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Sledge Jackson (Jul 1, 2011 11:58:19 PM)
Take a look at the list of permitted and not permitted merits and flaws. Iron Will requires some super serious reasoning behind it and, thou it sounds rough, bashing a sleeping mans head in and being in prison isn't it, otherwise a quater of the street kids in the WoD would have it. Second of all, you can't have an infamous sire that requires the Prince of this city we are running to have done things... That might be a problem, see, seeing as the local prince Hasn't done those things. You can feel free to change your city, but that'll mean ditching the Area knowladge, or you can keep the city and change the sire, but that means ditching the Infamous Sire. Also, your sire can't just GIVE YOU fragments of the Book Of Nod... There aren't enough flaws in all the world to justify you starting the game with every Kindred in the world wanting what you have. Next, no to your Melee. Bangging out dents for a living will give you Melee 1 at best, using it constantly as a tool of crime might earn you two. You are

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Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:00:19 AM)
Welcome back.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:00:23 AM)
sorry clicked away

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:01:25 AM)
Your c/p cut off where he was discussing Melee.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:02:17 AM)
Next, no to your Melee. Bangging out dents for a living will give you Melee 1 at best, using it constantly as a tool of crime might earn you two. You are not, however, a professional Sledge Hammer Killer Guy. Given your desire to be a biker, those dots might be better spent on Drive. Next, you are NOT on the Path Of Caine. Your sire did NOT teach you to abandon all humanity in "A few days". You might as well just forget that idea full stop, because I'll be blown away if you can muster up a background that explains how someone managed to teach you THAT without you being part of a well respected clan. Next: Celerity, Potence, Fort... Let's try Potence, Fort and something else that doesn't take blood, seeing as your 14th Gen. Blood is too precious to burn away on Celerity, too hard to learn without feeding constantly like a bloated piggy. Try some Auspex, Presence, Dominate or Obfuscate.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:02:32 AM)
Nextly... If that's a word. Nextly, you can't read fragments of the Book Of Nod and not learn more then one dot of Kindred Lore. It's litteraly a history of the creation of the Kindred Race and the most hungrily hunted bit of knowladge know to Vampire kind... Then, there's your Sledge Hammer. I'm taking that off your carried items and putting it in your owned items, as it seems unlikley that the Police would want a kid who murdered a man with a sledge hammer walking around the streets with a sledge hammer over his shoulder. If you REALLY want to take it with you, you'll have to tell me what amazing steps you've taken to stop the law from constantly pulling you up from anything from "Brandishing a deadly weapon with intent to harm" to "J-Walking" at any oppertuinity they get. Lastly, you don't have anywhere NEAR the social stats to have been a gang leader of any kind. At best you're some very vicious muscle, but you don't stand out from the crowd sufficently to have earnt a gang of your own. Muscle bound

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:02:50 AM)
Give it the once around, maybe shuffle a few points or change your history and see what you deal out

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:06:48 AM)
tell me when you're done looking it over

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:10:36 AM)
That's a wall o' text.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:11:20 AM)
yeah...

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:13:14 AM)
Okay, so I do see where he's coming from with these things.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:13:44 AM)
I did a summary from what i can tell

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:13:46 AM)
beef up justification for iron will. remove area knowledge or change sire. melee better justification no path of cain no book replace celerity with auspex, presence, dominate, obfuscate book of nod requires more than 1 dot of lore... no more than 1 dot of lore allowed at char creation sledge hammer allowed to carry with me. social stats to be a gang leader

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:14:45 AM)
Why don't we leave out the book of nod bit, or maybe just have hints of knowledge -of- it in the background? Something you can pursue later in scenes and the like?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:15:13 AM)
i only had it for the path of cain but he said NO PATH OF CAIN

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:15:24 AM)
so it can be removed altogether

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:16:10 AM)
I just changed it for humanity

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:16:10 AM)
Yeah, we generally don't have people starting on Paths.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:16:57 AM)
ok i'm sitting at conviction 3 instinct 2 and courage 5

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:17:03 AM)
Nope.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:17:10 AM)
That should be diffferent.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:17:17 AM)
Conscience and Self Control

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:17:26 AM)
And no 5's at start.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:17:32 AM)
k one sec

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:18:05 AM)
4 courage and 3's for the other 2

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:18:26 AM)
that drops my willpower by 1

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:18:41 AM)
What's it at after dropping?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:19:03 AM)
courage is at 4 willpower is at 6 (2 freebies were used)

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:19:27 AM)
Oh, that should be more than enough.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:19:31 AM)
my humanity would be a 6 now?

