even came back.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:41:12 PM)
Hell Sam introducsed me to annelaise
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:41:32 PM)
I mean new york state allows gay marriage now, we could do a name change of your chrs last name change the icon to a consort and let you play in the mage game with the what cha macallit kinfolk merit but you would loose the gnosis. If I could speak to the mage st about it.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:41:53 PM)
okay so you want to stay a kinfolk
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:00 PM)
?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:04 PM)
I dont mind changes but I want changes IC
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:15 PM)
well yes it would have to be changes ic
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:20 PM)
and it could be run b y scenes
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:22 PM)
however
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:27 PM)
Also when I talked to the Mage ST's they want no more kin mages apparently they have some
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:37 PM)
i want to know what it is you would like to see with your own character development
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:42:53 PM)
I know of only one kin mage
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:43:01 PM)
I'm just saying what I was told
scarybunnie (Jun 27, 2011 6:43:14 PM)
Its not a mage that I know of..its a sorccorer...lineare magic
scarybunnie (Jun 27, 2011 6:43:18 PM)
little diffrent.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:43:31 PM)
Ah the thing is though is I have a sorcerer already
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:43:38 PM)
And I would speak to the mage st, your icon would not be kinfolk it would be a consort's
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:43:57 PM)
but okay so you allready play in the mage venue here
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:44:15 PM)
Yes my old mage is being deleted cause I dont play her and I have a sorcerer
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:46:06 PM)
As far as it goes at this point Its probably better to step away from the werewolf game and go where I have more friends to play with instead of fighting to get into the groups that have formed.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:46:10 PM)
So you want to deal with this issue ic
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:46:18 PM)
Of course thats is why I play
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:46:25 PM)
IC with IC.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:47:09 PM)
Also if your worried about cross venue play you might want to make a public post that no longer are any wolf types allowed to play with mage types cause it's happening.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:48:09 PM)
okay issue being that character death could be coming your way, and the mages will be free of consequences which is what the mage st has allready asked for thus there will be no mages storming the sept over this nor will there be garou hunting mages the cross over madness will not be allowed on such a level.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:49:05 PM)
So despite two characters having activly agreed with consequences your saying that i'll be the only one allowed killed.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:49:12 PM)
i can speak to the mage st and see about the consort thing if you wanted but it would be a change of icon
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:49:53 PM)
I'm debating on it after the things the mage ST has done at this point in all honesty and seriously there has been no cross venue other than who is dating. The mage st shoudl have had this worry when mages have kin friends as well long before me.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:50:30 PM)
AND when the mage ST was asked about the situation they were fine with it hence RP continued.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:50:38 PM)
its funny that now there is a sudden issue
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:51:54 PM)
So its a bit of a mess on if I should bother to trust the ST after having cleared it before hand.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:52:10 PM)
This is not a issue with a mage being a friend with a kinfolk this is a issue with a kinfolk with "gnosis" being around a mage.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:53:05 PM)
I was never contacted about it, and your pc is in my venue, in fact i knew nothing of it until i got the message from the kinfolk st. *Thumbs at bunny* who had been contacted by the mage st.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:53:40 PM)
I check my fpms every single day and answer them in a very timely fashion anyone who has sent me a fpm can verify that.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:53:52 PM)
Thats simply because no breaches have happened and I was simply playing to have fun not for XP or purchases. The mage ST knew cause of the mage I normally only go about things when I do blue books.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:54:03 PM)
Which is most of the entrie wta venue as i revcive messages ever day
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:54:35 PM)
I haven't had an issue with communications but then again I dont contact ST unless I have a problem due to past experiences on this site.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:57:45 PM)
I guess we'll have to talk to the Mage ST that had the issue of simply moving over to consor.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:57:46 PM)
the last bluebook in your thread was dated july 03 of 2010 it is now june 27th "2011"
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:58:02 PM)
Yea that was shortly before the scene freeze cause I didn't have a report.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:58:10 PM)
cause I was frozen and I told bunny that.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:58:38 PM)
As of yet I dont blue book unless its for xp purposes. It keeps it clean.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:59:18 PM)
I started off regular as you saw BUT was chastized for it.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 6:59:18 PM)
You need to give us a chance we are a different team we do answer our fpms we do keep records things and we are rather organized on the paper work end.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 6:59:56 PM)
I have only been back for a short period. So I am learning to trust the staff. You guys thus far have been great about all of it. I simply just chose to go play with people that would play with me rather than creating forced RP.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:00:01 PM)
