Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:45:10 AM)
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Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:47:20 AM)
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Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:47:29 AM)
can I get a lsit of who is in here since I can't see greens
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:47:36 AM)
i am, and alley is
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:47:38 AM)
that is it
gothicmingus (Jun 14, 2011 12:47:50 AM)
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Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:47:58 AM)
and gothic it seems lol
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:01 AM)
Sam asked mingus to sit in as well, yes.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:11 AM)
since gothic has all the screens
gothicmingus (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:12 AM)
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Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:33 AM)
then i would like to ask menthril to come in, since he as screens as well
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:41 AM)
sure.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:46 AM)
then that'll be enough.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:48:59 AM)
was he in there an ST or as a PC/
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:49:12 AM)
or from te ooc?
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:49:30 AM)
ooc
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:49:45 AM)
on complaints from me then.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:50:03 AM)
gonna guess you meant "no"
Menthril (Jun 14, 2011 12:50:08 AM)
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Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:50:18 AM)
that'd be correct, lol.
Menthril (Jun 14, 2011 12:50:44 AM)
I am at work so I might have to leave suddenly I am a Firefighter and that trumps anything else okay.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:50:48 AM)
alright, meeting called to order. just a reminder, in my room we discuss issues, not eachother. we're polite and friendly - this isn't "someone against someone," it's a discussion of the issue to see where it all stands. everyone acknowledge that please, and we'll get started.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:50:52 AM)
no worries, Menthril.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 12:51:06 AM)
k
Menthril (Jun 14, 2011 12:51:15 AM)
sure.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:51:51 AM)
mingus, sam?
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 12:52:15 AM)
Yes, sorry. I thought you were going to start right away didn't want to interrupt
Mingus (Jun 14, 2011 12:53:13 AM)
alright
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:54:33 AM)
okay. let me just say this much. What happened in the OOC room is really not in the spirit of our terms of service. we don't passive aggress eachother and play games there. if there's a problem, we try to resolve it politely. Both EG and Samantha kind of went in that direction, I don't care who started it, it shouldn't have continued on either side. This is -not- me giving an official warning for it, I'm just stating that it's not the kind of exchange we want to see on SI.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:54:47 AM)
remember this is a game, not politics. let's keep some perspective and be gentle with one another.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 12:55:28 AM)
okay. we're going to start with Samantha's narrative, since to my knowledge she had the initial complaint. Sam, what can you tell me about all this?
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:00:38 AM)
((sorry typing long))
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:06:12 AM)
EG, if you want to type up your version of events while we're waiting on Sam, feel free. having the narratives back to back will help.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:10:39 AM)
Sam, the pc, is a mage venue mortal. Dalia (A kin), Sam (my pc, and as mentioned a mage venue pc) and Basil (a mage pc) were finishing up a scene, as Dalia and Sam are about to leave (Or at least Sam was) from green EG starts a scene by having a baby cry. We go to investigate. Sam, stat wise is an above average/highly experiene investigator, with keen senses (merits), and access to restricted materials (background) began to investigate. I made several rolls to represent this, and even correct my self when a roll was wrong (by 1 dice too high). I was told the trail goes dead and there was nothing else I could do because I was not a NOPD cop. When I informed EG, in pm, of my sheets stats, I was told it didn't matter (not in so many words), I then pointed out the base sheet creation for detective mortals was on average 2 and at most 3 dice lower than what Sam had, that she had merits to further make it easier, and of her access to restricted materials. Again told it didn't matter. I asked in the room if I could
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:11:11 AM)
((more))
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:11:49 AM)
