Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:26:08 AM)
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Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:26:15 AM)
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Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:28:15 AM)
How long have you two been interested in one another?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:29:01 AM)
*His voice is soft and barren from recrimination. There's no accusation there.*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:29:18 AM)
for a bit now.. *he seems a bit tense, as if he is about to be chewed out by the teacher*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:30:34 AM)
Breathe. I will tell what your options are, I'll sympathize with you. I'll even give you my secret, because you're going through the most exquistie torture one of us can feel.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:30:58 AM)
sorry.. its.. i am trying to be careful. so she does nto get in trouble.. i worry not for myself

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:32:08 AM)
Of course..what's the worst they're going to do? Beat you? Kill you? *This is asked neutrally* While they can make her life a living hell. I know this.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:32:42 AM)
It is, sadly, never that simple.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:33:15 AM)
she is more important to the nation then i am.. i know this. I am not speaking as a defeatest or anything. but i will die.. more then likely in battle. and i can not produce an offspring

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:33:38 AM)
And you can't give it to her. *dark laughter* I know. Oh, yes, I know.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:33:58 AM)
*he nods*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:34:41 AM)
There will be a point of no return. A point where you can't bear to hurt her, and she won't let you leave without doing so.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:35:05 AM)
*h enods*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:35:49 AM)
*Looks at him, solemnly* You're already there, aren't you?

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:36:17 AM)
i maybe... *he closes his eyes a bit*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:37:25 AM)
There are two schools of thought. One of them may be inheritently selfish.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:37:45 AM)
*he nods and listens*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:38:41 AM)
The first school is you shouldn't be having these thoughts about anyone. You're a freak from birth, a monster, and what is she going to curl up to every night? Someone who can't even go to sleep as a man.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:40:57 AM)
yes. but. things are not always that simple.. Gaia gave us hearts

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:41:18 AM)
The second school is life is too short. She won't give you up, if she's anything like I think she must be to get that idea in her head. You're too damn happy when she's near, so you do what you can.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:43:31 AM)
*he nods and listens*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:43:44 AM)
I do not know how the first school ends.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:44:15 AM)
I can tell you that the second has a number of rewards...you will second guess yourself. All the time.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:44:55 AM)
*Add a but in front of you*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:45:38 AM)
*he nods. knowing how that feels*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:46:20 AM)
You are an Ahroun, yes.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:46:24 AM)
?

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:47:47 AM)
Theurge

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:48:00 AM)
Good. Then you won't try to kill me for asking the question.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:48:30 AM)
Have you two *and he gets a little pink, and his voice noticably drops* made love yet?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:48:50 AM)
*He's pretty ruddy by the end of the question, acutally*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:49:11 AM)
*he stops walking for a moment. thinking how to answer it.. unsure if he should lie or tell the truth.. *

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:49:51 AM)
Maybe before you answer that question, I should tell you something that will very squarely put my life in your hands.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:50:02 AM)
*he nods a bit*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:50:29 AM)
Lacie isn't just my ward. She's my mate, and has been for months.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:51:08 AM)
megan is my lover..

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:51:16 AM)
...Ahh.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:51:32 AM)
it is a more appropriate word.. since i can never be her mate

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:52:13 AM)
I only use it because 'husband' is a clunky thing, and 'lover', while passionate, is inaccurate considering I come home to her each night.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:53:08 AM)
i spend as much time with her as i can.. i think my pack alpha suspects. she knows we like eachother.. but she gave me the same advice as andy did... and that is to be descreet

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:53:17 AM)
I'm well aware we can never be mated in the Garou sense. I've hurt both of us before with that. I would recommend...you do not dwell there much with her.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:54:24 AM)
My pack knows. It was one of the testing points of our relationship as a family.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:55:35 AM)
we do not dwell there.. adn i know Megan as . dated others. to keep the focus off of us..

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:55:35 AM)
Not their love for me, or their judgement...the fact that they keep it a secret too.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:56:10 AM)
Andy's been our 'beard' as the humans call it, and we are not close outside of our house.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:56:29 AM)
tonight .. is the closest we have been around others.. ever

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:57:00 AM)
Keep it that way.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:57:36 AM)
*he nods* i intend too..

