Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:31:49 PM)
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Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:32:06 PM)
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Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:32:11 PM)
*dances*

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:32:18 PM)
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Marius Dvorak (Jul 27, 2010 10:32:18 PM)
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Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:33:01 PM)
Ok, anyone have particular group they are wanting to form with?

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:33:24 PM)
Not yet, I don't know people well enough *smile* Seems like a good thing to talk about IC, too

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:33:44 PM)
For the moment, I'm ok with you guys because we seem to be on at the same time in the evening and none of you are dicks. At least, you haven't been yet

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:04 PM)
I'm a king dick, ask Steven and Marius

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:05 PM)
:P

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:15 PM)
Steven should clearly be alpha, however, as he is the prettiest

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:25 PM)
Whoa

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:27 PM)
No way

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:35 PM)
Steven is no Alpha material

Marius Dvorak (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:40 PM)
Irl at least. online Lucian is just a douche

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:54 PM)
Says the guy who's never online.

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:34:56 PM)
lol

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:35:02 PM)
Ok, more seriously, why crow?

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:35:21 PM)
*shrugs* Seems to be fitting. Give me a sec to bring up my books

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:35:26 PM)
Ok, Im gonna precide this metting.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:35:42 PM)
http://www.arsimagica.net/~eccles/roleplaying/werewolf/totems/war.html

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:35:54 PM)
Background Cost: 2 Followers of Crow, like most scavengers, trust the strong to do their killing for them. To survive, they follow oppurtunity, and they excel at finding it. Once they find powerful allies, however they will patiently and loyally support them. Servants of Crow are typically humble, but if they are betrayed, they never forget the offense. A Crow who has been betrayed will seek out more powerful allies to carry out retribution or go about his or her revenge with remarkable subtlety. Traits Crow teaches his followers Alertness 2, Subterfuge 2 and Etiquette 1. Ban Crow asks that his children remain loyal to those whom they serve. Some children extend this to tribal loyalty, while others will interpret this as fanatic affection or loyalty to an individual.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:36:15 PM)
First, Im pretty sure Marius, Lucian, Luke, and myself will be a pack. If anyone else joins, thats fine by me.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:36:25 PM)
I'm not sure how well it fits Wilhelm, is all. Though Alertness and Stuberfuge would be very useful to him

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:37:34 PM)
Wilhelm likes what he has seen of Steven and Marius so far. He'd be open to forming a pack with them

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:37:57 PM)
Yeah that would make us one of each auspice.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:38:25 PM)
I can't lead a pack since Im STing though

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:38:46 PM)
No problem. I was kidding about baseing leadership on who is prettiest

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:38:50 PM)
I've already said I'd be willing to Alpha. I'm on fairly often, and will be on more often after my girl leaves for college in like, 3 weeks.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:39:02 PM)
And traditionally Theurges lead Lord packs

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:39:08 PM)
*Nods* Wilhelm would challange anyone that wants to be leader

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:39:55 PM)
If they are clever or strong enough to win, he will respect and follow them. If they aren't, he will be alpha until someone clever and strong enough replaces him. He'd probely lean hard on Lucian or another person to help him guideing the pack though

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:39:56 PM)
I promise though, Steven will make sure to exploit any weaknesses that the alpha shows.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:40:31 PM)
That's how Lords are.. Follow the alpha until he's incapable for the job

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:40:57 PM)
*shrugs* If you'd prefer to be alpha, you can have it. I'm not super familer with the system yet, anywho.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:41:02 PM)
No offence Wil, Steven here things Ahrouns are a bit to ragey to make successful alphas.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:41:07 PM)
That's how wolves are. I used to shock people by playing a Child of Gaia like that

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:41:42 PM)
Will isn't trying to kick ass and be the leader, just letting you know that he will make sure the leader can prove himself

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:42:37 PM)
Wilhelm's skill-set has some big holes, and he has some clear weaknesses. A shadow lord shouden't have any problem winning when he gets to choose the form of the challange, as the defending party