We would like to work with you on this, we can zap your gnosis to 0 and it would solve likely all these problems
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:00:07 PM)
we can do that ic
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:00:13 PM)
in a scene
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:00:45 PM)
or we can do some personal story archs to get you more intergrated into the wta venue
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:00:53 PM)
Because im all about offering role play as well
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:00:53 PM)
Now the real question is i'm loosing a 6 point merit and my history is a kin will I be allowed to go mage in the future.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:01:42 PM)
I can work on making that happen raven and id be willing to let you spend those 6 "Freebees" on your sheet as well into a area that might better help you play a consort
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:02:19 PM)
like i said i AM willing to go to bat for you and when this talk ends i want you to walk away with the feeling that i am trying to help not trying to be a pain in your back side.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:02:28 PM)
I know no worries.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:02:40 PM)
I knew this chat was coming in the future and my goal is IC not OOC.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:02:41 PM)
^.^
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:03:33 PM)
Now the question is the fact her history is that of kin. What happens if we switch to mage I was flatly told they have enough kin in thier venue.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:03:59 PM)
We would have to do it in a ic manner that is what you said yes?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:04:28 PM)
Yes but on an ooc level I have to make sure that the venue is willing. I dont want anamocity over it.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:04:41 PM)
I dont want to step into a venue that doesn't want me.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:04:50 PM)
Its not fun for players or ST's and that is when neglect happens.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:04:52 PM)
There are accidents that can happen and since your mage friend does not know of your garou link there are ways your chr can forget her past both spiritualy and with a flaw like amensia
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:05:56 PM)
Yes but there are wolves that know me and my auto shop that I own that come.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:06:11 PM)
There are just a lot of threads to clean up.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:06:38 PM)
and I want to make sure I can grow my character as I would like to in the mage venue instead of being the shove in they dont want and say no to everything as obviously they dont want any mixing.
scarybunnie (Jun 27, 2011 7:06:42 PM)
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Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:06:51 PM)
If you see my trepedations about it.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:08:10 PM)
*nods* I could speak to the mage st's your background would likely be part of the kinfolk merit in the wta book, problem i see most is that you said the garou pay you no mind, why would they all of a sudden start going to your auto shop and such if they never hang out with you
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:08:31 PM)
there is only 1 Round 13 and LAL
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:08:39 PM)
Meghan hunt is another.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:08:44 PM)
But those are almost never on.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:08:49 PM)
I see them once every other week at most.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:09:03 PM)
meg i have only been IC 1 time with since return.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:09:19 PM)
as like I said most of the time everyone is in private rooms or non areas.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:09:37 PM)
so long as the shop is taken out of the equation we should be good with a name change.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:12:30 PM)
I just want to make sure the mage ST is fully on board though. I dont want to be treated underfoot cause they blame me fore this entire situation and have let thier mage slide by on it to the point that all responsiblity for this rests on me on an ooc level.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:12:43 PM)
liberty allmost lost is awesome but i don't see any of them on often.. We could make the shop out of the equasion in fact you could get hurt at the shop and the shop and your memory be destroyed all in one swipe since your "lover" is the one you play with most she would likely be the one to come to your aid and you would have no memory of the others or the sept and you can work on falling in love with her all over again.. it might actuly be something that could be really cool ic development into the consort game as it might inspire the mage to work on trying to teach you so that she does not loose you to such a accident in the future i can weave in the loss of the gnosis and your background would have serious changes when you enetered the mage game such as
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:13:55 PM)
Alright we have a plan then but we just have to clear things with the mage ST. They are my only worry as stated above.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:14:00 PM)
"Since the accident i remember nothing of my past, she says we where lovers and i know it must be true as i look at the things here in the house we have both shared.. Some of these are mine, but I remember little of them..She is kind and careing.. ect. ect.*
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:14:30 PM)
I have done amnesia before it ended up being funny
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:14:35 PM)
See!
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:14:59 PM)
I'm not mad i'm just not wanting to move into a situation where the ST will shaft me...so to speak..as I have had it done already and this will open the special kin spot for someone else to have.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:15:30 PM)
May I know which ST is was?
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:17:15 PM)
Im going to speak to the mage team and work on the st end of it, until then continue to play and not share any venue info between the two. I will see what I casn do, and I will let them know that you do not want to be a exception and that you do not want to feel like this is being forced on them. I will let them know this is something we spoke of together and see what I can do to make this as enjoyable for you as st possidble!
