Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:15:08 AM)
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Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:15:15 AM)
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Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:15:23 AM)
It's about Lukas' Fostern challenge.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:15:41 AM)
Bastian which ST did you go to for that challenge?
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:16:35 AM)
I didn't. ALready told you that in the PM.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:16:51 AM)
I posted to my renown thread after the RoA.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:17:32 AM)
As Lars is dead, I figured it would be left to Lukas ICly to figure it out on his own, so I went the traditional route and Challenged a Fostern of my Tribe.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:17:37 AM)
I did not. Since Fenrir have the Rite of War for their Ahroun anyway that they have to do to get to Fostern, I just did the challenge to see if he was ready for it. Since last time Lukas got Mopped by Bastian.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:17:42 AM)
Nah if a PC is challenged they are supposed to get with a ST (not a narrator) over any rank challenge.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:17:57 AM)
He can go to you, but the challenge needs to be approved by an ST.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:20:48 AM)
You are a full ST, Zhaed?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:20:55 AM)
Yep
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:21:01 AM)
YOu got me or Saphirra.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:21:11 AM)
But the Team needs to review it.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:21:25 AM)
Lukas went to the ONLY Fenrir Fostern outside his own pack. *nods*
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:21:52 AM)
You do know you don't have to stay at Shared blood to do a challenge for rank right?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:22:25 AM)
and there's still an Athro GoF floating around somewhere.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:22:39 AM)
There is?
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:22:51 AM)
You mentinoed that.. but as I said, I was trying to do something with the PCs here, instead of requiring an ST to run a personal scene. And given that Bastian had trounced Lukas for his own Fostern challenge, I figured it was a good match.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:22:58 AM)
yep
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:23:03 AM)
Who?
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:23:23 AM)
And.. have they been online in the past 3 months? lol
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:23:51 AM)
Can I ask a question?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:24:26 AM)
Blood Tongue
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:24:44 AM)
Yuta Kreiger
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:24:46 AM)
NPC
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:25:09 AM)
though technically not a member of Shared blood. or else Lars would have ceeded control to her.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:25:21 AM)
So that'll be a no, on whether they've been online in the past 3 months. Lukas doesn't know IC that they exist.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:25:50 AM)
Im just saying there's others around.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:25:53 AM)
OOC, I didn't realize I needed to notify an ST ahead of time. I'm sorry.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:25:59 AM)
yeah.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:26:21 AM)
IC.. Lukas' actions make sense to me, and I'm not sure where there's an issue, or if there is one.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:26:25 AM)
actually Bastian needed to notify us if the challenge he had was acceptable.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:26:38 AM)
And I do understand I have to get the Rite.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:26:48 AM)
Im quite fine with Lukas challenging bastian.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:26:52 AM)
Very cool. I did not know we had anyone other than Lars. I've never seen anything about her... But, my question is this. Obviously we went around it the wrong way. But, is the challenge sufficient? Bastian had never been beaten in single unarmed combat by any Ahroun. So a lupus fight with no gifts or rage for a Tribesman that he has a kinship with, seems a fair and brutal Fenrir challenge.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:27:13 AM)
never been beaten.. rather.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:27:50 AM)
The challenge itself is actually supposted to be a test of the characters strength.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:28:06 AM)
And..for the record, Lukas didn't use his Numen. He made it as equal as possible.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:28:15 AM)
And at least to me... that one seems a bit easier than the Rite of War.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:28:27 AM)
Where he has to fight 2 Fenrir at once.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:28:45 AM)
No holds barred and usually one having silver.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:29:08 AM)
Silver is only used in hardcore Septs.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:29:09 AM)
Certainly seems easier than that.. yes.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:29:36 AM)
But you don't have to win the Rite of War... just fight valiantly.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:29:46 AM)
yeah of course.
Alice Grey (Nov 24, 2010 12:30:33 AM)
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Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:30:35 AM)
Im just thinking that seems a bit week myself... but it might just be me, so I'll talk it with the staff.