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:42:42 PM)
that's how we should all be.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:42:56 PM)
Id rather not make a war pack

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:43:16 PM)
me either.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:43:44 PM)
Wisdom, maybe? That or respect comes to mind

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:09 PM)
Crow may be a war totem, but it seems to be more inclined towards information and secrecy than anything else.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:10 PM)
Cunning. *nods*

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:15 PM)
yeah

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:20 PM)
thats why I like crow

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:40 PM)
Yeah, but the idea of a humble Shadow Lor dpack blows my mind a little

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:49 PM)
humble?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:51 PM)
Hardly

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:44:58 PM)
Recon might be a better word.

Marius Dvorak (Jul 27, 2010 10:45:23 PM)
Sorry guys, eating right now. don't want to grease up my keyboard

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:45:34 PM)
The Crow write-up makes them seem like a poor fit. The need to loyaly serve is an odd ban

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:45:35 PM)
the second pack will definately be a war pack im sure

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:46:30 PM)
We could go with Pegasus to be different. It would make it hard to work with Get of Fenris, but would make it easier for them to work with Furies, and the ban would be a fun thing to force on a bunch of scary manuplative bastards

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:46:36 PM)
Odd, but could be entertaining to RP.

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:46:43 PM)
What is the ban for Peg?

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:46:48 PM)
I kinda like Bat, actually.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:46:54 PM)
Pegasus Backound Cost: 4 Although this totem is associated with the Black Furies, it is also known for the power in its wings and the nobility it exudes. Pegasus is chiefly concerned with sacred places, ever seeking to protect them. Because of the feud between the Get of Fenris and the Black Furies, Pegasus will not adopt a pack that has a Get in it. Pegasus is often represented as a black, winged horse with fiery eyes. It controls the element of Air and can teach its Children Gifts associated with travel and air. Traits Packs chosen by Pegasus can call upon an extra three Willpower points per story, and gain +3 to an Animal Ken Dice Pool. Each pack member gains two points of Honor. Black Furies will always be well disposed toward them. Ban Children of Pegasus must always aid females of all species, especially young females.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:46:56 PM)
Until you get to renown

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:47:05 PM)
Bat sucks

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:47:26 PM)
What's GT?

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:47:54 PM)
GT?

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:47:55 PM)
Bat is great. Just harsh.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:48:12 PM)
Grandfather Thunder

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:48:44 PM)
Grandfather Thunder Backound Cost: 8 "Thunder rules with a first of Iron and a voice of Silk" is the ancient adage. Thunder is more feared than respected, yet his place among the Totems of Respect is secure. His Stormcrows have eyes everywhere, and he rarely chooses a pack on his own. Instead of relegating a totem avatar to the pack, he sends on of his Stormcrows to tend to his Children. Thunder teaches patience, ingenuity, subtlety and strategy to those he chooses. Traits Packs chosen by Thunder can call upon an extra five Willpower points per story, and gain +3 to an Etiquette Dice Pool. Very few people will trust them, but pack members can gain +2 to an Intimidation Dice Pool by invoking Thunder. Each pack member gains one point of Honour. Shadow Lords will want to know what packs of Grandfather Thunder are doing at all times. Ban Children of Thunder usually do not tell the truth to those they do not respect. They never respect those whom they dominate.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:49:25 PM)
Expensive, to start. Especaly for bonuses to etiqutte. The ban is fuzzly worded enough not to be a real problem though

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:49:26 PM)
Bat I don't like.. Renown penalties are ok in TT, but suck ass online

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:49:46 PM)
I say Crow or Thunder personally

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:49:48 PM)
I don't think Wilhelm would be crazy about a fallen totem of a race the shadow lords exterminated

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:02 PM)
I can't imagine bat would be crazy about them, either

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:12 PM)
Not to mention that other Lord pack is going Bat I think

