Windseeker (Dec 13, 2010 9:00:01 PM)
(This user has entered Meeting with Hilma and other things) (IP = 72.226.66.236)

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:00:07 PM)
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Windseeker (Dec 13, 2010 9:01:19 PM)
(This user is now known as Hilma Ostara)

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:02:04 PM)
*The mistress of the rite is a wizened creole woman, her age masked by sinewy muscle and sun-hardened skin. She favors loose cotton dresses and cowry shell jewelry, her hair contained in an elaborate headwrap. Her walking staff has been known to also serve as a handy weapon, and from it dangles a hand-stitched doll.*

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:02:50 PM)
*She is near the sept sweat lodge, using drying racks to prepare herbs when you see her*

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:03:53 PM)
*eyes would have remebered what little she hadbeen told about the elder and walked over in a quiet and repectful way*" elder sister, grandmother Hilma-rhya"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:04:38 PM)
(you meet her before?))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:05:02 PM)
((yes kinda... she should have))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:05:36 PM)
(( eyes's old elder had traveled a bit and had met hilma and that is why eyes was sent to this sept))

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:06:16 PM)
Greetings Eyes Like the Sky. How do you find Shared Blood? I heard you settled with a pack. This is good.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:07:53 PM)
" It is far differnt and i miss my home very much, but yes i have fuond brothers to run with and thus am blessed"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:08:36 PM)
Do you come simply to talk to an old woman? Or is there something you need? *she adjusts something on the racks*

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:09:41 PM)
" if you have time i would be honoured to speak with you Elder sister Hilma-rhya, as this one wishes to ask a request of you"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:10:18 PM)
Well you can keep wishing, or you can ask. *flicker of a smile*

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:13:20 PM)
" i know in times before middle brother died our tribes were closer then they are now... so what i would wish since at times i still make mistakes is guidenes sand if you'd allow it i would like to learn from you. I wish to be a better garou and learning form an honured and wise elder such as yourself i believe would help me greatly "

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:15:06 PM)
What is it you are asking precisely?

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:16:27 PM)
((there something specific you want to learn here? Rites? Rituals? Cosmology? Certain lores?))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:17:09 PM)
" i wish simplely for guideness, and to learn the common things a theugre should know, rites and gifts common to people born under our moon"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:19:41 PM)
Rites I can teach. Some you may not be ready for as a claith, while there are other rites I could advise you to learn. Spirit knowledge in general is always wise. Now beyond the realms of the cresent moon, how should I guide you Eyes like the Sky? Does something in specific trouble you?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:21:34 PM)
" i am having trouble.. ajusting a bit and there is no elder of my tribe to guide me.. and as much as it shames me...there is not tribeal unity among the wendigo here"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:24:03 PM)
The first thing you must realize is the others are not Wendigo. While we all follow the litany in common, each tribe has there own internal ways. I find it is best to learn of the ways if you can, respect their right to them, and to otherwise stay out of each tribe's internal affairs.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:24:42 PM)
" yes but sometimes it is ... hard for me to see these...lines... "

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:25:03 PM)
Perhaps an example will help me?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:25:40 PM)
" the whole mess with... mark for example.. and his... how the people here say girlfriend kaia"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:26:32 PM)
This Kaia is kinfolk of his tribe?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:26:43 PM)
*nods*" yes.."