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 3:58:09 AM)
The only way you can make it up to her is to give of yourself when you're alone. I wonder often if it's enough.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 3:59:46 AM)
every chance i get ,.. i do something for her..

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:00:07 AM)
Mmm.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:00:22 AM)
The hard part will be allowing yourself to accept the things she does for you.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:00:55 AM)
*he nods.. * in some reguards.. yes

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:01:56 AM)
Oh, and having her not drive you crazy with whatever it is that drives you crazy about her.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:02:59 AM)
it started off simple with us.. we moved from friends to more intimate ... it . i didnt realize fully what had happened.. before it came upon us

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:03:17 AM)
Not quite what I'm talking about, Horus.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:03:20 AM)
*Bemused*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:03:27 AM)
then what?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:03:48 AM)
I'm talking the thing she does to make you nuts. Not about her, just nuts.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:03:56 AM)
*he nods*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:04:40 AM)
And no, I won't be more specific, becaue I'm pretty sure Megan's is different than Lacie's.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:04:55 AM)
i get your drift

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:05:57 AM)
I don't get humans. I lived with them for seven years. Hell, I find one in my fur every morning, and I still don't get them.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:06:40 AM)
i do not understand them either.. then again.. *he sighs* i dont understand the garou half the time.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:07:48 AM)
It will never be fair.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:08:44 AM)
no.. it will not.. and as Metis.. things will be stacked against us.. unfairly.. *he sighs* i wish Andys world was real. things would be so much simpler

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:09:08 AM)
Andy and Tristan, as loath as the second is to admit it.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:09:47 AM)
They are both good men.. ihave only issue with one of their tribe

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:09:59 AM)
Is it that blue haired one?

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:10:12 AM)
Apollo?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:10:21 AM)
I think that's his name?

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:10:32 AM)
or Cookie Monsters Rage

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:10:42 AM)
What is a Cookie Monster?

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:10:43 AM)
(stupidest deed name ever)

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:10:47 AM)
(YES.)

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:11:04 AM)
it is froma childs television show.. called .. what was that.. oh.. Seseme Street.. i believe

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:12:06 AM)
I just got used to the idea of TV. Lacie and Tristan will occassionally make me watch movies or stuff with them. I enjoy it, enough.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:12:39 AM)
i have yet to watch any

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:13:17 AM)
It is an interesting medium. Think of it as Garou storytime, only humans are doing it.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:13:56 AM)
*h enods* but i have issue with him.. because .. he is a fool.. and i can not see how he passed his right of passage

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:14:29 AM)
Homids generally get away with things that would get us killed.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:15:34 AM)
yes. but still

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:17:55 AM)
He's not worth it. Unless he touches your lover.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:18:14 AM)
Then you gleefully remove his hand in the most permanent way possible.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:19:08 AM)
*he sighs* i know megan has been seeing others to take the notice off of us.. it is not something i like.. but i dont know how else to hide

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:19:21 AM)
You won't like it.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:19:54 AM)
what?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:20:00 AM)
Anytime any other man has any claim to her, even if it is for your own good, you won't like it.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:20:04 AM)
I know that one too.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:21:07 AM)
how do you and lacie avoid that?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:21:28 AM)
I...entrusted her with my packmate. It helps.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:21:56 AM)
Note the word 'helps.'

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:22:02 AM)
*he nods* no male pack mates to help me.. and none are black fury..

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:23:54 AM)
I know she doesn't love him in the same way, and I know he'd not do anything to hurt me. It may be different if we have to find a way for her to have children. I still do not know how that's going to work, but I want her to have something...

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:25:06 AM)
This gets complicated quickly. And yet, I'd continue to know she's in the guest house, waiting for me.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:25:08 AM)
i understand.. i encourage megan to seek out a man . worthy of her.. that can give her what i can not

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:25:48 AM)
Yeah. That will not work. Not if you spin it as a permanent thing.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:28:00 AM)
unless i can find a male that knows about us. and mates her.. and is ok with us.. as well.. i dont have any other option

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:28:25 AM)
I know. Enjoy her.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:28:43 AM)
i am .. i cherish every minute we spend together

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:29:49 AM)
Oh, some related unrelated advice...