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:20:19 AM)
Yes, that's correct.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:20:34 AM)
Are you currently making the changes on your sheet?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:20:38 AM)
yup

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:20:41 AM)
Perfect. =)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:20:51 AM)
ok as far as disciplines

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:20:57 AM)
how hard are they to obtain ic

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:03 AM)
Not very.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:05 AM)
he wants me to remove celerity

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:09 AM)
I personally prefer teachers.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:19 AM)
so i can replace it with dominate then

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:22 AM)
Well, I see his point that with being 14th gen, you -don't- have a lot of blood to burn up.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:27 AM)
that will help with the gang leader concept

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:30 AM)
Oh, totally. Caitiff. =)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:21:45 AM)
ok done

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:22:13 AM)
ok now i need to fix my social stats to "be a gang leader"

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:22:18 AM)
this is where i need your help

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:22:40 AM)
*Rubs hands together* Whatcha got now?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:01 AM)
on the left side ill run the numbers

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:11 AM)
2 2 2 1 1 0 2 1 2 1

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:25 AM)
middle 0 2 1 0 1 3 0 1 1 0

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:29 AM)
Ahhhhh

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:33 AM)
NO c/p =P

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:39 AM)
cant

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:39 AM)
That came out weeeird.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:42 AM)
it's on the sheet

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:45 AM)
ok it'll be slow

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:47 AM)
here we go

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:49 AM)
Oh, don't worry

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:23:55 AM)
I thought you were talking Attributes.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:24:08 AM)
he didn't seem to have a problem with my atts

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:24:15 AM)
but i may change them a bit anyway

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:24:34 AM)
actually i will

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:24:55 AM)
right now str dex sta is 4/3/4 (freebies used to up stam)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:02 AM)
cha man app 2 2 2

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:08 AM)
per int wit 3 2 3

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:22 AM)
You'll need to justify that extra 4 if you haven't, but if he didn't hve a problem with it, I'm assuming you did.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:32 AM)
As a leader, you want more Charisma.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:41 AM)
i'm keeping my pysical

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:48 AM)
the whole point of this character is fighting

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:25:51 AM)
And with gangs, more manipulation as well.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:03 AM)
so i'm changing the mental with social

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:14 AM)
Alright, well you're asking me how to make your character more of a gang leader ... these are things you can look at either now or in the future.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:21 AM)
ok

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:22 AM)
Leadership ... probably more like 2.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:29 AM)
wait wait on abilities please

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:34 AM)
lemme fix the atts

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:26:43 AM)
Streetwise 3.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:27:21 AM)
ok fixed atts cha 3 man 3 app 3

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:27:26 AM)
i mean 3 3 2

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:27:47 AM)
It's -really- hard to make gang leaders because you do need so much in Attributes.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:27:57 AM)
Okay .. so what are your top stats right now?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:28:10 AM)
cha 3 man 3 app 3

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:28:14 AM)
per 2 int 2 wits 2

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:28:21 AM)
oh sorry appearance is a 2

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:28:54 AM)
And leaving the other with 4 / 3 / 4?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:28:58 AM)
yeah

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:29:20 AM)
I would honestly suggest dropping either the Str 4 or the Stam 4, and putting 10 freebies into your attributes for Perc & Wits.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:29:33 AM)
That's going to give you the better rounded, and still keep your physicals up.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:30:05 AM)
can't do it

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:30:23 AM)
Well, you -can-. It's a matter of moving points around in places. =)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:30:57 AM)
ok... lol (I don't wanna do it... my guy is a fighter and i wont sac those stats)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:31:08 AM)
but i did use freebies for other stuff

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:31:13 AM)
so i could lessen those

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:31:19 AM)
for better abilities

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:31:31 AM)
You don't have to sac all the stats.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:31:39 AM)
Truuuuust me here. =)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:31:55 AM)
ok listening

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:32:04 AM)
can you pull up my sheet?

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:32:11 AM)
Save what you have so far.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:32:23 AM)
updated

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:33:07 AM)
brb, sorry!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:36:34 AM)
ok

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:41 AM)
Back, sorry about that.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:45 AM)
Roommate needed moi.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:48 AM)
Okay. SHEET!