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:18:59 PM)
If you would like to play in the wta venue on another skin or make a chr to replace this one, I would greatly appreciate it. You have been a pleasure to speak to on this matter, and I could not be more pleased with how mature you handled this situaion.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:19:29 PM)
*nods*Thats fine with me and i'm more than happy opening up a spot for someone else to enjoy a special kin character no matter what happens as i'm not really doing anything with it and you probably have more players that would want it and I have had it long enough. LOL I own my own chat so I come here to play cause I dont play on my own chat so my goal is to just do everything IC
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:20:29 PM)
*nods* Very cool, as far as gnosis kinfolk I do not know of any others whom have it, and its not allowed after creation as it is something your born with.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:20:40 PM)
If I play wolf again I'll wait for the number of kin and wolves to balance out there is an issue where kin out number wolves any time regular players are on.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:21:09 PM)
Well i'm saying for anyone wanting to come in with it. I know spots are limited and someone out there will get more use from it than I did in almost 2 years of having it
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:21:25 PM)
and this consort thing will give me an excuse to spend allt he stock piled XP i have.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:24:07 PM)
brb
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:25:38 PM)
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Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:25:49 PM)
Hi mingus.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:26:11 PM)
Hi raven.. who do you play?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:26:16 PM)
Dalia Tolviani.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:26:23 PM)
ahh okay.. your Dalia..
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:26:29 PM)
Yes..I am.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:26:44 PM)
okay.. and soon as Gabby is in and talking.. this can get cleared up
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:27:40 PM)
The main issue I have as this issue was brought up on an ooc level of who will kill who and a chioce has to be made I am trepedacious about trusting the mage staff as at this point this choice comes from them.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:28:43 PM)
*blinks* hold on .. what?
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:29:14 PM)
Can I get the lead up as to WHY there is a need of the kill, Reasons its going to happen and why its being put in my lap?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:29:26 PM)
There are three options. 1. I stop playing with Sam completely 2. I will end up killed for having a mage as a lover despite no veils or breaches or even knowing IC she is a mage or 3. I switch venues loosing all kin stuff.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:05 PM)
bak
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:09 PM)
That is the only courses that the current play can take. SO because Sam is on regularly and I intend to play where I have fun the option has been made to switch.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:10 PM)
and now my post
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:28 PM)
1. Sam is not a normal kinfolk she has gnosis
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:48 PM)
Dalia ^
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:49 PM)
^.^
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:30:58 PM)
Sam's a VA.. please don't scare me like that
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:32:01 PM)
Also because there is fear of mages versus wolves and vice versa this is how it started because the mage staff were afraid of wolves getting invovled in thier venue.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:33:01 PM)
2. When i was told about the situation it was under the guise that people where going to target her chr for some reason or another and then was told about her gnosis of 2 and that she goes to the sept and added in that the mage st said something about not wanting his mage pcs attacked by garou so i asked the player in to find a way that we could possidbly make this as enjoyable for her as possidble. The kin pc in question has admitted to not playing in over 8 months due to prior issues with prior staff and some loose ends having never been tied up by them. She has said when she asked for closure they told her not to whine and to drop the su
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:33:15 PM)
subject
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:34:08 PM)
Okay..
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:34:52 PM)
There are a few issues though with teh solution. 1. I have a sorcerer already 2. Will I be trated fairly by switching and will I be allowed to grow my character fairly as any consort.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:35:42 PM)
So I was trying to figure out a way the player would be happy playing the character she says she is not enjoying the wta game, says that the players are to cliquish and she enjoys the mage game and playing with her friends in the mage venue but she made it perfectly clear she did not want to be a exception to any rules in your venue or to make you feel as if she was pushing you to allow something you do not allow in your venue
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:36:49 PM)
Especially as I was told that there was already kin involved int eh mage venue and no more would be allowed to pass through.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:37:36 PM)
..
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:37:50 PM)
*eats the dots*
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:39:20 PM)
Raven. At the current point, anything attempting to be sanctioned with the kinfolk merit has to get approval from gabby girl.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:40:24 PM)
I dont think at this point it would even be a merit its just representation of a past she wont remember ^.^
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:40:27 PM)
Gothicmingus
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:40:40 PM)
this is what i wanted to purpose
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:40:46 PM)
I was clearing that "no kinfolk allowed thing"
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:44:19 PM)
Her shop ic will have a accident she will be injured in the accident her chr will suffer from amnesa no memory of the septs location no memory of ever being a kinfolk and through the story line she will loose the gnosis as well, the merit for gnosis she will be able to add to the sheet changes she will have no memory of even having been a kinfolk, thus changing her background to more .. "I remember nothing from before the accent, she tells me we are lovers and looking around the home i can see things of my own but no memory of owning them(she being the mage whom the player lives with and is a lover of)
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:45:26 PM)
I take it at this point, there would re-embursement for the Dots on teh sheet that will be lost?
