Gavrilo Princip (Mar 25, 2011 1:44:04 AM)
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Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 1:44:17 AM)
BRB gonna relog blues.
Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 1:44:21 AM)
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Gavrilo Princip (Mar 25, 2011 1:50:07 AM)
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Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 1:50:14 AM)
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Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 1:50:34 AM)
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Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 1:51:11 AM)
Be hilarious if the Admins forgot
Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 1:51:40 AM)
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Gavrilo Princip (Mar 25, 2011 1:51:52 AM)
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Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 1:51:54 AM)
*Puts the dot at the end of her name incase she ghosts again!*
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 1:52:44 AM)
At least you have people here who can kick you right away. =)
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 1:52:52 AM)
True enough.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 1:53:11 AM)
and its always ME that ghosts. Not Ian. Conspiracy!
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 1:53:51 AM)
Totally!
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 1:53:58 AM)
OK brb need to put the little man in bed.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 1:59:33 AM)
Any signs of the others?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:00:13 AM)
Not that I can see and I checked my fpms
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:00:23 AM)
Ive recived no warning of a change in schedual
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 2:00:25 AM)
Ok so how much time do we wanna give them? 15?
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 2:00:29 AM)
me either.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:00:38 AM)
I always give them 30 minutes just like I give my players
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 2:00:44 AM)
And its like 2am for you yes?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:01:05 AM)
Yes it is 2 am
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:03:37 AM)
.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 2:03:41 AM)
*listens to her son play with his guitar instead of sleeping!*
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:04:21 AM)
Is he good?
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:04:23 AM)
>.>
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 2:04:31 AM)
Jenn you would thoroughly enjoy how much he runs me ragged.
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:05:36 AM)
Probably!
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:05:39 AM)
^_^
Deem. (Mar 25, 2011 2:06:18 AM)
Sorry. I'm having a hard time paying attention. Just found out about a site called djtorrents.com, and it has like, literally every artist I listened to in the late 90's and shit I've never been able to find.
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:06:29 AM)
.......
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:06:31 AM)
Geek.
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:06:34 AM)
>.>
Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 2:07:26 AM)
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Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 2:07:47 AM)
REALLY!?! *beats up connection!*
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:07:49 AM)
Okay, that was odd.
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Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 2:08:00 AM)
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Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:08:11 AM)
Welcome back?
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:08:12 AM)
>.<
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:08:18 AM)
I blame Zull.
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:09:25 AM)
Are you the keymaster? >.>
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:09:47 AM)
"Ray! If someone asks you if you're a God, you say yes!"
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:09:48 AM)
Maaaaaaaybe... >.>
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:10:15 AM)
*laughs* I have to agree with thats statement.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:10:42 AM)
And then wait for the opportunity to escape and run like hell!
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:11:08 AM)
*laughs*
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:11:53 AM)
What was the dudes name we found a bra in his bag?
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:11:56 AM)
Was it Joey?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:09 AM)
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auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:32 AM)
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Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:39 AM)
AHA!
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:43 AM)
There he is.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:48 AM)
We're missing one.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:49 AM)
Just got home, yes/what?
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:12:57 AM)
Meeting tonight remember?
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:13:31 AM)
yeeup
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:14:20 AM)
Did anyone hear from Ghostlin?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:15:14 AM)
he is on
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:15:23 AM)
he spoke in the voices are back
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:15:31 AM)
Ok is he coming?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:15:51 AM)
I could only assume he is coming.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:16:57 AM)
Not going to bother with my spelling, its 2 am I appologise for those incapable of properly reading typo.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:17:05 AM)
OK cool. We can wait.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:18:10 AM)
That or we can do it now, I will ask Ame and Deem to split so that no one feels outnumbered or whatever. So its Fair.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:18:39 AM)
Is that satisfactory?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:18:53 AM)
Fine with me if Auggy's good.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:19:23 AM)
More concerned about what gabby thinks.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:19:49 AM)
I can run with that if it's cool all around.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:19:59 AM)
Gabby?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:20:38 AM)
I am here, you are the admins, I am just waiting for this to begin.