I asked in the room if I could roll for anything I was told no. So, livid, I voiced my opinion in the main window. I do not do to cause strife, rather my intent was two fold, 1) to have a public record as two other PCs were in the room of my displeasure. I was told there was nothing else to roll for, that if there was a roll to be made EG would have told me. 2) to draw her, EG's, attention to the issue which I felt was being ignored instead of taken care of. EG responded, as I said, and I responded to EG, again highlighting what my char had system wise. I Was told not to argue and I could file a complaint. As I left the park, since I closed the PM window, I posted to the main room my roll to access records, I was told I did the roll wrong (which system wise I made the correct roll) and then I informed EG that I relented on the topic, to forget it, she responded to this telling me to stop or leave, and I pointed out that I had said I relented, she told me to leave. The scene continues, a PC gets fewer succes
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:11:55 AM)
((agian more))
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:12:19 AM)
The scene continues, a PC gets fewer successes than me and locates more clues (now this is despite being told by EG point blank there was nothing else to find/nothing to roll for). In the ooc room, as I got informed about the on going scene and became further livid. And yes, I freely admit to posting in the ooc room twice that I was annoyed by EG's ruling. When Dalia came in I asked her how the "failed" scene went (yes it was snarky of me, I admit that) and I asked if EG ever explained why the fewer sux trumped the higher sux. She said she didn't want to disccus it any further I said "alright" and dropped it, Lucinda made a comment about finding Dalia if the needed, Dalia said she never gave her address, so I adviced her screen it just to be on the safe side given how things had gone so far. Several minutes later EG posts telling me to stop. I told her the topic had previous to her comment by dropped since I told Dalia to screen it, and informed her I was screening her comment in the ooc, to which she respon
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:12:22 AM)
((again more))
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:12:56 AM)
I told her the topic had previous[ly] to her comment by dropped since I told Dalia to screen it, and informed her I was screening her comment in the ooc, to which she responded blaiming me, at which point I was informing gothic mingus of the continued harassment on the chat.. At this time, I asked her to drop the topic, following my post you ((allegory)) logged in. (end))
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:15:20 AM)
full disclosure - I logged on as a result of seeing this argument while I was in my PC skin. not sure if that is germane to the issue, but it's up. EG, your turn. What's your narrative of what happened?
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:16:11 AM)
::nods:: like I said I mentioned it in the ooc. I am not hiding that.
Menthril (Jun 14, 2011 1:17:24 AM)
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Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:22:05 AM)
first of all, since i just came back to read, i never told her she couldnt roll. i told her it didnt matter, which my foillowing posts will show -why- it didnt matter
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:22:21 AM)
I started my new Sl with sam, basil, and dalia in the park. They found a baby abandoned in a stroller, and they began to investigate. I did not ask sam to make a roll for her investigation, based on her mertis and stats. She also had a camera and a UV light. She found the two clues, which were the drag marks, and a small, white bundle that glowed under her UV light. When she got to the other side of the thicket, the trail dead ended. That is when the ooc comments of “*feels like she wasted her points*” and such began. She started to complain that she had more resources than the police, and should find more (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/samsmartassery.jpg )
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:22:36 AM)
She began to make snarky comments in her IC posts about it. I ignored it for the moment, since (revealing SL stuff) she had found EVERYTHING at the scene of the crime. She chose to ignore the white bundle, which the logs will prove, once I have them emailed to me. That, I cant help. So, she kept interrupting and complaining oocly, to which I told her to take complaints to the admins if she had any, and to please refrain from making more and ruining the scene. http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/samsmartassery.jpg and http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/sambitching2.jpg The second link is a result of her rolling, unasked, to gain access to the police DB to find info on a police officer.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:22:50 AM)
EG
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:22:59 AM)
can you pelase repsot the first screne shot with spaces between the url?
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:23:32 AM)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/samsmartassery.jpg
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:23:49 AM)
. That is what stemmed the warning that followed it.
I logged in one of my PCs, and saw her complaining in the ooc room about it after I asked her to leave. I then went IC. When the scene was done on my ST skin, I was going to log out, but went to the ooc room to see if the new cop was there to be sanctioned, having remember that del told me there was someone. When dalia entered the room, sam asked her “how did the rest of that failed thing go?” http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/sam2.jpg bringing it up first. She then told dalia to screen something, which I am not sure, since there was nothing said to incriminate anything, but based it on “be careful, concidering what has happened so far tonight.”
