Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 9:57:01 PM)
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Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 9:57:40 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 9:59:41 PM)
(okies.. did you need something with hilma as well right?)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:00:51 PM)
Yes let me dig up a screenshot to get this right...I sometimes SS as notes :P))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:01:29 PM)
(awesome show of orginization awesome! Love that!)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:03:11 PM)
((O.o ummm.....I'm not that organized))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:03:19 PM)
((My memory just sucks))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:04:10 PM)
(lol)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:04:15 PM)
((Basically...Mosi has been having wierd dream visions geared off of Scarey Bunnys SL...Sarah would run it by the elder for advice you can try to wing it OR, I can try Scarey Bunny...))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:07:38 PM)
((want to try to field it or...wyrmlore all the way?))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:08:04 PM)
((Emma is this kinfolk girl I think may be bane pocessed or something off of Bunnys SL))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:08:11 PM)
(I got it)

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:08:16 PM)
(give me a sec)

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:09:59 PM)
*hilma listened to sarahs story and she thought about it for a moment before she responded with.* Long ago when the world was young an old Lakota spiritual leader was on a high mountain and had a vision. In this vision, Iktomi, the great trickster and teacher of wisdom, appeared in the form of a spider. Iktomi the spider picked up the elder's willow hoop which had feathers, horsehair, beads and offerings on it, and began to spin a web. He spoke to the elder about the cycles of life; how we begin our lives as infants, move on through childhood and onto adulthood. Finally, we go to the old age where we must be taken care of as infants, completing the cycle. "But," Iktomi said as he continued to spin his web, "in each time of life there are many forces; some good and some bad. If you listen to the good forces, they will steer you in the right direction. But, if you listen to the bad forces, they'll steer you in the wrong direction, and may hurt you. So these forces can help or can interfere with the harmony of N

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:10:09 PM)
of Nature."

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:10:57 PM)
While the spider spoke, he continued to weave his web. When Iktomi finished speaking, he gave the elder the web and said, "the web is a perfect circle with a hole in the center. Use the web to help your people reach their goals, make good use of their ideas, dreams and visions. If you believe in the Great Spirit, the web will catch your good ideas and the bad ones will go through the hole."

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:12:12 PM)
The elder passed on his vision to the people, and now many Indian people hang a dream catcher above their bed to sift their dreams and visions. The good is captured in the web of life and carried with the people, but the evil in their dreams drops through the hole in the center of the web and are no longer a part of their lives. In keeping with the old traditions and the teachings of wise uktena we have adapted versions of this to protect our kinfolk from the invasion of the bad forces that can capture there dreams and throw the balance of nature into dissary.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:12:58 PM)
Well....the kicker is grandmother......this kinfolk Mosi feels that Emma needs to be killed for the safety of others. You think these visions are JUST bad dreams? I honestly suspect ....... Mosi for all her foolishness is a ........visionary of a type.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:19:57 PM)
*She looked at Sarah a moment longer.* There is a theurge whom came to me recently seeking information about a kinfolk whom I felt needed a exorcisum. Perhaps this is the same kinfolk you are speaking of, if that is the case, you could find out by seeking out the theurge and asking her. Do you Slices True the Fenris cresent moon.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:20:30 PM)
Ahh...*thinks* Anna?

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:20:54 PM)
*she gave Sarah a nod of her head* Yes her human name is Anna.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:24:10 PM)
I advised Mosi not to do anything on her own or ...anything rash but frankly shes an idiot. I'll speak with Anna when I can and hope Mosi listens for once. I do wish that Fianna lout of a mate of hers was around more to reign that fool in.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:25:40 PM)
*She listened then nodded her head* would be folish if she tried to kill someone whom is possessed. You do know what would happen yes?

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:27:27 PM)
I do from direct practical experience. Call it formori 101. Kill the host, the bane is freed to do whatever banes do unless........some garou happen to be umbral at the right time to dispatch the thing.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:28:13 PM)
*She looked at her*indeed how ever if there are no garou to dispatch it, it can simply posess the closest one to it. Which in this case would be Mosi..

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:28:42 PM)
Then mosi herself would be posessed and a kinfolk whom had a chance at being saved would be dead..