Deem. (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:00 AM)
That rhymed.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:07 AM)
Ghostlin comes he comes, I did not send out the invitations to delerious auggy dastai and ghostlin
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:17 AM)
Ame, Deem, I'll yap at you both later then.
Deem. (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:33 AM)
Alright. Off to do more Photoshop slave work.
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:33 AM)
'kay.
Ame (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:37 AM)
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Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:41 AM)
Sorry for taking your guys time
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:21:48 AM)
I did not invite anyone in fact no ones even told me what this is about, so lets be honoest here I do not see what it matters.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:22:33 AM)
This is about one of three possible resolutions to all this madness.. But that's more or less skipping to the end. >_<
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:22:51 AM)
Yeah its 2am for her so short is best.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:23:29 AM)
Auggy, no multi tasking!
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:24:01 AM)
Too late. *starts eating*
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:24:15 AM)
Breakfast here too, you don't want to see me without fuel.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:24:36 AM)
First off, Del I owe you an apology.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:24:50 AM)
I, for my part, am sorry that one of the issues raised was misplaced blame, the rest weren't. Also, that sorry that you and I didn't communicate well when I was trying to get you to bring your concerns to me rather than the fraying Siggy. I'm sure, in the wake of Siggy's brief resignation, you can easily guess why I was adamant about it at the time. The objections stand on Menthril's hire. According to the new hiring policy, you may choose to overrule and hire Menthril on as a Narrator for 3 months, if he still wants the job.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:26:46 AM)
Thanks Dastai and I appreciate your apology. I apolgize also for being abrupt with you when we spoke. I wasn't aware of the situation with Siggy so it wasn't clear to me why what was said, was said. I was also very miffed at the threat you posted on the boards, even though I realize that you most likely didnt mean it that way.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:27:12 AM)
*nods*
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:27:22 AM)
Gabby, I encouraged you to post, and Ghostlin encouraged you to post. To fulfil the purpose of the application forum, to have all parties heard from.
I'm sorry you feel you were targeted. On the other hand, I don't appreciate being blamed for doing my job any more than you appreciated being blamed for doing yours. To be completely honest here, the tone of your post regarding Menthril -was- a little antagonistic. But that's not technically against any rule on the chat. So, Good on ya.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:27:56 AM)
Auggy and I spoke and though I am not apologizing for what I said, because I believe in what I said as does Ame, I did agree/admit that the tone was aggressive. That said, That is me. I am the way I am when I adamantly believe in something.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:28:26 AM)
I know you were frustrated by the entire mess, I should have worked with you on the post or something given that we both knew to some extent we'd be throwing gasoline on a fire.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:29:34 AM)
We were extremely upset that no one bothered to apologize to Menthril, at least on the App thread, even after he was proved innocent of the whole Soapbox issue. Hell, even Siggy, after we spoke, admitted to me she treated him poorly because she was under the impression he was browncoat/turncoat whatever the name is/was.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:30:47 AM)
That was to Gabby, Del.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:31:06 AM)
My post was to the general room.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:31:22 AM)
room in general*
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:31:40 AM)
And Del, Menthril should have never seen or heard of what was on that thread. I will apologize to -him- if for some reason he -has- that information. But I'd love to know why he does.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:31:54 AM)
Well it wasnt me who told him so...