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:51 AM)
One sec =)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:52 AM)
wait wait

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:56 AM)
lemme save again

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:51:56 AM)
... Waiting!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:52:14 AM)
Ok you can open it now

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:53:18 AM)
Okay

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:53:57 AM)
in an effort to kill 2 birds with one stone... Smear said that if I wanted to maintain the local concept I couldn't have my master been bloodhunted in New Orleans so I would have to choose a new city or get rid of local knowledge.... and he wanted me to have more leadership

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:53:59 AM)
Hah ... I was going to say your Generation is missing ... but then I remembered there is no option for 14th

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:54:05 AM)
so............ on merits and flaws

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:54:35 AM)
I removed infamous sire and sire's resentment (will have to edit that part of my story) and I added Natural Leader as a merit and removed iron will

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:54:43 AM)
so i'm sitting at 4 / 4 on merits flaws

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:55:47 AM)
sound good?

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 12:56:58 AM)
I like the Natrual Leader merit ... definitely helps ^_^

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 12:57:43 AM)
know any other merits that would help with the gang leader concept?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:02:57 AM)
i seem to be missing 2 freebies somewhere

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:03:11 AM)
5 for attribute 4 for abilities 2 for WP 2 for backgrounds

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:05:18 AM)
What's the crafts for?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:05:24 AM)
auto repair

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:05:28 AM)
Ah

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:05:31 AM)
Dang, alright

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:05:43 AM)
i think i forgot to use 2 freebie points

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:09 AM)
Area knowledge is 2.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:17 AM)
right

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Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:24 AM)
i listed that under abilities

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:28 AM)
hey smear

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:31 AM)
fixing things for you

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:36 AM)
*Dance, jive, rock and roll* Awesome pants!!

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:38 AM)
Trying to!

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:06:58 AM)
How can I help? :)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:02 AM)
quick recap for smear.... under attributes i changed my secondary

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:14 AM)
to accomadate the social aspect

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:25 AM)
Ah, do you're going to stay as a gang leader? :)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:29 AM)
yeah

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:43 AM)
Wicked! Get some awesome street allies and own your "turf"

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:43 AM)
I would honestly drop your retainers or herd .. or one in both.

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:07:52 AM)
Make those Cammie c*** pay for pushing YOU around.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:05 AM)
That'll give you 4 ... we just need one more. JUST ONE!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:10 AM)
i want my 2 retainers

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:17 AM)
Oh, wait.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:19 AM)
but i can drop herd

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:21 AM)
Okay

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:37 AM)
Retainers are you Dirty Druggie Whore and your Super Smart brother, right?

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:42 AM)
Let's do that ... and maybe drop a dot of wp?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:08:44 AM)
yeah

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:00 AM)
That'll give you 5, that you can then spend in Attributes

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:07 AM)
5 is still -well- above average.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:09 AM)
ok herd at 1 and i had 2 freebies already

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:12 AM)
Cool. Yeah, better keep them. They are background stuff.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:23 AM)
ok getting confused

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:31 AM)
I'll shut up. Ame, carry on.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:35 AM)
i had 2 freebies already

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:36 AM)
Haha

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:44 AM)
*Doesn't shut up, whistles 'memories' for Ame*

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:44 AM)
Okay.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:09:46 AM)
i dropped herd to 1 that makes 3

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:10:03 AM)
dropped wp to 5 that makes 4

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:10:22 AM)
that's enough to up 2 abilities

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:10:48 AM)
leadership to 2 and streewise to 3 maybe?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:11:09 AM)
oh i dropped iron will infamous sire and sire's resentment and added natural leader

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:11:14 AM)
Could do ... you're just -really- going to have to focus on Wits and Int.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:11:35 AM)
I still think you should move one of those 4s from Phys into Ment.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:11:36 AM)
cant edit the attributes though i really want 4/3/4

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:11:49 AM)
he's a beast

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:01 AM)
But a charismatic one ;-)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:17 AM)
he's got natural leader and dominate now

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:29 AM)
i think it's enough with some upping in abilities

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:31 AM)
*Coughs* You COULD raise one of those physical stats later in game?

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:34 AM)
I think the leadership and streetwise would be good.

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:39 AM)
I mean, assuming you don't make an early enemy...