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:45:32 PM)
giving the mage player the scare of having allmost lost her lover and possidbley she takes her as a consort so she can teach her how to defend herself from such things in the future ect. ect. it would remove the gnosis and the garou stuff from the background
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:45:43 PM)
yes i would like that as well
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:46:04 PM)
i would not want to rob the pc of the points she spent in those merits
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:47:15 PM)
Alright, here is the issue and its one that I know raven just brought up a bit. In the Mage venue we have rule of 1 mage and 1 consor/linear. Since Raven has one already, it would break that rule and I wouldn't want to think that the rules on that which I've explained and stood behind to be cracked really easily.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:48:27 PM)
Also I want to note at this point to be fair that Mingus said he wasn't the one that FPM'd about what was going on. Yet I was told it was the mage ST that FPM'd you with the situation. I would like to know if it was a player or an actual member of staff. Simply because I run a site and at times players that feel slighted DO follow to make trouble for me.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:50:20 PM)
Has there to this point been any cross venue that breaks across the rules of the WTA rules on no crossvenue?
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:51:20 PM)
let me answer these questionsa one at a time
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:52:15 PM)
I don't speak very good mage speak. Raven had told me she was "deleting her mage" but that she played a sorrcerror, is the sorrcerror considered linear?
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:52:40 PM)
yes.. Linears are Pyshics and Sorcerers.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:52:59 PM)
My mage is on the deletion list I have not taken her off it and I dont intend to.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:54:31 PM)
Raven Mingus had a talk with the kinfolk HST about some concearns. It was not a player trying to cause you any grief and if a player trys to cause you some sort of ooc grief, PLEASE bring that concearn issue to me with screen shots and I will get on it, cause I do not tolerate player harassment on any sort of ooc level.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:55:09 PM)
Okay so she is only allowed 1 or the other not 1 of both?
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:55:40 PM)
by the rules.. If the Venue could justify it.. I'd need at least another 3 mages who were regular, i'd alter it
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 7:56:10 PM)
To allowing to of the same but the stricit, if a possible conflict of interest happens, your limited to one PC in the mage venue and the other is gone
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:57:11 PM)
Okay here is my next idea then
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:57:51 PM)
and totaly feel free to slap it down as im just throwing out ideas to come to a desision we all leave HAPPY with thus if you don't like the idea by all means speak up
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 7:58:44 PM)
The last solution is to simply delete and make it easier for both venues.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 7:58:57 PM)
Since her mage is deleted the accident could be a Awakening then she would have 1 mage/1Linar? as that is allowed? She would still loose all the other stuff but has plenty of stashed xp to actuly do a ic awkening as well.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:00:03 PM)
If awakening into a mage is alright with her, I can see reason. It would play to the removal of gnosis.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:00:29 PM)
I'm not strong at mage hence why I'm having Kohana deleted.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:00:37 PM)
fair. alright..
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:00:40 PM)
It would give her a mage in the venue where she says she enjoys playing with her friends as long as she does no coi issues with her sorrcerror she should be golden? She would have the amensia just the same could give her some of that spooky thing where people just over look her so the garou wouldnt really remember her on any level think its a background starting with "a"
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:00:41 PM)
The game makes my hed spin and I never figured out how to work magic.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:01:07 PM)
Arete.. Few figures of the guideslines on a sphere and your imaginaton. Literaly, thats about it
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:01:09 PM)
on a mage level i'm stronger at sorcerer its got defined rolls instead of I think I need to do this and be an accident.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:01:47 PM)
Fine, How about this. If it will please both. Let me re-check the numbers on the venue.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:01:50 PM)
Paradigm writing for mages I suck at and honestly I never have had a good eperience online playing a full mage. Kohana is another that was int he middle of a scene that never finished and that was her awakening hence the deletion
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:02:16 PM)
IF the numbers support, I can alter the rule adn the 2 consor/linear rule can go into place.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:02:41 PM)
And honestly Amelia was made to play with someone. She probably wont be out active in the venue much if at all.
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:02:44 PM)
akak meaning.. no two mages.. but 1 and 1 of both since there are people who like the sorcerer/pyshics more
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:03:13 PM)
I never play true online either I play kin only. Most sites let you have one of each but in cases you can forefeit the true slot to play a kin.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:03:27 PM)
here we allow
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:03:37 PM)
2 true and one kin OR 2 kin and one true
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:03:57 PM)
for the kin who like to play kinfolk they can play more then one and vice versa
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:04:06 PM)
Alright, Raven, If you'll swear on this between me and Gabby, that your okay with the venue shift. That you'll keep your head down with your other linear till the rule gets changed?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:04:31 PM)
I only have Amelia on if I'm asked for. I have not once taken her into a room other than her home.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:04:38 PM)
And i'm not asked for that much *smiles*
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:05:04 PM)
We can do a re-imburust of the XP on the sheet. I would like to ask that if anything it be noted what is being re-imbursed as it might effect start path or pyhsichs or backgrounds or such
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:05:26 PM)
re imburs?