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:32:14 AM)
And to my knowledge, it wasnt any of my team. Ive asked.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:32:45 AM)
Let me know when you would like to hear my responces, because every meeting i have been in thus far has always been organized by one at a time. With some rules of ettiqute expected in that meeting. But those have been wta.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:33:12 AM)
And I guarantee Gabby didn't strike up a conversation with the guy. *snort* Same with everyone else on WtA. Gabby, please, you're welcome to respond to what's in here.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:33:12 AM)
Ive said what I have to say.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:33:50 AM)
Well be that as it may, every ST on here has access, not just VtM or WtA.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:34:46 AM)
I'm just being quiet mainly because I'm devouring food. I'm sure someone can talk to Menthril if need be.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:35:01 AM)
I have already apologized to him.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 2:35:27 AM)
Thank you.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:37:25 AM)
1. We have never had a problem with people sending screen shots to applicants in the entire time I have been on staff.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:38:06 AM)
And I'll do so as well. I wasn't aware someone had been informing him of what happened.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:38:22 AM)
And god help whoever did it when I find out.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:40:38 AM)
2. Geoff is the player of bastain whom was the issue on soap box, yes browncoat was a vocal troll I am sure. But I got no clue who the hell brown coat is. I simply know proof of the charges levied against him which had proof behind them. He was a sheet watcher he was asking me for things in which I had to discuss with the entirty of the team before I could even give him a yay or nay, but I did send it to the team and told him i would get back to him when we disscussed it. 2 days was to long a wait for him.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:40:53 AM)
Fine be that as it may i still could not give it to him.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:41:03 AM)
Him and bastain the geoff soap boxer
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:41:30 AM)
They where the ones in the ooc complianing i was making the challenge to easy?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:41:35 AM)
For scratchy?
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 2:41:50 AM)
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Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 2:41:57 AM)
fucking computer.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 2:41:58 AM)
sorry.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:42:02 AM)
Heya
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:42:10 AM)
Well they did not tell me this, that went to the admins whom then informed they wanted to check the logs and asked for the date and time and i told them it was in the screen tracker thread
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:42:20 AM)
That complaint was not even lodged by me
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:42:44 AM)
But I was made to be the person whom was not communicating?
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:43:26 AM)
I send fpms and run scenes do the xp and renown and i do as much as i can and i do it as fast as i can to keep up with things but your alligations saying "i would not have put up with it"
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:43:54 AM)
or that because a month has less weeks i should just do double the work that month?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:44:32 AM)
Gabby, I think most of these are issues you had with Menthril. Not those gathered here.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:44:34 AM)
He made complaints that things where no being done fast enough, he looked at other peoples sheets and pointed at them when asked not to
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:45:26 AM)
Right but this is what delrious said on the forums about my character she attacked my character as if my issues where some sort of attack on her "friend"
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:46:07 AM)
Where she says in other posts that "hey i think people who are friends with players should not comment on them"
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:46:12 AM)
Ah okay. Then I'll take the floor. As the arguments that started going back and forth there are never going to see resolution.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:46:56 AM)
Well how is this? My man put in a application here on this chat, and i did not submitt it, and i refused to even respond to the application in favor or against him.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 2:47:11 AM)
Gabs, let Dastai talk.
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 2:47:20 AM)
Sorry
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:47:24 AM)
I was the one putting the application up for My venue. Course Im going to reply.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 2:47:50 AM)
I understand you're upset. I'm upset. The point is Dastai wants the floor.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:48:15 AM)
Okay look. Del, Gabby, I get that the two of you have butted heads on occasion and that neither of you is happy with how the fallout came out. That brings me to the 3 options we have in front of us.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:48:51 AM)
Hey, Im not here to argue. I came to apologise for my abruptness to you and for being aggressive in my posts. That was all.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:48:59 AM)
Which Ive done.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:49:13 AM)
And I'd like you to stay just a bit longer, Del. Please.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:49:22 AM)
yeah no worries. Im not leaving.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:50:00 AM)
Here are the issues:
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:50:39 AM)
Del, The specific forum you chose to bring up your disagreements is meant to be used as an open forum for Everyone to weigh in on a potential new hire. Your opinion had been given, and no call for a rebuttal of Gabby/Hades/Ghostlin's comments was required or appropriate.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:50:57 AM)