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:30:05 PM)
*winces*

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:30:38 PM)
I'll talk to Anna and definately reign Mosi in. Sense it seems her mate can't.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:33:49 PM)
((OK not sure how to procede from here on wyrmlore))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:33:51 PM)
*She noticed the wince and gave sarah a nod of agnowledgement.*It is also said those whom are killed durring possession and not given an exorsisum, that there spirits are forever lost to the wyrm and gaias can not sooth there pain or feel there presence. A piece of her is taken and she becomes weaker, just like when a gaien garou dances the spiral, if they are not send to the silver lake to attone for there betrayal in death they would return to the wyrm not to gaia.. A piece of her dies and the wyrm is strengthened. The balance has been out of commission for a very long time.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:34:24 PM)
*she nods*

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:36:25 PM)
Owl implies that ....human ghosts get lost more and more....and that things are broken in the death world too.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:37:47 PM)
It can be seen in nature all around us. As well as in the battles we fight against the enemy. One must know the enemys strength and weakness in order to fight it on even ground, or gain a edge in the battle. Here lies a weakness, for us, and a strength for the wyrm. *She goes on to explain.*the wyrm has a way of taking a gaien garou and useing a acient type of ritual converting them into a black spiral dancer. They retain all there knowledges of there previous tribe, this also includes all our secrets and tribal strengths and weakness. All our gifts and the spirits whom teach them. Most spirals have been at one time or another a gaien garou, of what ever rank imaginable. They have all sorts of knowledge about our inner workings. What do we know of theres?

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:40:08 PM)
(As you see im getting to the lore part lol)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:40:54 PM)
I can read ...some of thier glyphs. That came at with much study and ...pain. I think I understand the "intent", though by no means the full workings of SOME of there rituals. I...rescued a packmate from a torture ritual of a type once. His pain was being used to feed banes...somehow. I studied the ritual sight later before we cleansed and destroyed it. Horrible wars they are having up North Grandmother.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:41:21 PM)
((I back this up by scenage here as well with the glyph reading...lucky rolls using the wyrmore I have))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:44:45 PM)
*She listened to her. Then nodded her head in understanding. * Yes witnessing such things can be confusing but let me explain about the pain feeding the banes. There are certain types of spirits called pain spirits and there are also pain banes. These creatures feed of the pain of others. You can see them some times hanging around bad areas of a city or projects. Where people are suffering and do not have a means to a end. The banes feed off this suffering as well as the pain spirits. But pain spirits tend to leave a area if there is to much wyrm influence, unless they are extremly hungry and in need of nurishment. I will tell you I learned a great deal about the wyrm and the rituals they have as well as the different aspects and totems.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:44:49 PM)
And I encountered a Silverfang who fell.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:45:24 PM)
You are going to be taking a rank challenge soon yes?

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:45:46 PM)
Yes.....into Erebus to attempt to learn a Rite from a spirit entity known as Charass.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:49:30 PM)
*she nodded her head once more in understanding then she moved closer to sarah and whispered in her ear* you will see the cleansing of spirals when you are there. The thing is, time does not always move the same there. And some times a garou who is sent there in the 1920's can come out cleasend in 2012.. There for everyone they knew everything they have known is completely different. they have not aged yet everyone they once knew is likely long dead.. it can be very hard to adjust in such a manner..

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:50:28 PM)
However think about it.. you now have a cleasend garou, one willing to die for gaia, one whom no longer touched by the wyrms presence but knows all its secrets

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:50:53 PM)
True. A weapon for our side.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:51:16 PM)
*She leaned back then looked at sarahs face to see if there was the uktenas curious look in the yonge ragabashes eyes*

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:51:36 PM)
I know of where such a weapon resides.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:53:25 PM)
A redeamed one....really?

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:54:05 PM)
*Oh yes theres the glimmer...though not as strong as she once was, Sarah is showing definate recovery since the cursed spear incident*

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 10:56:11 PM)
*she nodded her head to sarah*How ever I must tell you, he is quite particular with whom he will share his knowledge with. He belives and I have seen it happen to my dissmay, some times knowledge of the enemy can slowly warp the person whom holds such knowledge. Thus he normaly tests his would be student to make sure they will not be effected spirtualy by the information he bestows on to them. His own fall making him quite adiment that he does not inadvertantly lead others down the path he himself fell victum to.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 10:59:25 PM)
My prior teacher was a grouchy Glasswalker theurge who had learned alot ...perhaps too much, from the near constant Spiral wars up North. He only agreed to teach me when he realized I had suffered from a....well I had an injured packmate. He was ritual linked still to the Spirals. Don't ask me how....probably that same torture ritual he was rescued from. I suffered banes tempting me in dreams for weeks. When the sept realized I warded them off myself well.....he taught me.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:00:01 PM)
But.......I still sense inner...damage from that Spear. *frowns* Not as bad as it was though. I think I'd be OK.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:00:51 PM)
*Looks at her a moment then responds with* Yes the banes tempting you in your sleep, like i mentioned before there is a dream catcher that our tribe has perfected that can make sure those things do not happen to kinfolk and garou while they sleep.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:04:13 PM)
*she nodded to what Sarah said about the spear*that is some thing you must over come, and perhaps he knows a way to aid you in speeding up the recovery of it. I can send a spirit to let him know to be expecting a visit from you. If you wanted to give it a try Sarah. I for one think you are capable of doing it. I have seen you do a great deal, in the small amount of time you have been here. Risking your own life to save friends and sept members, and the sept as a whole. I do not think you could be tempted you are so selfless. But he would be the final judge of that.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:04:51 PM)
I've heard of it.....banes have not bothered me for some time. I had to mercy kill the packmate I saved from that Spiral ritual. Once he was dead.....the link was broken. Years later I stand in a position that I could have cleansed him. Today I probably could have broken the link myself...but back then.....just a claith in a city sept war ...a sept that could devote no energy to helping a tortured tainted victim. Best I could do was set my packmate free.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:06:14 PM)
*sighs* That Wendigo is lucky. No one was there to cleanse MY packmate when he was victimized.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:06:39 PM)
((this is Sarah without the ragabash flare LoL))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:08:03 PM)
(Shes awesome haha)