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:05:45 PM)
you know.. Give you XP back for the removal off your sheet
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:06:11 PM)
Ah so...what am I suppose to do rewrite but use the same stats I have now?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:06:20 PM)
or do we just change the venues and have someone change her name?
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:06:34 PM)
IF you'd like to keep things off your back.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:06:44 PM)
well I will work on the story part of it, and i would like mingus to be a part of that with me
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:06:56 PM)
as for the stuff on the sheet
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:07:01 PM)
Well the reason I have spent almost no XP is I built her sheet the way I liked it >.> I have that problem I make them so good to start I never change
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:07:04 PM)
Screen shot your sheet and make a new name and such for the PC. If that is prefered so theres no Hasseling by PCs over it
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:07:10 PM)
it will be changed at the time of the scene bye bye gnosis and some other things
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:07:21 PM)
I got a screen already
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:07:51 PM)
Gabby, I think for the ease of things, letting it be a new login and such would go easily well so that no one is really able to come back and go, "weren't you a kin, wtf?" at her.. wouldn't you agree?
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:08:05 PM)
yes i agree!
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:08:09 PM)
totaly agree!
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:08:24 PM)
So someone will change the name on the sheet for me I wont have to reneter?
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:08:41 PM)
Let us double check with an admin on that?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:08:53 PM)
Not sure how they do the database here for transfer
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:09:05 PM)
um.. here.. they change a setting..
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:09:16 PM)
its how Sam went from the mortal to teh mage venue
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:09:25 PM)
we have to be careful
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:09:34 PM)
when Kohana was switch from mortal to mage she lost stuff
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:09:38 PM)
cause the sheets were different
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:09:48 PM)
I'll send you the screens of Dalia from just a few moments ago Mingus
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:10:09 PM)
yes, alright. I hate to break on this, but i have to talk to two other mage players on something. and hten i'm going ot go lay back down as I'm running a fever still
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:10:22 PM)
thank you mingus!
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:10:35 PM)
It was a pleasure working with you on this matter!
gothicmingus (Jun 27, 2011 8:10:45 PM)
No problems.
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Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:11:38 PM)
Raven I will work with mingus continue to play and like mingus said please keep this to yourself till he has time at least to make changes in the forums concearning the rules of how many linear/consorts are allowed
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:12:02 PM)
Well he wont have to worry about that.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:12:15 PM)
i will also be sending you a fpm when he tells me he is ready and i will work on running that scene for you ic!
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:12:18 PM)
I dont do anything on the forums and I wont bring Amelia on so the web links aren't the same.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:12:43 PM)
Now hopefully everyone will just calm down and not have thier hearts shoot into thier throats ^.^
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:12:52 PM)
:)
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:13:23 PM)
And for the record as someone once told me I didn't deserve gnosis.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:13:38 PM)
I had every plan on giving it up once I felt comrotable playing again to allow someone else the space.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:14:52 PM)
And really only 3 PC's will be affected so the only need is that Keep'm Rolling Auto shop maybe have a public post about being destroyed.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:15:00 PM)
I'm all for closure.
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:15:36 PM)
I was not worried about it, just wanted to see what you would be happiest with. Do not know who said that, not sure I care who said it either. Fact is you have it, and the spirits would take notice of this situation. I just want to know that you are leaving this meeting satisfied and pleased with the outcome. I did not come off as rude or uncompassionate(sp?) to your wants and desires in this meeting?
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:16:36 PM)
You were absolutely beautiful and handled it the way I would expect even my staff to handle it ^.^.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:16:58 PM)
If garou picks up and more true come around I may make a kin in the future just right now any time they are on they are outnumbered 3 to 1
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:17:26 PM)
Thank you :) and if you do decide to make a new pc for the wta venue shoot us a fpm when the sheet and background is made.
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:17:49 PM)
I will. Thanks again !
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:06 PM)
no problem, got another meeting now!
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:12 PM)
lol see ya
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:14 PM)
LOL the joys of sting!
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:21 PM)
I know the feeling try owning a place
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:24 PM)
it never stops
Gabby Girl (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:38 PM)
lol no thanks
Raven OOC (Jun 27, 2011 8:18:42 PM)
LOL
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