Sure it was.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:51:01 AM)
You could have come to the Admins and talked about the hiring system at any time before or even During that fiasco, instead of taking it out on those who posted there in an utterly unprofessional manner unfit for an HST. I know it's unfair, but there are higher standards for HSTs than for STs or narrators.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:51:11 AM)
Wasnt a problem for the admins.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:51:18 AM)
Hiring policy? Yes it was.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:51:20 AM)
It was a problem with an application for my venue.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:51:35 AM)
Which was just as easily addressed with the application.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:52:13 AM)
And I was taking nothing out on anyone.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:52:32 AM)
I was bringing up what I knew of the situations which were presented against Menthril.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:52:48 AM)
As OTHERS have done on OTHER applications
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:53:08 AM)
I am not the first to debate someones application.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:53:32 AM)
Debate isn't what happened. Del, what you said was inappropriate. I'm sorry you disagree, but making that call is where the Admins come in, and we've all agreed on it.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:53:37 AM)
(Capitals for highlighting, not tone)
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:54:01 AM)
Really? Interesting since I was told differently.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:54:11 AM)
But whatever. Take it as you will.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:55:07 AM)
I didnt come here for fingers to be pointed. Not at Me. Not at Gabby. Not at Ghostlin.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:55:23 AM)
Though there is definitely reason for all of us to have them pointed in our direction.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:56:06 AM)
And I've already spoken with Ghostlin at some length. I would have spoken with you just as privately, but you haven't replied to me on Skype.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:56:33 AM)
what i came for was to apologise to you for my abruptness, which I did, and to apologize for what people took as Aggressive, when in fact that isnt remotely aggressive to me but hey, thats my thoughts on it. Im not on skype often. I hate skype. I log on, check in, check out.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:57:10 AM)
And I agree that we've all got a part in this. And thank you for the apology. But I'm not the only one who needs it.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:57:25 AM)
Im not apologizing for what I said.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:57:32 AM)
I already told Auggy this and he was fine with that.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 2:58:04 AM)
I acutally do have one tiny problem, and I'll just come out and say it.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:58:10 AM)
Auggy was wrong to say that. You and Gabby have a lot in common, ironically. You are both very strong women who are very active on the chat as STs and we need you.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 2:58:14 AM)
Im Not apologizing for something I believe to be right and/or true.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 2:58:16 AM)
Sure Ghost.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:03:00 AM)
Frankly...I'm offended at one thing of the whole mess. I don't come up in Vampire's business about warnings they issue and say the staff was 'wrong'. I generally don't question the lack of judgement in their staff when they issue warnings or venue bans to players because it's not my place to speak to that. Whatever VtM issues is their business. I disliked the dismissive tone of the fact that we issued the warning on a mistake, when quite frankly, the Vampire team didn't have the issue, SB, GG and Hades did. I'd appreciate it if you really feel there's a misunderstanding, fine, but don't play it off like we have bad judgement on folks. Particularly when all I want to do by going "we've had a problem with this player" is "Hey. Somewhere down the line this may be a problem. We'd like you to be aware."
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:03:48 AM)
The tone takes a backseat or exerbrates the problem, but it's not the problem.
Delirious.. (Mar 25, 2011 3:04:03 AM)
OK Auggy, -I- didnt ask -you- for this meeting (yes, I asked for this meeting) for this witchhunt.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:04:17 AM)
NO one's on a witchhunt.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:04:45 AM)
Del: if no one wanted my opinion, then why am I here?
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:05:13 AM)
If you didn't want to know what our problem was, why did you call the meeting?
Delirious (Mar 25, 2011 3:05:37 AM)
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Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:05:42 AM)
Wb
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Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:05:56 AM)
I came to do two things.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:06:03 AM)
Not to discuss this or that.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:06:04 AM)
You aren't the only one who came.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:06:12 AM)
Not to banter back and forth whos right or wrong.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:06:24 AM)
I'm not here to banter with it either Del.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:06:45 AM)
If we wanna start bringing up shit then trust me, I could do that two but its a waste of time.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:06:54 AM)
I'm telling you my perception of what the problem was.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:07:28 AM)
But you think its ok to call us.. I think it was "Bitchy little 3yr old kindergarteners"
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 3:07:31 AM)
Okay you have sparked my curiosity
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 3:07:46 AM)
What are the two things?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:07:49 AM)
OKAY STOP!