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:09:58 PM)
*she frowned a bit*I am sorry for what happened to your packmate. Now that you are established this teaching might be the best thing for you. Do not forget what you have lost in the past, even if the memory hurts deep inside like a spear. Use it to aid others in the future.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:13:42 PM)
*She then gave sarah an adress north of new orleans in a place called Jackson Mississippi*

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:14:08 PM)
I have....otherwise that marshland at the western edge of the bawn wouldn't have such nice Lillies these days. ((she deep cleansed after the Deep Dweller broke surface))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:14:29 PM)
Humm Jackson....not that far. I could make it a day trip.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:17:00 PM)
*she nodded to Sarah* It is not that far but it is like you said a day's journey. I will send a spirit to let him know to be expecting you. He Goes by the name Old Song Bird

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:17:47 PM)
Hes Pure One?

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:18:01 PM)
*nods her head* indeed he is

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:18:12 PM)
Ours or of Little brother/

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:18:21 PM)
Ours

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:19:05 PM)
Damn. One of ours who became fallen......with just what I know the Spirals would probably have a field day. I'm glad hes redeamed but it's a disturbing thought none the less.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:20:50 PM)
*She gave Sarah a nod of her head*Yeah well it happens to all the tribes. Do not pass on that information either. He does not pass it around, not many would understand.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:22:31 PM)
No ...they wouldn't. I have many friends among the other tribes but you have to admit each tribe operates with a very limited perspective.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:23:14 PM)
((so we schedule another evening to visit Song Bird?))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:23:28 PM)
*she nodded her head*and we are mistrusted as it is amongst many, for our extensive knowledge in things the others feel should not be known. Thus keeping them oblivious to certain things is in our best intrest.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:23:47 PM)
(I would love that! when you wanna schedual it?)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:25:10 PM)
Unfortunately the vast majority of garou are also idiots. *said in a resigned way, she clearly does not include anyone in this room among the idiots*

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:25:32 PM)
*shes usually bluntly honest with Hilma, the rest see her crazy ragabash self*

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:25:36 PM)
*she laughed at that*ahh ever the ragabash

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:26:00 PM)
Hey...it's true.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:26:46 PM)
(You can opt to schedual it now or send me a fpm with your avialabilities.. Which do you want to do?)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:26:53 PM)
Only reason the Spirals haven't won yet is because I also believe they are plagued with idiots because afterall....they are just corrupted versions of ourselves. And that damages intelligence on the other way around.

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:27:00 PM)
((now))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:27:15 PM)
(ok when are you avilable?)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:28:06 PM)
((Friday evening around 10pm est?))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:28:35 PM)
(okay i have nothing planned for friday evening its a open slot so i am penciling you in for 10 pm friday eastrn)

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:29:50 PM)
(ok i got it in my notes its official friday 14ths 10 pm eastern)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:30:31 PM)
((yeah))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:31:26 PM)
Thanks for your time Grandmother. Do enjoy the garbage bread. Made it myself.

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:32:54 PM)
Ohh thank you!

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:33:05 PM)
(I had garbage bread for dinner tonight made it myself haha!)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:34:39 PM)
((Umm....I tend to do that alot.))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:34:53 PM)
(lol okies)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:35:03 PM)
((Touch of the sight from my mothers side))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:35:13 PM)
*she took the garbage bread and gave the ragabash a smile before moving off to go eat*

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:35:22 PM)
((Umm....I'm not spying I promise))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:35:35 PM)
(lol)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:36:05 PM)
((It's rather unconcious....I CAN shut it off....once I'm aware))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:36:27 PM)
(okay i finished my notes on my side, remember when i run the scene for you it will likely be a days travle to song bird and a days travle back not inclucing the time in which you are proving your strength of convicition)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:36:29 PM)
((But it's as vague this time as....I want garbage bread IRL :P))

Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:37:39 PM)
(thus be prepared to make what ever ic stuff you need to for your chrs small absence ie need to speak to pack or kin or what have you to let them know)

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:39:33 PM)
((OK))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:40:55 PM)
((I think I'll make a cameo appearance in the sept now))

Sarah Swiftfox (Jan 11, 2011 11:41:03 PM)
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Gabby Girl (Jan 11, 2011 11:52:02 PM)
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