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:24:01 AM)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/sam1.jpg my final response was concerning these comments, and a previous one about her trying to still figure out how 3 sux trumps 5… when they all found the exact same thing, and she rolled without me asking her to, because I knew she wouldn’t need to for what I had planned.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:24:13 AM)
that is all for my narrative
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:24:16 AM)
ah its the second url you sent me. I dont have a photobucket, mingus could you upload EG6 and EG7 please
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:24:41 AM)
((if you have one))
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:25:01 AM)
alright, so summary of events is as follows (as I understand them).
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:25:16 AM)
hm, missed a screen, repeated one twice
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:25:54 AM)
that's the correct one http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/keakuaala/sambitching.jpg
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:25:55 AM)
there was a scene. Sam tried to use her character abilities to investigate beyond the initial result she received. EG said this didn't matter, given the way the scene was allocated. Sam felt ignored and put out by this, then things broke down as I saw them in the ooc room?
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:26:36 AM)
um... you missed the repeated times i asked her to please refrain from going ooc in the scene, and yet she persisted
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:26:46 AM)
I was going with the short version, EG.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:26:59 AM)
You missed that another PC came in made the same roll, got fewer succeses and more results.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:27:19 AM)
^sorry missed your short version comment.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:27:29 AM)
seems that was glanced over. and, as stated above, i never asked you for a roll. you got the exact same info, because that was ALL the info the scene had
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:30:19 AM)
For now guys, let's talk to me, not eachother. we're trying to settle it down without further argument.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:30:45 AM)
::nods:: will do.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:30:56 AM)
Okay. just so we're clear on things. Sam, sum up your core argument in a brief sentence for me, so I don't miss part of it again.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:34:06 AM)
A ST, to whom my char as no affiiliation, was in a scene in which the stats on the sheet were ingored because she was not a NOPD cop and being told, after asking (eg6), that was "nah" (eg7) that I didn't need to roll any more, and that another PC with fewer success, on a non-investigation roll, got more clues, and during this scene the issues raised were not addressed, but rahther pusehd to the side, and after relneting by saying "forget it" it was continue by EG.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:34:25 AM)
sorry for the long sentence.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:35:02 AM)
ok. EG, your rebuttal?
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:38:23 AM)
i started a scene with a PC that i had no idea was no longer in my venue (i had not been contacted on the final say of this, and she still has a mrotal icon), and her stats were NOT ignored due to "not being an NOPD cop", but due to the fact that i KNEW her stats and mertis, and that there was no need to roll, and i never asked for her to roll anything, save for an intell roll for all players to say "hey, we should call the cops!" since the scene was set to not hide much of anything, but to allow players to find various clues, which every single one was found, by both parties, which were two grooves in the ground, and a pair of panties, which were ignored by sam, but not ignored by the cops, yet this comment was ignored multiple times by sam.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:40:26 AM)
alright.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:40:40 AM)
here's my preliminary judgment on things.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:41:39 AM)
regarding the rolls in-scene: I don't have the logs of the scene, though a request has been made and we'll probably be getting those in the next day or so. So any judgment on exactly what happened and what was or wasn't warranted in the scene is going to have to be tabled for another admin, probably Dastai.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:42:05 AM)
Have skype I can send you the screens of the scene and DR if you want
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:42:31 AM)
the logs will tell everything
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:42:42 AM)
Sam: if you had an issue with the ST, you should have kept it to PM. I'm aware that sometimes it feels frustrating if you don't believe you're getting the response you feel you deserve, but that's not necessarily a call to put it into the main room of the scene.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:43:30 AM)
I was told the oppossite by another Admin, wait one, please while I find a copy of being told such?
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:43:45 AM)
hm. fair enough, holding on.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:43:57 AM)
told the oppiset concerning what part?
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:44:03 AM)
*is lost on that*
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:44:57 AM)
keeing it to pm.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:45:00 AM)
I think.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:45:07 AM)
Allegory, yes.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:46:42 AM)
btw, is there any way i can see what screens she got, since i showed the ones i have? it would be nice
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:47:11 AM)
either way, you did feed into the argument by complaining about it in the ooc, which you did admit to a moment ago. while you may have stopped talking about it briefly after, remember that not everyone responds at the same time - conversations in chats can be a bit delayed compared to face to face.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:48:49 AM)
now, EG.