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:42 AM)
That's what -I- was thinking.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:53 AM)
Keep in mind, you can always bump physicals with blood.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:12:58 AM)
You can't do that with anything else.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:08 AM)
leadership to 3 with a 2 in streewise or 2 in leadership with 3 in streetwise

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:10 AM)
*Pumps to Perception, pissing blood out his eye sockets*

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:18 AM)
3 in Streetwise.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:30 AM)
*Smacks Smear* =P

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:33 AM)
ok

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:50 AM)
hmmm

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:51 AM)
The books says a 3 is "You could head your own gang"

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:13:58 AM)
ok cool

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:07 AM)
*Pumps to perception http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJYxCSXjhLI&feature=player_detailpage#t=163s*

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:14 AM)
so i'm at leadership 2 and streetwise 3

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:21 AM)
Now THAT'S a gang leader.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:29 AM)
with 3 in manip and 3 in cha

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:30 AM)
Correct.

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:33 AM)
Runs his people hard with that leadership, knows the streets well.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:35 AM)
dominate and natural leader

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:39 AM)
Yus.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:41 AM)
ok

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:45 AM)
so i'm even then

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:47 AM)
Buy up Allies in game by getting Street infulence up and getting gangers...

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:50 AM)
i could add some merits and flaws

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:52 AM)
Smear, you wanna look him over at this point?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:14:59 AM)
lemme save real quick

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:15:00 AM)
get some "Fame: Gang Leader"

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:15:17 AM)
Run some crimes, Dominate some cops... Man, -I- wanna be in your gang!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:15:21 AM)
lol

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:15:32 AM)
saved

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:15:49 AM)
We still have melee 3... that's a little high for a panel beater, yeah?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:04 AM)
Justification ...

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:04 AM)
I mean, that's Martial Arts good... That's "I run a part time fencing school" good.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:16 AM)
Sire who nolonger hates me

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:18 AM)
trained me

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:25 AM)
Oh, sire loves you now? :O

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:33 AM)
removed those two flaws

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:40 AM)
cause i wanted to maintain the local concept

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:16:58 AM)
you said the prince didn't order the blood hunt on him

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:01 AM)
Awesome. I'm happy with that. Where's your sire now then?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:06 AM)
um...

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:11 AM)
hadn't thought that far yet

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:28 AM)
Yeah, we can't MAKE the local prince do things based on a single character background. ;) That's not fair: "I'm Prince Bell, and I now hate this guy you've all never heard of" "Yes miss!"

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:29 AM)
but since i'm caitiff and have no idea what the hell my sire is

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:49 AM)
i'm guessing he's not in the city anymore or dead

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:55 AM)
you're smarter than me

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:17:58 AM)
got an idea?

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:18:04 AM)
LOL <--- Hurp a DUUURR :(

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:18:17 AM)
Well, he hung around long enough to teach you things, so he's obviously interested in you...

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:18:39 AM)
but i don't know his clan unless he's caitiff himself

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:18:40 AM)
He prolly wouldn't have just ticked off unless you had a falling out over something.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:18:50 AM)
or he died

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:18:59 AM)
Well, he's pretty close to thin blood. He could have HAD a clan and realised they would hate him for MAKING a thing blood.

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:19:10 AM)
Maybe he went out in some blaze of glory or somethin' ... or .. ooohh. Maybe someone killed him (or a group of someones ... and he's vengeful or something!

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:19:22 AM)
Taught you a few things to keep you alive, prayed you would make it, and then his clan picked him up for bringging out Gehenna?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:06 AM)
so he's here for 4 years atleast

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:12 AM)
trains me and whatnot

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:17 AM)
then... ???

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:33 AM)
i don't want him in city

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:39 AM)
Then a group of Kindred march in one night, demand he explain himself.. He buys you time to escape?...

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:49 AM)
You don't know what happened, but it didn't sound like they were talking things through...

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:20:57 AM)
yeah

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:21:00 AM)
that sounds good

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:21:02 AM)
Gun fire... Screaming, shouting, things breaking... The sound of tea NOT being drunk!!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:21:09 AM)
likes that idea

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:21:25 AM)
ok as far as the sheet is concerned can you check it?

