Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:04:51 AM)
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Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:06:57 AM)
Mhmm.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:07:07 AM)
She's trying to email me some screenshots.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:07:14 AM)
I'm talking to her in a PM atm.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:07:35 AM)
I guess we won't be talking then.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:07:40 AM)
She's coming..
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:07:49 AM)
Let me know when she feels like it.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:07:53 AM)
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Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:10:11 AM)
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Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:14:37 AM)
Thank you Inez, I'm checking my mail now. ^_^
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:15:29 AM)
/lagcheck.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:16:02 AM)
If I post a lot of ... I'm not impatient. I get lagged if I don't keep really, really active.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:17:59 AM)
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Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:18:22 AM)
Not a problem.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:18:42 AM)
Am I still "redlined" as she passive-aggressively shot at me?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:18:49 AM)
Makes dialogue a little... one-sided.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:18:54 AM)
..
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:19:32 AM)
And the two-quarters of an ellipsis doesn't really indicate either way for me.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:19:33 AM)
Alright, I read through the log and screenshots from you both.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:20:11 AM)
Michael requested a mediator, and Roslyn has requested an iron curtain.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:20:23 AM)
"An iron curtain"?
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:21:30 AM)
Non-communication between the two of you, whomever contacts the other first earns a warning.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:22:54 AM)
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Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:22:58 AM)
He was ghosting.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:23:10 AM)
I'll redline him again when he comes back.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:23:11 AM)
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Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:23:34 AM)
Apologies, flickery connection. So, I was asking after clarification for two things...?
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:23:37 AM)
Iron curtain = Non communication between the two of you. First one to violate it gets a site warning.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:23:44 AM)
Didn't see a second question.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:24:01 AM)
I see. So, you're disregarding my request.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:24:06 AM)
No I'm not.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:24:09 AM)
I will be pleased to do so. IC and OOC.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:24:37 AM)
I could've sworn I asked you to organize a talk between her and I and mediate in case things got out of control.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:25:00 AM)
And I am attempting to get her to take you off ignore, so that such a thing is possible.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:25:40 AM)
Alright. Forget talking calmly.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:25:54 AM)
Michael, please give me a moment.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:26:00 AM)
I want her to stop posting bigoted comments in the OOC.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:26:14 AM)
Her attacks a few evenings ago against the US Military? Those too.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:26:44 AM)
The constant laughing references to her "recreational" substance use in the OOC? That too, as a violation of chat terms, I'd like stopped.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:26:47 AM)
In essence?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:26:55 AM)
I want her to follow the rules of the site.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:28:45 AM)
What was the date of the comments regarding illegal drug use?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:29:41 AM)
I don't recall. A few days ago, likely around the weekend. Ctrl+F her Mage name and "drugs".
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:31:08 AM)
Further, while she's admitting to knowing who I was while she was incognito in a new skin in a venue she's sworn not to play in... I can't PROVE that her attacks against the Scottish were an attack against my wife, even though it's perfectly in line with her character and she's well aware of Teresa's pride in her heritage and how I respond to those sorts of attacks...
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:32:21 AM)
I should hope further "veiled" attacks are considered part of this. As my making comments about "Armenian Canadians eating roadkill" would not necessarily be about her, but we'd both be aware of that not quite being about someone else.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:33:37 AM)
Alright, I'll check the logs for this weekend, but it won't happen right now.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:33:44 AM)
Since I'm talking to you both here.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:34:08 AM)
Clearly, the two of you have an impressive history.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:36:30 AM)
I don't particularly see a need to involve myself in it, nor do I have a right to. I'm an admin, not a psychologist. Michael, are you content to let this lie and never speak to her again or do you seek further redress for the OOC comments?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:36:59 AM)
Further redress.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:37:38 AM)
Were it anyone who I didn't have over a decade of experience to know that things will only get worse... I'd be inclined to drop it. You know I tend to shy away from Warnings or punishments of any sorts for players.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:38:43 AM)
But years of repeated failure has forced experience on me that she won't. And while I could conceivably leave and return to her being banned or quit in a month... I don't feel I should have to avoid the game in the meantime.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:40:26 AM)
Alright, Iv'e got an official complaint from each of you then, regarding the other. I am not the snap decision sort, I will sit down and review all this once I don't have you each at the other's throat. So for the meantime, I want the two of you to stay away from each other.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:40:54 AM)
Oh? Well. Clearly her racist comments and PM harrassment toward me is where my complaint is from. May I ask what I'm being complained over?
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:42:14 AM)
She is citing the accusation of her drug use, along with a stream of OOC abuse in PMs. So don't speak with one another at all while I review all this--Can you each agree to that much while I figure out who gets warnings and why?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:42:47 AM)
"Accusation of her drug use"?