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:07 AM)
You had Ragequit at that point and I was pissed. I'm sorry for the tone, but fact is, I had thought you had left, quite bluntly.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:17 AM)
Um it wasnt a rage quit.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:24 AM)
I even state that in the post
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:31 AM)
It was us being disappointed in the system.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:34 AM)
Gabby Ghostlin,thank you for your time. Please, head out.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:36 AM)
DISAPPOINTED.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:39 AM)
To my perspective, it was. The entire venue packed its bags.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:48 AM)
People.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:51 AM)
Guess you didnt wanna read the full post then
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:52 AM)
You didn't even bother to negotate with the admins or anyone else.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:54 AM)
GUYS!
Gabby Girl (Mar 25, 2011 3:08:59 AM)
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Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:05 AM)
Why when its all clear as day right there?
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:07 AM)
All y'all.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:09 AM)
DEL.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:11 AM)
SHUT.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:12 AM)
Ghost, please?
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:14 AM)
IT.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:44 AM)
You know what, you led me here under false pretense, which i clearly do not appreciate. Dont tell me to shut it when Im not the only one. Thank you.
Ghostlin (Mar 25, 2011 3:09:55 AM)
Goodnight, Del.
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Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:10:47 AM)
There is nothing more to say. Ive said what I had to say, what i came here for. But then you let other shit get brought up to stoke the fires and you think Im going to shit back and let myself be attacked? Sorry no.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:11:34 AM)
I put a stop to it when Gabby started attacking, Del,that is not what I wanted or intended.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:11:43 AM)
Clearly this was turned into a witch hunt.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:11:51 AM)
Not anymore.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:11:59 AM)
I'm not hunting anything.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:12:28 AM)
We have two options at this point,since obviously option A: "We get over it and remember we're all one team" ain't happening.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:12:29 AM)
I get SITE WARNED for being aggressive on the boards yet NOTHING happens to them?
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:13:19 AM)
I came here in a good mood, happy to see we were communicating, shit hits the fan and IM the one being spoken to?
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:13:30 AM)
I asked for this meeting. Me.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:13:31 AM)
Ghostlin didn't make his comment on the forums, and as I said I already addressed it with him. And he even apologized to you for the tone in this window.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:13:46 AM)
Del.. you're being spoken to. They were asked to LEAVE.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:14:22 AM)
I didnt see an apology for him calling us what he did. I didnt see me or my staff calling people names. I mean really, stop a moment and look at this from my perspective.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:14:28 AM)
What would you think this all looks like?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:14:49 AM)
It looks like a shit ton of people are frustrated. I'm not against you goddamnit.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:14:50 AM)
I was over it, Dastai.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:15:07 AM)
I was very much over it which is why -I- asked for this meeting.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:15:27 AM)
I did. This wasnt Auggys idea.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:15:37 AM)
I believe you, Del.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:15:58 AM)
He didn't even want to be here. lol I -know- it wasn't his plan.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:16:08 AM)
And pardon my bluntness. Im not raging. Im being very blunt.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:16:18 AM)
Then I will return the favor.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:16:35 AM)
which is cool cause I prefer it.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:17:08 AM)
Clearly "Getting along" is impossible. You and Gabby are valuable to the site. You're active creative STs, with a lot of player support.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:17:21 AM)
So that leaves options B and C.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:17:54 AM)
B. We build the goddamned BERLIN WALL between VtM and WtA, and I stand on the top with a gun to keep further conflict from happening.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:18:36 AM)
Look Im all for working as a team. My problem was the constant vetto from other teams, namely WtA because of their numbers. What i brought up I brought up because I knew Menthril had been treated unfairly due to them thinking, at that time, he was someone on soapbox. Of course Im going to stick up for him or anyone for that matter whos not gotten a fair shake.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:19:16 AM)
He was merely the catolyst ya know? Its not really about -him-.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:19:22 AM)
catalyst*
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:19:45 AM)
B requires the apology you gave for your forum posts be made public for the staff, as I tried to explain before it went to hell. And Del, he spent most of that time bitching to ME all through it. My PC was the one up for the position we had pulled out of our hands. I KNOW what his issues were and most of what he told the team. The soapbox stuff was ONE issue, not the Crux of the problem with Menthril.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:20:08 AM)
Drop the soapbox thing. Please. It's not the problem.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:20:35 AM)
Well why then was it said it was a "HUGE PROBLEM"?