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:30:01 AM)
*he looks to Axe*

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:30:03 AM)
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Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:31:04 AM)
Do yourself a favor. Unless you're absolutely, positively sure you're under control...avoid...*reddens* relations near the full of Luna's cycle.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:31:39 AM)
*he nods* i will note that

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:32:33 AM)
I sincerely hope I've not embrassed you or made you feel awkward...tonight. You seemed to need it.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:32:33 AM)
*Lacie wandered out of the guest house, heading towards the main house. She was in her space alien PJ bottoms and a little green vest, her hair pulled back from her face and a little form over those pretty little featuresI*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:33:06 AM)
*Is somewhere near the garden/koi pond.*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:33:47 AM)
trust me.. it takes alot to do such to me.. *is pretty damn wet from falling into said pond*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:34:14 AM)
Humiliation is one thing our breed handles well.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:35:41 AM)
*She had to walk passed the pond to get into the back of the house, so rounding the corner Lacie took several steps before she came to a stop, her arms wraped around her waist and her still half asleep eyes flicking back and forth between Axe and ... someone she recognised, but couldn't remember at this time*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:35:46 AM)
Regardless, you are not alone.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:36:09 AM)
*he nods and looks to Lacie*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:36:25 AM)
That being said, out of the thousands of us left, we may be the only TWO with that problem, but you're not alone.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:36:35 AM)
*Hasn't noticed his ward yet.*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:36:43 AM)
Hello Lacie *he says*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:37:15 AM)
*He turns, smiles at her, and says softly* You shouldn't be up..

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:38:29 AM)
*She raised her hand a little, giving Horus a little wave, before she shuffled over to Axe and sat at his feet with her head on his knee* I had a bad dream again..... *She wipped her eyes on the back of her hand and shivered a little*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:39:04 AM)
*Puts his arms around her*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:39:47 AM)
i should leave you two alone

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:39:51 AM)
I'll give you one of Tristan's special brownies, it'll mellow you out and make you sleepy.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:40:56 AM)
*She looked at Horus and smiled* It's ok.... I was rude and gate crashed whatever you were talking about. *She looked up at Axe, wrinkling her nose a little* I'm sleepy anyway... *Then smiled some more*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:41:01 AM)
*Considers and nods to Horus* We never had this conversation. I will not invite you over for tea sometime due to your aversion to alcohol and we will not compare notes. Also, Megan is not invited to get to know Lacie a bit better.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:41:55 AM)
I do promise no pot brownies, howver.

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:42:10 AM)
this conversation has never happened.. adn i will not tell megan that she cant, if she chooses to.. but what was said here.. will not leave my lips. To anybody

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:43:32 AM)
Good. Go get your girl and bother Andy and Serenity, I'm sure they're being...disguisting. *small grin*

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:44:11 AM)
some things never change. *he nods and starts to walk off*

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:44:15 AM)
*She looked between the two of them with a little frown, before whispering up at Axe* What did I miss?

Horus Alexander (Aug 10, 2010 4:44:32 AM)
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Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:44:43 AM)
*Waits until Horus is in the Packhouse*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:45:09 AM)
That was Horus...a metis of the Striders.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:45:37 AM)
He's in love with Megan, a Child of Gaia Kinfolk. They are together.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:46:09 AM)
Ooooh. *She nodded her head a little and smiled softly* Good.... *She leant up and kissed his cheek* Everyone should be as happy as us....

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:46:59 AM)
Anyhow, I was telling him of something the things he might have to deal with.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:47:35 AM)
Also, about us.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:48:56 AM)
Oooh.... Ok. *She nodded her head and frowned a little* Hans seems to know to.... *She pushed a lock of hair behind her ear* But, I've never told him. He promised he wouldn't saying anything to anyone, I trust him enough, but I thought you should know....