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:21:42 AM)
Sure, lemme leap back in! *Zoom*

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:22:26 AM)
I'd still be happier with more Drive if you are a Biker... They wont like a biker who sometimes falls off. ;)

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:01 AM)
You don't have Allies, so you'll have to earn your "Gang" IC, that cool?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:10 AM)
perfectly

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:17 AM)
besides my herd is at 3

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:20 AM)
i mean 3 people

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:34 AM)
bikers

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:41 AM)
so eventually i'll have more

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:48 AM)
They are delicious, but they aren't gonna be grabbing guns and helping you put down someone. ;)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:23:50 AM)
and some will become important some not

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:05 AM)
Okay, I'll give it the thumbs up. Ame, what'cha think? Melee 2 Drive 2?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:14 AM)
no no

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:26 AM)
i wrote in the background that he's not a great driver

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:31 AM)
he just looks good on a 3 wheeler

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:35 AM)
it's the only bike that fits him

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:43 AM)
He's app 2, he doesn't look THAT good. ;)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:24:55 AM)
he thinks he looks good

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:07 AM)
and my sire taught me melee 3

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:09 AM)
Those bikers are gonna spot you as a phoney in seconds with Drive 1.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:09 AM)
remember

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:19 AM)
ok then i'll take a 2 point flaw

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:24 AM)
and pump it to 2

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:26 AM)
You got enough of those.

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:25:34 AM)
You're just making up points to keep your combat stats.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:02 AM)
well i seriously want 3 in melee

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:10 AM)
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Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:14 AM)
WHOOPSE! :O

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:17 AM)
you changed names

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:17 AM)
Wrong window...

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:30 AM)
Yeah, then I KICKED me!

Nasty Wet Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:30 AM)
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Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:26:35 AM)
Take that, me!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:27:50 AM)
what if i lowered resources to 1 and WP to 4

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:28:07 AM)
used those 2 points to up drive

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:28:07 AM)
What if you lowered melee to 2 and raised drive to 2?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:28:20 AM)
*beats head against wall*

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:28:39 AM)
That's right, I'm making you be MORE then a combat wombat. ;)

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:28:45 AM)
How cold of me!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:28:45 AM)
i'm not just combat

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:29:09 AM)
ok fine 2 2

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:29:17 AM)
i'll earn it icly

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:29:17 AM)
Huzzar!

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:29:32 AM)
Icon?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:29:32 AM)
editing now

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:29:41 AM)
or are you editing?

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:30:10 AM)
I can edit. :) Which Icon would you like?

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:30:58 AM)
don't know what they have

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:31:24 AM)
Well... You can have the slanty Caitiff one, or the Generic Vamp one, or... If you want to pretend to be another clan, their icon

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:31:34 AM)
oooooooooh

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:31:47 AM)
let me pretend to be brujah

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:31:59 AM)
it's not a long stretch

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:32:05 AM)
You Caitiff and your Brujah ;)

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:32:11 AM)
yay

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:32:31 AM)
Okay, log ALLL the way out and back in. Let's see that icon!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:32:33 AM)
i'll have to edit that background to make my sire not hate me

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:32:41 AM)
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Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:33:13 AM)
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Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:33:18 AM)
yay

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:33:44 AM)
Werd. Looks good on ya

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:33:51 AM)
Sorry, I ran afw ... roommate again. >.<

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:33:58 AM)
Damn those roommates

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:00 AM)
hey real quick

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:08 AM)
i saw that you moved my sledge hammer

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:16 AM)
where did you put it?

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:31 AM)
Just in your "Not carried with you" stuff

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:38 AM)
so that cops aren't constantly pulling you over.

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:48 AM)
ok it's in the trunk of my 3 wheeler then

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:34:52 AM)
Sweet

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:05 AM)
easily accessible but not out in the open

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:11 AM)
Now, GO! Go and cause trouble!!

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:18 AM)
gotta go walk dog but thanks

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:25 AM)
lol, such a good crime boss

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:28 AM)
lol

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:32 AM)
be on later though

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:34 AM)
ttyl

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:35 AM)
and thanks

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:38 AM)
<3

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:41 AM)
i'll fix background appropriately

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:48 AM)
cya

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:51 AM)
No rush, we know the basics. When you get time :D

Sledge Jackson (Jul 2, 2011 1:35:57 AM)
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Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:37:32 AM)
*Dances Ame*

Ame (Jul 2, 2011 1:40:42 AM)
*Twirls*

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:40:52 AM)
*Clap clap clap*

Smear (Jul 2, 2011 1:53:58 AM)
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Ame (Jul 2, 2011 2:09:24 AM)
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