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:20:58 AM)
Which is why I addressed it.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:20:58 AM)
Because it is,it's just not the problem wtih Menthril.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:21:05 AM)
We're all clear on that.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:21:25 AM)
I am not apologizing for something I believe in.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:21:26 AM)
It's been Addressed, now it needs to be put aside.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:21:32 AM)
And Ive already told Auggy that.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:21:50 AM)
You apologized in here,and in fact came here to apologize for the aggressive tone of your posts.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:21:55 AM)
And my apology was to them.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:03 AM)
Yep.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:06 AM)
It needs to be to Everyone.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:12 AM)
Staff, anyway.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:16 AM)
I dont think so.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:27 AM)
You keep asking me to get in your shoes.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:29 AM)
Get in mine.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:22:45 AM)
Actually I asked you once.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:19 AM)
And I do understand where youre coming from but no one else had a problem save Ghostlin and Gabby or theyd have been here as well.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:21 AM)
Someone gets upset on the forums, posts aggressively, dismisses an entire team based on the idea that they're just wrong. Then quits. Comes back as if nothing happened.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:29 AM)
Um..no
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:32 AM)
No Del. We didn't invite anyone else.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:37 AM)
I didnt dismiss the entire team.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:51 AM)
I dismissed the posts made by Two people.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:23:53 AM)
You said that WtA issues with Menthril shouldn't stop him from being a VtM ST.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:21 AM)
What does WtA and VtM have to do with one another?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:26 AM)
SI.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:27 AM)
Nothing.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:33 AM)
SI. We are all one team.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:35 AM)
Of were.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:37 AM)
We dont allow crossover.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:38 AM)
Or were.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:46 AM)
We havent been for a long time.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:48 AM)
Anyway, the soapbox thing is already cleared up.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:49 AM)
Just FYI.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:24:58 AM)
And wasn't the only issue with Menthril.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:25:03 AM)
Oh I know that.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:25:25 AM)
So there are still issues, viable problems between WtA and Menthril. And I'm leaving it at that.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:25:47 AM)
But as I mentioned, I know him. He is very persistant but yes, he was not the only person handling his shit poorly.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:25:49 AM)
We need an Apology to the staff, on whatever it is you think you can manage.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:00 AM)
It's a gesture.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:01 AM)
No I will not.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:16 AM)
Del.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:28 AM)
I pushed through the rewrite on the hiring policy.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:31 AM)
I managed to apologise already to the two people most involved.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:37 AM)
That was what i said I would do.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:53 AM)
Hey, I spoke to Auggy several days ago before this.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:26:54 AM)
I defended you to the Admin chat.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:01 AM)
I never asked you too.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:02 AM)
And I have the log from your conversation with Auggy.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:11 AM)
I did my part.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:14 AM)
No.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:19 AM)
Sorry you feel that way.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:39 AM)
Its not going to change the fact Im not apologizing to the entire staff for which most of those Ive spoken to agree.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:49 AM)
Not that that matters, just sayin.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:50 AM)
Auggy was wrong to agree with you.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:56 AM)
Well thats on him then
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:27:58 AM)
Not me.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:12 AM)
I already yelled at him.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:14 AM)
Thats between you two.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:32 AM)
Then don't bring himup.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:38 AM)
......