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:49:24 AM)
Hans is Thomas of the Silver Fangs...formerly of Magid.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:49:52 AM)
*She nodded her head a little* I know that..... I had a heart attack about it not long ago

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:50:01 AM)
He's also not dumb.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:51:35 AM)
I'm not worried about it. He's Ahroun, and a Fang, and thus, tend to be honorable.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:51:49 AM)
I dont' know if I'll let Tristan know that Hans knows.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:52:29 AM)
I will have to let him know that Horus knows, however, since he may be around a bit more.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:53:12 AM)
*She nodded her head again and looked towards the house as she slipped into his lap* He wouldn't hurt us..... *She smiled softly and kissed his cheek as she wrapped her arms over his shoulders and nuzzled to his neck* I don't think Horus would either

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:54:58 AM)
Horus would receive the same kind of punishment I would, and he has the same concerns for Megan. No, not to say I don't trust him without it, but the fact that we hold the other's secret ensures that neither one of us will be telling anyone outside of our signfanct others and our packs.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:56:41 AM)
*She nodded her head as she held him protectively again, her eyes closed and head against his shoulder* So.... Did I miss a party?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:57:04 AM)
If it was really concerned, I'd be afraid of Thomas. I don't have anything about the Fang that keeps that secret safe. I'm going to have to trust his honor. *chuckles* You did. Shades of Grey is over, sharing brownies with us.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:58:12 AM)
Who's shades of grey? *She gave a little yawn, shivering again and holding onto her walking Radiator a little tighter*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:58:25 AM)
New pack, under Owl.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:58:54 AM)
Sarah's the alpha. I think you remember Talisman Seeker?

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 4:59:05 AM)
Oh, ok.... I don't think I've met any of them yet. Were they nice? Oh! Sarah... Ok, yeah I know now

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 4:59:39 AM)
Creepy Uktena Ragabash...*amused*

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:00:13 AM)
*She giggled and nodded her head* Yes, I know

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:00:23 AM)
Also, Serenity just broke Andy's nose again.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:01:05 AM)
*She blinked and sat up a little* She.... Ugh, I give up with that girl some times.... *She looked towards the house, somewhat concerned* He ok?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:01:42 AM)
He's a Garou. Regeneration, love.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:02:29 AM)
Glabro. Takes maybe...ten seconds.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:03:55 AM)
I'm slightly hinting that he likes her maybe more than having more than one woman in his bed. I continue to try, I don't think he gets it.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:03:59 AM)
*She looked to him with a canted head* Not the point.... I still love you all.... *She kissed him softly on the lips before curling up tightly to him again* Still my Boys and Girls, I still worry about you constantly and where you are. If your safe.... I'm like their mother.... *She kissed his neck again softly* And I hope to one day be your wife.... So I have -every- right to worry.... *She poked his chest softly, but as if to make a point* Weather you like it or not....

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:05:02 AM)
You look radiant tonight.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:05:14 AM)
*Says that sincerely.*

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:06:29 AM)
*She smiled softly as she reached up and caressed his cheek with a content sigh* I'd love to say something witty.... But instead I'm going to say thank you. You looked quite breath taking yourself.... *She tenderly caressed hiss cheek with a smile*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:08:21 AM)
*Kisses her hand*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:10:15 AM)
Shall I tuck you in?

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:10:54 AM)
*She smiled to him, gently kissing his cheek* How have you been anyways? I've been so busy with school and other stuff.... I've missed you.... *At the offer of being tucked in, she wrapped her arms around his neck, perhaps expecting to be carrried* That would be lovely

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:11:26 AM)
*Carries her* I've been fine. Rescued a large gator...thing.

Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:12:23 AM)
.... Oh. Ok. *She frowned a little* Well I'm glad your ok.... I really have missed you... *She blushed a little* I thought you'd gone off me, didn't wanna be around anymore.... You know?

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:12:44 AM)
*Kisses her deeply* Never.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM)
I still occupy your bed, but we keep missing each other.

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:14:56 AM)
*Opens the door with his foot, making his way to their bedroom*

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:15:16 AM)
(Change rooms, same pw as the Packhouse)

Axe-In-Keyboard (Aug 10, 2010 5:15:37 AM)
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Lacie Redford (Aug 10, 2010 5:15:42 AM)
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