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:28:50 PM)
This Mark is Fenrir if I recall. I've seen him once or twice but he hasn't sought me out. What is the problem with this Kaia?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:31:23 PM)
" long story short i acted rashly, and expected certien things, mostly that she be interdouced to people, and the mark and i fought over that he won and made it clear i was not to speak to h till she was his mate... thus when he is with her i do not speak to eather since i can not speak to her and to talk with him unless it's a matte of impotananses is rude to her"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:33:20 PM)
Awkward indeed. Mating is usually a very personal issue, as well as tribal. Is it as simple as you don't like this kinfolk and don't think her worthy of your packmate?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:36:03 PM)
" i don't know her we have never taked that i can remeber, yet even before this mess her guardian and keening sarrow, refused to let me or talk about her with me, and even before that i was asked bt my alpha nad his wife to make sure keening was not... getting too friendly with her"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:43:10 PM)
I do not have the time to sort out the clearly complicated social dynamics of your pack. If they wish you not speak to the girl thats easy enough...don't. As for not speaking to Mark? Foolishness. If you want to speak with him do so. I would not worry about any seeming rudeness to the kinfolk. Afterall you are doing what was asked. I would greet your packmate and treat him as normal. I wouldn't cat feet around him. .....Besides not speaking to your packmate seems an immature act. Or it would be seen as such.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:43:48 PM)
" as you say elder"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:45:19 PM)
If you feel when you acted rashly you did a wrong thing, perhaps you should consider an apology to Mark or to this kin. But that is clearly a personal decision.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:48:20 PM)
" it is a moot matter i fear and well i see no reason to aplogize to the this kin when i can not even speak wth her. but this is something i'd wish to aviod in the future and you know mre of... other tribes then i do and you also understand how one of my tribe thinks and feels more then many others would, that is why i ask for you to tell me about the other tribes and there views. if i am to live here the rest of my days, i need to understand more"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:49:03 PM)
I can try. But....my views are through the eyes of an Uktena.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:50:28 PM)
" yes i know this but you are still an Elder of Elder brother's tribe, you are stll the chasers of wisdom and that is what i seek"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:53:46 PM)
The Fenrir are a proud tribe. They value strength and war.....and usually little else. There are exceptions of course in any tribe...but...Fenrir live for battle. Among them, the strong, lead. Others follow. I have noticed they prefer strength and self sufficiency in there kinfolk. Some among them even adovocated kinfolk learning combat. I often find them ....impulsive, to quick to leap at Glory. But they are good warriors.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:55:03 PM)
*she listened, quietly to the elder clearly repectful*

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:56:16 PM)
((what tribes are in your pack....))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:56:38 PM)
(( child of gaia and fenir for now))

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 9:56:41 PM)
((I'll have her cover those and leave off the rest for downtime...you can get most of this from the core book under the basic tribal blurbs))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 9:57:09 PM)
((yup yup but you know it helps talking to the elders))

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:00:27 PM)
Child of Gaia are the opposite of Fenrir almost. They desire above all peace and understanding between the tribes. They are a tribe of healers, of diplomats, of idealists. On the whole they have treated the Pure Ones with the most understanding....though I find them sometimes too idealistic and niave.

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:02:11 PM)
They follow Unicorn....a totem of peace and healing. Though I hear it has it's war aspects for dealing with the Wyrm.

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:05:05 PM)
We can speak of tribes for a long time. Do you know the Contrition rite Eyes like the Sky?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:05:20 PM)
" yes honoured elder"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:07:56 PM)
What rites do you know?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:09:26 PM)
"rite of summoning, rite of wounding, rite of binding, rite of talisman dedication, Rite of Cleansing, Rite of Questing Stone. Renewing the Talen, Song of the longest night, Sineater and contrition"

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:11:13 PM)
I think perhaps I shall teach you Rite of Spirit Awakening. It is rather useful. How good is your overall spirit knowledge?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:12:01 PM)
" not as good as it should be honoured elder"((her occult is 1 ))

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:13:06 PM)
((No cosmology?))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:13:14 PM)
((no))

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:13:34 PM)
What is the difference between a Gaffling and a Jaggling?

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:15:17 PM)
" rank and streanght i believe honoured elder , with the jaggling being stronger"*was clearly unsure of her anwser*

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:17:12 PM)
Humm you aren't a total loss. But you definately need guidence. We'll do lunch once a week. I'll set you straight on the basics about spirits. In return for this I expect you to help Tharon tend the herbal garden...and get me the herbs he sets aside to me to be delivered to the Voodoo Crawfish resteraunt. Do you understand?

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:19:09 PM)
((hey no teaching is free))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:19:13 PM)
" of course honoured elder himla-rhya"*it was clear she expected to do something in return and even found this chore not as bad as she could have asked of eyes*

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:19:26 PM)
((eyes was expecting to pay))

Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:19:35 PM)
Good....see you soon. I must go for now.

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:19:48 PM)
" thank you for your time"

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:20:48 PM)
(( and i am going to go now since i'm like not feeling good, thank you for ding this))

Eyes Like the Sky (Dec 13, 2010 10:22:03 PM)
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Hilma Ostara (Dec 13, 2010 10:24:04 PM)
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