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:42 AM)
*chuckles*
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:52 AM)
do you expect me to say "Blank blank"
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:28:59 AM)
When im trying to make a point?
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:07 AM)
Look this is ridiculous.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:11 AM)
Agreed.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:19 AM)
You can fire me. Whatever.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:25 AM)
Im not apologizing to the staff.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:28 AM)
Period.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:34 AM)
I came and did what I said I was going to do.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:29:38 AM)
One sec.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:30:13 AM)
I know, yes, my opinion did and does diverge, and I do apologize for being stupid and not being more specific.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:30:17 AM)
I love Sting. I love my players but Im not about to be pushed around.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:30:43 AM)
Well then yeah, it was a shame. This meeting would not have happened.
auggy (Mar 25, 2011 3:31:31 AM)
Okay. Proceeding from that point. My screwup, my bad, take what you will from it.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:31:38 AM)
I came to do what I said I would. I did that. I didnt come with the knowledge of being asked for anything else, especially when Ive already stated several times I disagree.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:32:06 AM)
I lived up to my end.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:33:27 AM)
I am willing to keep VtM and WtA entirely seperate. I am willing to build the wall and keep each out of the other's business entirely. I'm even willing to let Menthril on the team (for which we may well lose other STs) I am going as far as I humanly can to make this work for you Del.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:02 AM)
I even apologized for everything I could possibly think of at the beginning of this conversation, and will repeat those apologies anywhere you like to see them, because I know I had a hand in it.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:14 AM)
Im not asking you to hire Menthril. As a matter of fact, I figured that was a moot point, regardless of the fact Hayley already told me she would.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:16 AM)
You are being asked to do ONE thing.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:24 AM)
That's it.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:38 AM)
Dastai, Im not doing something I disagree with.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:42 AM)
Nor should you.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:34:58 AM)
I idnt ask you for any of these things so please dont throw them in my face.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:07 AM)
Yes you did.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:11 AM)
No I didnt.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:28 AM)
Look, Im not going to continue to repeat myself.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:30 AM)
You said on Menthril's app exactly what you thought should happen, and why.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:33 AM)
Do what youre going to do.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:42 AM)
And I did my damnedest to fix it for everyone.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:35:53 AM)
That made no sense to me what you just said.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:36:11 AM)
I dont recall asking you for anything except not to waste your time warning me.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:36:38 AM)
And just so you recall, my staff wrote that resignation together.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:36:39 AM)
I told you. I'm the complaint department.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:01 AM)
You complained.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:09 AM)
I tried to fix it.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:18 AM)
I didnt ask you to fix anything.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:24 AM)
It's my job.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:31 AM)
You took it upon yourself because youre the complaint department.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:47 AM)
If I wanted you to do anything, I would have got a hold of you specifically.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:37:48 AM)
*nods* Because I said I would do it. To keep Auggy and Siggy and Hades and Allegory Sane.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:00 AM)
Ok so are we done here?
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:02 AM)
You clearly don't like me these days.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:08 AM)
I dont mind you at all.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:16 AM)
I just disagree with what youre asking.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:16 AM)
You wouldn't even talk to me on Skype or Forums when I asked you to come to me.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:21 AM)
You went to Auggy and Siggy instead.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:30 AM)
Because of the way in which our conversation went AND your threat.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:45 AM)
actually no
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:46 AM)
I'll reiterate,I have nothing against you either.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:49 AM)
Auggy came to me.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:52 AM)
Siggy came to me.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:38:55 AM)
But I'm sorry it came to this.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:39:11 AM)
I am too.
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:39:12 AM)
I accept your resignation.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:39:17 AM)
Alrighty.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:39:22 AM)
Take care :)
Dastai (Mar 25, 2011 3:39:27 AM)
Bye.
Delirious. (Mar 25, 2011 3:39:28 AM)
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