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:49:30 AM)
::nods:: and I still admit to it, I have screens I took of me doing it (not the first time but the second time) which were sent to EG, and I admit that was snarky and wrong. My apologies.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:49:35 AM)
I'm aware that in general, Samantha can be said to have started things in the ooc room with her post. However as an ST, there's no call to continue an argument there. the proper step would have been to simply acknowledge that the problem was continuing, and take it to PM or another room.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:50:10 AM)
not to have an argument about it in the ooc room with people who really weren't terribly involved. I'm not askign for full on business-style professionalism, but that was a bit outside the realm of what was apropos.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:51:10 AM)
further, and this is possibly just me, but it does sit heavily on my mind - the names you put on those files were inappropriate. You knew sam would see those file names, and you could have easily (and quickly) changed them to something else. instead you put them in here, which is pretty blatantly passive aggressive, and absolutely wrong of you to do.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:51:54 AM)
side note - withdrawing the pm vs public room thing, given the comments of Dastai I just looked over.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:51:54 AM)
um, no they werent. i didnt expect her to see them. i name them in such a way to remind me which ones they were, comments, etc.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:52:09 AM)
You posted them in a room she's in.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:52:18 AM)
and, what comment from dastai, cause i have never heard of an admin saying to stop a scene for a complaint
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:52:21 AM)
that excuse doesn't wash. you could have changed them -right now-. save as is an easy function to use.
Mingus (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:05 AM)
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Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:09 AM)
i could have, yes, but i was engrossed in typing. i apologize for that, but i did not expect her to see them when i initially took them. again, it's my way of filing in my mind. i apologize for not changing them
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:09 AM)
the comment from dastai went along the lines of: "You could tell an ST 'check pm please' or even post (hey, could you check on this roll for me?)"
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:21 AM)
alright.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:49 AM)
did she state to continue to complain in an open room during a scene? because we were in PMs, and i responded to them in PMs when they were int hem
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:53 AM)
that is my question
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:53:59 AM)
I told you what she said.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:54:15 AM)
if Sam would like to copypaste the actual post to you, that's on her.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:54:30 AM)
now, my ruling:
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:54:33 AM)
to check the PM. which, does not condone continuing to complain and interupting a scene. am i correct?
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:54:49 AM)
I'm not going to repeat myself, EG. you saw what I posted.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:54:51 AM)
moving on.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:54:58 AM)
please post the exact post then
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:55:03 AM)
Sam, if you like.
Evil Grinz (Jun 14, 2011 1:55:08 AM)
cause, we are reading it two different ways
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:55:14 AM)
My official ruling on this event:
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:57:03 AM)
go to Dastai about what happened in-scene. I don't have the records, and that's more her department than mine (I'mnot a mechanics kind of guy). On the issue of the argument you two had, I'm not inclined to post an official warning about what either of you did. This can be seen as a mulligan - both sides took steps that weren't appropriate, and have admitted as much.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:57:49 AM)
Honestly, take a couple of days, let Das or the other admins look over the scene and let you know what to do in the future if you still need clarification, then either don't talk with eachother or contact one another with your apologies if you feel them warranted. This suggestion is in no way binding.
Allegory (Jun 14, 2011 1:57:56 AM)
Everyone ok with that judgment?
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:58:20 AM)
Allegory, PM regarding what you requesed from me?
Samantha Richardson (Jun 14, 2011 1:58:38 AM)
TY, posting
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[5/6/2011 12:18:26 PM] Dastai: 1) To avoid issues like this, in the future I will point out the subsequent damage should be rolled.
still doesnt give permission to continue to complain and be argumentive in the middle of a scene. just that she should ask to have the PMs checked, or can she do such and such. ty.
again, please respond to the judgment I've made on things.
i am fine with admitting we were both wrong. i still for the third time, would like all her screens she has on this matter, since she has mine. please FPM them to me, since it is now 2 am, and i have been up WAY longer than needed
again, that's really up to her. her screens, her property.
but if you would Sam, please fpm them to her as a courtesy.