Alice Grey (Nov 24, 2010 12:30:39 AM)
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Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:30:39 AM)
And Bastian told Lukas to see Anna for the Rite of War. He can't challenge her and she is the only one that knows the Rite.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:31:06 AM)
Think of it as a stepping stone to the Rite.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:31:21 AM)
It could be..
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:31:30 AM)
But the rite isn't the challenge itself.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:32:19 AM)
But I'll seriously talk to the staff.. It could be just me.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:32:29 AM)
And they might be cool with it.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:32:35 AM)
Lets put it this way... Lukas or Bastian realisticly could have died in that challenge.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:32:47 AM)
Yeah I get that..
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:32:47 AM)
If you're not cool with it.. what do you propose?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:33:02 AM)
But that's part of Modi challenges.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:33:10 AM)
And Bastian would know that.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:33:13 AM)
Do I need to schedule a scene with an ST to travel to another sept and see if I can find a Fostern Modi to challenge?
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:33:13 AM)
They both have 10 dice to bite in lupus and do agg... They were an even match... Lukas just rolled REALLY well.. and I sucked eggs.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:34:12 AM)
But let me hit up the Staff real quick.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:34:26 AM)
Cool beans.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:34:43 AM)
I mean given Wilhelm's challenge, and he's not even GoF.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:35:02 AM)
He is a ShL... He has to prove himself more.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:35:14 AM)
Hardly...
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:35:36 AM)
GoF Adren challenges are supposed to be the hardest period.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:35:45 AM)
err
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:35:48 AM)
This is Fostern
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:35:50 AM)
Ahroun not Adren
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:36:31 AM)
Look, I'm not trying for the easy way out. I challenged Bastian because he beat the shit out of Lukas on his challenge and I figured it'd be a tough fight. I could have asked around for another Ahroun instead of keeping it in Tribe.. that was a character driven choice.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:36:40 AM)
I get that..
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:37:52 AM)
but the issue is this.... the challenge is supposed to be approved by the staff... it wasn't.. When found out, the active staff (which is me) isn't to happy with the challenge but Im willing to get a ruling on it from everyone else.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:38:07 AM)
So Im trying to clear this up.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:38:56 AM)
It's fine, Zhaed. I'm wiling to abide by your call that it's worthless and go do something else. Either way. I'll just..wait for the verdict, I guess.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:39:27 AM)
im not saying it's worthless.. justs seems a little on the soft side. that's all.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:40:27 AM)
what are your guys Forum names?
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:40:31 AM)
Dastai
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:41:04 AM)
Geoffh
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:49:43 AM)
.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:50:02 AM)
ok
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:50:21 AM)
I sent a FPM to the staff as well as you two so you can read it.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:51:05 AM)
But we'll get this cleared up as soon as we get a responce.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:52:32 AM)
Please send another?
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:52:42 AM)
Saying that I already agreed to abide by your call? Because I have.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:52:51 AM)
Cool beans.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:53:27 AM)
I am fine with you calling it a wash and staring over, Zhaed. I fucked up and didn't notify an ST, I didn't realize I needed to, and I have apologized. I'll take the blame and start over.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:54:36 AM)
I let the rest of the staff know and give their opinions on that.
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:54:43 AM)
Thank you.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:54:50 AM)
I also let them know to reply to the team and you guys as well.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:54:59 AM)
Cool... Awesome...
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:55:22 AM)
SOrry you got dragged into this Bastian.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 12:55:43 AM)
Like I said I might be off I think it's a bit week.sure
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 12:57:06 AM)
Hey Z... I got a totally random question for you. I put in a request to get a out of tribe gift... (Lunas Armor) it is taught by a lune. But, the totem Flea also gives this Gift to his packs. Can you approach Flea instead of teh Lunes or only the lunes?
Lukas Vangelis (Nov 24, 2010 12:57:43 AM)
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Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:03:09 AM)
I know flea gives the gift to his packs.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:04:24 AM)
I was not sure if he could teach it to non-packed garou though. Buddy of mine said it would be like teaching from Garou to Garou...