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:20 PM)
Rev book has him at 7, btw

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:34 PM)
Ahh, well that isn't quite as bad

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:43 PM)
Ban is worded differently, as well

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:48 PM)
I'd only want Pegasis to be different, I'm fine with Grandfather Thunder

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:50:57 PM)
I say GT or Crow.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:51:20 PM)
GT in revised is to give people no more respect then they deserve

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:51:34 PM)
perfect wording for me

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:51:43 PM)
Yuri gets none

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:51:57 PM)
LOL

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:01 PM)
>.>

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:04 PM)
*Laughs*

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:17 PM)
But nah... GT would make the best choice I think.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:25 PM)
I'm fine with GT, but would prefer Pegasis.

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:30 PM)
Coyote could be fun...:D

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:40 PM)
We can't take Coyote

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:41 PM)
Lucian dosn't get to vote

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:42 PM)
I'm just browsing through

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:46 PM)
why can't we?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:51 PM)
There's already 3 packs with Coyote

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:56 PM)
WTF

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:52:58 PM)
alright

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:00 PM)
forget that

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:03 PM)
yeah

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:12 PM)
I was only kidding anyway

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:19 PM)
I say Thunder mainly cuz of the tribal clout we'd have

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:25 PM)
*shrugs*

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:30 PM)
GT seems so...I dunno

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:31 PM)
If we were going war, Boar is the boreing but pratical choice

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:32 PM)
stereotypical

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:36 PM)
*nods*

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:41 PM)
We have Boar in our TT game

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:41 PM)
There's already 2 boar packs

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:46 PM)
online

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:53:52 PM)
Also, I meant forget that to coyote, not to you Wil

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:01 PM)
That isn't too supriseing

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:10 PM)
Boar's cheap for a huge bonus

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:18 PM)
yeah

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:27 PM)
Id rather go with Crow or GT myself.

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:38 PM)
Only cuz of us being a single tribe

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:52 PM)
Tribal Totems make the most sence

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:54:58 PM)
Scene in 5

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:55:18 PM)
Humm?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:55:33 PM)
Ghostlin's scene starts in 5 minutes

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:55:52 PM)
Well...What about Chameleon?

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:55:59 PM)
Oh, should we be there? What's it about?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:56:10 PM)
we should

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:56:20 PM)
eventually

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:56:38 PM)
not yet

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:56:40 PM)
Chamelion is pratical and wuold give the pack an odd touch

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:56:45 PM)
he's finishing up

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:02 PM)
well lets get a pack purpose first

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:08 PM)
and who's all joining

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:17 PM)
Then we'll talk totem later

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:18 PM)
Chameleon also represents everything I've done IC so far

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:25 PM)
Book?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:30 PM)
or link

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:33 PM)
Players Guide to Garou

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:41 PM)
Chameleon Background Cost: 4 Chameleon is the ultimate adaptor. He changes himself to fit in with his environment, and his eyes see everything around him. Chameleon is usually favoured by Garou who prefer to observe and learn unobtrusively. Traits Chameleon teaches his Children the Gift: Blur of the Milky Eye and grants them three points of Perception. Ban Chameleon's Children must always observe their surroundings before acting.

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:50 PM)
May be out of date, but close enough for now

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:57:56 PM)
works for me

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:58:20 PM)
Page 139

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:58:21 PM)
I still like thunder the most

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:58:43 PM)
time to go

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:58:44 PM)
That post made no sense to me

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:01 PM)
So, how would we be getting there, and what's going on?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:02 PM)
it's about an forum post

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:05 PM)
What room do we go there?

Lucian Grevioux (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:09 PM)
do we go to?

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:10 PM)
I have computer 2

Steven Vincent (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:18 PM)
so I'll take you guys with me

Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:24 PM)
Sure, alright

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Wilhelm Faust (Jul 27, 2010 10:59:36 PM)
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