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:43:21 AM)
I have made it clear I will be perfectly content not to interact with him again. I will redline any login of his I am aware of, immediately. If you ever see me speak a word to him IC or OOC, it will be because I do not in fact know it is him.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:43:33 AM)
And for my part, I have Inez, Aneas, and Marie-Claude.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:43:39 AM)
No, she'll make passive aggressive shots at me in the third person.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:43:45 AM)
"Accusing someone of drug use publicly, or at the least implying it" is the direct quote.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:43:46 AM)
So he will have no confusion or excuse.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:43:50 AM)
Like sudden and curious shots against my wife's ethnicity.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:44:02 AM)
Is there any evidence of that?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:45:02 AM)
Or is this one of those "I'm requesting a Warning for him for requesting a Warning against me!" type deals?
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:45:20 AM)
So far, I have seen your comment in the OOC about her "coming down" and the accusations here that she openly discussed her RL drug use in the OOC. And I can see her claim that the Scottish have a word for roadkill cuisine in the OOC room.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:45:49 AM)
Whoa. I have a screenshot there too. You mean my comment that wasn't directed at her and was made when I didn't even know who she was, as the screenshots support?
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:46:17 AM)
Correctly they have a culinary term for roadkill.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:46:31 AM)
Specifically, dead sheep. It's Praxie.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:46:38 AM)
That is what she's complaining about. I am not saying either of you are in the Right. Michael, will you avoid contact with her and her PC skins while I dig through this?
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:47:39 AM)
On that score by the way, I have only my Scottish relations to trust on that. It's possible one of them was pulling my leg, in which case I will stand guilty as being misinformed.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:47:57 AM)
Amazing how your ethnicity changes depending on who you're insulting at the moment.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:48:13 AM)
Oh, wait.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:48:14 AM)
http://www.hingstons.co.uk/law/issue7.shtml
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:48:27 AM)
That took not so long. Scottish law on who roadkill belongs to.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:48:45 AM)
I guess I was correctly informed.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:02 AM)
Wow.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:06 AM)
You're really...
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:20 AM)
You're claiming based on some fringe redneck minority that all Scottish people...
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:21 AM)
Okay. Inez, stop please.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:22 AM)
Y'know.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:25 AM)
This is what I mean.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:36 AM)
She doesn't even see why labeling all Scottish people as eating Roadkill is offensive.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:49:50 AM)
Whatever core and fundemental thing that puts boundaries on people is just... missing here.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:50:40 AM)
There's a law about what happens to deer hit by cars...
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:50:42 AM)
And Ethan, will you agree to avoid her OOC login and PCs while I go through all this with a fine-toothed comb and the ToS in front of me?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:50:46 AM)
And Scottish people eat roadkill.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:51:10 AM)
I wonder though if I could find a similar law about Canadians? Americans? Armenians?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:51:23 AM)
Dastai.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:51:32 AM)
The issue here isn't direct confrontation.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:51:38 AM)
It's her sniping indirect attacks.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:51:48 AM)
And her knowledge that when she makes them?
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:51:52 AM)
I can no longer ask her to stop.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:52:05 AM)
Because that's direct contact.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:52:21 AM)
Like her spiels about the US Military when I happen to log in.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:52:32 AM)
Or the Scottish.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:52:46 AM)
Alright, then Inez, will you agree to stop making indirect comments about Michael or his wife? Ethnicity or otherwise? At least until I can get you each a decision?
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:52:59 AM)
I have made no such comments on this chat.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:53:02 AM)
Ever.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:53:11 AM)
I want to be able to reserve the right to ask her to stop talking about something and her to just drop it.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:53:20 AM)
If that can be observed? Absolutely. We can avoid one another.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:53:26 AM)
With the possible exception of telling someone tonight that he is being abusive. That would be the Demon whose scene with he ruined.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:54:01 AM)
So if he is claiming any such, he'd best bring screenshots, or that's just more lies.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:54:12 AM)
They're in the screenshots.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:54:31 AM)
I can bring two witnesses in for the Military comments too.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:55:29 AM)
As there was quite an angry series of PMs being sent back and forth between myself and some of the other US Military in the roon.
Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 6:55:33 AM)
room, pardon.
Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 6:56:47 AM)
Fine. The two of you can't stop sniping at each other even now. So here is the new deal: You both quit talking to each other, in PMs or otherwise. Neither of you is welcome to linger in the OOC room, you may each create a Seperate one when you are not IC. The first one who fails to abide by these rules is given a site warning, and I will FPM you both my decision on the issues raised before Midnight GMT+1. Thank you. Get out.
Inez Archuleta (Aug 18, 2011 6:57:26 AM)
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Dastai (Aug 18, 2011 7:12:41 AM)
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Ethan Price (Aug 18, 2011 7:20:56 AM)
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