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:04:41 AM)
but he doesn't teach the gift... I dunno... I tend to stick with what the book says as far as teachers go.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:05:00 AM)
Lunes however usually work with with all garou usually.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:05:28 AM)
That's cool. I am just bad at Chiminage. So I am trying to think of something.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:08:15 AM)
Have him find a spiral and bring it down one on one. Any gift or abilitys are acceptable.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:08:49 AM)
For Chiminage, or Lukas' challenge?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:09:00 AM)
oh for the challenge
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:10:45 AM)
Retcon the original fight?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:13:59 AM)
Im still waiting for a few more staff members to comment.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:14:09 AM)
Namely Saphirra and Ghostlin
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:14:28 AM)
No worries.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:19:47 AM)
Ok
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:19:53 AM)
well I heard from Ghostlin..
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:22:10 AM)
He said it was fine with a retcon.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:22:40 AM)
*Check* okay.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:24:00 AM)
But he suggested to have him go find a skull pig, kill it and drag it back. Or fighting and winning 3 of 5 ahroun fights of any tribe and rank. The Gauntlet is always fine for ahroun.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:24:17 AM)
Just to throwing out ideas here.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:25:19 AM)
Cool beans. I like the Skull pigs.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:25:55 AM)
and remember fenrir are usually deadly with their challenges. Probably the only tribe that openly uses agg damage.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:26:09 AM)
they also know when an opponent is beaten.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:26:42 AM)
against other tribes.. it might be a glabro fight full use of rage full gifts.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:27:19 AM)
Yea, that is why we fought in Lupus...
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:27:37 AM)
yeah... but the single fight was what was weak.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:30:51 AM)
*Shrug* I did 9 agg in a single blow in a scene later in the day...
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:31:03 AM)
yeah
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:31:08 AM)
I heard about hat.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:31:24 AM)
It could have been Lukas that got hit like that...
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:31:30 AM)
well come up with something.. I'll run the scene this week so we don't get to far behind.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:34:09 AM)
okay.. well, I am going to head to bed. Hopefully we can get this all sorted by tomorrow.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:36:27 AM)
ok sure thing
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:36:41 AM)
I'll run this pending the Arcadia scene
Ghostlin (Nov 24, 2010 1:39:12 AM)
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Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:39:56 AM)
Yea I think they are trying to get the Arcadia thing on the 2nd or 3rd or something.
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:40:11 AM)
There is a post about it on the pack forums.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:40:16 AM)
I haven't heard about that.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:40:29 AM)
so not tomorrow for Arcadia then?
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:41:00 AM)
http://www.sinful-illusions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=1194&start=30
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:41:55 AM)
I guess not... *sigh* Poor Matt has been scene locked for like months because I thought that we got scene locked when Ambi did the Moon Bridge to nowhere scene.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:42:08 AM)
ian can you be around tomoorw?
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:42:38 AM)
For a bit. I promised the wife to take her to Burlesque tomorrow night.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:42:43 AM)
I told Lukas I'll run the challenge Scene tomorrow at 9 PST
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:42:49 AM)
that to late for you?
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:43:31 AM)
I was going to do it after Arcadia scene tomorrow, but they don't want to do arcadia tomorrow
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:43:55 AM)
that's midnight EST
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:44:10 AM)
It should be fine...
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:44:14 AM)
good
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:44:19 AM)
come up with something good
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:44:32 AM)
Skull pig is fine if that's the route you want to do.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:44:43 AM)
If not, then we can start attacking Ahrouns
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:45:15 AM)
That way Fang daggers can be made for the Sept to Award to worthy recipients or some such.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:45:29 AM)
there you go.
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:45:43 AM)
or some other fetish type thing
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:46:01 AM)
okay, I'm outie!
Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:46:10 AM)
later man and thanks
Bastian Schmitz (Nov 24, 2010 1:47:03 AM)
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Corrupts the Signal (Nov 24, 2010 1:52:24 AM)
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Ghostlin (Nov 24, 2010 1:55:46 AM)
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