I have no means to upload
photobucket is pretty useful.
as the party being complained against, i am in the right to see them, such as evidence goes that way. and, use www.photobucket.com
it glithces on my computer
that is what i did with mine
Gothic Mingus or Allegory, if I sent you them to you via skype (I know mingus has most) could one of you please post it for me?
yahoo has an uploader site. flicker, i think
fair enough. send them to EG over skype, or someone over skype to forward them on to her.
point of question.. but I'll be happy to send them to Allegory and EG
what's up, Mingus?
please FOPM them to me
and EG, if you need to go, that's fine by me.
thanks for coming by.
This being settled as a , "just leave each other alone" aspect?
no iron curtain from what i can tell. just a common curotsey of if we dont have to interact, we dont.
i have no issue with sam herself, just the situation we were all in, as an fyi
Forgive me, but I do not feel that is the case.
then EG, next time there is a slight issue with a player of the mage venue.. would you come to me and see what I can do next time. Just as a common courtise
this was a misunderstanding.
she has a mortal icon, EG wasn't aware she's mage venue.
you may feel it, but it's the truth.
I had though Das had contacted her by fpm at least to let her know the transfer
nope
I hate to say that, I have felt attacked by not only the screenshot titles, but by the tone, and when talkiing directly to Allegory in this screen I have felt attacked, by EG. Now I maybe reading too much into but from what I've seen so far, it is how I feel
Well.. EG.. Samantha Richardson and Shelly Haun are both apart of the mage veneu.. one is adjusting for consor.. the other for mage..
again, the titles are to remind me of what the screene is about. tone is hard to tell on chats. since i have not lied at all, take it for what you will.
well, it's all established now.
and, if they are, please change their icons
since they are no longer "moprtal"
everyone's grievances are aired. please respect my ruling on the matter, folks.
AS soon as they hit the point to have it switched I can.. I can't give them the other without the change of sheet done and such
So I can go to bed now?
yeah. thanks everyone for their patience. let's try to avoid a repeat in the future.
Thank you, allergory.
*waves*
you can give them the generic icon for mage for right now. cause, it's confusing to me, and it would help out a ton
Sounds good.. Later Menth
Night
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*sighs and face palms* I wish I could.. but that would be going against rules
hm?
oh, that.
EG just needed the last word.
(that is off the record. screenshot it at your peril)
Allegory.. trust me.. shes given me enough issues..
even when I told her that Samantha was mage venue.. not hers any more
and I've dealt with enough people like that in real life.. think its why I'm getting grey hairs at soon to be 30
Also
I need to do this in front of Allegory while mingus is here
ignore her request. it's your venue. follow the rules.
Mingus, sorry for harassing you earlier tonight whiel I was angry.
samantha.. Your a player in the mage venue. When my players need me.. I put aside to help them. If RL had been saying I couldn't. I'd of apologized and done what I could to help
on the other hand - do modify her tags to say (mage venue) or something.
ohhhh yeah.. I will be.. cause last thing I need is her messing with things
They do that for the demon mortals with regualr mortal icons.
::smiles at Mingus:: I want to say this too in front of allergory...
Allegory, mingus is one of the few reasons I am staying on this site. he is one of the best STs I have dealt with, even when we disagree he is direct without being rude, he is percise and he handles stress well. He also admits when he is wrong... I just want it said in front of an admin, and on the record, that he is probably from a (this) player's stand point, one of the best STs I have ever delt with.
Right.. now I'm blushing..
Well, it's always nice to have good reviews. I don't know Mingus personally, but I'm sure the sentiment is appreciated.
::kicks Mingus:: shuddup!
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alright.. tags added sam
I am going through the screens remind me to remove allegory's off the record comment
want me to relog?
if your gonna stay on.. yeah
yeah.. I'd do that
kk relogging then my screns stop when allegory goes to the ooc room
screenign this since I said I am removing something
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